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Proton Power Amarr Luck Yourself Into Isk	Posted - 2009.11.08 04:50:00 - [1021] Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155 Originally by: Proton Power Look how I got dragged into this one tbh, All i did was offer to buyback some isk at 30% didnt say anyting bad, they come in attack then I do the same. Its stupid on both parts tbh. My argument is they started it lol. Agree the deadline is well past deadline lol You posting in an EBANK thread always ****es me off, in this case its because you think something would have happened to your account because of how you acted in the past. Funny that you are blameless again. What would you like me to take the blame for? I didn't try and hold the information about ricdic back soon as I found out. Sorry I thought MD should know? Lets go back in time to when I was in Ebank, my biggest complaint is what helped bring this entire thing down, people being inactive. Now were did I fault in Ebank, well I helped the cause of less accounting with TXD, I don't deney that one bit, nor have I. What else do you want me to take the blame for, I will let you know if I will do so.
Phoebe Halliwel	Posted - 2009.11.08 04:52:00 - [1022] Originally by: SetrakDark Originally by: Phoebe Halliwel Why has a deadline been set and missed and people are still kissing Ray's backside? Show me where this happened. I haven't seen a single positive post since the deadline was missed. Sorry, to be more concise, "where are the aluminium baseball bats"? You've had a week to whip em out, why am I the one pointing out Ray is active in game whilst AC deflects the aggro with his usual tact and charm? The silence is surprising. Ray is likeable from his forum posts, I dunno about in-game or RL. Well established player, good "reputation", the saviour of ebank and all that, but he made a promise, then wandered off. Where is the lynch mob? Cowering in a corner somewhere? Or toying with easier targets, working out whether they re credible enough to attack full on? Lol it's so easy to play with new ppl in MD but a damn sight harder to call out those with "rep" (/spits). Conflict of interest indeed.
Amarr Citizen 155 Tleilex Developments Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2009.11.08 04:53:00 - [1023] Originally by: Proton Power Anyway half the bank employee's think you should STFU on these forums as well. Your making things much worse, from giving hte middle finger after the deadline was over do to now. Which half would that be? The half that was around before during and after the ** hit the fan or the half that wasn't? /middle finger again How much isk did you lose in all this anyways? I seriously doubt it was more than me, maybe that's why I'm ed... because I too lost a load of isk just like some people. The difference is that I'll never get mine back and when ebank recovers the depositors will get theirs back. You always assume you know all the details and that's what **es me off about you. Titan BPC Auction Thread
Proton Power Amarr Luck Yourself Into Isk	Posted - 2009.11.08 04:58:00 - [1024] Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155 Originally by: Proton Power Anyway half the bank employee's think you should STFU on these forums as well. Your making things much worse, from giving hte middle finger after the deadline was over do to now. Which half would that be? The half that was around before during and after the ** hit the fan or the half that wasn't? /middle finger again How much isk did you lose in all this anyways? I seriously doubt it was more than me, maybe that's why I'm ed... because I too lost a load of isk just like some people. The difference is that I'll never get mine back and when ebank recovers the depositors will get theirs back. You always assume you know all the details and that's what es me off about you. Didnt claim to know all the details. Please point me to any post that says differant that I know every detail of Ebank. Both are still part of Ebank currently that I know of. Don't know how much I lost tbh, maybe a mil or two, so yes you probably lost more. But how does that change anything? Atleast you know whats up your customers that have lost MORE isk than you still don't know a thing because your a week past the deadline now, which was created by EBANK not the customers. I felt the initial deadline was to long, asked how I could help and was told to F' off by Ray, so can't say I didnt try to help. So far I ** you off cause I am a knight on a white horse or some crap like that and now because I know all details. Whats next?
