How about "Goons just suck" that way we cover everyday?

Nullbears always whine how they want more players to come there, but at the end of the day all they really want is more serfs to make their e-peens feel bigger and more baby seals to club. So trying to get them to make any kind of positive change to nullsec is never going to happen. They are incapable of thinking in that way. They only understand negative change, hence it's all just a "nerf hisec" mantra for them.

^^^ Has never heard of the concepts of "power creep" or "zero-sum game"

Now, now, while we may be fat, we're not so desperate for burgers that we literally suck them down. We do chew them a bit first.

Now that I just can't believe. I'm gonna need video proof of this "chewing" you claim Goons engage in.

Its friday, so must be a 'Goons suck because they shoot everybody' day, tomorrow will be the 'Goons suck because they blue everybody' day.

There is nothing at all wrong with the game mechanics, the problem in Nullsec is the way that Sov Holders govern. There would be more folks moving into Nullsec if the Sov Holders would simply set NRDS rules in their space. It worked before with great success, and there are many old veterans that remember that time. Just let neutrals come and go as long as they mind their own business. Not everybody wants to be enslaved to the narcissistic petty dictators who are currently in charge.

There is nothing at all wrong with the game mechanics, the problem in Nullsec is the way that Sov Holders govern. There would be more folks moving into Nullsec if the Sov Holders would simply set NRDS rules in their space. It worked before with great success, and there are many old veterans that remember that time. Just let neutrals come and go as long as they mind their own business. Not everybody wants to be enslaved to the narcissistic petty dictators who are currently in charge.

Why would I then go to nullsec when I could make a 1 man shell company and farm low sec and get 100% of my rat bounty for myself?

The point being, making it in the financial intrest for the sov holding organization to allow nuets to roam their space

you know, bring null sec out of the "dark ages", .

So NRDS doesn't work and NBSI is boring, is that the general consensus then?

How?


We've spent considerable amounts of time and energy to take that space. Why should we just let neuts, which would predominantly consist of hostile people hellbent on making our ships blow up, "roam around"? How would that even remotely "bring nullsec out of the 'dark ages'"? What are these "dark ages"?

So NRDS doesn't work and NBSI is boring, is that the general consensus then?

How?


We've spent considerable amounts of time and energy to take that space. Why should we just let neuts, which would predominantly consist of hostile people hellbent on making our ships blow up, "roam around"? How would that even remotely "bring nullsec out of the 'dark ages'"? What are these "dark ages"?

Presumably he lives in a 21st century country that doesn't require people to "set standings" with their equivalent of the INS before entering the country to work.

Is there a difference between "Not Blue Shoot It" and "Not Red Do Shoot"?

NRDS is nice in theory, but its flaws in practice appear to be covered in this thread.

So on a slight tangent. Has anyone experimented with a foreigners quarter like setup? Basically a system or two that is NRDS and accessible from elswewhere, but if you wander out you get shot? The most obvious issue being that even on a limited basis the flaws of NRDS would be manifest and you would have to just go back to NBSI.

As in real life if someone you don't know comes to your house and tries to use your garage you shoot them in the face regardless of their intent.

That doesn't exactly translate to countries, otherwise there would be a lot of dead "illegal aliens" in some countries.

Treaties was a game design that was going to allow for this.

IE: You are blue in some systems, but show up red if you enter systems you are not supposed to be in, such as the sov holders fleet yards systems.

NRDS is nice in theory, but its flaws in practice appear to be covered in this thread.

So on a slight tangent. Has anyone experimented with a foreigners quarter like setup? Basically a system or two that is NRDS and accessible from elswewhere, but if you wander out you get shot? The most obvious issue being that even on a limited basis the flaws of NRDS would be manifest and you would have to just go back to NBSI.