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Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2013.04.08 15:38:00 -
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Maelstrom - I agree. Perfect.
Tempest - I like it, people can cry all they want about signature radius, but I'm sorry if you're in a BS, and i'm in a moros with drop booster, I'm gonna track you whether your sig is 420 or 390 or whatever, still gonna get blapped.
Typhoon - LOVE, LOVE, LOVE. Apart from the -25 drone reduction, I think that's a little unfair, but we'll see how it does. I see the nano phoon coming back :) |
Deerin
Murientor Tribe
Defiant Legacy
78
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Posted - 2013.04.08 15:42:00 -
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I'll post this here but it is generaly valid for all battleships that use drones:
In phoon example: (Can be applied to many other ships)
100/100 drone bw/bay
This is bad game design for Battleships. For smaller ships, it "might" be understandable. But please keep drone bays slightly larger than bandwidths on Batleships so we can carry spares, different types. Mega for example, has 100/125, which will let it use his 100bw completely. Typhoon in this shape will very rarely use its 100mbit.
Also what is wrong with phoon having decent drone bay?!?!?
I propose staying at 5 launchers AND having old dronebay/bandwidth intact. Would have utility highs this way too.
Would be more minmatar this way. |
fukier
883
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Posted - 2013.04.08 15:43:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Magic Crisp wrote:Please apply the remote reps to the maelstrom's shield boost bonus. The other ships' tanking bonuses are usually applied to remote reps (resist bonuses?) While this still doesn't protect against alphas, it still makes them more likely to survive in fleet battles.
Pretty sure the Maelstrom doesn't need anymore help to be viable in fleets.
no but armor ships doo that get the same bonus like the hype/brutix/myrm...
like slower align time (not good for fleet)
and delayed Reps... can cause the ship to die before reps get there....
At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |
fukier
883
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Posted - 2013.04.08 15:44:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:Fixed the tempest sig to 420 (the number I actually have in the database), must have been a typo.
It did come up some to bring it more inline with the rest of the combat BS
i sense a pot head joke in there somewhere...
At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |
fukier
883
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Posted - 2013.04.08 15:46:00 -
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MuraSaki Siki wrote:CCP Rise wrote:
Typhoon:
Slot layout: 7H(-1), 5M(+1), 7L; 0 turrets(-4) , 6 launchers(+2)
should we keep the turret slot for phoon so we can push up the DPS even no damage bonus? instead of no more turrets can be fit on phoon.
i second that... one of the great things about the phoon was its potential to get 1500dps.... keep the turrets but just leave them unbonused....
At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |
Randy Wray
Pathfinders.
The Marmite Collective
21
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Posted - 2013.04.08 15:48:00 -
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The tempest has the dps of a battlecruiser and less tank than all the other combat battleships, at the moment the only thing viable to fly it with in pvp is shield fit and with these changes it seems that you want to keep it like that. |
Not a Troll
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.04.08 16:14:00 -
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The typhoon currently have 5/5 slot layout, so it's -2 turrets and +1 launcher. Just a small mistake. |
Sinigr Shadowsong
War Tactical Groups
SOLAR FLEET
72
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Posted - 2013.04.08 16:17:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:
Typhoon:
Minmatar Battleship Skill Bonuses:
+5% to Cruise and Torpedo launcher rate of fire
+5% Cruise Missile and Torpedo explosion velocity (replaces large projectile rate of fire)
Slot layout: 7H(-1), 5M(+1), 7L; 0 turrets(-4) , 6 launchers(+2)
This means that Typhoon now will be The missile BS. Explosion velocity bonus is by far stronger than missile velocity, especially for Cruise Missiles. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1220
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Posted - 2013.04.08 16:24:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Magic Crisp wrote:Please apply the remote reps to the maelstrom's shield boost bonus. The other ships' tanking bonuses are usually applied to remote reps (resist bonuses?) While this still doesn't protect against alphas, it still makes them more likely to survive in fleet battles.
Pretty sure the Maelstrom doesn't need anymore help to be viable in fleets.
