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Izo Alabaster
Viziam
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.05.25 15:11:00 -
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Hi CCP. The new missile effects are awesome, as I'm sure you're aware. I've been raving about them, people in game have been raving, etc. You guys pretty much knocked that one out of the park.
The new inventory system is taking some getting used to. I'm sure I'll like it in time.
I'm not sure if it was necessary to give the active shield tank boats a module that allows them to super-active-shield tank, the ancillary shield booster. Most shield tank ships could already put up superior tanks compared to armor tanking boats. Are you wanting Caldari to be the super tank-race that requires a small blob to take them down, and utterly cement them as the preferred mission running race? If that happens, the already numerous Caldari would really take over EVE. If that's your aim, then I for one welcome our new Caldari overlords.  |
Lucian Hordez
Viziam
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.05.25 15:12:00 -
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Don't know if this has been mentioned but I have been having troubles accessing dropped loot? As soon as I open a wreck's cargo I drop from the server? Really annoying since I am on a mission that requires me to pick up a certain cargo from a destroyed ship.
Will be upsetting if I fail the mission because of this. As rep is hard to gain and easy to loose.
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CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
2360
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Posted - 2012.05.25 15:13:00 -
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Salpun wrote:CC Punkturis the War Reports really need somthing that shows that the double click started the build function. Building a RvB War report Lags in its build up for like 2 min when you build it the first time.
Yes! I have plans to fix that so it tells you it's loading up and then the data is displayed, thanks!
CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Programmer | @CCP_Punkturis |
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Aspectt
Degrees of Freedom
The Babylon Consortium
0
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Posted - 2012.05.25 15:21:00 -
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I'm not going to comment on the usability of the new UI.
But the LAG sucks. Just for that alone it should not have been moved into production.
Didn't you guys test dragging 100+ items from a Noctis into the Item hanger? Like it was complex test?
I go from 60 frames a second down to 2. And I've got really good hardware. It takes a couple of minutes to recover sometimes.
What kind of play experience is that?
And looting a mission same deal with lag.... a Nightmare.
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Skelf Scunner
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.05.25 15:28:00 -
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35 seconds to open inventory =
Industry alt being mothballed =
-1 account |
Mangone
Domination.
En Garde
3
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Posted - 2012.05.25 15:33:00 -
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Weimarski wrote:inventory in space = horror
nothing more to say, sry
I was already complaining before i went in pos to pick up stuff from my can... I was like wth and took me couple minutes to get over that shock! |
Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
Numquam Ambulare Solus
0
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Posted - 2012.05.25 15:45:00 -
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Give me back my seperate cargoholds, drone hold/etc, I like being able to see what I've got in both or all 3 at the same time, or at least give me the option to open multiple item windows, and then split them up, and give me back the option to have all my ships listed in one window, I have about 30 ships in one station - and I'm not looking forward to trying to find stuff in that one (doesn't help that it's my dumping ground)
Dammit - it wasn't broke, why'd you go try and fix it that radically? |
Jalabaster
Mechanical Eagles Inc.
The Ancients.
4
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Posted - 2012.05.25 15:47:00 -
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Isabienij wrote:The new inventory system was clearly not designed for players living out of a POS.
Browsing through 50+ pos mods just to find the hangar you're looking for is not what i want to spend
brainpower or gametime on.
Usability in that regard is hugely reduced.
One suggestions; allow drag drop of favorite often used hangars or hangar types into a sort of "favorite" area
QFT
"when a ship is blown up, the pilot usually winds up replacing it. This drives the economy, steadies inflation, and gives industrialists a reason to manufacture. In contrast, creating isk while never losing any items has the unfortunate reverse effect on the market, plus it isn't really any fun." Jala |
ISquishWorms
115
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Posted - 2012.05.25 15:57:00 -
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Inferno can go burn in a fire. One of the worst releases ever.
That is all. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
779
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:45:00 -
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I'm getting used to the new inventory changes. It's fine. One thing that I would like to see is an improvement in the way it hooks up to your personal inventory when you are in space and looting a ship. Is there a way to set it by default to open A NEW inventory window when you open a wreck or can? I don't always want to loot all, most of the time I want to pick a few items via ctrl+click and drag them into my cargo window. This needs to be done quickly a lot of the time, and the new inventory system turns looting a wreck into a frickin' clickfest for a function which for me, requires minimal time over target. It's possible to open secondary windows using shift click... I just want that to be the default action.
Please?
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Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
24
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:45:00 -
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Wheres that picture of soundwave burning in an inferno [from when incarna was released] when we need it?  |
Marisol Shimaya
Artic Circle
The I.D.E.A.
44
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:54:00 -
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CCP after your reboot the server and my inventory still crash my client
FREEDOM and OUR RIGHTS |
TheSmokingHertog
Black Hole INC
44
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:57:00 -
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Tomytronic wrote:People hate change.
People will adapt.
You love the font now, don't you?
