It would go from 8/5/6 to 7/6/6 unless I'm missing something.
Either way, additional speed and agility is needed if it's to remain armour centric.

You are very limited if you cannot understand reality. Therefore I will waste my time posting only once more. Ship presence in killmails are not direclty related to performace. They would only if all ships had same skill requirements and same cost. Also peopel do not sop usign ships that thye had trained as soon as the ships are nerfed, therefor takes at least 1 year for a nerf to effect the killboards completely.


Also blindness cannot see that pulses are as good as AC and that balsters are also very good. The current issue is that no one wants to commit to clsoe range therefore reducign blasters usability. But that is not blasters fault. You coudl increase their dps by 3 fold and the problem would remain. That problem is because of current tacklign range that is too large, not turret issue.


The sensor strenght were buffed on ALL races. Because its a CPC atatck on ECM. Nothign related to minamtar. Leave your fanboyism hatred outside this thread. You are full of prejudice and unable to see things clearly.


I will let you digest that information because more could be too much for you to understand. Now let the people that understand a bit more continue the proper discussion.

I know the shield tankers are salivating over the concept of a 7/6/6 tempest but as an armor tanker that 6th mid doesn't bring much to the table. So I rather have it stay 8/5/6 myself.

As for the rest of the stats I do find it odd that the mega is faster than the tempest.

The extra mid can be used for a track computer . or some soft e -war. OR you could simply bide for a low slot instead of mid :P
7/5/7 would be nice as well.

Personally I think they should stick with the 8/5/6 layout. Adding another slot either way is pigeon holing a ship which has always been able to dual tank into only being really good at one or the other, and also losing the extra utility slot which is important for nuet and other such fits.

I also really like the fact that you can now shield tank the Typhoon with the addition of a mid slot which wasn't previously possible.

The thing is the dual neuting will be almost irrelevant now. If you want a neut ship you will bring the geddon. 1 neut is enough to deal with frigates. That is why i Think would be a MINIMAL loss.

I like everything except the Typhoon having its Drones nerfed. The ability to field a full set of Heavies and still have enough bay to bring additional flights of Light drones was one of the major things that always drew me to the Typhoon.

Yes, although the Tempest will be much faster and with a lower sig than the Armageddon, and also should put out much more dps. So it may find some use in smaller lighter shield gangs still. I'm not sure how its going to play out at the meta level, but something tells me that the Tempest should keep the two spare high slots rather than focusing on shield tanking or armour tanking.

Giving it a mid or low is simply going to pigeon hole it and make it inefficient to fit anything but the tank which has the most mid or low slots available.

If you go for an armour tank though then what are you going to do with 6 midslots? 1 prop mod for sure, but then you have 5 extra slots to fill when 4 is already plenty. Yeah sure having 6 mid slots is nice, but its a little overkill for an armour tanking ship.

It will be always better to simply fit a nice shield tank and then stack the low slots with damage mods if you for for a 7/6/6 layout.

Oo i can find very good uses. Sensor booster if I am camping. Track computer and track disruptor if I want to fight larger ships. Plus MWD, CAP Injector (neut is useles swithout it), Web, Scram.

I like the phoon losing a launcher for more drones. Meh.

Typhoon:

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UPDATE: Based on feedback we are lowering the Typhoon's signature radius a bit, and also giving back its turrets(though they will not be bonused) to offer some more flexibility.

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Drones (bandwidth / bay): 100(-125) / 100(-75)

Also bear in mind a damage control is always included in every fit, so the actual layout of the Tempest at the moment is actually 8/5/5 if you account for the obligatory damage control.

Meant turrets, sorry about that =)

Hey Rise, thanks for being awesome.

But I would seriously consider the previously suggested changes shown below. Loosing a launcher hard point for some drones would reduce paper dps by a bit but would give the phoon better damage application against a wider variety of targets. Damage application is something with which torp and cruise battleships always struggle. This helps mitigate that at the cost of some nominal dps from the 6th launcher.

As an added bonus, this further distinguishes the typhoon from the raven making the raven the only 6 launcher boat.
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Typhoon:

A 6th bonused launcher doesn't provide "nominal" damage, and changing from 100 --> 125 BW wouldn't offset the loss of the 6th.

A 6th bonused launcher doesn't provide "nominal" damage, and changing from 100 --> 125 BW wouldn't offset the loss of the 6th.

Tempest (ATTACK)

Minmatar Battleship Skill Bonuses:
+12.5% bonus to Large Projectile Turret damage
+5% bonus to Large Projectile Turret tracking

Slot layout: 7H(-1), 6M(+1), 6L; 6 turrets , 3 launchers(-1)
Fittings: 16000 PWG(+500), 565 CPU(+15)
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 7300(+346) / 7100(+889) / 6600(+59)
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap per second) : 5400(+87.5) / 1087s(-67) / 4.97 (+.3)
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 125(+5) / .118(-.02) / 100050000(-3250000) / 16.36s(-.45s)
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50(-25) / 75
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 67.5km(+5k) / 105(+5) / 7
Sensor strength: 20 Ladar Sensor Strength(+1)
Signature radius: 350(+10)

To remove a launcher from the Typhoon is just cripple the entire ship modification. I see the new phoon as the only and new missile boat armored based ship. The phoon is not a drone ship period. For that we have the new Dominix already.

Because what the game REALLY needs is an armor raven.