Amarr Citizen 155 Tleilex Developments Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2009.11.08 05:02:00 - [1025] Edited by: Amarr Citizen 155 on 08/11/2009 05:04:38 Originally by: Phoebe Halliwel The silence is surprising. Ray is likeable from his forum posts, I dunno about in-game or RL. Well established player, good "reputation", the saviour of ebank and all that, but he made a promise, then wandered off. Where is the lynch mob? Cowering in a corner somewhere? Or toying with easier targets, working out whether they re credible enough to attack full on? Lol it's so easy to play with new ppl in MD but a damn sight harder to call out those with "rep" (/spits). Conflict of interest indeed. I believe Ray is asleep, most of the time when he's awake I'm asleep or at work and when I'm online he's asleep. And when I'm drinking, he's no where to be found..... and right now he's no where to be found (Because he's asleep and I'm drinking). Edit: I guess there's a few reasons you **** me off PP, my bad there. Also, unless they lost more than 15-20b then they come up a bit short. Titan BPC Auction Thread
Proton Power Amarr Luck Yourself Into Isk	Posted - 2009.11.08 05:05:00 - [1026] Originally by: Lady Centrina My point in regards to Proton's post is that maybe even he is being used and doesn't realize it. I remember Proton's stellar record dating back to at least 2007 while he was running one of the first truly successful public businesses. I know that Proton served in the military, don't know if he is still active, but having known a lot of military folks I can say that 99% of them are trustworthy and don't just screw with people in real life or in a game. My concern is that Ray has taken on more than he can chew, EBANK is FUBAR, and if you don't know what that means then you need a little education on the side. I just wish we could get some answer, and for AC and PP, at this point you are getting drug through the mud for a mess that isn't your doing, I for one would let someone else take the brunt of this. Thanks mate, yes I am still Active Duty. Per the Ray taking on more than he can chew, my honest opinion is everyone will end up with all there isk back much shorter than you all think. Per me and AC, the person that gets the brunt of this is actually ricdic. We all know he is the main person to blame, then anyone who was suppose to be auditing all this garbage to make sure profits were being made. Me and AC both take this personally because we were actually decent friends prior to this. I still don't have many hard feelings towards him other than the one day he bothered me after I asked him not to do so. But he was not the only one, so really try not to hold that against him.
Phoebe Halliwel	Posted - 2009.11.08 05:05:00 - [1027] Originally by: SetrakDark Originally by: Phoebe Halliwel "where are the aluminium baseball bats"? ...that's the big support/defence? Are you joking? ...ya, I don't even know what to say here. Since Ray has taken over the whole of MD has allowed him to dicate when information is released. I'm really surprised you are missing this. Yes, more rabble, yes more noise. Do you seriously think it takes this long to do a retrospective analysis of financial records? Look at the date Ray took over Chairmanship at Ebank. Look at the resignations, inactivity from various people. Sackings have clearly been made but not officially documented. Look at the timing between Ebank "official" statements to MD. Look at the gap between the account freeze, the statement blatantly named "Ebank Scandal", look at the promise made for an update, then broken. MD is either being manipulated or Ebank is staffed by morons. Which do you think is the case?
SetrakDark Caldari DarkCorp Technology and Finance	Posted - 2009.11.08 05:15:00 - [1028] Originally by: Phoebe Halliwel Why has a deadline been set and missed and people are still kissing Ray's backside? I asked you to show me where. You can't. Now you're deflecting with a bunch of irrelevant stuff. Unless you can show me where, don't bother responding anymore because I don't care.
Frenden Dax Dax Acquisitions	Posted - 2009.11.08 05:16:00 - [1029] Originally by: Phoebe Halliwel Since Ray has taken over the whole of MD has allowed him to dicate when information is released. Yes, I agree. We should compel Ray to release information instead, preferably by beating him with the aforementioned aluminum baseball bats until he talks. Be rational here, updates will come when Ray makes them. Yes, he's busted his self-imposed deadline by about a week now, boo hoo. Are the whole MD 'allowing' him to do this? MD's denizens actually have, brace yourself, no control whatsoever over what he does. It would be nice if someone from EBANK posted in this thread with a reason for the delay thoug--- oh wait AC already did. Stop causing drama, good lord. Originally by: Karanth Or, in other words, random people can't usurp rights from government because they are insane/bitter/vengeful/made of potato salad.