But the Hyperion does. Give the Hype a remote rep received bonus!  (yeah I know, fat chance...) |
Major Killz
165
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Posted - 2013.04.08 16:26:00 -
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Give the Tempest 7 low slots and remove one mid slot and increase the Maelstroms CPU please.
- killz |
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BABARR
PARABELUM-Project
5
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Posted - 2013.04.08 16:39:00 -
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Tempest still need love.
7 gun (+1) remove a mid for a low to make a real gunboat like huricane or rupy, could be a good idea. |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate
WHY so Seri0Us
1257
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Posted - 2013.04.08 16:43:00 -
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So eerm. The typhoon. Capless weapons, utility neut, extra meds for target painters and webs so it can hit ships of all sizes and a capless armour tank? Did you think about that perhaps being a tiny wee bit overpowered?
CISPA - Readin' your secret corptheft mails since 2012 |
Krell Kroenen
Miners In Possession
135
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Posted - 2013.04.08 16:43:00 -
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BABARR wrote:Tempest still need love.
7 gun (+1) remove a mid for a low to make a real gunboat like huricane or rupy, could be a good idea.
Please consider doing this given what is happening to the Mega.
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Jack Mancetti
Rennfeuer
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
25
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Posted - 2013.04.08 16:49:00 -
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Thx to put in another Caldari boat in the proud Minmatar fleet,after cyclone now the phoon , it's a shame this times to be a Minmatar Pilot 
Thx to CCP which permit such a change in the ship storyline from matar
- steal us a turret point on the Nagl as Minmatar would have no more resources for more
- steal us the turrets on the old Cyclone ship and stick us this wretched Caldari launcher in our ship
- steal us our last bastion aginst low skill pilots and move the proud phoon into the Caldari ship series.
What's next,give us a Amaar hooded sweater or the strange Navy Caldari parting in our hair 
There's a bad summer for Mataris!
Mancetti |
BarryBonez
Ixion Defence Systems
Test Alliance Please Ignore
24
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Posted - 2013.04.08 16:50:00 -
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Too bad all of these ships are currently cost-prohibitive to me. I would like a +5% increase per level to insurance payout or -5% decrease in cost per level bonus on each one as well.
Also, it might be too OP or not viable, but how about a dedicated fleet ship. i.e. a bonus to remote reps received or given. We need more hulls  |
Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources
Tactical Narcotics Team
1077
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Posted - 2013.04.08 16:57:00 -
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BarryBonez wrote:Too bad all of these ships are currently cost-prohibitive to me. I would like a +5% increase per level to insurance payout or -5% decrease in cost per level bonus on each one as well. Also, it might be too OP or not viable, but how about a dedicated fleet ship. i.e. a bonus to remote reps received or given. We need more hulls
Mate, you live in nullsec. Go run some hubs and you'll be able to afford one in a couple of hours tops. |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army
Atrocitas
3267
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Posted - 2013.04.08 17:03:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:...
Tempest +60 sig radius
Typhoon +30 sig radius
I'm curious how you justify nerfing the Tempest and Typhoon that hard?
-Liang
Ed: Also, the new Typhoon 100% obsoletes the old Raven for mission running. Not that I ever run missions, but it's still something worth considering. :)
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Randy Wray
Pathfinders.
The Marmite Collective
22
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Posted - 2013.04.08 17:04:00 -
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BABARR wrote:Tempest still need love.
7 gun (+1) remove a mid for a low to make a real gunboat like huricane or rupy, could be a good idea.
Minding that the dps of most other battleships are pretty crappy too Im a bigger fan of another low, remember you can fit a gyro in that low increasing your dps almost as much as another gun at least on armor fits. |
Randy Wray
Pathfinders.
The Marmite Collective
22
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Posted - 2013.04.08 17:06:00 -
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Danika Princip wrote:BarryBonez wrote:Too bad all of these ships are currently cost-prohibitive to me. I would like a +5% increase per level to insurance payout or -5% decrease in cost per level bonus on each one as well. Also, it might be too OP or not viable, but how about a dedicated fleet ship. i.e. a bonus to remote reps received or given. We need more hulls Mate, you live in nullsec. Go run some hubs and you'll be able to afford one in a couple of hours tops.
