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La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.11 19:34:00 -
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KillerPriest wrote: Show me where CCP says this is a PVP ONLY game.
In EVE, a universe of unbounded opportunity awaits new capsuleers, whether they lust after wealth, crave the fight or simply yearn for adventure among the stars.
Source:
http://www.eveonline.com/universe/
CCP's own website emphasizes conflict and pvp.
Now give us a hilarious meltdown or :frogout:.
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baltec1
Bat Country
2449
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Posted - 2012.10.11 19:34:00 -
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KillerPriest wrote:
Advertising the PVP element is not the same as it being a PVP Game.
If it were a PVP game,we wouldn't have you guys here bitching about how CCP is stifling PVP against Highsec PVE'ers now would we.
See how the OP's OWN POST destroys this argument???
(Checkmate, I'm unsubbed from this thread,you guys sit here and whine all day).
KP
Given that EVE is know thoughout the MMO world as a hardcore PVP game, the Devs say its a pvp game and that for the 7 years I have played this game it has been known as a PVP game and that every activity involves PVP I would say that EVE Online, is a PVP game.
But by all means show me the evidence you have that shows the EVE is ,infact, not a PVP game. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
180
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Posted - 2012.10.11 19:38:00 -
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KillerPriest wrote: You can put up smokescreen after smokescreen, bottom line is you nullersare bored and you want some easy targets. Bottom, F'ing, Line. Miners in HS are like raw steaks and you're (alleged) Lions behind 8 inch thick glass. Go ahead and implement these changes and watch the numbers plummet.
So you hate people who dwell in nullsec and cannot corroborate any of your arguments.
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Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.10.11 19:41:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:KillerPriest wrote: You can put up smokescreen after smokescreen, bottom line is you nullersare bored and you want some easy targets. Bottom, F'ing, Line. Miners in HS are like raw steaks and you're (alleged) Lions behind 8 inch thick glass. Go ahead and implement these changes and watch the numbers plummet.
So you hate people who dwell in nullsec and cannot corroborate any of your arguments. I liked the "Checkmate" the best.
An argument for injecting risk into high-sec apparently defeats an argument for injecting risk into high-sec.
That's the best meltdown ever. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
180
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Posted - 2012.10.11 19:44:00 -
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KillerPriest wrote:
Advertising the PVP element is not the same as it being a PVP Game.
If it were a PVP game,we wouldn't have you guys here bitching about how CCP is stifling PVP against Highsec PVE'ers now would we.
See how the OP's OWN POST destroys this argument???
(Checkmate, I'm unsubbed from this thread,you guys sit here and whine all day).
KP
So please explain this to me then. EVE is marketed as a pvp game and people subscribe to it as a pvp game. Why are people remaining subscribed if it is not a pvp game? I can guarantee you people are not so enthralled with shooting red crosses or rocks that they remain subscribed.
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Alaekessa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
68
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Posted - 2012.10.11 19:48:00 -
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KillerPriest wrote:La Nariz wrote:KillerPriest wrote:No.
Leave the care bears alone.
Stop f**king trying to FORCE people to play the game how you want.
Stop f**king insulting people simply because they don't like PvP.
Stop f**king thinking PvPing makes you somehow a tough guy.
It wont happen. Let it go. If they're anything like ME, the moment I'm COERCED into doing anything, it makes me that much less likely to do it so yes, this will push people out of the game.
LEAVE. THEM. ALONE.
This is not a f**king PVP game; this is an MMORPG. It is PVP AND PVE.
Flame me all you want, I don't give a s**t. I am sick and tired of you GriefBears bitching about CCP not giving you people the ability to harass and grief all damned day because you can't bother to PvP with other people who WANT to PvP.
And yes...I'm calling your BS. You don't want to PvP. You want to f**king grief people. You want to harass PVE'ers because you're f**king cowards. Take your stupid asses to Low/Null with that s**t and let people play the game how they want.
God DAMN... This is a PVP game. Your meltdown was very un-amusing and I suggest you study the insightful works of Krixtal Icefluxor. If you want to leave risk alone then reward HAS to be reduced to balance highsec with the rest of the game. No one is trying to force people to play the game differently we want balance. E: The best idea for all of this is to allow players to control their risk and have their reward be dependent on that. The best example of this is freighting. Player A chooses to maximize their risk by packing their freighter with 50billion isk, they will reap the maximum amount of reward they can from this activity. Player B chooses to minimze their risk by packing their freighter with 2 billion isk, they will reap a much smaller amount of reward than player A does from this activity. In that example players control their risk which allows them to control their proportionate reward. Everything there is in the players hands including the responsibility for their success/failure. You can put up smokescreen after smokescreen, bottom line is you nullersare bored and you want some easy targets. Bottom, F'ing, Line. Miners in HS are like raw steaks and you're (alleged) Lions behind 8 inch thick glass. Go ahead and implement these changes and watch the numbers plummet.
