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Marisol Shimaya
Artic Circle
The I.D.E.A.
42
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:31:00 -
[931] - Quote
Marisol Shimaya wrote:Quote: Tranquility will be rebooted at 16:06 UTC to fix potential issues with inter-node communication, more information is available in this forum thread . The server expected to be back online at 16:30 UTC Hoping that .......
The server expected to be back online at 16:45 UTC
FREEDOM and OUR RIGHTS |
Ribikoka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
81
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:34:00 -
[932] - Quote
Marisol Shimaya wrote:Marisol Shimaya wrote:Quote: Tranquility will be rebooted at 16:06 UTC to fix potential issues with inter-node communication, more information is available in this forum thread . The server expected to be back online at 16:30 UTC Hoping that ....... The server expected to be back online at 16:45 UTC
Just what excepted from Inferno. Burn like a hell. :PPP
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yunafan2004
Nox Noctis Industrius
Novus Dominatum
8
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:36:00 -
[933] - Quote
Ribikoka wrote:Marisol Shimaya wrote:Marisol Shimaya wrote:Quote: Tranquility will be rebooted at 16:06 UTC to fix potential issues with inter-node communication, more information is available in this forum thread . The server expected to be back online at 16:30 UTC Hoping that ....... The server expected to be back online at 16:45 UTC Just what excepted from Inferno. Burn like a hell. :PPP
Hey maybe they heard our crys and are returning our inventory?!?!?!? hahah I know wishful thinking...... |
Tolmar
Capital Industries Research And Development
Fidelas Constans
20
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:38:00 -
[934] - Quote
yunafan2004 wrote:Ribikoka wrote:Marisol Shimaya wrote:Marisol Shimaya wrote:Quote: Tranquility will be rebooted at 16:06 UTC to fix potential issues with inter-node communication, more information is available in this forum thread . The server expected to be back online at 16:30 UTC Hoping that ....... The server expected to be back online at 16:45 UTC Just what excepted from Inferno. Burn like a hell. :PPP Hey maybe they heard our crys and are returning our inventory?!?!?!? hahah I know wishful thinking......
we all are hoping for this BRING BACK OLD UI! |
Kile Kitmoore
48
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:40:00 -
[935] - Quote
Solmirana Kelranorra wrote:Ribikoka wrote:Urgg Boolean wrote:Many current players have identified the Unified Inventory as a game breaker. I judge it's value based upon what a new player would think if they utilized the free trial for the first time. I doubt few, if any, would disagree that a new player would go "WTF is this ****" and uninstall the game.
Really not ? I brought 14 new players to the game in the last 2 months, all of this players without exceptions feel anger for this crap inventory. 6 players instantly left from the game the others thinking about it. Before this changes, all of them enjoyed the game, but now not. Many old friends told to me, they wont renew their subscriptions too, they will waiting when CCP will realise they made a mistake and they will try to fix this again. They dont want to pay for a half finished work. They want playing and fun. But this new inventory item just frustate them and that's not really fun. I am a new player, and I like the new inventory system quite a bit better. Not trying to go to war or anything stupid, or flame or fight. But I'm new and didn't get used to the old one and like the new system better. Got all my station containers labeled and like how they pop up as a list that I can then subdivide further if I like and access off a single branching tree. I understand that I am not dealing with the volume of items or situations that long time players are. As new players however me, my brother, my cousin and my best friend all like the new system better by quite a bit and we're all new players.
If you really are new, which in EVE on these forums the truth is let's just say a bit flexible, my response is, good for you. I mean that sincerely, I am not personally advocating a roll-back but I reserve the right to ask for one if this new UI can't not at least give players back what they had before. Some people think this is a lost cause and want the roll-back, I really do understand their thinking because it could take months for CCP to work this thing out.
If players like the new UI I don't want to take that away but at the same time I don't want CCP to throw what could be thousands of other players under the bus either. If people like the new UI they need to say why and people that don't need to do the same. CCP can't sit around and cherry-pick all the good and pat themselves on the back for a job well done either. Gather the feedback, from both sides, HTFU and start communicating what their immediate plans are for getting things back on track.
Oh, welcome to the game! |
Ad'Hakim Tahous
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
122
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:43:00 -
[936] - Quote
I find it disturbing. For me, the present situation is starting to 'feel' very much like a situation none of us want to see ever again.
Still hoping for a renewed outbreak of self-criticism in Reykjavic |
Marisol Shimaya
Artic Circle
The I.D.E.A.
