We will look into this behavior, the assumption was that players that only loot one wreck at a time would want to see that it went into the Cargo hold once the 'Loot All' button was pressed. But if the Ship's Cargo hold is empty however, we have now observed users thinking nothing happened because they see no change in the content area of the Inventory window and sometimes they might not notice the focus change in the Index tree, or simply have the Index tree minimized, so this needs addressing I agree. The action should simply close the cargo window once the cargo container is empty, if the user opened a cargo container directly (as a secondary inventory window).

The only question that remains is, if a user opens up the Inventory from the Neocom, and is using the Index tree, will he also want that window to close when he has pressed 'Loot all' on the last wreck in the index tree?

Is it possible to base the behavior on whether or not the index tree is expanded? For example, if it's minimized (like when you're looting in space), the button text changes to "Loot / Close." This would allow you to solve both scenarios while being clear on function.

Thanks everyone for your feedback regarding the Shift discussion. As pointed out here, there already is a setting in the Esc Menu related to reverting Shift behavior, so it might make sense to have this behavior tied with that setting. Hopefully those that already use that setting will also want the Inventory Shift function to be reverted.



Interesting point, this would solve it very gracefully. I have added it to our Iteration plan, thank you.

Thanks everyone for your feedback regarding the Shift discussion. As pointed out here, there already is a setting in the Esc Menu related to reverting Shift behavior, so it might make sense to have this behavior tied with that setting. Hopefully those that already use that setting will also want the Inventory Shift function to be reverted.



Interesting point, this would solve it very gracefully. I have added it to our Iteration plan, thank you.

[...] because I at least have been making some changes to saved fittings).

Oh God! are the saved-fittings changes coming in this patch?
I love you.
I love you sooooo much!

Any chance the load-saved-fittings bugs have been fixed too?
When modules or drones glitch during fitting-loading it is ever so irritating.

I hope you do not mean the GÇ£Merge GÇ£ItemsGÇ¥ and GÇ£ShipsGÇ¥ into station panelGÇ¥ checkbox on the General Settings Tab of the ESC Menu.

Ha ha. This is like... Unified Everything.

Index > Space > Ships > Current Ship > Modules > High Slots > Weapons > Large Mega Pulse Laser > Action > Fire (Your capacitor is empty)?

No, it's this one:

ESC Menu under "General Settings - Windows"
"Try to Use Existing Info Window if Any (Except if Shift is Pressed)"

We would need to change the description for the setting toggle though, to describe better what it's doing regarding Shift click.

Something along the line of:
"Require SHIFT be pressed to open a new window (applies to Show Info and Inventory folders)"

No, it's this one:

ESC Menu under "General Settings - Windows"
"Try to Use Existing Info Window if Any (Except if Shift is Pressed)"

We would need to change the description for the setting toggle though, to describe better what it's doing regarding Shift click.

Something along the line of:
"Require SHIFT be pressed to open a new window (applies to Show Info and Inventory folders)"

The broader solution to all this is for people to stop imagining they have a perfect grasp of the minutate [sic] of EVE development and holding individual developers personally accountable for development decisions and outcomes. Nobody, from Hellmar and Unifex down, gets to make decisions completely unilaterally...

Otherwise, as things stand, there hardly ever will be a sane reason to use a Hulk, given the advantages the Mackinaw has over the Hulk.

you're doing it again. You're breaking existing functionality for no good reason.

do you think I should write a micro dev blog on it next week when I get back from vacation so everybody notices?

Something that might improve communication is more micro-devblogs. A lot of forum rage could be prevented with this. Even a locked thread saying "No, we haven't forgotten about x" every now and then would help. I think a lot of recent Unified Inventory rage came from the fact that dev blogs were being pushed on it, then suddenly they just stopped. In other words, yes, publish it!

I notice Team Avatar are still waiting for theirs to be approved by CCP Unifex. Granted, vacations/sickness will slow things down, but wouldn't it be better if approval was only required by team leads (assuming that's not how it's done currently)?

Some good things, with asterisks!

Isn't this just extending what that option applies to? What does it break?

The way a miner friend of mine put it, the Hulk becomes worse for solo mining but better for fleet mining.

Do you use your show-info windows the same way you use inventory windows?

I have filed a defect on this after talking with CCP Arrow

yes they are!
do you think I should write a micro dev blog on it next week when I get back from vacation so everybody notices?

I don't know what but you're talking about, unfortunately, but I can take a look on Monday if there's already a bug report on it?

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Are all the bugs with T3s and saved fits with different subsystems fixed? Thats just soooo broken atm.

I don't know which bugs you are talking about either.. maybe you can give me a better description of what's broken and then I can look into it on Monday and see if it's been bug reported and/or fixed yet

(I've been on vacation for 4 weeks so I don't know what's been happening at the office for a while)