No, the bottom line is that most high-sec miners don't want to play eve, they want to do laundry or watch a movie or whatever it is that grabs their attention. Every now and then (they'll actually have it timed if they aren't totally lazy), they'll come back to their computer to empty their Ore Hold and start the process over. These are the shitheads that deserve to be ganked, I say this having been one of those shitheads. I will also state that those who think that ganking miners for "teh tears" or "teh lulz" are also shitheads who need to man up and shoot something that will fight back. There is a difference between ganking to be an asshat and ganking to remove competition. CCP gave in to the cries of the huddled AFK miners and made it so that they didn't need to actually learn how to properly fit a barge/exhumer. Yield fit isn't the only fit, you can get a decent tank on a hulk, you just need to be a little creative and not simply hyperfocus on yield.
Get out from behind Mama CCP's skirt and Lrn2Fit. You'll find you get ganked less often, oh, wait that's right, you don't need to L2F cause Mama CCP gave you ridiculous EHP so you can still failfit your barges/exhumers and pat yourself on the back while convincing yourself and other n00bs that you're doing it right when in reality you're doing it wrong. I agree with the following assessment of the Mining Barge Buff and as a reformed "Greed-fit", High-sec AFK miner, I think that is saying something. -áMining Barge buff: CCP has acknowledged that miners in general are too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5093
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Posted - 2012.10.11 20:03:00 -
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ganking a hulk requires more attention than what most miners put in for the entire day
lol, CCP must be desperate for subscriptions if they have to save /that/ This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
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Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
328
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Posted - 2012.10.11 20:12:00 -
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La Nariz wrote: Instead we have the current situation that the once high prices are crashing because anyone can enter their profession and do well in it. Now they get to compete with bot armies as well as other legitimate miners. They shot themselves in the foot is a good analogy that comes to mine. I wonder if CCP will again intervene to save the miners from themselves.
"They shot themselves in the foot"
Really?
Has it occurred to anyone here that in the course of "helping miners", by heroic and charitable acts by gankers that err.... gave us that buff?
Sure there were ganks, it went with the territory, but it got out of control. WAY out of control.
On Darths repeated Value=Supply/Demand BS.
Really?
Has it occured to anyone arguing "prices are crashing" that if miners DID tank back then, mineral prices would still be wherever they are? The yield differential using/not using tank is not and never was a market changing number.
And the omnipresent ganker statement - "you NEED us"
Really? Even stranger, apparently we need the help of gankers to remove the buff so we can be ganked so they can help us again.
Who can guess where the real problem lies in all this? I lost countless ships and millions of isk on gank attempts. I did not blame CCP, Concord or the miner. I blamed me for bothering. I made more money.......... mining.
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Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
328
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Posted - 2012.10.11 20:17:00 -
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Alaekessa1 wrote:No, the bottom line is that most high-sec miners don't want to play eve For a start, they ARE playing Eve if they are "highseccers".
And by "not playing", you mean they're not playing the way YOU want them too?
That's a problem for you. Why? I lost countless ships and millions of isk on gank attempts. I did not blame CCP, Concord or the miner. I blamed me for bothering. I made more money.......... mining.
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La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
182
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Posted - 2012.10.11 20:18:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:Alaekessa1 wrote:No, the bottom line is that most high-sec miners don't want to play eve For a start, they ARE playing Eve if they are "highseccers". And by "not playing", you mean they're not playing the way YOU want them too? That's a problem for you. Why?
Explain to me how emulating bot behavior and not being present at the keyboard while the game is playing itself is playing EVE.
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Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
1490
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Posted - 2012.10.11 20:23:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:Alaekessa1 wrote:No, the bottom line is that most high-sec miners don't want to play eve For a start, they ARE playing Eve if they are "highseccers". And by "not playing", you mean they're not playing the way YOU want them too? That's a problem for you. Why? Explain to me how emulating bot behavior and not being present at the keyboard while the game is playing itself is playing EVE. I see he still continues to appear in quotes. How delightful!