44
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:46:00 -
[937] - Quote
Kile Kitmoore wrote:Solmirana Kelranorra wrote:Ribikoka wrote:Urgg Boolean wrote:Many current players have identified the Unified Inventory as a game breaker. I judge it's value based upon what a new player would think if they utilized the free trial for the first time. I doubt few, if any, would disagree that a new player would go "WTF is this ****" and uninstall the game.
Really not ? I brought 14 new players to the game in the last 2 months, all of this players without exceptions feel anger for this crap inventory. 6 players instantly left from the game the others thinking about it. Before this changes, all of them enjoyed the game, but now not. Many old friends told to me, they wont renew their subscriptions too, they will waiting when CCP will realise they made a mistake and they will try to fix this again. They dont want to pay for a half finished work. They want playing and fun. But this new inventory item just frustate them and that's not really fun. I am a new player, and I like the new inventory system quite a bit better. Not trying to go to war or anything stupid, or flame or fight. But I'm new and didn't get used to the old one and like the new system better. Got all my station containers labeled and like how they pop up as a list that I can then subdivide further if I like and access off a single branching tree. I understand that I am not dealing with the volume of items or situations that long time players are. As new players however me, my brother, my cousin and my best friend all like the new system better by quite a bit and we're all new players. If you really are new, which in EVE on these forums the truth is let's just say a bit flexible, my response is, good for you. I mean that sincerely, I am not personally advocating a roll-back but I reserve the right to ask for one if this new UI can't not at least give players back what they had before. Some people think this is a lost cause and want the roll-back, I really do understand their thinking because it could take months for CCP to work this thing out. If players like the new UI I don't want to take that away but at the same time I don't want CCP to throw what could be thousands of other players under the bus either. If people like the new UI they need to say why and people that don't need to do the same. CCP can't sit around and cherry-pick all the good and pat themselves on the back for a job well done either. Gather the feedback, from both side, they need to HTFU and start communicating what their immediate plans are for getting things back on track. Oh, welcome to the game!
Kile Kitmoore you started to play eve at 2008.08.31 01:10 nice but seems like you have playing that much you need to know this ; I had another characters before this and was about 2005. I can tell you what eve have been doing but it will take long time to write all down so I'll think that I know more than you.
FREEDOM and OUR RIGHTS |
Arch Ville
Renegade Vipers
Intrepid Crossing
5
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:46:00 -
[938] - Quote
In the name of God give us the old inventory back. At least give us the option to use the old inventory, Like an option in the settings old style or ****** style.
Something like that. |
Victor Sane
Aerodyne Nova
5
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:47:00 -
[939] - Quote
Yes that is something that was said earlier in another thread to others, that ccp and players should sit down and discuss with eachother at some point. Steps should be taken but right now the are swarmed with task youre not even imagine'ing right now.
they should have a formal player group who will give them feedback instead of viewing millions of threads.
You want the full story go to island and ask for an interview to sit down with the people in charge. |
Miss Erkens
Broedende Bakkebaarden
AL3XAND3R.
1
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:50:00 -
[940] - Quote
PLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS build in an option 'inventory old style'' |
Chloe Celeste
Aerospace IronWorks
DRACONIAN COVENANT
11
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:51:00 -
[941] - Quote
Victor Sane wrote:
well done capsing like a child :)
You obviously have not seen my previous posts.
#738 - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1351966#post1351966
#825 - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1354926#post1354926
#951 - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1361766#post1361766
Also, I am trying to show how much I hate Unifed Inventory and want the previous system back because it worked so well. |
Marisol Shimaya
Artic Circle
The I.D.E.A.
44
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:51:00 -
[942] - Quote
CCP after your reboot the server and my inventory still crash my client
FREEDOM and OUR RIGHTS |
Capsuleer Newton
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
21
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:52:00 -
[943] - Quote
Solmirana Kelranorra wrote:Ribikoka wrote:Urgg Boolean wrote:Many current players have identified the Unified Inventory as a game breaker. I judge it's value based upon what a new player would think if they utilized the free trial for the first time. I doubt few, if any, would disagree that a new player would go "WTF is this ****" and uninstall the game.
