Nice empty blog :)

The button to open directly in "compact mode" is the way to go. Thanks CCP, I'm more and more confident in this new UI now.

The ability to drag out the items out of the tree will be totally awesome <3

Will there ever be a way to revert to the old inventory system? I'm not sold on the new one at all, regardless of changes.

"WeGÇÖre going to allow renaming of all POS structures"
wait, what?! Stop making me want to redeploy a POS!

Thanks for addressing and quickly communicating about the upcoming changes.

I will however go fairly far in implementing feedback that improves this piece of UI though.

Will there ever be a way to revert to the old inventory system? I'm not sold on the new one at all, regardless of changes.

Good luck reading the Niagara waterfall of posts from player fueled (fuel ... hehe) with passion for their tender UI :D


Do you have any clues if the POS changes will improve the loading performances ?

Loot containers? Otherwise, great job!

I know it would be a mess and/or a nightmare, but maybe if there was a way to have something like the overview filters for each inventory window, where you set what can and cannot open in that window (and, consequently, what will and will not appear in the tree view). That way, I could make it so that the only thing to ever open in my preferred cargo hold window is ship cargo holds (and then I could set it so that they will never appear anywhere else), and if no currently open window allows for the inventory I try to open, a new window pops up.

No, probably not. I will however go fairly far in implementing feedback that improves this piece of UI though. Feedback continues to be welcome.

Hm, I really don't like the new UI, is it really too much work to make it optional?

my biggest problem is looting containers after salvaging wrecks.
If there are 50 containers around my noctis, I'll open them and click on "Loot all". Sounds easy, but the UI window always jumps back to my cargo, and I have to click on another container again, this takes ages if you have a lot of containers around your ship.

Before this ......... Patch, I opened all containers and just hit the "Loot All" Button in every window, please bring this back

No, probably not.

Hm, I really don't like the new UI, is it really too much work to make it optional?

my biggest problem is looting containers after salvaging wrecks.
If there are 50 containers around my noctis, I'll open them and click on "Loot all". Sounds easy, but the UI window always jumps back to my cargo, and I have to click on another container again, this takes ages if you have a lot of containers around your ship.

Before this ......... Patch, I opened all containers and just hit the "Loot All" Button in every window, please bring this back

Regarding this. We're talking about everything from having a favorites column for stuff, specific settings and even a search function there. Most of it is just in a stage where we're looking at it, but we're definitely looking into options like you're describing and other improvements.

Ditto. The inventory could be nice on the assets, but not in my hangar and cargoholds...

Shift-clicking works fine, but like with all shortcuts, you need to know it exists. WeGÇÖre going to allow inventories to be GÇ£dragged outGÇ¥ of the main UI. ItGÇÖs basically the same functionality as shift clicking, but instead of being hidden behind a hotkey, you can simply drag and drop it out with your mouse

When you use a shortcut to open a specific bay, it will open in GÇ£separatedGÇ¥ mode, with the tree view compact so you can quickly get the view you want.

One is persisting windows that only work in certain places (you have a window that only works in the station and you want it to be open and in the same location the next time you dock for example).

Also, make the extra, useless-in-most-circumstances information optional. I don't want to see a wide chunk of the UI wasted with how much the ammo in my hold is worth. At all. Ever. It's useless information to me, it clutters the interface, so why must I be forced to have it wasting what little screen real estate I've got?

Hm, I really don't like the new UI, is it really too much work to make it optional?

my biggest problem is looting containers after salvaging wrecks.
If there are 50 containers around my noctis, I'll open them and click on "Loot all". Sounds easy, but the UI window always jumps back to my cargo, and I have to click on another container again, this takes ages if you have a lot of containers around your ship.

Before this ......... Patch, I opened all containers and just hit the "Loot All" Button in every window, please bring this back

Why? No offense but is it that hard? Just a little checkbox..

Will check this out and post an update.

the inventory system just doesn't work over complicated to say the least, anyone carry a bag in a bag in a bag or 3 bags?

Will there ever be a way to revert to the old inventory system? I'm not sold on the new one at all, regardless of changes.

^ i liked this part.


Minuses:

So the main difference for me now after the update , that i have to RE-Open my items and ship hangar EVERY time I dock. Because must always be visible (at least for me).

Looting in space - now a pain in the ass.

Corporation hangar button (my god- its gone!). Why did you guys erased it?