While you're at it, sockpuppet, explain how devaluing an entire profession through lack of risk is not a problem for every player in Eve. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
324
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Posted - 2012.10.11 20:25:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:Alaekessa1 wrote:No, the bottom line is that most high-sec miners don't want to play eve For a start, they ARE playing Eve if they are "highseccers". And by "not playing", you mean they're not playing the way YOU want them too? That's a problem for you. Why? Explain to me how emulating bot behavior and not being present at the keyboard while the game is playing itself is playing EVE. Because there are various levels of time/effort investment in this game? Mining seems to be intended, in highsec at least, to be at the bottom of that ladder for in space activities. Also given the number of times when I did mine I came back to a totally unproductive ship sitting in space because the rock was depleted it would suggest that for a genuinely AFK player the game doesn't play itself. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
184
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Posted - 2012.10.11 20:30:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote: Because there are various levels of time/effort investment in this game? Mining seems to be intended, in highsec at least, to be at the bottom of that ladder for in space activities. Also given the number of times when I did mine I came back to a totally unproductive ship sitting in space because the rock was depleted it would suggest that for a genuinely AFK player the game doesn't play itself.
Alright why is 0 investment allowed then? Bot/AFK miners are the 0 investment crowd, 0 investment should have 0 return because you cannot get something from nothing. I don't mine so I don't have an anecdote for that, all I can say is anecdotes don't corroborate well.
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Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
1490
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Posted - 2012.10.11 20:31:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:La Nariz wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:Alaekessa1 wrote:No, the bottom line is that most high-sec miners don't want to play eve For a start, they ARE playing Eve if they are "highseccers". And by "not playing", you mean they're not playing the way YOU want them too? That's a problem for you. Why? Explain to me how emulating bot behavior and not being present at the keyboard while the game is playing itself is playing EVE. Because there are various levels of time/effort investment in this game? Mining seems to be intended, in highsec at least, to be at the bottom of that ladder for in space activities. Also given the number of times when I did mine I came back to a totally unproductive ship sitting in space because the rock was depleted it would suggest that for a genuinely AFK player the game doesn't play itself. CCP have clearly and unflinchingly stated that AFK PVE is not supported in Eve and is always an exploit.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the posts from CCP regarding this are all unanimous. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
324
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Posted - 2012.10.11 20:32:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote: Because there are various levels of time/effort investment in this game? Mining seems to be intended, in highsec at least, to be at the bottom of that ladder for in space activities. Also given the number of times when I did mine I came back to a totally unproductive ship sitting in space because the rock was depleted it would suggest that for a genuinely AFK player the game doesn't play itself.
Alright why is 0 investment allowed then? Bot/AFK miners are the 0 investment crowd, 0 investment should have 0 return because you cannot get something from nothing. I don't mine so I don't have an anecdote for that, all I can say is anecdotes don't corroborate well. Darth I'll try not to quote that guy's shitposts anymore. It's not 0 investment. For a player, not a bot, it's admittedly very low investment, but it's not none. And CCP has responded in the past that the low investment nature of the activity was intended. |
Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
1490
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Posted - 2012.10.11 20:33:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:La Nariz wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote: Because there are various levels of time/effort investment in this game? Mining seems to be intended, in highsec at least, to be at the bottom of that ladder for in space activities. Also given the number of times when I did mine I came back to a totally unproductive ship sitting in space because the rock was depleted it would suggest that for a genuinely AFK player the game doesn't play itself.
Alright why is 0 investment allowed then? Bot/AFK miners are the 0 investment crowd, 0 investment should have 0 return because you cannot get something from nothing. I don't mine so I don't have an anecdote for that, all I can say is anecdotes don't corroborate well. Darth I'll try not to quote that guy's shitposts anymore. It's not 0 investment. For a player, not a bot, it's admittedly very low investment, but it's not none. And CCP has responded in the past that the low investment nature of the activity was intended. But they never once said that it should be carried out AFK.
If you can find a post where CCP says it's cool for you to engage in PVE while AFK, I'll happily admit my error.