Really not ? I brought 14 new players to the game in the last 2 months, all of this players without exceptions feel anger for this crap inventory. 6 players instantly left from the game the others thinking about it. Before this changes, all of them enjoyed the game, but now not. Many old friends told to me, they wont renew their subscriptions too, they will waiting when CCP will realise they made a mistake and they will try to fix this again. They dont want to pay for a half finished work. They want playing and fun. But this new inventory item just frustate them and that's not really fun. I am a new player, and I like the new inventory system quite a bit better. Not trying to go to war or anything stupid, or flame or fight. But I'm new and didn't get used to the old one and like the new system better. Got all my station containers labeled and like how they pop up as a list that I can then subdivide further if I like and access off a single branching tree. I understand that I am not dealing with the volume of items or situations that long time players are. As new players however me, my brother, my cousin and my best friend all like the new system better by quite a bit and we're all new players.
yup, its nice, until you acquire stuff more than 1000 stacks, which is the limit of station, and more stuff even more that you'll see that circling arrow in your hold for a few seconds every time you dock, yes, it is nice, when you want a container or station "items" to follow a specific sort order and then you want another container or your hangar to have a different sort order and the next time you dock, it's all but messed up.
yes, it is nice that every time you loot a wreck your whole inventory reloads itself, or that you need a bit larger window now to navigate thru the index' tree which reduces your screen space of seeing the awesomeness of the Eve's moving wallpaper, errr... environment...
yes, indeed it is nice, until you feel the unnecessary reloading of inventory when your stuff starts to pile up.... but yes, i was once a toon that owns nothing but an imparior and 1 civvie gun and 1 civvie miner.... yes i was one....
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Leucy Kerastase
JFT SYSTEMS
10
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:55:00 -
[944] - Quote
ISD Libertina wrote:As per CCP Optimal, this was sadly forgotten in the original blog but mentioned in linked post.
Although it wasn't clear enough, you can find a reference to it in the patch notes.
"Patch notes for EVE Online: Inferno" wrote:Unified Inventory
Cut and paste shortcuts implemented for inventory items. |
Isabella Rascario
Delphinian Enterprises
Caldera State
1
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:56:00 -
[945] - Quote
As a corp inventory/industrialist/POS jockey I found the UI stuff tedious to deal with to say the least. Spinning forever to load up windows it certainly feels slower. POS stuff is 
Moving items between corp hangar bays is awkward too. If you mouse over it, it switches to that view, so then you have to switch it back if you weren't done in the source hanger. Dragging-to-tab on the old system was much simpler.
Some of our corp was so pissed that they changed it, they went to play something else for the time being, just logging for skill queue changes.
TL;DR
Give us the old user interface back! |
Isabella Rascario
Delphinian Enterprises
Caldera State
1
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:58:00 -
[946] - Quote
Victor Sane wrote:Yes that is something that was said earlier in another thread to others, that ccp and players should sit down and discuss with eachother at some point. Steps should be taken but right now the are swarmed with task youre not even imagine'ing right now.
they should have a formal player group who will give them feedback instead of viewing millions of threads.
.
What, like CSM? Or the testers on SiSi? Oh, wait.. |
Meytal
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:59:00 -
[947] - Quote
Since it sounds like that few people (if any) raged about how hard the previous inventory management system worked, there wasn't a lot of pressure to fix what wasn't broken. So, there wasn't a "need" here.
By now, CCP has to know that when they make a change, a lot of people will rage just so they can rage at CCP. But unless this change was amazing, they would have a lot of the players raging; feedback from SiSi should have been enough to show that it wasn't ready for production yet.
There wasn't a "need" to fix anything, and there was a strong reason NOT to push something this impacting to production systems. So there had to be some sort of reason for this change and to forge ahead in spite of negative feedback.
They write their code in Python, which by and large is portable.
I had a strange thought that I'm hoping isn't true: Are we testing DUST's new inventory system?
Please say this isn't true.
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James Razor
RazorCorporation
26
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:01:00 -
[948] - Quote
Victor Sane wrote:Yes that is something that was said earlier in another thread to others, that ccp and players should sit down and discuss with eachother at some point. Steps should be taken but right now the are swarmed with task youre not even imagine'ing right now.
they should have a formal player group who will give them feedback instead of viewing millions of threads.
You want the full story go to island and ask for an interview to sit down with the people in charge.
Erm.. actually, i realy think that we are allready beyond words with CCP. They should have learned their lesson last year. But i guess they didnt.
I dont know what they could say to convince any of us. I guess it is like Hilmar said last year: Dont listen to what they say, look at what they are doing.
And until now they failed horribly with what they did.
Old Bitter Veteran, SuperCap Owner, EX-GBC / EX-IT Member.