Pros:

Ermm... Yeah; its an upgrade...
It is something new and shiny..
Maybe some of the players (specially newbies) will like it.

The "estimate price" - looks very nice, but rubbish ; at least in Aridia region the prices shown doesn't make any sense.


Conclusion:
I liked how it was. There were maybe several windows, but I knew where everything was and where should I look for my stuff.
I liked the big icons , i knew whats in my containers. Now- its only letters. Lots of them in a huge tree. I am confused. Cant find anything fast.

It is just the same as it was with the "Captains quarters" ; until CCP made a wonderful button: TURN THE F**NG UPDATE OFF aka "Don't load station environment".

Now: can I please have my old windows back?

No, probably not. I will however go fairly far in implementing feedback that improves this piece of UI though. Feedback continues to be welcome.

It should be a simple double click to open separate windows, not all this shift+click or drag stuff. What is wrong with just using double click?

When you use a shortcut to open a specific bay, it will open in GÇ£separatedGÇ¥ mode, with the tree view compact so you can quickly get the view you want.

I said the same thing about the 'new' forums... it eventually won me over

Thank you for addressing these issues quickly. I am unsure what happened to the optional nature of this UI change that we were promised (I'd link where that was told to us but it's currently impossible to find with search terms like 'optional'), and I have looked everywhere for the button to turn it off and don't see it. Good to see you're fixing it, that issue was going to cause a lot of people to quit. It currently makes the game much harder to play for many activities. If I didn't think you were going to address it, I would leave. I don't want to leave. I want the issues to be fixed.

Still looking for that option to turn it off...or the post that said that it would be optional. He was all excited about it, too, I'm going to keep looking for that post.

WeGÇÖre going to allow renaming of all POS structures, this should let players navigate more easily in the tree view, instead of a large group of identical items.

\o/

does this mean only in the inventory window or mean we can rename SMA's and CHA's just like drugs labs etc?

Maintaining two systems really isn't an option...

No, probably not. I will however go fairly far in implementing feedback that improves this piece of UI though. Feedback continues to be welcome.

Thanks for listening the feedback CCP!

* I personally would like the option to have newly opened UI windows default to the full view with the object tree -- and inherit the width of the objects panel from the parent window. Yeah, I know, it's just one extra click to reveal the objects panel, but I'm lazy and hate clicks.

I'd still like to suggest this:

When filters are active, folders or items with none of that item present become hidden (or at least have an option for this) - this would make POS management that much easier.

I.E. - Filter with 'ore and minerals' and it will automagically hide all the guns and other structures that are of no concern to you.

Thoughts?

Excellent list of improvements, especially the ability to rename modules. They are going to enable some workflows that will really make the power of the UI UI shine shine.

I will bring *really* expensive alcohol to Iceland if you promise to:

* Let us designate favorite containers, which get floated to the top of the sort order. In my WH corp, for example, in each POS corp members have designated CHA's they share. Being able to say "In POS A, this CHA is my favorite, and in POS B, this CHA is my favorite" would be a huge improvement even over being able to rename everything.

* I personally would like the option to have newly opened UI windows default to the full view with the object tree -- and inherit the width of the objects panel from the parent window. Yeah, I know, it's just one extra click to reveal the objects panel, but I'm lazy and hate clicks.

This is actually a bug and it's being fixed :)

rename..............EVERYTHING.

Then just give us what we want.... give us back the old system

Maintaining two systems really isn't an option and I've never seen this promised anywhere. As I mentioned, we'll continue making changes and making fixes (like the looting reverting to the main hangar) though, so if you're missing any specific piece of functionality we'll definitely look at the viability of implementing it.

Will I be able to give my large artillery batteries exciting names?

I posted this in one of the threadnaughts, and wanted to repost it just in case it got missed:

Dropping onto tabs doesn't work as it used to:
I shift-click two containers to get them in separate windows (Orca cargo hold and ore hold). I drop one of the new windows onto the other so they are now tabbed in a single window. I click the cargo hold tab to have it the "active tab".

I used to be able to drag items from wherever and drop directly onto the tab of the "hidden" ore hold in the tabbed window (moving from cargo/corp hangar to ore hold). Now dropping onto any tab doesn't move the items.

rename..............EVERYTHING.

You may want to re-allow moving items between tabs again (especially when manipulating the Corp hangar).
The functionality of separate windows is nerfed without that ability as you have to _still_ use the tree to move/transfer items.

I don't see the above explicitly stated in the blog.

