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Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:09:00 -
[6961]
 Originally by: Karontin Maysubile
This is just so sad. I honestly think Eve will not make it through this mess. Think of all the story, the gameplay, everyone you know in game who will simply vanish.
CCP, you let your shortsighted beancounters make your policy and now New Eden will die because of it.
cutting my losses early, -2.
New Eden is the past - New Monocle is the future
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Eladaris
Amarr
Excessum Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:09:00 -
[6962]
Originally by: Miilla
Originally by: Chomskian
there is no game like eve and CCP should be proud of that. and they have done many things to bring the community closer than any other company.
i sincerely hope that the devs of the game that has entertained me so much for the past 3 years do not step on the faith that they themselves have helped generate in the players' hearts.
there is always the profit motive, but we expect limits on the money grabbing hand.
please, please do not put in any MT items that directly effect gameplay. I dont know what game i'll end up playing.
Chomskian
Uhh, wake up?
Chomskian, since we've pretty much got direct proof from CCP that they aren't listening to the customers you should probably start shopping now. They have a course, they aren't altering it for this minor and _very predictable feedback_. They're looking at the number of MT items sold.
They made THOUSANDS of dollars overnight. They really don't care what the rest of the player base does.
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King Pleasure
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:09:00 -
[6963]
Well, that's me out. Pathetic dev blog followed up by a pathetic email.
- 2 accounts.
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Frumentarii
Gallente
Bellum Aeternus
Imperial 0rder
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:09:00 -
[6964]
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:10:00 -
[6965]
Its like the leaders of of CCP are on the titanic and saw the iceberg coming and just decided to crash into it anyway.
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Ryunosuke Kusanagi
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:10:00 -
[6966]
Originally by: Android Mindslave
The thing that gets me is that they think we are actually stupid.
Sure, we run around and jump up and down and holler, but the underlying problems and concerns have been communicated quite clearly and intelligently. CCP simply refuses to deal with their customers. There isn't anything intelligent left to say because there is no dialog.
The fact that the customers are even sticking around to jump up and down and scream is a damn gift to CCP. When a customer gets angry and starts yelling, that means they want to give you a second chance. They want you to fix things. The true FU is when a customer simply walks away.
The fact that they think "lets just hide until they stop screaming at us" is even some sort of cunning plan that is going to result in anything other than customers walking away.
Plus, you know people are going to badmouth CCP over this.
I never played Starwars, I don't know exactly what the NGE is, yet I know about it and I know it adds some level of :lolsony: when it comes to MMOs.
Fact of the matter is that CCP thinks they can treat us like serfs. Resources they are entitled to exploit, and that anything we want is because we are the ones with the entitlement complex. Fact is, we pay subs. Fact is that we are MAD AS HELL over the fact that CCP is embezzling those subs off to non-EVE stuff. We are paying, they are not delivering, and they think WE are the ones acting like entitled unruly little children?
The only thing going on here is that we are calling BULL on them.
I was there from the beginning, I remember sony giving us a free day because their login servers couldnt handle the initial login load. I was there for CU, I was there for NGE, I left about 2 days afterwards. I dont think my PA survived the week. NGE.... when SWG lost about 80-85% of their playerbase overnight, maybe more, numbers are/were hard to verify. I hope that Eve doesn't .... become so devoid. I hope that it doesnt become PtW.
But... the same inherent problems that surrounded Sony, and NGE, currently surrounds EVE and CCP and Microtransactions. Lack of communications, lack of costumer respect, management ... issues. I remember that when NGE was released... the PR director quit within the hour of the patch release... also quoting Pann... "I am sorry, I have failed you." Tiggs said the exact same thing....
History, when you don't learn from it, you are doomed to repeat it.
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OMGWTFResearch
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:11:00 -
[6967]
CCP you continue to escalate this crisis by not doing what you need to be doing which is responding to the community in a professional matter. That is not "knee jerk" it is what a responsible company does.
The blog post was in my opinion a half baked attempt to pass the buck. Meanwhile your company PR is being torn apart on blog sites and semi major media. And now the exposure of the email is likely what will cause many people on the sidelines to go on and unsubscribe.
You are refusing to come out and say that the new microtranaction currency will not ever be used to buy items or anything that can affect the space game. This is in my opinion now costing your company more money though lost subscriptions and lost employee productivity than microtransactions could EVER give you as far as financial resources.
It is just about at the point of being the biggest criris in EVE online's long history. Because it is one step away (Which is the confirmation of the microtranaction currency being able to affect gameplay) from a percentage of the playerbase to simply leave. Which in my opinion will be a crushing financial blow to CCP resuling in reduced ability to develop future titles needed to remain a viable company.
You know what happens when a company has that happen to them? Their investors or controlling interest's sell them elseware in fear of continued failure.
