Not true either.

Skydell must think F0undation is still in hiding or something lol
what's untrue is claiming things like "too bad CVA was the only NRDS alliance out there, because NRDS isn't a completely unviable alliance platform"

I think the real aspect of this is neither NBSI or NRDS. It's a matter of being too pig headed to give someone credit where it is due.
CVA made Provi viable using NRDS and you seem unwilling to admit that.

Not true either.

Your alliance model is not viable if you fold up and evacuate to lowsec after you lose one or two systems, or if you lose a few "serious" fleets.

There is nothing at all wrong with the game mechanics, the problem in Nullsec is the way that Sov Holders govern. There would be more folks moving into Nullsec if the Sov Holders would simply set NRDS rules in their space. It worked before with great success, and there are many old veterans that remember that time. Just let neutrals come and go as long as they mind their own business. Not everybody wants to be enslaved to the narcissistic petty dictators who are currently in charge.

CVA lost the key battles. The battles that determined if they could confront another alliance and defeat them. If they lost once on neutral ground, they were going to lose in their own space as well and they would continue to lose until they stopped fighting back. So they chose to do what most alliances chose to do, both NRDS and NBSI alliances chose to do. Save their assets and evac. It's the problem with blob trumping everything. You are only as resilient as the numbers you have available and superior numbers will always beat you.

You can kill blobs of people and stop invasions with less players, it's just not easily done. It's a tall task for an alliance that can barely sustain itself in peacetime, and cannot survive the isk or morale loss of a single fleet against larger numbers. If there was a real reason to hold Providence, CVA wouldn't give up so easily. And the packs of friendly neutrals who lived there and enjoyed their space would join them in fighting back any hostile invaders.

EVE history dictates otherwise. Alliances that lost the opening battles where they put their best on the line, always lose the war.

example: red alliance being pushed into one station then dying

Remember when the NC, the biggest and baddest coalition in the game was pushing the DRF into Kalevala? That sure turned out well for them!

Then null players should stop crying about no industry in null when their play styles kill it.

Entitled, you say?

Then null players should stop crying about no industry in null when their play styles kill it.

How does that saying go? If your not willing to fight for something, you dont deserve to keep or have it in the first place.

You are cherry picking your argument based on situations that seldom play out.

Assume healthy game habits (if there is such a thing): 3 hrs a day

strong defense in EVE: 300 pilots with capital skills training.
8 play sessions in a day, 3 hrs long.

An Alliance that was determined to hold their space would need 2400 members from every time zone on the planet with a willingness and a desire to log in to EVE for 3 hrs a day like a duty shift. They would require the assets on hand to do that job and the back up asset to replace it.

When he says "the game mechanics make NRDS and in-house industry an unviable alliance platform", unsurprisingly what he actually means is that the game mechanics are to blame, not people.

See what you did there?

Goons gonna Goon . . .

So you don't actually have any idea what you're talking about? Figured as much.

Please tell me more about how POSes are supposed to be the backbone of industry in 0.0 with the ~5 slots offered by individual assembly arrays, and the added cost of running a POS

Oh and did I mention that there is no difference in the usage cost of a manufacturing slot in Jita and that of a manufacturing slot in the most deserted hisec island system?

Minutes? Fah, seconds even!

Of course, all that pales in comparison with the incredible investment that hi-sec industrialists have to put in. It can take several minutes to scroll through all the available slots in Sobaseki, for instance. I guess we should be grateful we don't have to endure anything like that.

Yeah, about two months ago I put 2700 T1 cruisers in build in Ansila, two jumps from Jita. I found 10 immediately available station slots for them and finding them was the worst nightmare ever. ~~~~~~o7 brave hisec industrial capsuleers~~~~~~