And another thing, consider making an independent "mother" UI window for the Unified Inventory.
That will eliminate positioning issues when you separate out the child windows.

Case example:
I always have an active ship cargo window, resized to to absolute minimum possible, tucked next to the main capacitor display.
This serves as both reminder and a quick cargo list/drop/loot in space.

Post patch, with the Unified Inventory, it treats this cargo window as the MAIN UI window - which inevitably leads to a lot of grief.
Please also thin those thick bars and un-needed isk est. so I can get more lines out of the cargo window.

P.S.

Another two things that were changed:

1. Station Items button and ship hangar button - that was a good thing; now its gone too.

Regarding this. We're talking about everything from having a favorites column for stuff, specific settings and even a search function there. Most of it is just in a stage where we're looking at it, but we're definitely looking into options like you're describing and other improvements.

Anyone else run into an issue when they're dragon dropping into the tree and you hover too long and it opens up that location?

I understand why it works that way but I would never want to change containers while I'm dropping stuff.

Shift-clicking works fine, but like with all shortcuts, you need to know it exists. WeGÇÖre going to allow inventories to be GÇ£dragged outGÇ¥ of the main UI. ItGÇÖs basically the same functionality as shift clicking, but instead of being hidden behind a hotkey, you can simply drag and drop it out with your mouse.

You may want to re-allow moving items between tabs again (especially when manipulating the Corp hangar).
The functionality of separate windows is nerfed without that ability as you have to _still_ use the tree to move/transfer items.

I don't see the above explicitly stated in the blog.

One is persisting windows that only work in certain places (you have a window that only works in the
station and you want it to be open and in the same location the next time you dock for example).

but instead of being hidden behind a hotkey

(I've wanted to do this since forever, so getting to sneak this in makes me super happy )

Anyone else run into an issue when they're dragon dropping into the tree and you hover too long and it opens up that location?

I understand why it works that way but I would never want to change containers while I'm dropping stuff.

[quote=n2thefray]After testing, it seems somewhat... uneven. Some items are spot on, others are way over/under priced.

Two issues weGÇÖll fix but have not found the exact solution to

There are two things we-¦d really like to change but don-¦t have a nailed down solution to just yet.

One is persisting windows that only work in certain places (you have a window that only works in the station and you want it to be open and in the same location the next time you dock for example).

No, probably not. I will however go fairly far in implementing feedback that improves this piece of UI though. Feedback continues to be welcome.

Regarding this. We're talking about everything from having a favorites column for stuff, specific settings and even a search function there. Most of it is just in a stage where we're looking at it, but we're definitely looking into options like you're describing and other improvements.

Also, semi-cross post: What's the formula for the estimated price value at the bottom of the UI. After testing, it seems somewhat... uneven. Some items are spot on, others are way over/under priced.

And another thing, consider making an independent "mother" UI window for the Unified Inventory.
That will eliminate positioning issues when you separate out the child windows.

Case example:
I always have an active ship cargo window, resized to to absolute minimum possible, tucked next to the main capacitor display.
This serves as both reminder and a quick cargo list/drop/loot in space.

Post patch, with the Unified Inventory, it treats this cargo window as the MAIN UI window - which inevitably leads to a lot of grief.

Shift-clicking works fine, but like with all shortcuts, you need to know it exists. WeGÇÖre going to allow inventories to be GÇ£dragged outGÇ¥ of the main UI. ItGÇÖs basically the same functionality as shift clicking, but instead of being hidden behind a hotkey, you can simply drag and drop it out with your mouse.

One is persisting windows that only work in certain places (you have a window that only works in the station and you want it to be open and in the same location the next time you dock for example).

I want to see in inventory three view only the containters / cargohold / structure hangars, that I want to open.

So If I want (for example) to move some stuff from my ship cargo into corporate hangars:
1) I will click onto my cargohold / ship and set open cargohold (new window of cargohold will open with only this specific ship cargohold / dronebay / etc. in the inventory three of this window)
2) I will click onto my corporage hangars and set open (new window of corporate hangars will open with only corporate hangar in the inventory three of this window)
3) I can set that ship cargohold and corporate hangars are in the same window (with these two in inventory three ONLY)
4) I can set that Ship cargohold and corporate hangars are in two separated windows which will remeber their possitions and setting so next time i do it, I do not have to make these selections again.

I want to drag and drop item between these two windows (when separated) or from my ship cargo with active window to corporate hangar in inventory three (when in one window).