Gabriel Virtus hirr	Posted - 2009.11.08 05:24:00 - [1030] I think EBank should endorse its current employees and bod members to buy up deposits. There is no sort of conflicts of interests at all. This would definitely be an entirely moral and fair thing to do. I endorse this practice and am glad to see AC155, the pillar of morality and credibility that he is, to continue. Flame on -GV
Phoebe Halliwel	Posted - 2009.11.08 05:30:00 - [1031] Originally by: Frenden Dax Originally by: Phoebe Halliwel Since Ray has taken over the whole of MD has allowed him to dicate when information is released. Yes, I agree. We should compel Ray to release information instead, preferably by beating him with the aforementioned aluminum baseball bats until he talks. Be rational here, updates will come when Ray makes them. Yes, he's busted his self-imposed deadline by about a week now, boo hoo. Are the whole MD 'allowing' him to do this? MD's denizens actually have, brace yourself, no control whatsoever over what he does. It would be nice if someone from EBANK posted in this thread with a reason for the delay thoug--- oh wait AC already did. Stop causing drama, good lord. You missed my point. Anyone else defaulting on a significant deadline in MD would be torn to shreds rapidly within days, if not hours. Given the size of this the forum warriors should have been at full crack... but wait, "conflict of interest" anyone? Does it hurt their interests to push this? Could it damage their reputations if they go full crack at Ray personally? It's hardly a drama, I simply find the hypocracy hilarious. But carry on playing with Ray, because it's blatantly obvious, he is playing, and MD are participating quite willingly, well played to him indeed that he has this measure of control. /gn
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Dark-Rising IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.11.08 13:25:00 - [1032] Quote: If some of the current BoD or current staff have an issue with me on here they can feel free to let me know rather than doing what they did when Ricdic was running the bank into the ground..... nothing at all. It's called "tecnique of the rubber wall". That is stand impassible till people get bored and leave. This worked very well in RL in some very muddy affair called "Ustica Massacre", as it managed to keep many people out of jail. Quote: MD is either being manipulated or Ebank is staffed by morons. Which do you think is the case? MD is being manipulated, but not by morons. - Auditing and consulting Before asking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h and http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Roguehalo	Posted - 2009.11.08 14:36:00 - [1033] I've never been any great fan of Ebank........particularly when Ricpric was running it. However I think that Ray is probably making honest efforts to salvage as much as possible from the wreckage. Salvage operations are probably being hindered by the upcoming patch induced downturn and I suspect that when the 'announcement' does come it will only be a holding announcement since the best time to liquidate Ebank will be during the post patch boom. tl,dr It's gonna take time....be patient
FlameWarrior Gallente Hall Of Flame H Y E N A	Posted - 2009.11.08 17:53:00 - [1034] Amarr Citizen 155, I just wanted to know is it even possible to take out a loan of 1.3billion ? so i can continue to run my business~ ? Yoyo !LOTTERY MAN IS HERE !
Dzil Caldari United Kings Holdings	Posted - 2009.11.08 18:51:00 - [1035] Originally by: Roguehalo I've never been any great fan of Ebank........particularly when Ricpric was running it. However I think that Ray is probably making honest efforts to salvage as much as possible from the wreckage. Salvage operations are probably being hindered by the upcoming patch induced downturn and I suspect that when the 'announcement' does come it will only be a holding announcement since the best time to liquidate Ebank will be during the post patch boom. tl,dr It's gonna take time....be patient Aye, but that's just it. Those that are contemplating the "less, but immediate" cash out option would probably like to ride the tide of the patch too. Not let ebank take credit for it while making less money using its interest free loan. Dzil's Corp Sales - 200m
cosmoray Bella Vista Holdings Corp	Posted - 2009.11.08 21:47:00 - [1036] Originally by: SetrakDark Originally by: Phoebe Halliwel Why has a deadline been set and missed and people are still kissing Ray's backside? I asked you to show me where. You can't. Now you're deflecting with a bunch of irrelevant stuff. Unless you can show me where, don't bother responding anymore because I don't care. Please look at the title of this whole post: "Next announcement October 15th - Nov 1st, wait patiently or whine in here" or something like that. Then AC stated on this post that there will be a slight delay because more stuff is coming out of the audit. Just sit back and wait for the announcement. I would rather see a post with ALL the facts than a half hearted stab that keeps a few people happy.
Kalrand Charles Ponzi School of Business GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.11.08 22:09:00 - [1037] Originally by: cosmoray Just sit back and wait for the announcement. I would rather see a post with ALL the facts than a half hearted stab that keeps a few people happy. I doubt your going to get anything with all the facts here.
