ccp rise you're killing eve online: a bad game

*I posted this in the wrong section earlier, my apologies:

I truly wish I had time to test these changes on Duality, but as I don't I've just been reading what others have posted so far. Judging from what's been posted about Amarr, CCP has given us the proverbial "finger." I really only say this because of the absolute lack of response in this thread from CCP reps while there's be so much outcry, theorycrafting, and suggestions. Then we have the actual test reports from a few saying that we, as Amarr pilots, are getting a bad deal here.

Is it really too much to ask to get some inkling of whether we're being listened to? Please, CCP, prove me wrong and restore my faith.

Aside from that rant, back to me pleading for you to stop nerfing ships to the ground. You've gutted the Abaddon by all reports, and that's a tragedy that I hope to not see make it to TQ. There's no good reason to drop resistances at all, and personally I believe that there should be multiple ships per class that retain or even get buffed to a 5% bonus. That being said, the BS class should at least have one ship per race that has the 5% retained. In my very own opinion that I doubt is shared, I think one BS per race should be bumped to 6%. Why? Because it's a BS. Staying power and consistent damage are what these ships are about, and at least one from each race should have the balls to soak damage and put pressure on the enemy (note I said pressure, not ridiculous damage, I'm talking about consistency here), be it in PvE or PvP. Again, that last part is my personal opinion with no math involved for now.

Overall, Amarr is hurting seriously from these changes. Fix the cap/pg enough that we don't devote so many slots to it.

Sorry for the wall of text again, this issue has me a bit heated still, and probably will for a long time to come.

Oh, and the gatling tachs? Sign me up, I wanna hear the roar.

*I posted this in the wrong section earlier, my apologies:

I truly wish I had time to test these changes on Duality, but as I don't I've just been reading what others have posted so far. Judging from what's been posted about Amarr, CCP has given us the proverbial "finger." I really only say this because of the absolute lack of response in this thread from CCP reps while there's be so much outcry, theorycrafting, and suggestions. Then we have the actual test reports from a few saying that we, as Amarr pilots, are getting a bad deal here.

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Its intended effect is NOTHING RELATED TO PVE. The balance was made thinking on PVP (and that is correct).




Even so I am more and more thinking that the battleships should have RACE bonus. FIXED values:

Ammar Racial bonus: -33% lazors cap usage
Minmatar Racial bonus: 15% extra MWD and AB bonus
Caldari Racial bonus: 20% explosion velocity
Gallente Racial: 15% increase on web strenght

That would make verybody a bit happy and coutner the racial identity murderign that has been goigng on.

A nice idea, but as Amarr pilots have long been pointing out, why the hell should we need a special bonus just to be able to use our "guns" when the other races instead get bonuses that are actually advantagious to use in combat? Why shouldn't they have something done to their guns that would instead require them to have a special bonus on their ships to be able to use them?

...its just an inversion, In fact ammar way is WAY better because at level 1 you get ALL FULL firepower.

Hypotheticals now, eh? Who's to know what a newcomer can get out of them when he first has to be able to fit them, feed them cap and help them track .. Amarr is, since you are apparently unawares, rather skill intensive even when just looking at lasers .. I personally got nowhere (almost) until practically all gunnery, engineering and mechanic skills were maxed out.

But yes, a person can leave the academy, strap on a tachyon and get better results out of the first handful of shots than comparable systems .. question is what happens after that handful, laser dps with 0 cap is not exactly stellar

... Know why? ...

yah yah.. I have all lasers and ammar ship trained to 5.. in 2 accounts.. while minmatar only in 1. Know why? because I do not pay attention to whinners and I am able to analyze the true power of the ship.. and I kNow how powerful amarr are


Its not hypothetical. At battleship level 1 the apocalypse have more damage than a tempest.. The battleships taht need MORE skills (on current ships as on TQ) to have max DPS are all minmatar... not amarr.

Because you are a bitter vet like me and established your Amarr characters more than three years ago, before the Winmatar buffs and saw no need to have more than one Loki alt?

An laser ship without cap doesn't do any damage at all (except of course with drones).

if u want a mini balagorn

and the caldari are pretty rounded on being screwed in the Battleship classes...

my thoughs on this.. One strong tank/ one strong damage dealer/ one throw away cheap BS for pvp purposes ie geddon, mega, raven, tempest are ur primary pvp BS and are already in heavy fleet usage....... Apocs, Rokh, hyperion, maelstrom are ur supplemental fleet used for there gun range aka sniping... hyperion not so much.. abaddon is a heavy pvp ship/ pve ship all around.... Domi... with new changes applied to eve are pretty useless.... primary fits are a neuting domi but rarely see them use there drones, scorpion.... falcon on crack...... Phoon... yeah interesting specialized ship that really id leave alone too.... Really the only things that should be looked at or improved is the Hyperion which actually really sucks... the raven needs some love because if ur trying to run missions with it your going to die sooner or later which is kinda sad. give them something a little tougher... besides thoughs two..... yeah... dont touch them

and to point out a specific example of these serious cap issues...Torp/Sentry Geddon vs Blaster Hyperion, both with a single cap booster and a single large repper, the Hyperion won because it could completely ignore the 3 heavy nuets of the Geddon. Very nice Brawler you've designed there.

Now, try it with an Abaddon. Needs dual boosters, one of them perma running, and therefor quickly runs out of booster charges, stuck dying flailing around miserably shouting out "have you seen my baseball?" Give the poor kid a helmet here!

And as the boosts on these 2 ships are supposedly putting them in the same role, yes, I feel this is a valid concern.

The hype looks badass on paper now. The raven got another mid.

"CCP has given us the proverbial "finger. I really only say this because of the absolute lack of response in this thread", F U C K O F F go look at the the amount of responses in the Caldari and Minmatar threads.

The proposed geddon is going to make for some really interesting fleet doctrines.

The proposed geddon is going to make for some really interesting fleet doctrines.

The proposed geddon is going to make for some really interesting fleet doctrines.

because your guns are WAY more powerful on raw numbers than other races guns. Compare the raw DPS and tracking of tachyosn on unbonused ships for example a maelstrom against raw DPS of rails on same ship.


That is why, because lasers have an embedded bonus to damage and they expose the limitation on the race by fittings, while in rails and projectiels the weapons are weak unless used on ships that have bonus for them whiel being easily fittable.

its just an inversion, In fact ammar way is WAY better because at level 1 you get ALL FULL firepower.

Again, I do NOT CARE ABOUT PVE, i talk on PVP focus. PVE balance is completely irrelevant. PVE is an economical activity, it doe snot need balance more than theere is need to balance the income of Radiologist doctors and garbage collectors.

I JUST LOVE ALL THE CHANGES!


THANKS CCP!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!

Obvious troll is obvious.

I JUST LOVE ALL THE CHANGES!


THANKS CCP!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!