And as it looks, soon to be (again) EX - Eve Player. |
Ribikoka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
82
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:02:00 -
[949] - Quote
Victor Sane wrote:Yes that is something that was said earlier in another thread to others, that ccp and players should sit down and discuss with eachother at some point. Steps should be taken but right now the are swarmed with task youre not even imagine'ing right now.
they should have a formal player group who will give them feedback instead of viewing millions of threads.
You want the full story go to island and ask for an interview to sit down with the people in charge.
That's why we had CSM. But they are just the CCP puppets. For them the most important thing their tickets to Island.
We reported with huge amounts of feedback from bad and wrong developed parts of inventory system, while the CSM puppets told everyone, the new inventory system is great and some other blabla in the Eve Radio.
We made a video, that's implied almost all errors and bugs,
What happened ? We got a message from developer, they dont want to create usertest, because they dont believe to players, what we reported. LOL
I hope they enjoyed now the rage of users, what they did.
We have a good phrase with my mother tongue. "Amit, f+ęzt+¬l edd is meg!"
"It is used when you warn somebody beforehand not to do something because it is not that good idea but he/she is stubborn and not listining to you just does what he/she wants/thinks and after that he/she gets in trouble.
I said not to have sex with that crazy chick because you were never getting rid off her so "Edd meg, amit f+ęzt+¬l" = "take the consequences and solve the problem by yourself"" |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
927
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:02:00 -
[950] - Quote
Solmirana Kelranorra wrote:
I am a new player, and I like the new inventory system quite a bit better. Not trying to go to war or anything stupid, or flame or fight. But I'm new and didn't get used to the old one and like the new system better. Got all my station containers labeled and like how they pop up as a list that I can then subdivide further if I like and access off a single branching tree. I understand that I am not dealing with the volume of items or situations that long time players are. As new players however me, my brother, my cousin and my best friend all like the new system better by quite a bit and we're all new players.
I believe the basic issue is that in a game like EvE it's impossible to create a "one size fits all".
Now, most other - much simpler - MMOs deal with this by:
1) Giving players ability to develop their add ons that allow them to reshape the UI as they prefer.
2) Giving players a large number of pre-coded options to let them hand pick their preferred configuration.
EvE has neither. Therefore if they create a newbie-friendly UI that works very well in their first year of game life it WILL stink for 4-8 years vets with hundreds of ships, hangars, POSes and so on.
What's wrong, what's too bold in asking for a check box to enable or disable the UI? So both new and old players are happy.
Oh, and don't come tell me it's impossible, old code and tralala. I have developed for 20 years, there's nothing impossible if you want to achieve it for real. Refactoring old code is a task that can be done. Sure, it is a cost, but hey, the end users were not those who chose to jump into this venture, they won't want to adsorb the negative consequences.
Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Marisol Shimaya
Artic Circle
The I.D.E.A.
45
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:02:00 -
[951] - Quote
Damit CCP
I can't play eve until you can fix the Inventory
Still crash my eve clients when I try to play
FREEDOM and OUR RIGHTS |
Ad'Hakim Tahous
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
124
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:06:00 -
[952] - Quote
Callidus Dux wrote:Oh no! Is it possible that CCP gets dumber every day? Now there is another Thread from another CCP guy who asks " How should we improve the inventory UI?". Read the EXISTING Threads and do not split the whole community into different locations in the forum! You have your feedback, You got your feedback from SiSi and the minority of the community hates your sh!t. At least build a version so that I, and all others, are able to rebuild the old UI 100%; 1to1 again. NO one need all information in one window. WE demand hundreds of its own, adjustable in size and position, windows. We demand the exact copy of the old UI! And please stop introduceing more threads HOW SHOULD WE FIX IT? You have your comments: HereHEREHERE!!!HERE!!!!!!They all say: bring back the old view. Nothing others. Just the old, hundreds of own windows, view! How many threads do you need more till you have found out, that your UI is absolute crapsh!t and that it is impossible to rescue this project? BRING BACK THE EXACT COPY OF THE OLD UI!!! 100% and 1to1 as it was before 22.05.2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!  With every further question and next thread you will bring more hate into the community! STOP IT! Just roll back!
Holy S**t! Thank you Callidus for spotting this. Unbelieveable.
OK folks, how about a few of you go visit that other thread and, politely, firmly, clearly advise Optimal to use this thread. Just screaming at the guy isn't gonna help us.