Euhm, no? |
Jalabaster
Mechanical Eagles Inc.
The Ancients.
5
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:00:00 -
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Ok, so the new UI is a bit cumbersome. I live in a wormhole, at a POS, so most of my feedback is concerning using the new UI in a starbase environment. Although I have docked a couple times and there are also some streamlining issues there as well.
1. Every time I open a corporate hangar array, it defaults me into the Directors (top tier) bin. Unfortunately I live out of a different bin, and don't have access to the directors bin. Please have hangar arrays, labs, etc remember your bin preference. [Don't get rid of the inaccessable bins, simply have the UI remember which bin you were last in the way it used to.]
2. Condense POS gun cargo into a starbase weapons category. Too much going on in the new UI when you're parked at a starbase.
3. Would be nice to have some of the simpler "one time" use cargo containers (like wrecks, radar and mag cans, etc) open by default the old way. No need to open up my entire unified inventory just to loot two ancient coordinates. I've been using the shift click to open stuff like this, but i'm often having to hold shift and click multiple times. Is this intended?
4. Now that we've got a mostly functioning unified inventory, please allow us to rename corporate hangar arrays to reflect this new organization of inventory. My POS has 8+ hangar arrays. I have no way of telling them apart from looking at the UI.
5. UI should remember item hangar and ship hangar window locations, and automatically pop them up when you dock in a station (the way it used to function)
6. Yeah, active ship not showing up in ship inventory window. ...I've undocked in the wrong ship multiple times in my 45 minute visit to hisec.
"when a ship is blown up, the pilot usually winds up replacing it. This drives the economy, steadies inflation, and gives industrialists a reason to manufacture. In contrast, creating isk while never losing any items has the unfortunate reverse effect on the market, plus it isn't really any fun." Jala |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
2362
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:11:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:Salpun wrote:CC Punkturis the War Reports really need somthing that shows that the double click started the build function. Building a RvB War report Lags in its build up for like 2 min when you build it the first time. Yes! I have plans to fix that so it tells you it's loading up and then the data is displayed, thanks!
This should be fixed now, also for kill reports! 
I'll have to check it out better when it hits TQ on Tuesday because my computer wasn't having a too hard of a time opening some of the wars on Sisi, unfortunately.
CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Programmer | @CCP_Punkturis |
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Spanking Monkeys
ZC Industries
Dark Stripes
41
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:29:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:Salpun wrote:CC Punkturis the War Reports really need somthing that shows that the double click started the build function. Building a RvB War report Lags in its build up for like 2 min when you build it the first time. Yes! I have plans to fix that so it tells you it's loading up and then the data is displayed, thanks! This should be fixed now, also for kill reports! I'll have to check it out better when it hits TQ on Tuesday because my computer wasn't having a too hard of a time opening some of the wars on Sisi, unfortunately.
why are kill mails showing people that shot said victim many session's prior.. prior to thsi chnage, i shot you in system X, you jumpped to system Y, and died in system Y. only people that shot you in system Y got on the kill. |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
2362
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:30:00 -
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Spanking Monkeys wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:Salpun wrote:CC Punkturis the War Reports really need somthing that shows that the double click started the build function. Building a RvB War report Lags in its build up for like 2 min when you build it the first time. Yes! I have plans to fix that so it tells you it's loading up and then the data is displayed, thanks! This should be fixed now, also for kill reports! I'll have to check it out better when it hits TQ on Tuesday because my computer wasn't having a too hard of a time opening some of the wars on Sisi, unfortunately. why are kill mails showing people that shot said victim many session's prior.. prior to thsi chnage, i shot you in system X, you jumpped to system Y, and died in system Y. only people that shot you in system Y got on the kill.
I'm not sure what you're talking about but we did not change how kill reports worked, we just gave them a face lift 
We are aware that some of the data is borked and has always been, but it should not have introduced new errors in kills/losses.
CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Programmer | @CCP_Punkturis |
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Spanking Monkeys
ZC Industries
Dark Stripes
41
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:36:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:Spanking Monkeys wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:Salpun wrote:CC Punkturis the War Reports really need somthing that shows that the double click started the build function. Building a RvB War report Lags in its build up for like 2 min when you build it the first time. Yes! I have plans to fix that so it tells you it's loading up and then the data is displayed, thanks! This should be fixed now, also for kill reports! I'll have to check it out better when it hits TQ on Tuesday because my computer wasn't having a too hard of a time opening some of the wars on Sisi, unfortunately. why are kill mails showing people that shot said victim many session's prior.. prior to thsi chnage, i shot you in system X, you jumpped to system Y, and died in system Y. only people that shot you in system Y got on the kill. I'm not sure what you're talking about but we did not change how kill reports worked, we just gave them a face lift We are aware that some of the data is borked and has always been, but it should not have introduced new errors in kills/losses.
ship gets shot in ccp-us. it jumsp to next system. it gets shot by compleatly different gang. both gangs get on the kill mails. regardless of teh session change..
prior to this expansion, teh session change reset who got on taht mail.
seen a few mails with my gang on it, but we shot it 30mins before and many systems from where it eventually died |
Selissa Shadoe
84
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Posted - 2012.05.25 18:03:00 -
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EVE Infernal: Set the unified inventory on fire! |
Capsuleer Newton
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
21
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Posted - 2012.05.25 18:44:00 -
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Meytal wrote:Since it sounds like that few people (if any) raged about how hard the previous inventory management system worked, there wasn't a lot of pressure to fix what wasn't broken. So, there wasn't a "need" here.
