we will look into this behavior, the assumption was that players that only loot one wreck at a time would want to see that it went into the Cargo hold once the 'Loot All' button was pressed. But if the Ship's Cargo hold is empty however, we have now observed users thinking nothing happened because they see no change in the content area of the Inventory window and sometimes they might not notice the focus change in the Index tree, or simply have the Index tree minimized, so this needs addressing I agree. The action should simply close the cargo window once the cargo container is empty, if the user opened a cargo container directly (as a secondary inventory window).

The only question that remains is, if a user opens up the Inventory from the Neocom, and is using the Index tree, will he also want that window to close when he has pressed 'Loot all' on the last wreck in the index tree?

When boarding your rookie ship for the first time the rookie ship pointer needs to stay on the ship so you do not miss that information. Right now if you use the overview to board it you miss the detail. Or move the rookie ship to some where it will be in frame for a normal person who will be more zoomed in becouse they are in a pod.
- feature request I think
I don't /entirely/ understand what you're saying here


The green tool tip is not consistant. once the ship gets rendered in your view the box directs you to it. But you have to look around for it first. Same thing with the gates.

Ok, I think I understand. It should be rendering in the side/corner of the screen as soon as you get onto the right page. I'll check it out tomorrow.

The proposal is valid and I will look at ways to solve this problem, I just need to sit down with Soundwave and a UI programmers to see how much work it would be and when we could do it. We would also need to compare it to other Shift functionality regarding such an 'Esc' setting, would it only apply to the Inventory, or be a global 'Make SHIFT a primary behavior' kind of thing? etc.


We will look into this behavior, the assumption was that players that only loot one wreck at a time would want to see that it went into the Cargo hold once the 'Loot All' button was pressed. But if the Ship's Cargo hold is empty however, we have now observed users thinking nothing happened because they see no change in the content area of the Inventory window and sometimes they might not notice the focus change in the Index tree, or simply have the Index tree minimized, so this needs addressing I agree. The action should simply close the cargo window once the cargo container is empty, if the user opened a cargo container directly (as a secondary inventory window).

The only question that remains is, if a user opens up the Inventory from the Neocom, and is using the Index tree, will he also want that window to close when he has pressed 'Loot all' on the last wreck in the index tree?

It might have gotten lost but there are BR that are not filtered by ISD becouse they cannot anwer them easily. Can a dev go thru and clear out the NPE, and UI portions of the Bug report system.

The green edge bug reprort was posted on the first Sisi build and only got noticed becouse I posted a seperate post about it and contact ISD directly to get it on the defect list.

I can do this tomorrow :)

Yes and I added a comment about the Double click go there option getting forgotten easily.

Not teaching double-click is intentional, you don't really *need* it at this stage so we cut out teaching it.

Not teaching double-click is intentional, you don't really *need* it at this stage so we cut out teaching it.

Thanks for the reply. I mostly meant, that I read Seleene's blog and it mentions meeting the CCP dev, CCP Arrow. Seleene then tells us he is the guy who did the unified inventory. I meant where is Arrow at? You mentioned soundwave and others, and they are cool and well trained to calm us down. But like the new dev blog on tech, CCP fonzie wrote it, and he even posts in the thread over it discussing it. I don't even know who arrow is, or if he even posted anything. (The man who had a baby, won't even tell us about it.)

I kind of left EVE midway into crucible and came back to EVE in infeno 1.1 and had the horror of seeing this living evil in my inventory. I mostly mean, that maybe arrow did do the dev blog, and posted about it afterwards with us players. But I missed it sadly. Gonna have to correct me if he was more involved in the beginning.

CCP Optimal, UI Programmer, is on summer vacation and paternity leave.

* UI = User Interface. Uni. Inv. = Unified Inventory.

Sorry to bring back the hate, but why would an intelligent man take paternity leave and vacation at the same time? When he could have both? Something tells me he wasn't using the Uni. Inv. to help him plan the best breaks he could have. (Or at least use evemon to plan out vacations.)

As a free human being ( can be argued about ) you have the choice of at least selecting the things you enjoy doing in your free time.

It seems to me that most people who complain and argue about the game making statements of how much they hate this or that in fact isn't telling the truth.


In all simplicity if you dislike something or hate something, you discontinue pursuing that goal.

If you had no choice ( can be argued here again since you always have a choice however limiting it may seem ) one could say that your complaints and discomforts are valid, however in this case since it revolves around your personal free choice of choosing a recreational game/ activity all comments about complaints are not valid.

Simply choose something else to do that you find love in doing. ( unless complaining is what you find love in doing : (


So my conclusion is that if you don't like something, don't do it. The irrational idea of complaining about something and still continue with that activity is beyond me. One must obviously still like the activity enough to disregard the complaining he/she is making. Until the breaking point is reached as I think many are aware of. However the double moral still persist since you have a choice on what to do with your free time and how to spend it.

Also, please add to the feature request list dragging tutorials from the help tutorial list to chat. So many times i've been helping in help chat and rookie help where linking the tutorial would have saved so much time and typing.

We would also need to compare it to other Shift functionality regarding such an 'Esc' setting, would it only apply to the Inventory, or be a global 'Make SHIFT a primary behavior' kind of thing? etc.

An Arrow post We need more of these.

That will start happening again now that I'm back from vacation

perhaps it's "feedback" like this that is the problem. all most of you are saying is this is **** fix it, perhaps if you reworded what you were trying to get across we wouldn't be having these problems.

example: :your post: this inventory is sh!t and totally useless
:what you could have said instead] the inventory still needs work because -insert issue here- , maybe if you -insert useful resolution here- things would be easier for us players.


this is just an example, thus i am not saying that is exactly how you went about things

Just don't go making Sansha ships bright green with black polkadots or anything, they already look nice with their dark red/dark green two-tone paint.

Since SHIFT is in a very useful position on your keyboard, some of us already have it bound to other useful functions in combat situations. If anything, I would suggest having as few global shortcuts as possible to allow the player control over which keys to use.