Sorry to say but this reeks. As a willing suspension of disbelief, I'm going to assume that Soundwave is out of the office and has no idea this other thread is out there. |
Ad'Hakim Tahous
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
124
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:07:00 -
[953] - Quote
Ribikoka wrote:This is another lol.
"Why is there a drone bay showing for Tengu when there is no drone bay ???"
ummm... because there IS no spoon?  |
Kile Kitmoore
50
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:08:00 -
[954] - Quote
Marisol Shimaya wrote:Kile Kitmoore wrote:Solmirana Kelranorra wrote:Ribikoka wrote:Urgg Boolean wrote:Many current players have identified the Unified Inventory as a game breaker. I judge it's value based upon what a new player would think if they utilized the free trial for the first time. I doubt few, if any, would disagree that a new player would go "WTF is this ****" and uninstall the game.
Really not ? I brought 14 new players to the game in the last 2 months, all of this players without exceptions feel anger for this crap inventory. 6 players instantly left from the game the others thinking about it. Before this changes, all of them enjoyed the game, but now not. Many old friends told to me, they wont renew their subscriptions too, they will waiting when CCP will realise they made a mistake and they will try to fix this again. They dont want to pay for a half finished work. They want playing and fun. But this new inventory item just frustate them and that's not really fun. I am a new player, and I like the new inventory system quite a bit better. Not trying to go to war or anything stupid, or flame or fight. But I'm new and didn't get used to the old one and like the new system better. Got all my station containers labeled and like how they pop up as a list that I can then subdivide further if I like and access off a single branching tree. I understand that I am not dealing with the volume of items or situations that long time players are. As new players however me, my brother, my cousin and my best friend all like the new system better by quite a bit and we're all new players. If you really are new, which in EVE on these forums the truth is let's just say a bit flexible, my response is, good for you. I mean that sincerely, I am not personally advocating a roll-back but I reserve the right to ask for one if this new UI can't not at least give players back what they had before. Some people think this is a lost cause and want the roll-back, I really do understand their thinking because it could take months for CCP to work this thing out. If players like the new UI I don't want to take that away but at the same time I don't want CCP to throw what could be thousands of other players under the bus either. If people like the new UI they need to say why and people that don't need to do the same. CCP can't sit around and cherry-pick all the good and pat themselves on the back for a job well done either. Gather the feedback, from both side, they need to HTFU and start communicating what their immediate plans are for getting things back on track. Oh, welcome to the game! Kile Kitmoore you started to play eve at 2008.08.31 01:10 nice but seems like you have playing that much you need to know this ; I had another characters before this and was about 2005. I can tell you what eve have been doing but it will take long time to write all down so I'll think that I know more than you.
You know what I was going to let that post slide but you know what, f*ck it. My response was to a new player who actually enjoys the new UI, which I have not fault with but also wanted to convey there are serious problems with it also. Now you show up with your e-peen about length of account with your little insult for what purpose?
So my response to you; "oh great one with account of old who truly knows more about this game then I , please take a moment and impose your great wisdom and explain, WTF are you talking about?"
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Mournful Conciousness
Special Situations
TOHA Conglomerate
53
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:13:00 -
[955] - Quote
re-posted from town hall:
Seleene wrote:
"Mostly we are not raging (in public) because it doesn't help. Those days are past now because CCP isn't As for the calls to 'revert' back to the old system, that's not going to happen. It can only evolve forward from here. If you think that the changes to the inventory system involve a "couple of lines in the client" then you have no idea of the complete and utter mess that is the 10 year old server code implemented by dozens of previous employees, many of whom no longer work at CCP."
Thank you for the encouraging words Seleene.
I think the point that the technically savvy amongst us are trying to make is that in a client-server system such as eve there is a strong distinction between data (what's in the hangar) and presentation (how it's displayed).
We are trying to make the point that regardless of the reasons of the underlying DATA changes, the PRESENTATION should not have changed, and it can indeed be reverted IN ISOLATION.
No, it's not "a couple of lines" but neither does it require re-work on the server (I am making the assumption here that CCP are using industry standard best-practice here - something along the lines of the controller-model-view paradigm).
The current presentation is a thin veneer over the underlying data structures - that much is obvious to anyone who writes these things for a living (me included). Players do not need this - they need an immersive, contextual and convenient interface. The fact is that for most of us, the old visual interface was far superior. I think all we are asking for is that the new one is made to look and feel like the old one, and we can start adding improvements from there.
Does this make sense?
