Nah. It's getting a free MSEII and an 800-plate. The miners will happily forego the opportunity to make use of and enhance these protective measures, just like they do now. Then they'll complain that they still manage to get themselves blown up by destroyers and demand that they be able to fit LSEs and 1600s.

I'm calling it GÇ£not significantGÇ¥ because it's just ~3-4k EHP more, which is easy to compensate for and because it will only really help those who already are safe.

, Punkturis said something like "people are afraid of change, that'll go away once people get used to the changes."

The new UI broke all my bots and now I have a sad

Believe it or not, but we are people just like you.

Please quit it. Already.

I'd like to point the devs (again) to these wonderful suggestions from he community:

Dual pane inventory FTW! http://i.imgur.com/j8Jyn.jpg
A good list of stuff https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1239629#post1239629

Something unrelated to the UI for a change
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1649019#post1649019

And the commend about angel cow ships... Awesome.!

Maybe it's time for some extra love on the UI again.

CCP, why does everyone want miners to pvp?

No one has told them, that yes combat ships do fit tanks, but they can also have great dps at the same time. They never have to sacrfice dps for tank. (Though armor does have to sacrifice speed for tank, and they do complain about that.)

You guys seem to not mind people getting angry at you.

The old inventory system kept me from having to open 10 different windows. At no point would I ever need (or even be able to, without additional work) to open more than four. The new UI forces me to open more windows than ever. I suppose I could contain it in one window, but that would make it four times slower (excluding UI lag) than before.

Either way, not enjoyable.

The fix that made some (but not all) windows remember (some of) their status fixed (some of) the annoyances, but still requires a ton of setup to make work and I dread the day a mistake or a patch resets the window settings. In a funny twist of irony, the new main UI window is now the one that is the least reliable in this regard. The old way where all windows remembered all of their status without any of the annoyances was still preferable.

CCP, why does everyone want miners to pvp?
No one has told them, that yes combat ships do fit tanks, but they can also have great dps at the same time. They never have to sacrfice dps for tank. (Though armor does have to sacrifice speed for tank, and they do complain about that.)

Why sooo black? I'm tired of seeing all my favorite ships getting re-textured to look like they were drug through poo or dipped in old motor oil.

Seems to me that people don't know you can drag items from one inventory location to another inventory location through the inventory tree (just drop it on the name of the location you want your items to go).

I don't see a reason to have more than one window open at a time.

heh you're actually wrong here because combat ships do have to pick some balance between damage and tank

what you want is a max-yield hulk with 80k ehp

Obviously you haven't used this window while in a POS while trying to move cargo from your orca into a hanger. Or from a container to some other location. I can't always expand my tree view large enough to see both source and target.

Another annoyance is to undock from a station without closing your cargo view and the hanger items view, then redock only to find both windows open and showing your cargo contents. I hate trying to drag and drop nothing a few times before I realize what is going on.

I really like the direction they seem to be heading with the changes to the mining vessels. Each one, whether tech1 or t2 will have a clearly defined role. They all become useful, not just 2 ships out of 6.

I have no excitement for the new shader models since I can't really see much anhow. Too dark. Just like real space I suppose.

Also we would like to draw your attention to the new video V3 shader for Angel ships here.

Most devs at CCP read the forums very actively and diligently, and incorporate the feedback in their work. But some are not responding as actively on the forums (or on Twitter) because they are not willing to endure at times the kind of beating CCP Punkturis has been subject to here.

Don't quote out of context, don't assume that dev X has worked on feature Y, don't resort to personal attacks, be nice. Believe it or not, but we are people just like you.

Could you please let us know what is happening to the crimewatch changes? Have they been scrapped , withheld again?


Any update would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

I was sort of making a joke of the first person who mentioned me that only quoted half of what I said in the interview.. I also made sure to make it really obvious that I was just quoting part of what he said (by cutting on a ( and pretty much mentioning it)

I'd call a 50% increase in overall hitpoints (an 80% increase in shield HP) pretty significant. You're talking about /14k EHP/ with all 5s and no hardeners.

Huh? Every slot that is used for tank reduces DPS, especially low and rig slots. Eg. a DCU takes up a slot that could be given to a Magstab, the same thing goes for plates and other armor modules.

Finding the right balance between DPS and tank is an important part of fitting a PvP ship, just as finding the right balance between x and tank is an important part of pretty much every other ship in EVE (like haulers with cargo space, mining ships with mining yield etc.).

The broader solution to all this is for people to stop imagining they have a perfect grasp of the minutate of EVE development and holding individual developers personally accountable for development decisions and outcomes. Nobody, from Hellmar and Unifex down, gets to make decisions completely unilaterally, and nobody ever hits a "perfect game" and gets to ship a feature that turns out exactly the way they wanted it to. Making an MMO is a very complex operation with lots of moving parts that have to mesh together very tightly - everything has to be done as a team, and it's never as straightforward as you'd like to hope.

Right. So we are not to ask questions or provide feedback to devs that do not work on a particular issue.

We are also not allowed to make any assumptions about which devs are working on a particular issue, and CCP is generally less than transparent on these issues. (see quote)

Message received loud and clear: "We do not want any questions and feedback, unless it is praise".

It sure fits with the last couple of months experience..




(Except for CCP karkur. She does an awesome job, both with features and communication)

Go look up "accountable" in the dictionary and then re-read my post with your new-found knowledge (paying attention to the words "individual" and "personally" in the context given).

If Punkturis actually said that I have lost all respect for her. Such flippant remarks is what boiled the customers over last summer.

The UI system was not change, it was terribly stupid change. I'd like to know who's merit bonus is swinging on the UI introduction, cause they must have incredible pull to keep it going even though it has been proven beyond a doubt to be a BAD change.

edit: And what's stupid funny about this - they still can't get the Jump Freighter fuel bay to work correctly. Apparently it can't do math if you try to put too much fuel in. Lame.

I know what accounable mean. Do you know what "question" and "feedback" means?

You seem to view us as you enemies, out to get your head. I don't want to hurt CCP, or any of its staff, I want to help to make the game better. To do this, we provide feedback on features and procedures. We also ask questions, to see if our feedback have been understood, agreed with or disagred with, or wheather features/fixes are being worked on.

I'm sorry that you find this such a horrible thing.