SetrakDark Caldari DarkCorp Technology and Finance	Posted - 2009.11.08 23:41:00 - [1038] Originally by: cosmoray Please look at the title of this whole post: "Next announcement October 15th - Nov 1st, wait patiently or whine in here" or something like that. Then AC stated on this post that there will be a slight delay because more stuff is coming out of the audit. Just sit back and wait for the announcement. I would rather see a post with ALL the facts than a half hearted stab that keeps a few people happy. Not sure who you're responding to here...If it's me, I was asking to see where people were "kissing Ray's ass" after the deadline, not whether there was a deadline or not.
Ji Sama Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2009.11.09 00:16:00 - [1039] I think Ray is the best, and i support EBNKA
Kwint Sommer Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.11.09 05:23:00 - [1040] Rabble, Rabble, Rabble! I can appreciate wanting to delay a day or two but it's now more than a week late. At a certain point you have accept that any report is better than no report and put what you have out there. Anyways, it's not like you have to worry about "investor" confidence; the sum-total of their power is to whine really loud. Speaking of which, Rabble! Rabble! Rabble!
Katiana Swan	Posted - 2009.11.09 05:46:00 - [1041] Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155 Edited by: Amarr Citizen 155 on 08/11/2009 05:04:38 Originally by: Phoebe Halliwel The silence is surprising. Ray is likeable from his forum posts, I dunno about in-game or RL. Well established player, good "reputation", the saviour of ebank and all that, but he made a promise, then wandered off. Where is the lynch mob? Cowering in a corner somewhere? Or toying with easier targets, working out whether they re credible enough to attack full on? Lol it's so easy to play with new ppl in MD but a damn sight harder to call out those with "rep" (/spits). Conflict of interest indeed. I believe Ray is asleep, most of the time when he's awake I'm asleep or at work and when I'm online he's asleep. And when I'm drinking, he's no where to be found..... and right now he's no where to be found (Because he's asleep and I'm drinking). Edit: I guess there's a few reasons you ** me off PP, my bad there. Also, unless they lost more than 15-20b then they come up a bit short. Does this indicate there is nothing on your internal forums about this whole issue? Ray hasn't been around in a good week and you seem to have no idea about anything. Is there actually any form of report or documentation planned or was this delay a way to launder funds before people caught on? Is there someone else working for EBANK who has a clue about Public Relations or who doesn't show contempt towards it's customers who can post here instead of you? Seems strange that all of EBANK staff have suddenly vanished except you. Finally, were you a director while Ricdic was CEO? If so, wouldn't you be just as responsible for the failings of EBANK than the rest of the staff you were quick to slag off as per: Quote:** If some of the current BoD or current staff have an issue with me on here they can feel free to let me know rather than doing what they did when Ricdic was running the bank into the ground..... nothing at all. In this quote you clearly say Board or Staff, so were you referring to yourself as well? If not, who specifically were you referring too?
Lui Kai Better Than You	Posted - 2009.11.09 06:14:00 - [1042] Originally by: Phoebe Halliwel Anyone else defaulting on a significant deadline in MD would be torn to shreds rapidly within days, if not hours. Given the size of this the forum warriors should have been at full crack... but wait, "conflict of interest" anyone? Does it hurt their interests to push this? Could it damage their reputations if they go full crack at Ray personally? It's hardly a drama, I simply find the hypocracy hilarious. But carry on playing with Ray, because it's blatantly obvious, he is playing, and MD are participating quite willingly, well played to him indeed that he has this measure of control. /gn Everyone hits a point where they write such things off and move on in their lives. Most have hit this point a while back. Congratulations for being among the most petulant in a forum famous for it's asshattery and internet-lawyering. ----------------
Kylar Renpurs Dusk Blade	Posted - 2009.11.09 07:12:00 - [1043] Quote: Everyone hits a point where they write such things off and move on in their lives. Most have hit this point a while back. This. Personally EBank stopped being relevant to me when Ricdic basically said he'd taken RL securities on ISK loans which he'd reinvest as GTC if anyone defaulted on loans, which basically surmounts to RMT (in my subjective opinion of course) EBank's current staff and people who deposited into EBank still hoping for their ISK back are just vultures picking over a dead body (once again, my subjective opinion)
Claire Voyant	Posted - 2009.11.09 13:26:00 - [1044] Originally by: Gabriel Virtus I think EBank should endorse its current employees and bod members to buy up deposits. There is no sort of conflicts of interests at all. This would definitely be an entirely moral and fair thing to do. I endorse this practice and am glad to see AC155, the pillar of morality and integrity that he is, to continue it. While this sounds like a good idea, it is very important that they release information about their current financial situation BEFORE they start buying back deposits. Bank insiders buying back deposits based on non-public information is a very, very bad idea.