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Ad'Hakim Tahous
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
124
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:13:00 -
[956] - Quote
Kali Mezuko wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:Hey guys
We should have another round of fixes/changes coming this Tuesday (Monday is a public holiday in Iceland). I'll post that list in the thread Tuesday morning. Your management team has got to address what appears to be a complete lack of process. This is yet another debacle that is completely self made. The only thing in your favour is it is not as game breaking as the last one, the game is still playable, just incredibly frustrating... I presume you do actually QA this game internally? You have to storyboard how people actually play Eve, and then test against that... Oh, and releasing a major release mid week before a holiday period is not very sensible. Your developers are on holiday when you need them the most...
THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Brutal Red
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:18:00 -
[957] - Quote
Meytal wrote:stuff
I had a strange thought that I'm hoping isn't true: Are we testing DUST's new inventory system?
Please say this isn't true.
Didn't you get the memo ?
Why do you think they pushed the new inventory system (probl. with some pushing of Sony/Dust??) .
Maybe a deadline that needs to be met or something like that , working UI or not .
Just speculating here until we get some real info from CCP .
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Kasriel
95
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:26:00 -
[958] - Quote
Brutal Red wrote:Meytal wrote:stuff
I had a strange thought that I'm hoping isn't true: Are we testing DUST's new inventory system?
Please say this isn't true.
Didn't you get the memo ? Why do you think they pushed the new inventory system (probl. with some pushing of Sony/Dust??) . Maybe a deadline that needs to be met or something like that , working UI or not . Just speculating here until we get some real info from CCP .
actually considering incarna was their testbed for the WoD engine it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't take any pushing at all it's not like we're paying customers or anything right? |
Ribikoka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
87
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:27:00 -
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Kile Kitmoore wrote:Marisol Shimaya wrote:Solmirana Kelranorra wrote:Ribikoka wrote:Urgg Boolean wrote:Many current players have identified the Unified Inventory as a game breaker. I judge it's value based upon what a new player would think if they utilized the free trial for the first time. I doubt few, if any, would disagree that a new player would go "WTF is this ****" and uninstall the game.
Really not ? I brought 14 new players to the game in the last 2 months, all of this players without exceptions feel anger for this crap inventory. 6 players instantly left from the game the others thinking about it. Before this changes, all of them enjoyed the game, but now not. Many old friends told to me, they wont renew their subscriptions too, they will waiting when CCP will realise they made a mistake and they will try to fix this again. They dont want to pay for a half finished work. They want playing and fun. But this new inventory item just frustate them and that's not really fun. If you really are new, which in EVE on these forums the truth is let's just say a bit flexible, my response is, good for you. I mean that sincerely, I am not personally advocating a roll-back but I reserve the right to ask for one if this new UI can't not at least give players back what they had before. Some people think this is a lost cause and want the roll-back, I really do understand their thinking because it could take months for CCP to work this thing out. If players like the new UI I don't want to take that away but at the same time I don't want CCP to throw what could be thousands of other players under the bus either. If people like the new UI they need to say why and people that don't need to do the same. CCP can't sit around and cherry-pick all the good and pat themselves on the back for a job well done either. Gather the feedback, from both side, they need to HTFU and start communicating what their immediate plans are for getting things back on track. Oh, welcome to the game! Kile Kitmoore you started to play eve at 2008.08.31 01:10 nice but seems like you have playing that much you need to know this ; I had another characters before this and was about 2005. I can tell you what eve have been doing but it will take long time to write all down so I'll think that I know more than you. You know what I was going to let that post slide but you know what, f*ck it. My response was to a new player who actually enjoys the new UI, which I have not fault with but also wanted to convey there are serious problems with it also. Now you show up with your e-peen about length of account with your little insult for what purpose? So my response to you; "oh great one with account of old who truly knows more about this game then I , please take a moment and impose your great wisdom and explain, WTF are you talking about?"
Go away liar. You wrote "I am a new player", after then we wrote, you are not nw player, we checked your borning date, you tried another lying. And no we not fck it.
You talkin about insulting when you use fckit word for another player. Go to another place to lie, here is the adults' playground. |
Victor Sane
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Chloe ive seen lots of posts frankly i dont feel like browsing them all through myself, Iknow people feels that this is messed up and screaming caps in your mind might help you.
But it wont make them listen to you.
yes granted it may seem unfair to you and others cause their posts dont get reply'ed to but they are busy. Trying to undo the mess and rewriting stuff disussing things over again.
This and many other things like people screaming i will unsub and swear stuff at them wont help either thats the reason why they dont want to answer us. |
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