I have said it once and I'll say it again I WILL leave Eve online in the event the microtranaction currency is able to purchase items that effect the space gameplay.
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Ris Dnalor
Minmatar
Fleet of Doom
RaVeN Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:11:00 -
[6968]
Originally by: Miilla
Originally by: Sekhmet Neteret
Please read the chief complaints before mentioning them in a post, it is not the price of clothing that is the real problem, it is the chance that SP and Standings may be sold, as well as other "useful" items.
I think we have gone past that stage of our chief complaints.
The issue now is CCP's disregard and arrogance and attitude towards us.
You are wasting your breath with your "chief complaints".
We have got all the TRUTH we need now, the message was CLEAR.
If you cannot see it, read some of my YELLOW comments a few pages back (roughly around where the guy with the propellor hat is with daffey duck)
bolded bits for emphasis.
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Hithalu
Minmatar
The Red Circle Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:11:00 -
[6969]
Edited by: Hithalu on 25/06/2011 04:11:34
Hah! I quoted the now famous yellow text asking whether or not AUR items were moving beyond vanity, and my post was deleted. I have been pretty silent thus far, but that, coupled with all of the other issues that are being flat out ignored and brushed aside...
My three accounts will not be renewed. Add them to the hundreds before me, and count on hundreds more. You people are a god damn joke.
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Manos Heimenbarger
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:12:00 -
[6970]
Originally by: RougeOperator
Its like the leaders of of CCP are on the titanic and saw the iceberg coming and just decided to crash into it anyway.
They predicted some damage and are convinced it won't be that bad >.>
I just hope enough people unsubscribe to hurt them. I don't care anymore, I just want CCP to collapse.
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Jaik7
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:12:00 -
[6971]
ack! i made it to the end! now i can post while feeling informed! (kinda, its still the internet)
i want to give CCP the benefit of the doubt. therefore, i will cancel my sub when they introduce microtransactions for real stuff, not just monocles and boots.
i want a competitive MMORPG where the answer is "work harder" or "fight smarter" and not "shop more". i was hoping that eve would be that game. please don't make me go.
as far as money goes, i was planning on using the buddy program to get my cousin into the game. we had planned an elaborate event tommorow where me and my buddies on TS would closely moniter his first steps into this world and help him as much as we could. we've canceled the event, because his graphics card is worse than mine, i run CQ at 19 FPS on low settings, and we didnt have the heart to tell him to turn off load station enviros before he got into the game for the first time.
we thought that would show a lack of confidence in the game. after thought, we realized that we don't have any confidence. expect my entire corp(alliance?) to leave when i do, as soon as microtransactions for real stuff begins.
Originally by: CCP Shadow
The trolls have been vanquished.
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Corrak
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:12:00 -
[6972]
This is gonna be Eve's rapture. We'll all wake up in the morning and check in to see what has happened and all our better thinking Eve friends will have vanished without a trace all we'll find is their stuff.
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Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:13:00 -
[6973]
Originally by: Hithalu
Edited by: Hithalu on 25/06/2011 04:11:34
Hah! I quoted the now famous yellow text asking whether or not AUR items were moving beyond vanity, and my post was deleted. I have been pretty silent thus far, but that, coupled with all of the other issues that are being flat out ignored and brushed aside...
My three accounts will not be renewed. Add them to the hundreds before me, and count on hundreds more. You people are a god damn joke.
I started that one too lol
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:14:00 -
[6974]
Edited by: RougeOperator on 25/06/2011 04:15:08
Originally by: CCP Pann
If you have something to say, IÆd like very much to hear it.
Originally by: Hilmar
this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say.
This is fricken mental.
They send out a PR person to handle our complaints. While they plan never to give a flying rats ass about a damn thing we say.
This just means Pann is as guilty of the CEO for lying to us. Since she had to know that this was the case from the get go. While pretending that it mattered. Guess that's why there was so little interaction with the customers in the thread. They just made the thread to pretend to be doing something about it.
They really think we are to stupid to see through this.
Burn CCP
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Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:15:00 -
[6975]
Originally by: Eladaris
They made THOUSANDS of dollars overnight. They really don't care what the rest of the player base does.
There's really no evidence they made money. Those PLEX to fund the AUR could have been bought with ISK. Those PLEX bought that caused a price in PLEX prices doesn't mean those PLEX will be replaced aggressively if there is a decreased demand because there's less people willing to buy them.
Meaning, that CCP is losing money under the justification that 52 items were bought.
Really?
That's their best justification. 52 were purchased out of 400,000 players?
52 * 12000 AUR = 648,000 AUR.
If they had sold them for 300 AUR ($20/10=$2) they might have sold over 10,000 units = 3,000,000 AUR.
Micro-transactions don't work because they're unjustifiably expensive. They work because people think "EH, it's only $2" and then a before you know it a hundred thousand have been sold.