I want to have choose group or regroup some kind of cargoholds / containvers / corporate hangars / ship bays / items / station cotainers / everything where items can be putted in. I want to have chance to make for example two groups of these. When I make some kind of this group, I want to see in inventory three of this window only the containers which are in this group (nothing else).

I thing that this is the problem of all the palyers working with some kind off stuff.

Hope this is fully understanable ( english is not my native language).

Great to see a reasonably fast and positive response from CCP. For all the bitching yesterday I feel encouraged by these statements.

To note on one point made in the dev blog:

- "When you use a shortcut to open a specific bay, it will open in GÇ£separatedGÇ¥ mode, with the tree view compact so you can quickly get the view you want."

Assuming that the re-opened view will open where it was before, i.e. my 'cargo hold view' will be where I last opened it by itself, items, ships etc.

If those windows that are open also remember their position upon logout,login then I think there'll be no issues at all for me.

Verily, this annoys me to no end when I'm trying to dump loot & salvage into the appropriate areas of my corp hangar.

Also, semi-cross post: What's the formula for the estimated price value at the bottom of the UI. After testing, it seems somewhat... uneven. Some items are spot on, others are way over/under priced.

As I just said on twitter, this is nice and all, but shift-clicking still needs to die in a fire, ASAP. It is inefficient, compared to double-clicking. I can do one with a single hand, quickly. The other requires me to move my other hand away from whatever it was doing (cue bad jokes here) to find the shift key and hold it down.

Either allow us to determine whether to use shift-clicking or double-clicking as the "open separate container window" action, or change it back. And if you give us the option to choose, I suggest you slap some metrics-tracking into there - just to see how many people change it back. (As an aside, it is a damn good thing you removed the session change timer from changing ships. That particular change would have caused even -more- rage than is already present on the forums.)

Also, make the extra, useless-in-most-circumstances information optional. I don't want to see a wide chunk of the UI wasted with how much the ammo in my hold is worth. At all. Ever. It's useless information to me, it clutters the interface, so why must I be forced to have it wasting what little screen real estate I've got?

This is actually a bug and it's being fixed :)

No, probably not. I will however go fairly far in implementing feedback that improves this piece of UI though. Feedback continues to be welcome.

We might be able to work something out :)

We're going to do more changes. The stuff in the devblog are the immediate ones but we're also working on longer term ones. Favorites is one thing that keeps popping up.

rename..............EVERYTHING.

Great to see a reasonably fast and positive response from CCP. For all the bitching yesterday I feel encouraged by these statements.

To note on one point made in the dev blog:

- "When you use a shortcut to open a specific bay, it will open in GÇ£separatedGÇ¥ mode, with the tree view compact so you can quickly get the view you want."

Assuming that the re-opened view will open where it was before, i.e. my 'cargo hold view' will be where I last opened it by itself, items, ships etc.

If those windows that are open also remember their position upon logout,login then I think there'll be no issues at all for me.

You dont even have to hover over it for a long time. Just tried to drag and drop and it immediatley opened up the destination container. I then had to go back through the UI tree to try to find which corporation folder and then which container the items were in.

Rinse and repeat the above 3 times unitl I finally opened up the cargo of my ship draged items to there and then opened up the destination container and drag items to there.

Faster and easier to move items my AR$E..

Sigh........

There are two things we-¦d really like to change but don-¦t have a nailed down solution to just yet.

One is persisting windows that only work in certain places (you have a window that only works in the station and you want it to be open and in the same location the next time you dock for example).

Ok, the message is received but it doesn't mean I like it ... I for one don't like this at all!

I think the inventory is the single most used thing in the game for me.
I have never been made so aware of just how much I use it as right now.
Inventory has to be simple, fast and easy to use, this new version is nothing like that at all.

The inventory may be just a small thing, but this is really not the same game anymore ... very ... it reminds me more of work.
Assets has always been good at giving you an overview, but not the inventory.
Put it in the assets tab, that is where it belongs, and give us the old inventory back.

I suspect it's because the new system is more streamlined than the old one code-wise. A lot of CCP drive recently seems to have been to overhaul/rationalize their code - with the beneficial and forward-looking purpose of being more easily able to add and tweak stuff in the future.

But what they seem to have forgotten is that while that's a good idea, it's not a good idea to grossly alter the way lots of people do things in a functional sense. Tweaking a ship here and there, no problem - QQ is quite ignorable under those circumstances. Adapt and overcome.

