I really liked the phoon before, but with the reduced drone capabilities I dont think it will be so awesome...

We can try to convience CCP to keep fundamentals of faction versions of Phoon and Domi as they are though.

I never had an issue with it. (Edit: The projectile/missile/drone split, that is)

I'd rather they just look at the Raven, rather than turn the Phoon into a cookie-cutter of it.

Simply that, whilst giving you the new ship with one hand, they're taking away the old one with the other.

One remarks: for whose who say : if you want to go for missiles use a raven, we do not need an armor raven ... well i need to tank armor and to launch missiles, my personnals stats, and others (from jalmon as example) shows it is more than a viable option ...

A good idea.

Alternatively we could ask them to leave them as they are and add the "Typhoon II" and "Type B Dominix"... Even looking the same it'd stop the whinging in its tracks.

Again, the 5th medium slot ... is useless, you will not have enough cpu that's all.

balance and happyness wise that would be the best . But would impact economy, database etc.. and this team might not have authority to do so by themselves.

It's going to change the economy anyway. Typhoons will rise in price as they get easier and require less skill to pilot.

As for the database, only the people involved can tell us that, and they won't think to say if we don't ask them first.

I don't think that a single "Mk 2" Battleship per faction would hurt (They wouldn't require any new models or skins, which is nice), but it would, in theory, make everyone happy.

I mean the population of blueprints etc... need to make a new insurance price evaluation etc...

Surely they'll have to make the new insurance price evaluation for -all- the re-balanced ships anyway? The unchanged versions would be the only ones that wouldn't need it. :P

As for the blueprints, retire the old ones to LP stores?

Sure, you can still throw loads of weapons on a ship and get some DPS out of it. What I mean is that, first, you need a massive amount of SPs and second, you need to mix damagemods (or have low-DPS weapons)

The Minmatar Republic just thought it would be better to overhaul the Typhoon into a missile platform, so that the pilots aren't forced to train for everything at once.



Previously, there were no armor/missile boat. Now there's one. Not a bad thing tbh.


That is called "Changing things".


Indeed. We need an armor ship that throw missiles. Maybe not "We need", more like "It would be fun to".

Luke Hammarskjold wrote:
I really liked the phoon before, but with the reduced drone capabilities I dont think it will be so awesome...

Anyone else think that maybe the Minmatar should have 2 attack battleships and 1 combat battleship? Wouldn't that make more sense for the Minmatar? Also, I am completely pissed about the phoon becoming another Caldari ship... Don't we have enough shield/missile ships already?

Anyone else think that maybe the Minmatar should have 2 attack battleships and 1 combat battleship? Wouldn't that make more sense for the Minmatar? Also, I am completely pissed about the phoon becoming another Caldari ship... Don't we have enough shield/missile ships already?

To be frank I stil woudl prefer tempest as 7/5/7 because then we have an oficial armor tanker (I suspect the phoon will be used much more as a shield FAT BC / FAT stealth bomber.

Is there a reason that the new Navy BC's have more raw hp than the attack BS?

Anyone else think that maybe the Minmatar should have 2 attack battleships and 1 combat battleship? Wouldn't that make more sense for the Minmatar? Also, I am completely pissed about the phoon becoming another Caldari ship... Don't we have enough shield/missile ships already?

It's a sad state of affairs when every one wants to shield tank everything because armor tanking is sub-par now a days in most realms. Even in the Gallente thread the calls to shield tank the mega makes my skin crawl but can I really blame them? As I stated before I would love a 7/5/7 armor pest, but that is more of a want rather than an element of balance or rather I can't out right say it needs it.

Especially since the stats of the other battleships still seem to be in flux. What I can say is I don't think the mega should be faster than the tempest. The same perhaps but not faster, the mega already sports more dps and tank it shouldn't outclass the tempest in all realms.

To be fair.. current tempest proposl has MORE tank thatn current mega proposal. Only the mega low slots cancel that completely. And taht is the problem

The previous Tempest iteration was better than what's up here now.
The people complaining about the signature radius are high.
Now the ship is woefully inadequate compared to every other BS.

I was thinking of the 8 lows on the mega when I made my post perhaps I shouldn't have. So what do you think the problem is really and what is your solution to it?

I liked the tempest sig at 420.

Trolling is not helpful.