In the meantime, the record is unanimous. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
324
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Posted - 2012.10.11 20:34:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:La Nariz wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:Alaekessa1 wrote:No, the bottom line is that most high-sec miners don't want to play eve For a start, they ARE playing Eve if they are "highseccers". And by "not playing", you mean they're not playing the way YOU want them too? That's a problem for you. Why? Explain to me how emulating bot behavior and not being present at the keyboard while the game is playing itself is playing EVE. Because there are various levels of time/effort investment in this game? Mining seems to be intended, in highsec at least, to be at the bottom of that ladder for in space activities. Also given the number of times when I did mine I came back to a totally unproductive ship sitting in space because the rock was depleted it would suggest that for a genuinely AFK player the game doesn't play itself. CCP have clearly and unflinchingly stated that AFK PVE is not supported in Eve and is always an exploit. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the posts from CCP regarding this are all unanimous. I've never seen a post stating AFK mining was an exploit and have seen several to the contrary. The recent public declaration of exploit for AFK sentry domi's was even specifically separated from AFK mining. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
184
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Posted - 2012.10.11 20:34:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:La Nariz wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote: Because there are various levels of time/effort investment in this game? Mining seems to be intended, in highsec at least, to be at the bottom of that ladder for in space activities. Also given the number of times when I did mine I came back to a totally unproductive ship sitting in space because the rock was depleted it would suggest that for a genuinely AFK player the game doesn't play itself.
Alright why is 0 investment allowed then? Bot/AFK miners are the 0 investment crowd, 0 investment should have 0 return because you cannot get something from nothing. I don't mine so I don't have an anecdote for that, all I can say is anecdotes don't corroborate well. Darth I'll try not to quote that guy's shitposts anymore. It's not 0 investment. For a player, not a bot, it's admittedly very low investment, but it's not none. And CCP has responded in the past that the low investment nature of the activity was intended.
Low investment does not mean almost no investment like it currently is. AFK/Bot mining is no investment, low investment would be alt-tabbing to read an article while a cycle goes and checking back to change asteroids. Goonwaffe is now recruiting feel free to message me in game for information about joining! |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
324
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Posted - 2012.10.11 20:37:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:low investment would be alt-tabbing to read an article while a cycle goes and checking back to change asteroids. That is what AFK mining is. Or so i thought. If I'm mistaken and we're using different definitions please let me know.
And it should be noted that if I don't make the investment of checking back often enough I lose the benefit of gathering ore due to hold capacity or asteroid depletion at some point. That being the case I do get to a 0 reward point unless I apply additional effort. |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
328
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Posted - 2012.10.11 20:38:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:Alaekessa1 wrote:No, the bottom line is that most high-sec miners don't want to play eve For a start, they ARE playing Eve if they are "highseccers". And by "not playing", you mean they're not playing the way YOU want them too? That's a problem for you. Why? Explain to me how emulating bot behavior and not being present at the keyboard while the game is playing itself is playing EVE. I used to mine. I multiboxed 3 Hulks and an Orca on grid.
I stopped doing it and went to 0.0.
I used to watch TV for hours, while sitting on a bridge waiting for the stand-down. I cloaked up and AFK'd systems while I went shopping. I deployed my fighters on anoms and glanced occassionally at local while reading a book. I sat in station for hours, jammed up with a bubble out front.
I came back to HS and mined so I had something to do. I lost countless ships and millions of isk on gank attempts. I did not blame CCP, Concord or the miner. I blamed me for bothering. I made more money.......... mining.
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Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
1496
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Posted - 2012.10.11 20:38:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:La Nariz wrote:low investment would be alt-tabbing to read an article while a cycle goes and checking back to change asteroids. That is what AFK mining is. Or so i thought. If I'm mistaken and we're using different definitions please let me know. AFK PVE is against the rules, as stated by CCP.
I hope that helps clarify the terminology. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Alaekessa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
68
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Posted - 2012.10.11 20:40:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:Alaekessa1 wrote:No, the bottom line is that most high-sec miners don't want to play eve For a start, they ARE playing Eve if they are "highseccers". And by "not playing", you mean they're not playing the way YOU want them too? That's a problem for you. Why?
No, they are specifically performing a repetitive "set and forget" action that does NOT constitute playing the game. They are the ones who for whatever reason decided to make mining into a chore. Grab/make some friends, find a nice, quiet out-of-the-way system that has the minerals you want and IDK engage in mining ops. AFK miners aren't engaging in anything aside something AFK once they've started their mining lasers cycling.
When you actually play a game, you are engaged in participation with other players.