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Foxtrot986
Invention Services
Self Service Research
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:15:00 -
[6976]
boot.ini
aurum
fearless
Hilmar
obscene amounts of RMT
I've never before contemplated quitting as seriously as I am now.
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Oregin
Red Sky Morning
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:15:00 -
[6977]
If CCP still has some level-minded top brass and this turns around...I really want SP to make up for all this. I'm happy to pay for them with PLEX...
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Probably Alt
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:16:00 -
[6978]
Forum moderator's response to this shows their true colors and loyalty. They bit the bullet and should be fired at on sight (and their known alts). Nowhere in-game should be safe for them to dockup. Chase them back to their private sector of blocked space, they do not deserve to play with what's left of EVE.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:17:00 -
[6979]
Originally by: Manos Heimenbarger
Originally by: RougeOperator
Its like the leaders of of CCP are on the titanic and saw the iceberg coming and just decided to crash into it anyway.
They predicted some damage and are convinced it won't be that bad >.>
I just hope enough people unsubscribe to hurt them. I don't care anymore, I just want CCP to collapse.
No seriously... If the Titanic had crashed straight into the iceberg it would have stayed afloat.
Instead the idiot of a first officer tried to avoid the collision completely to save face and job, ending up gashing up the whole side of the ship dooming it to a watery grave.
A very apt similitude to what CCP has done the past months.
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April Rainier
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:17:00 -
[6980]
Originally by: Ryunosuke Kusanagi
have to remember, its only 5... 6am maybe in Iceland atm?
I'd expect someone to be up and at 'em when their livelihood is burning down around their ears.
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Ris Dnalor
Minmatar
Fleet of Doom
RaVeN Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:17:00 -
[6981]
Originally by: Manos Heimenbarger
Edited by: Manos Heimenbarger on 25/06/2011 00:04:52
GM in Jita chat still doesn't get its a bad idea to disrespect your customers.
Apparently their customers are just random guys on the internet?
wow. what is going on at CCP? Can you imagine walking into any other business... as a customer.. and be treated this way? really? WTF.
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Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:18:00 -
[6982]
Edited by: Miilla on 25/06/2011 04:20:09
Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: Manos Heimenbarger
Originally by: RougeOperator
Its like the leaders of of CCP are on the titanic and saw the iceberg coming and just decided to crash into it anyway.
They predicted some damage and are convinced it won't be that bad >.>
I just hope enough people unsubscribe to hurt them. I don't care anymore, I just want CCP to collapse.
No seriously... If the Titanic had crashed straight into the iceberg it would have stayed afloat.
Instead the idiot of a first officer tried to avoid the collision completely to save face and job, ending up gashing up the whole side of the ship dooming it to a watery grave.
A very apt similitude to what CCP has done the past months.
Not to mention the unsinkable design, doors to stop flooding, that didn't fill the entire doorHOLE.
An even better design, was the Wasa :)
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Gamingloser1
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:21:00 -
[6983]
I don't like the changes.
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Oregin
Red Sky Morning
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:21:00 -
[6984]
I'm betting those 52 monocles were not bought with real money. I'd be veeeery surprised if, given the uproar and shaky ground that EVE as a game is on, anyone is buying GTC's at all right now...
52 monocles is a victory? You make CCP sound like total airheads Hilmar...
How many subs have you lost? How fast will your player base grow now that your company image is being torn apart? Does 52 virtual eye-pieces equate?
You are going to find yourselves with 10% of the subs and those people having to fork out HUGE amounts of $$$ to buy this crap because you'll then NEED the revenue to keep EVE alive at all...you can bin the other games for a start...
TL:DR EVE was doing well, it was growing and it was making history. Now you're going down in history as liars and cheats.
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Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:21:00 -
[6985]
Edited by: Miilla on 25/06/2011 04:22:03
We sold 52 Monocles!! ->
Master of Innovation ->
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:21:00 -
[6986]
At least we know CCP is run by utter idiots now.
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Vikarion
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:21:00 -
[6987]
I like how they keep ignoring the real issues and planning on your eventual acceptance.
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Originally by: CCP Pann
If you have something to say, IÆd like very much to hear it.
Originally by: Hilmar
this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say. |
khac
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:22:00 -
[6988]
Originally by: Miilla
Edited by: Miilla on 25/06/2011 04:20:09
Not to mention the unsinkable design, doors to stop flooding, that didn't fill the entire doorHOLE.
Gotta hand it to them though, the door they released in incarna sure is slammed shut tightly
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Futar Csav0
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:22:00 -
[6989]
ùùù
ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö
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Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:22:00 -
[6990]
Getting tired while waiting to get more
from CCP Hilmar ?
How about watching a free lovely parody instead
Account expires in 0d 16h 22m 13s and counting
The another account expired already.
Here are my tears - they are free - reel em in
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