But when you're talking about what is (as the Game of Drones devblog itself pointed out) one of the most-used-by-everybody systems in the game, such a ... cavalier ... attitude is unwise.

IOW, it might have been a good approach to look at what people were actually doing and to mimic that existing functionality with the newly-coded system out of the box, so that the transition was smoother for end users.

Still, it looks like CCP are taking the criticisms on board. But why didn't they take them on board when this stuff was on test?

We've been busy taking in feedback about the Unified Inventory and figuring out what to tackle first, and how. CCP Soundwave has put together a blog on the subject. Please read the blog here, and make sure you give us your feedback right here in the thread.

While rename everything is really something I like... I think what Silos and Reactors should have the type they're set up after the name. Something like "Silo (Tritanium)".

1. In order to keep the reactors and silos "organised" using the names, you'd have to rename the structure every time you change the content. While this is OK with single tower set up for a 4-5 days, it doesn't really work with 4 or more towers, where every day you're switching the reactions on at least one tower.

2. To keep the chaos to minimum, you will have to name the structures in a reasonable way. #1 .. #10 isn't different from Silo... Silo. So you'll in most cases use name that indicates whats in, like Trit, AG or Tech. And from the security point of view I think it's not good that everyone who warps to the POS can see that you're running two Platinum Technite reactions.

My only addition to this is that the "alt-C" (cargo hold) shortcut opened window needs to remember its size/position/settings based on the ship type which you were in when you opened it.

- Freighter? I probably have a large cargo hold window and seeing the # of items and value is useful to me.

- Interceptor? I use a tiny little window.

- Cap-boosted battleship? probably a mid-sized window so I can see how many cap charges and other goodies I have left

- Orca, in a mining fleet? Not only do I have the cargo hold open, but I also have the ore hold and one of the corp hangar windows open, ideally stacked in a tabbed method so I can drag-drop between those 3 locations quickly, while plucking ore out of jetcans

We've been busy taking in feedback about the Unified Inventory and figuring out what to tackle first, and how. CCP Soundwave has put together a blog on the subject. Please read the blog here, and make sure you give us your feedback right here in the thread.

You dont even have to hover over it for a long time. Just tried to drag and drop and it immediatley opened up the destination container. I then had to go back through the UI tree to try to find which corporation folder and then which container the items were in.

Rinse and repeat the above 3 times unitl I finally opened up the cargo of my ship draged items to there and then opened up the destination container and drag items to there.

Faster and easier to move items my AR$E..

Sigh........

You guys are the best. All concerns about the new UI addressed.

I still need to find an easy a way to show me how much ammo, cap boosters, boosters,, and other expendables I have in my cargo hold. It's way too difficult to sort through it all during a fight using the new inventory.

WORST F*CKING IDEA IN THE HISTORY OF POS IDEAS EVER CONCIEVED.

If they do this i'm so starting up a pos bashing corp to go start crashing peoples tech and neo moons without the need to scan LMFAO... warp on grid, look at name of the mods, ah tech, ya boys come on over this is the one we need to smash

Naming it yourself you can be smart about the naming conventions atleast and name it something your corp will know what it means but not joe shmoe in his cloaky

WORST F*CKING IDEA IN THE HISTORY OF POS IDEAS EVER CONCIEVED.

If they do this i'm so starting up a pos bashing corp to go start crashing peoples tech and neo moons without the need to scan LMFAO... warp on grid, look at name of the mods, ah tech, ya boys come on over this is the one we need to smash

Naming it yourself you can be smart about the naming conventions atleast and name it something your corp will know what it means but not joe shmoe in his cloaky

How about having the custom names only visible to corp/alliance members while everyone else sees just the pos module type?

If they do this i'm so starting up a pos bashing corp to go start crashing peoples tech and neo moons without the need to scan LMFAO... warp on grid, look at name of the mods, ah tech, ya boys come on over this is the one we need to smash

Well, maybe with the orca you can just use the tree instead of tabs.

+5 for CCP taking this seriously

+5 to Soundwave for being active participant in the dialogue on the thread so far... you sir have my respect.

Did you ever consider to actually document all those hidden short keys?

yeah great ...........read it.... great but.......the problem is...

how do i put this?..................WE DONT NEED THE NEW INVENTORY...... we will still have to open up stuff that was already open before the patch ffs.............. why arnt you guys listening to us players...

seriously ppl are going to stop playing the game if you guys at CCP dont start listening to us... i know of 4 ppl how have canceld there sub already and me and my 3 accounts makes that 7....... so sort it out an get rid of **** we dont want or need.....or give us an option in the esc menu to turn stuff off when you add something.................

