Swap that around and some of us would be happy. Why does this abominiation of a UI try to take control of everything I do unless I hold up the holy cross (shift key)?

Pretty much this. It's the exact same functionality as before, except you hold down shift if you want it in a separate window as oppose to using the tree view.

Fair enough. My specific troubles are that the corp hangar does not open in a tabbed hangar view exactly like the old one with a single click of a single button. I should not have to spin my chair and hold keys down to get what I had before with a simple single click.

The default behaviour is now to use the tree view. For people that are not a fan of this, shift click is implemented to enable them to use separate windows. If you like I will ask the team if mapping these as shortcuts that individual users can customise is an option? (Note, even if this is possible, it will not change the default behaviour)

Except Shift-clicking on a pos array structure, either visually or from the overview does nothing. Shift-double-click causes you to approach the array only. Shift-click (and shift-dbl-click) from the tree on an array either expands or collapses the divisions.

Only way I have found to open multiple inventory windows is to shift-double-click cans I carry in my cargobay. So I get an inventory window for my ship caargo, and then one for each can. Then I have to keep the damn tree active (or expand it out each time) on each one so i can change divisions as I move minz, etc around between arrays to run jobs. I generally have a minimum of 4 windows open at one time when sitting at my tower doing work.

This UI has made working at a pos an absolute PITA.

Until you get a line in the drop down saying this 50% of the eve population will not know about it. The want a right click option to open a secondary window.

The default behaviour is now to use the tree view. For people that are not a fan of this, shift click is implemented to enable them to use separate windows. If you like I will ask the team if mapping these as shortcuts that individual users can customise is an option? (Note, even if this is possible, it will not change the default behaviour)

And you just pointed out the biggest problem with the whole mess. Thank you.

The default behaviour is now to use the tree view. For people that are not a fan of this, shift click is implemented to enable them to use separate windows. If you like I will ask the team if mapping these as shortcuts that individual users can customise is an option? (Note, even if this is possible, it will not change the default behaviour)

Well, I would argue that it does, it's just that the tabs are now to the left of the window rather than at the top of the window. Would I be fair in saying that? Yes, it's not exactly the same, but surely we can compromise here in that the functionality has been retained.

Well, I would argue that it does, it's just that the tabs are now to the left of the window rather than at the top of the window. Would I be fair in saying that? Yes, it's not exactly the same, but surely we can compromise here in that the functionality has been retained.

CCP Goliath, you want to make a hundred thousand-- or more-- Eve users happy? Make an option to reverse SHIFT CLICK and CLICK. This *should* get the functionality of the old Inventory back to normal, assuming you get all the presistence problems worked out.

Of course, I think this entire UI nonsense is only to let the soon-to-come masses of Dust bunnies be comfortable with what they already know-- Windows Explorer. Damned be the old users of Eve.

Which I assume you mean to be that you do not want to use the tree view at all on basic principle? The team are doing everything they can to make this of minimal impact to you, but the tree view itself is not going anywhere so I hope that you can come to terms with it in some way.

You're wrong about DUST, but we do think the new system is more intuitive or user-friendly to newer players yes. FYI when you said make an option to reverse shift click and click, that is exactly what I was referring to when I said " If you like I will ask the team if mapping these as shortcuts that individual users can customise is an option?"

You can say whatever you want. Nothing changes the fact that it's harder now. It's more clicks now. It's not intuitive. For God's sake it even requires keyboard input now to do things that before were a single left click of the mouse. If I only open one inventory window a day I could live with that. Multiply it a thousand fold and bask in the glow of the worst UI in the universe.

We're now getting into opinion, but as I say, I will ask the team if rebinding the shift click to be normal click as a shortcut option (note - not default behaviour) is possible.

That's all for me this evening folks. Fly safe.

Which I assume you mean to be that you do not want to use the tree view at all on basic principle? The team are doing everything they can to make this of minimal impact to you, but the tree view itself is not going anywhere so I hope that you can come to terms with it in some way.

I might be reading this wrong, but I don't see why you aren't using the tree view for this - it gives you the same functionality as before, but in one window (or 4 if you prefer one for each hangar) and you just 1 click to each division.

you wnat me to pick 4 corp hangers out of 10 and find 28 hangers of that 8 using a list. are you smoking crack?. go try it and come back to me

You can say whatever you want. Nothing changes the fact that it's harder now. It's more clicks now. It's not intuitive. For God's sake it even requires keyboard input now to do things that before were a single left click of the mouse. If I only open one inventory window a day I could live with that. Multiply it a thousand fold and bask in the glow of the worst UI in the universe.

They either choose not to see it or don't see it, perhaps there is too much sand in the sandbox and they have their heads buried in it?

you wnat me to pick 4 corp hangers out of 10 and find 28 divisions of the 70 using a list. are you smoking crack?. go try it and come back to me.

Spot on!

Shift click the overview - opens in new window. You have the option to stack or handle new windows and the game will remember this by type (e.g. wreck, cargo container). Also in tree view, if you open them all, you can just rattle Loot All til they're all gone.

Shift click the overview - opens in new window. You have the option to stack or handle new windows and the game will remember this by type (e.g. wreck, cargo container). Also in tree view, if you open them all, you can just rattle Loot All til they're all gone.

Shift click the overview - opens in new window. You have the option to stack or handle new windows and the game will remember this by type (e.g. wreck, cargo container). Also in tree view, if you open them all, you can just rattle Loot All til they're all gone.

CCP Goliath,

Can you guys set the "open" button at the top of the overview to shift-doubleclick as its default action?

At minimum, it would give players a one-click, treeless workaround for opening wrecks in a new window.

That's how they opened before.

YK