By now, CCP has to know that when they make a change, a lot of people will rage just so they can rage at CCP. But unless this change was amazing, they would have a lot of the players raging; feedback from SiSi should have been enough to show that it wasn't ready for production yet.
There wasn't a "need" to fix anything, and there was a strong reason NOT to push something this impacting to production systems. So there had to be some sort of reason for this change and to forge ahead in spite of negative feedback.
They write their code in Python, which by and large is portable.
I had a strange thought that I'm hoping isn't true: Are we testing DUST's new inventory system?
Please say this isn't true.
now that you mention it, this unified inventory works like a charm for games like world of warcraft, if this is how WoW's bag management works, it'll be awesome, if the World of Darkness is like WoW, then we, Eve players may well be the beta testers of WoD's Inventory System... Cool!!!  NOT!!!
see, with games like WoW, you don't need to open your bag all the time, but you need to "carry" a set stuff like potions, elixirs, even a set of armor and weapons for different roles, and other necessities. damn remembered playing WoW that i always have half my bags full of something.....
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Knalldari Testpilot
4
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Posted - 2012.05.25 20:29:00 -
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Kile Kitmoore wrote:The new Inventory window should have been your new Asset Manager window!
this |
Keyza
Space Chop Shop
4
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Posted - 2012.05.25 20:46:00 -
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CCP are too bussy atm with DUST .... so i guess for the moment let the eve like this ... play who like and will see later maybe in 20-30 day ppl will get used with it and stop cry
this is what CCp think at the moment from my point of view
thx again for the "great" patch ......
alredy 3 days from the great patch and no change for fking salvage and stupid inventory |
Messoroz
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
243
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Posted - 2012.05.25 20:47:00 -
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Skelf Scunner wrote: 35 seconds to open inventory =
Industry alt being mothballed =
-1 account
Read thread, the loading issue for POSes is fixed in the next build. |
Kasriel
122
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Posted - 2012.05.25 20:48:00 -
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Messoroz wrote:Skelf Scunner wrote: 35 seconds to open inventory =
Industry alt being mothballed =
-1 account Read thread, the loading issue for POSes is fixed in the next build.
inventory =/= POS i've had loadtimes almost that high at a station just so you know |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
726
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Posted - 2012.05.25 21:49:00 -
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the warzone control table of the FW window sorts the "capture status" column wrong. Please let it handle the numbers properly it looks as it sorts it as plain strings.
a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105
You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
EarthZone
HomeZone
0
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Posted - 2012.05.25 21:57:00 -
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Mother of all gods, what an s*** with this new inventory. /o\
As long as i do not get the good old inventory and hangar back, i'm not willing to play my favorite MMO anymore.
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MotherMoon
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
730
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Posted - 2012.05.25 22:33:00 -
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Knalldari Testpilot wrote:Kile Kitmoore wrote:The new Inventory window should have been your new Asset Manager window! this
seriously! it IS USEFUL, but it's poorly pushed into eve without any forethought
Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
Alexia Killfist
The Wise Man's Force
0
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Posted - 2012.05.25 23:09:00 -
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REMOVE the unified window patch, make it OPTIONAL or FIX it, please.
I like having my ships, station inventory, and cargo ALL open when I dock. The rest I can live with, but it will still suck if you don't at least fix that. Browsing for new windows to open is a pain. I've been subscribed now for close to nine years -it's hard to accept a change to something that wasn't broken to begin with.
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Chloe Celeste
Aerospace IronWorks
13
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Posted - 2012.05.25 23:18:00 -
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Knalldari Testpilot wrote:Kile Kitmoore wrote:The new Inventory window should have been your new Asset Manager window! this
I agree, the Unified Inventory just makes more sense to put it as the Assets (Alt + T) rather than replacing the windows that make up the items hanger, ships hanger, all corporation hangers, pos corporation hangers, and the cargobay.
Seriously, there was nothing wrong with that and with Unified Inventory as the assets window that would have been great!
If anyone disagrees with me please make yourself known.
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Chloe Celeste
Aerospace IronWorks
13
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Posted - 2012.05.25 23:25:00 -
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By the logic of the dev posts I've read about Unified Inventory one could interpret that by having less windows is good.
Why not put everything that eve has to offer in one window? One window to rule them all! |
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