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Mohamad Transporte
Yulai Guard 1st Fleet Yulai Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:33:00 -
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just few minutes ago... Goons has destroyed 4 freighters in high sec (u can check eve-kill.net), total drop worth 21.5 billion isk!!!
21.5 Billion isk people!!!!
that beats 10/10 DED, FW Missions and incursions all together!!
if u want all alliances to leave their 0.0 systems and just go fun terrorizing high sec and earn money for that... stay cool about it CCP... as it will destroy the game
u gave protection for miners... its time for freighters/ JF revamp... |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
717
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:37:00 -
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I was about to talk of null sec warfare but then I remembered you just mentioned "Goons" so I think I'm going to wait and have fun reading all the funky stuff you guys are going to rabble about this.
brb |

William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
58
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:37:00 -
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Just don't undock in niarja et al? :P |

Sugar Kyle
The humbleless Crew Capital Punishment.
95
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:40:00 -
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Because OP does not like something it will destroy the game.
OP, you have great power.
Also, how dare a 0.0 alliance enter high sec.  Tilde soaked words from something kinda like a pirate. |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1742
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:43:00 -
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*lol* look at the random guy whining about people playing the game as it's meant to be played.
edit:
Mohamad Transporte wrote:that beats 10/10 DED, FW Missions and incursions all together!!
Oh ... either trolling or really dumb. ^_^ Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

Jim Hazard
Scrubfleet
0
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:44:00 -
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Yes.. it is totally destroying eve... ganking in high sec has always been around and still the game kept growing every year. If the freighter pilots carry around enough cargo so that it is worth suiciding them it is their own fault.
You might as well ask for an ibis to be buffed to 1 million EHP because one guy thought its smart to undock in a rookie ship with plexs worth 60 billions or how much it was.
In the end if you buff freighters most likely you will only make suicide ganking more profitable as people will feel a lot more secure and will carry around even more in their cargo holds. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1421
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:48:00 -
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Jim Hazard wrote:In the end if you buff freighters most likely you will only make suicide ganking more profitable as people will feel a lot more secure and will carry around even more in their cargo holds. Perhaps that "pvp" thing in highsec is getting a bit inconvenient for some people, huh. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
718
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:49:00 -
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Jim Hazard wrote:Yes.. it is totally destroying eve... ganking in high sec has always been around and still the game kept growing every year. If the freighter pilots carry around enough cargo so that it is worth suiciding them it is their own fault.
You might as well ask for an ibis to be buffed to 1 million EHP because one guy thought its smart to undock in a rookie ship with plexs worth 60 billions or how much it was.
In the end if you buff freighters most likely you will only make suicide ganking more profitable as people will feel a lot more secure and will carry around even more in their cargo holds.
Those freighter pilots could also set an escort fleet and take care of their business but no, they rather play alone with their dozen alts scouting systems and then cry their millions HP hull got gank with several dozens times the ship value in their cargo.
Gank mining barges with destroyers is silly, really really mongoloid game play. Gank freighters it's serious business and only serious gankers can afford to know when and how to do it, I see no problem here.
brb |

Robus Muvila
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
60
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:51:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:I was about to talk of null sec warfare but then I remembered you just mentioned "Goons" so I think I'm going to wait and have fun reading all the funky stuff you guys are going to rabble about this.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1421
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:53:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Jim Hazard wrote:Yes.. it is totally destroying eve... ganking in high sec has always been around and still the game kept growing every year. If the freighter pilots carry around enough cargo so that it is worth suiciding them it is their own fault.
You might as well ask for an ibis to be buffed to 1 million EHP because one guy thought its smart to undock in a rookie ship with plexs worth 60 billions or how much it was.
In the end if you buff freighters most likely you will only make suicide ganking more profitable as people will feel a lot more secure and will carry around even more in their cargo holds. Those freighter pilots could also set an escort fleet and take care of their business but no, they rather play alone with their dozen alts scouting systems and then cry their millions HP hull got gank with several dozens times the ship value in their cargo. Gank mining barges with destroyers is silly, really really mongoloid game play. Gank freighters it's serious business and only serious gankers can afford to know when and how to do it, I see no problem here. "Ganking was never intended to be profitable"
Oh dear, morons who carry far too much stuff make ganking profitable.
Better nerf ganking  Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Cede Forster
54
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:54:00 -
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i'd go with troll here 
also: "somebody is having fun in eve at my expense, please make them stop"-thread |

Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management Unified Church of the Unobligated
734
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:55:00 -
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Looks like we need Derp Sec, as some people are too dumb even to keep themselves from losing isk in high sec. Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1422
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:59:00 -
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Virgil Travis wrote:Looks like we need Derp Sec, as some people are too dumb even to keep themselves from losing isk in high sec. Derpsec, yes... all of highsec will become that safe... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Borlag Crendraven
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
81
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:59:00 -
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That freighter died because the people who tried to defend it had no clue on what they were doing. The freighter was bumped all the way to 800km off of the gate, not one person even tried spawning concord there during that time. Not one person thought it'd be wise to sacrifice some cheap blackbirds to jam the attackers. In short, the defenders did nothing that mattered.
No, I wasn't there. I was simply reading about it in chat real time, laughing at the stupidity of the defending side.
Btw, the defending side was incursioners trying to defend a shipment full of their own boats, a bhaal, legion and some other junk that'd be much better off dying in actual combat. |

TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc Elysian Empire
370
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:02:00 -
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Mohamad Transporte wrote:just few minutes ago... Goons has destroyed 4 freighters in high sec (u can check eve-kill.net), total drop worth 21.5 billion isk!!!
21.5 Billion isk people!!!!
that beats 10/10 DED, FW Missions and incursions all together!!
if u want all alliances to leave their 0.0 systems and just go fun terrorizing high sec and earn money for that... stay cool about it CCP... as it will destroy the game
u gave protection for miners... its time for freighters/ JF revamp...
Troll thread? Troll thread.
Ganking industrials/frieghters/etc has been part of EVE forever. If anything threatens to destroy the game it's catering to risk-averse wowscrub hisec dwellers. This is not a game where your characters and stuff are "safe". Deal with it.
Or just wait until CCP turn hisec into hello kitty online with failwatch and subsequent expansions |

William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
58
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:02:00 -
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Borlag Crendraven wrote:That freighter died because the people who tried to defend it had no clue on what they were doing. The freighter was bumped all the way to 800km off of the gate, not one person even tried spawning concord there during that time. Not one person thought it'd be wise to sacrifice some cheap blackbirds to jam the attackers. In short, the defenders did nothing that mattered.
No, I wasn't there. I was simply reading about it in chat real time, laughing at the stupidity of the defending side.
Btw, the defending side was incursioners trying to defend a shipment full of their own boats, a bhaal, legion and some other junk that'd be much better off dying in actual combat.
I read that in an Italian accent. |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
107
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:04:00 -
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Mohamad Transporte wrote:just few minutes ago... Goons has destroyed 4 freighters in high sec (u can check eve-kill.net), total drop worth 21.5 billion isk!!!
21.5 Billion isk people!!!!
that beats 10/10 DED, FW Missions and incursions all together!!
if u want all alliances to leave their 0.0 systems and just go fun terrorizing high sec and earn money for that... stay cool about it CCP... as it will destroy the game
u gave protection for miners... its time for freighters/ JF revamp...
It is just plain stupid to transport so much ISK at one time without a fleet. Loot well deserved. |

Jonah Gravenstein
1112
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:05:00 -
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Those freighter pilots are slacking, I don't see epic amounts of exotic dancers in the cargo.
The 6ish billion isk drops were nice though.
lol@ derpsec, let's hope they never make hisec safer than it already is. Situational awareness FTW CCP can't patch stupid. |

Souisa
WESCORP 2.0
2
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:05:00 -
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Arent you suppose to use secure cans to avoid being ganked? |

TharOkha
0asis Group
27
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:05:00 -
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Im sorry dude, but freighter pilots need to be more carefull. Niarja is well known gank heaven. I never transport more than 1-2B in freighter (at least not through Niarja and peak times). GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |

Jonah Gravenstein
1112
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:10:00 -
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Souisa wrote:Arent you suppose to use secure cans to avoid being ganked?
Nope use someone else to haul your stuff, much safer and if it dies (even to "friendly fire"), collateral 
CCP can't patch stupid. |

Souisa
WESCORP 2.0
2
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:12:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Souisa wrote:Arent you suppose to use secure cans to avoid being ganked? Nope use someone else to haul your stuff, much safer and if it dies (even to "friendly fire"), collateral 
But if they cant see whats in ur cargo hold, or even access the cans if they blow you up. Less chance of being gank0red. |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1742
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:14:00 -
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TharOkha wrote:Im sorry dude, but freighter pilots need to be more carefull. Niarja is well known gank heaven. I never transport more than 1-2B in freighter (at least not through Niarja and peak times). Crap, i didn't know that. Niarja ... here i come ! :D Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

Jonah Gravenstein
1112
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:16:00 -
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Souisa wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Souisa wrote:Arent you suppose to use secure cans to avoid being ganked? Nope use someone else to haul your stuff, much safer and if it dies (even to "friendly fire"), collateral  But if they cant see whats in ur cargo hold, or even access the cans if they blow you up. Less chance of being gank0red.
Secure cans aren't secure unless they're both anchored and passworded, if they drop from cargo they are neither and anybody can open them and claim the contents. I believe, but can't be sure (someone please confirm or laugh at my ignorance ), that the contents also show up on a shipscan even if it is in a container unless it's a courier contract. CCP can't patch stupid. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4559
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:16:00 -
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Mohamad Transporte wrote:just few minutes ago... Goons has destroyed 4 freighters in high sec (u can check eve-kill.net), total drop worth 21.5 billion isk!!!
21.5 Billion isk people!!!!
that beats 10/10 DED, FW Missions and incursions all together!!
if u want all alliances to leave their 0.0 systems and just go fun terrorizing high sec and earn money for that... stay cool about it CCP... as it will destroy the game
u gave protection for miners... its time for freighters/ JF revamp...
Agreed. Let's reduce the cargo bay of freighters and JFs to the point where it's impossible for them to carry enough cargo to make them worth ganking. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Misunderstood Genius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
59
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:35:00 -
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When you can afford to move 20bil in a freighter you should be able to escort it by a few logistics cruiser and suicide ganking is history. Remember the times where freighter had to be escorted through null-sec by a 50 men fleet? Epic times. |

Volar Kang
Quartz Research Strategic Alliance
37
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:40:00 -
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Robus Muvila wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:I was about to talk of null sec warfare but then I remembered you just mentioned "Goons" so I think I'm going to wait and have fun reading all the funky stuff you guys are going to rabble about this.
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
OMG, Hamburgler! I finally found you! |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9430
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:44:00 -
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Humour. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Mallak Azaria
605
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:47:00 -
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Mohamad Transporte wrote:just few minutes ago... Goons has destroyed 4 freighters in high sec (u can check eve-kill.net), total drop worth 21.5 billion isk!!!
21.5 Billion isk people!!!!
that beats 10/10 DED, FW Missions and incursions all together!!
if u want all alliances to leave their 0.0 systems and just go fun terrorizing high sec and earn money for that... stay cool about it CCP... as it will destroy the game
u gave protection for miners... its time for freighters/ JF revamp...
Here's a better idea.
Instead of demanding CCP to make it easier for you, stop making yourselves profitable targets. Suicide ganking happens because the victim makes it profitable. By the way, miners are still being ganked.
Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
907
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Posted - 2012.09.10 12:48:00 -
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You guys are insane to think that hauler buffs aren't on CCP's short-list. The only reason we didn't get them now is because they're afraid to cross the red line by moving too fast. You really think that after everything that's happened in the past couple of years, we won't see Skiffed-out Iteron threes autopiloting through Sivala before the 2013 winter holidays?
Please. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |
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