I'd love to see someone AFK "play" baseball or cricket or football. I agree with the following assessment of the Mining Barge Buff and as a reformed "Greed-fit", High-sec AFK miner, I think that is saying something. -áMining Barge buff: CCP has acknowledged that miners in general are too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
324
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Posted - 2012.10.11 20:40:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:La Nariz wrote:low investment would be alt-tabbing to read an article while a cycle goes and checking back to change asteroids. That is what AFK mining is. Or so i thought. If I'm mistaken and we're using different definitions please let me know. AFK PVE is against the rules, as stated by CCP. I hope that helps clarify the terminology. Then allow me to clarify that I have no issue with "low investment" mining. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
186
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Posted - 2012.10.11 20:41:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:~horrible pubbie post~
That does not answer the question I asked, try again.
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Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
328
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Posted - 2012.10.11 20:42:00 -
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La Nariz wrote: Darth I'll try not to quote that guy's shitposts anymore.
He can always man up and unblock. That's HIS problem.
Pass this on to your boyfriend ally,
Dear Darth
If miners HAD tanked, what would mineral prices be now?
Regards Strawman I lost countless ships and millions of isk on gank attempts. I did not blame CCP, Concord or the miner. I blamed me for bothering. I made more money.......... mining.
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Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
1497
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Posted - 2012.10.11 20:45:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:La Nariz wrote:low investment would be alt-tabbing to read an article while a cycle goes and checking back to change asteroids. That is what AFK mining is. Or so i thought. If I'm mistaken and we're using different definitions please let me know. AFK PVE is against the rules, as stated by CCP. I hope that helps clarify the terminology. Then allow me to clarify that I have no issue with "low investment" mining. And what, if anything is separating the terms AFK mining and Botting at this point? Nothing separates them. That's the problem.
Investment = Risk.
If you have no issue with low-investment mining, then you should have no issue with low-value products.
And as a natural logical extension, you should have no issue with mining as a low-value profession. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Hecate Shaw
United Freemerchants Society
4
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Posted - 2012.10.11 20:45:00 -
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I know this won't go over well, but near as I can tell suicide ganking is about as much an intended profession as AFK mining; both are more unintended consequences, not designed. Mining itself is an intended profession, and with the costs associated with an exhumer it was sometimes a losing one. So...CCP took steps to keep the intended profession working (killing mission loot refining, bufing the barges, no insurance for CONCORD kills, etc) to the determent of one of the unintended ones. That means that the other unintended one got a huge buff, and is now bordering on out of control. Should it be worked on (including using some of the OP's suggestions), yes; but mining is the official profession, and we should expect it to be preserved.
To all those scornfully proclaiming that mining barges shouldn't be fit with yield as the foremost consideration: how about we turn the tables and have CCP design a mechanic that forces all PvP-fit ships to also be able to mine a certain amount per second? Would you find that a fair and sensible rule? While I may agree that something must be done about AFK mining, do you see how absurd your argument really is? The argument is as absurd as me petitioning the local DoT to force city buses to all be fitted with armor so they can also be used for police SWAT operations. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
187
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Posted - 2012.10.11 20:46:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:~horrible pubbie post~
Or you could stop posting poorly and not paint yourself as a bigot. Goonwaffe is now recruiting feel free to message me in game for information about joining! |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
325
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Posted - 2012.10.11 20:47:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:La Nariz wrote:low investment would be alt-tabbing to read an article while a cycle goes and checking back to change asteroids. That is what AFK mining is. Or so i thought. If I'm mistaken and we're using different definitions please let me know. AFK PVE is against the rules, as stated by CCP. I hope that helps clarify the terminology. Then allow me to clarify that I have no issue with "low investment" mining. And what, if anything is separating the terms AFK mining and Botting at this point? Nothing separates them. That's the problem. Investment = Risk. If you have no issue with low-investment mining, then you should have no issue with low-value products. And as a natural logical extension, you should have no issue with mining as a low-value profession. I don't. I understood it to be low investment/low value and this has been reinforced by both CCP words and actions. |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
329
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Posted - 2012.10.11 20:49:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:La Nariz wrote:low investment would be alt-tabbing to read an article while a cycle goes and checking back to change asteroids. That is what AFK mining is. Or so i thought. If I'm mistaken and we're using different definitions please let me know. AFK PVE is against the rules, as stated by CCP. I hope that helps clarify the terminology. Nice obfuscation.
By AFK PVE you mean BOTS.
You didnt mean a player sitting at his computer desk watching TV while he mines?
You DID??!??!?!
Waaaa, CCP, MAKE them turn off the TV. Eve is dying...... I lost countless ships and millions of isk on gank attempts. I did not blame CCP, Concord or the miner. I blamed me for bothering. I made more money.......... mining.
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