What types of risk would you be in favor of? Do any suggestions from the OP stand out to you as acceptable or desirable?

Since Suicide Ganking is only as easy as the victim makes it, what's your point?

What risk do Miners and Mission runners face in HS? Crimewatch 2.0 removes the last incentive that Missionrunners and Miners have for forming substantive corps, as the Suspect flag removes the last vestiges of the need for corp membership for mutual protection.

Like using the D-Scan to look for flocks of Destroyers incoming?

Honestly up until now been a lowbie 'carebare' myself... more because I've been wanting to get a handle on the game before plunging into any sort of PvP myself. But last couple of days been giving serious thought to exploring or even outright moving into lowsec as a pirate or bounty hunter.

Something needs to be done. I blame myself. When the new wardec mechanic hit I was going to go after a bunch of soft empire corps just to ruin them, but ended up going after a hard target which turned out to be fruitless. Then work.. then a market project... always some excuse. When my market stuff wraps about winter-expansion time I'm going into the empire sand-castle kicking business. To the NPC corps with you all.

No matter what the bleeding-heart carebear apologists tell you, that is objectively the wrong way to play. You fall into this mental trap where every day it's "well, I better get some more money first" or "well, I better train up some more skills first." It will never end. I've killed bears who played for 5-7 years who still had that attitude. And I don't think I've ever met a person who actually went through with the transition after such a long period of time. I'm sure they're out there, but I'd still rather bet on winning the lotto.

Seriously, if you don't get over the fear of losing a frigate now, it will be much worse later on when someone doesn't give you a choice about losing a faction-fit navy mission-running BS. Seriously, I've given old players their first losses like that, and they ended up quitting the game despite having so much cash and assets in reserve.

Go ahead and list them.

Wow, you sound scary good at PvP.
I am sure that all of empire will shut down because of your declaration of war against high sec corps.

Combining a relatively low-action activity such as mining with a relatively high-attention counter-measure such as spamming D-scan? That's what leads people into questioning why they're mining and then they go to level 4 missions or quit. That sort of mining sucks to do, no matter how high mineral prices are.

Ahhh, perhaps you misinterpreted =/= as something other than "Does not equal".

You're right, they don't face any meaningful risks, and that IMO, is a problem.

Ahh, was talking more about learning the basics of the game. Not afraid of losing stuff I can easily replace... just not wanting to die is pure ignorance about the game... but have learned enough to start seriously considering it now.

Right, and all the freighters being lost in Uedama to your corp (a goon corp), they are a figment of the API's imagination.
And Hulkageddon, another goon treat, that never happened.
Nor the ice interdictions, nor the weekend attack in Jita.

And of course, the new AI that will totally wipe out drones as PVE platform, that will have no effect on high sec.

A good laywer, or in this case, null sec propagandist, should never ask a question he does not already know the answer to.
You are clearly bad at both.

You'd be surprised at how effective people like ourselves are at what we do. There's a whole science behind it that when properly utilized, results in such a level of demoralization that people end up beating their wives and children in frustration. Our corporation alone has over the years disbanded a few dozen corporations/alliances, and has resulted in hundreds of people dropping their subscriptions. I have a few huge notepad files in which I save the best rage, with people calling us "internet Al Qaeda" and such and hoping that CCP would crash and burn as their last act of defiance before logging out for the final time. And we're not even the biggest fish on the block, not by a long shot.

Well, all 9 of you must be truly deadly to wipe out so many high sec corps.
It is going to be such a shame when you won't be able to use out of corp alt logistics anymore.
Perhaps you will be able to drive people from the game with harsh language on the forums.

BTW, just looked up your war history.
Indeed, you do love your wars.
But given that 4 of the 5 wars you are currently in are mutual, it doesn't appear that you have many people terrified.

But you keep on your crusade to wipe out high sec.
I am sure that if you are all the other null sec zealots are successful (outside and inside of CCP), the investors in CCP will be thrilled with the "balancing" of the subscription base.

Right, and all the freighters being lost in Uedama to your corp (a goon corp), they are a figment of the API's imagination.
And Hulkageddon, another goon treat, that never happened.
Nor the ice interdictions, nor the weekend attack in Jita.

And of course, the new AI that will totally wipe out drones as PVE platform, that will have no effect on high sec.

A good laywer, or in this case, null sec propagandist, should never ask a question he does not already know the answer to.
You are clearly bad at both.

There's a whole science behind it that when properly utilized, results in such a level of demoralization that people end up beating their wives and children in frustration.

This is definitely what CCP should be encouraging.

I'm surprised marketing hasn't latched on to it.

This is definitely what CCP should be encouraging.

I'm surprised marketing hasn't latched on to it.

They did. One of the trailers was a nub getting his revenge by joining an alliance that ganked him and stealing everything they own and shutting dow their pos network.

Don't worry, it happens in other games too. .

If you want to complain about "they'll bring more ships" find me the killmail a brick tanked Hulk that was Suicide Ganked.

How do you suggest that we go about that?

That's been done in many threads.

You asked for a simple (pressing a button), careful (guaranteed safety) method of keeping safe.

If that doesn't suit you, then Fit a Tank. Tanking a Hulk made it unprofitable to gank you, but cost you one or both of your low slots (depending on paranoia level). If you want to complain about "they'll bring more ships" find me the killmail a brick tanked Hulk that was Suicide Ganked.

I see a distinct lack of child and spousal abuse in that bit.

It's not even that to be honest. A small loss, even a moderate loss, is alright. But now it either takes like a minimum of half a dozen Tornados (assuming optimal conditions) to kill the average barge, or two dozen people in destroyers. We could live with ganking not actually resulting in any profit, but dropping over half a billion or needing that many people is ridiculous.

The bears claim that it's still possible to gank, literally. Yes, it is. But the barriers to entry are so high that no one would bother aside from some special edge cases. CCP could buff barges to capital health levels tomorrow, and these people would still continue to say that it's possible to gank. They won't ever let go of that argument since they're so used to thinking in absolutes.

If by GÇ¥manyGÇ¥ you mean GÇ£noneGÇ¥, then yes.

Can you prove it's possible?