Ji Sama Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll	Posted - 2009.11.09 13:39:00 - [1045] Originally by: Kwint Sommer Rabble, Rabble, Rabble! I can appreciate wanting to delay a day or two but it's now more than a week late. At a certain point you have accept that any report is better than no report and put what you have out there. Anyways, it's not like you have to worry about "investor" confidence; the sum-total of their power is to whine really loud. Speaking of which, Rabble! Rabble! Rabble! I agree, there should have been an announcement from ray. But tbh, i think they rushed this audit a bit, no way it can be done so fast, unless you make it a fulltime job. All we can do is being patient, i am personally looking forward to buying up cheap EBANK isk :D
Amarr Citizen 155 Tleilex Developments Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2009.11.09 16:30:00 - [1046] Originally by: Katiana Swan Does this indicate there is nothing on your internal forums about this whole issue? No it doesn't indicate that, there is a lot going on about this on our internal form.....but it's internal. Originally by: Katiana Swan Ray hasn't been around in a good week and you seem to have no idea about anything. Ray has been around a lot, he just hasn't been around this thread. There are two types of fun to be had in regards to this thread, posting in it and stirring the pot or avoiding it and letting the pot stir itself. And its not that I don't know anything, its that I'm not telling you. Originally by: Katiana Swan Is there actually any form of report or documentation planned or was this delay a way to launder funds before people caught on? Yes there is a document that will be posted soon, although I could just be telling you that to buy more time for my ebil plan... Originally by: Katiana Swan Is there someone else working for EBANK who has a clue about Public Relations or who doesn't show contempt towards it's customers who can post here instead of you? Nope, there used to be but he left. You might remember him and the way he ran things...his name was Ricdic. Forgive me if I don't do things the same way he did. Originally by: Katiana Swan Seems strange that all of EBANK staff have suddenly vanished except you. Dun, Dun, Dun! And me holding this bloody axe.....no not really. Originally by: Katiana Swan Finally, were you a director while Ricdic was CEO? If so, wouldn't you be just as responsible for the failings of EBANK than the rest of the staff you were quick to slag off as per There is a really good story here that most of you will never know, but it involves me doing something good that I don't mind not getting credit for. To answer your question, I became a director at the end of the Ricdic era and only had the pleasure of being involved in the wave splashing on the beach rather than riding the wave at it's highest point. Titan BPC Auction Thread
Kim McCormack Minmatar	Posted - 2009.11.09 16:45:00 - [1047] Hello everybody. The announcement will be made when it is ready.
Ray McCormack Kisoken Innovations	Posted - 2009.11.09 16:53:00 - [1048] Originally by: Phoebe Halliwel I've seen Ricdic called a "turd" by Ray (which is warranted currently, but not historically - Ricdic was the first to question Ionia holding so much public funds and Ray was the quickest to defend). I think you've got this wrong, I don't recall defending Ionia. What I do recall is Ric making **** up by guessing at what Ionia had held in public ISK, a figure he pulled out of his arse. I called him on it, as it was completely off base. Is that perhaps the occasion you're thinking of? Titan BPC Auction \| Some people call me the space cowboy, yeah
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Dark-Rising IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.11.09 17:38:00 - [1049] And now the one important question for this thread: is Kim McCormack Ray's missus or gf (roleplayed of course)? - Auditing and consulting Before asking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h and http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Ray McCormack Kisoken Innovations	Posted - 2009.11.09 17:44:00 - [1050] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha And now the one important question for this thread: is Kim McCormack Ray's missus or gf (roleplayed of course)? She's my slave you sick son of a *****! Titan BPC Auction \| Some people call me the space cowboy, yeah

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