Did anyone else notice that in the new window, the location where it says "index" without any function is like.. just a placeholder for the dropdown where you select which index configuration to use?

I dare you to even try bashing a Tech moon, last I checked it was entirely under the control of alliances with alot more supers you can dream of owning.

You won't even need to warp onto the grid, just get within a few AU and point your d-scan at it.

That being said - we've long wanted the ability to name ALL the arrays / batteries / labs. There's no reason not to allow us to name the modules.

Just like anything else (such as ship names) in EVE, the dumb will be dumb and you can't cure dumb. The smart folks will come up with various schemes (like naming silos after ponies) to disguise their purpose while still allowing you to keep track of which silo is which.

THIS IS FOR CCP GUARD.....

i hope you guys at CCP have read all the coments because i have and i reckon that about 85/90% of people dont want the new inventory system..............so ive got an idea for you


GET RID OF IT

hang on.. has a massive share holders son or daughter just got a job at ccp and they have come up with this stupid fantstic idea for a new inventory???????? is that why it must stay ??????? dont ya just love nepatism

You deleted my last post on this thread so I will try to word this nicely as I am getting very tired of dealing with anyone that works at CCP. With that being said, Everything that has to do with the new inventory overhaul makes doing anything whatsoever very tedious. What used to be easy is now more time consuming and harder to accomplish. Why did you not listen to the guys testing this out on SiSi? I figure actions speak louder than words. After you deleted my last forum post on this thread I unsubbed both of my accounts. I'm not paying for this aggravation. I figure actions speak louder than words. Maybe if everyone unsubbs they might begin to listen when you begin effecting their bottom line.

for the love that is all f*cking holy STOP ASKING FOR THEM TO ROLL BACK, they already said they aren't as honestly the # of pissed off people that are truly pissed off isnt that insanely large, people dislike it but its not game crushng...

They said they arent rolling back..

They said there going to work to bring back old functionality such as opening minimal shortcut windows like cargo etc...

They said they are open to new suggestions on improvements like the favoriting being pushed to top of tree...

I mean come on be f*cking constructive.

Tech refining moons aren't owned by said alliances, but would have silos in the suggested manner called "technitium" by the game which would make it a huge target... remember there are tech mining moons, and tech REACTION moons

so when you goin to get rid of the assets button and make it all one thing? it's nice what you've done and all but i kinda hoped since you were puttin everything in one place it'd all be in once place

yeah great ...........read it.... great but.......the problem is...

how do i put this?..................WE DONT NEED THE NEW INVENTORY...... we will still have to open up stuff that was already open before the patch ffs.............. why arnt you guys listening to us players...

seriously ppl are going to stop playing the game if you guys at CCP dont start listening to us... i know of 4 ppl how have canceld there sub already and me and my 3 accounts makes that 7....... so sort it out an get rid of **** we dont want or need.....or give us an option in the esc menu to turn stuff off when you add something.................

go cry in shower ;)

Stop already ranting about old system and you don't need new one. Just accept it. It's called modernization and it happens everywhere, not just in games. There were definitely some cumbersome issues with old system and most importantly, it was old unmaintable code, so rather than making patches over patches, it's better to write new thing, that can be customized and made right for your hearts....

Hmm, modernization .. reminds me of when MS introduced that freaking ribbon in office...
I'm not using said office pack anymore, I found another product that fit my needs better!
Plenty of other, sometimes even free, software out there - that goes for games too

When you have selected a mix of ships and items in your cargohold and attempt to drag them to your hangar, EvE will no longer quietly sort them into the ships and items hangars, respectively. Instead it will do....

nothing. Everything stays in place and deselects.

Stop already ranting about old system and you don't need new one. Just accept it. It's called modernization and it happens everywhere, not just in games.

(I've wanted to do this since forever, so getting to sneak this in makes me super happy )

The other is some sort of visualization of your ship in the inventory.

so when you goin to get rid of the assets button and make it all one thing? it's nice what you've done and all but i kinda hoped since you were puttin everything in one place it'd all be in once place

One is persisting windows that only work in certain places (you have a window that only works in the station and you want it to be open and in the same location the next time you dock for example).