Actually highsec lvl 4s are on par with hubs |
Vibramycin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.04.08 17:10:00 -
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Perhaps this has been covered 100x elsewhere, but what's wrong with giving ships with split weapon systems 3 bonuses?
Eg, take the classic versatile-but-hard-to-skill 'phoon and give it +ROF to torp/cruise, +ROF to large projectile, and add say a +agility (heh, or something better) as a third bonus.
If that looks like too much of a bittervet bonus (cuz need to skill two large weapon systems), drop a high.
Aren't split weapons bad (mostly) because they chew up both bonuses?
Seems like they can be a lot of fun and aren't intrinsically evil. |
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Zarnak Wulf
In Exile.
Imperial Outlaws.
1137
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Posted - 2013.04.08 17:14:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:CCP Rise wrote:...
Tempest +60 sig radius
Typhoon +30 sig radius
I'm curious how you justify nerfing the Tempest and Typhoon that hard? -Liang Ed: Also, the new Typhoon 100% obsoletes the old Raven for mission running. Not that I ever run missions, but it's still something worth considering. :)
This. Minmatar ships are supposed to be smaller then the sig resolution of same class weapons. Thi seems to be getting thrown out as we go along. |
Farrell Jay
Trinity Council
Test Alliance Please Ignore
8
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Posted - 2013.04.08 17:17:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:So eerm. The typhoon. Capless weapons, utility neut, extra meds for target painters and webs so it can hit ships of all sizes and a capless armour tank? Did you think about that perhaps being a tiny wee bit overpowered? EDIT: Also why have you increased the cap given the reduced cap it will need and the greater ability it will have to fit cap boosters? Really? It's powerful enough already, I can see only a gang fit with ECM or overwhelming numbers taking one of those down 
I think you're grossly overstating how effective cruise missiles and torps really are. I guess we'll see how useful the Phoon will be after the apparent second look at torps/cruise. |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army
Atrocitas
3269
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Posted - 2013.04.08 17:21:00 -
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Zarnak Wulf wrote:
This. Minmatar ships are supposed to be smaller then the sig resolution of same class weapons. Thi seems to be getting thrown out as we go along.
That is a huge part of why the Tempest has been "such a survivor", IMO. That nerf is just... amazingly harsh.
-Liang
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Ager Agemo
Imperial Collective
261
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Posted - 2013.04.08 17:22:00 -
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SICK! that typhoon now its a better cruise missile ship than an actual raven, and a NASTY torpedo boat! love it! |
Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
301
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Posted - 2013.04.08 17:22:00 -
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Jack Mancetti wrote:Thx to put in another Caldari boat in the proud Minmatar fleet,after cyclone now the phoon , it's a shame this times to be a Minmatar Pilot Thx to CCP which permit such a change in the ship storyline from matar - steal us a turret point on the Nagl as Minmatar would have no more resources for more - steal us the turrets on the old Cyclone ship and stick us this wretched Caldari launcher in our ship - steal us our last bastion aginst low skill pilots and move the proud phoon into the Caldari ship series. What's next,give us a Amaar hooded sweater or the strange Navy Caldari parting in our hair There's a bad summer for Mataris! Mancetti
QFT
Sarcsam on: what is wrong with you do you expect caldari pilots to actually train for guns if they want to fly phoon you do understand that that require time and skills,what about F1 do yo understand how hard that is!!do you do you !!
http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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Shaana Mistique
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.04.08 17:37:00 -
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I dont want ****** missiles on my phoon !! :(( |
BABARR
PARABELUM-Project
7
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Posted - 2013.04.08 17:40:00 -
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Krell Kroenen wrote:BABARR wrote:Tempest still need love.
7 gun (+1) remove a mid for a low to make a real gunboat like huricane or rupy, could be a good idea. Please consider doing this given what is happening to the Mega.
The mega is now designed to become a shield/DPS big boat, like a big talos. Maybe not a great idea, but i'am ont his thread to speak about minmatar boat, and when i see the epic new typhoon, i find the tempest more crap than before, and god, it was already crap. So making it a REAL gunboat armor, (maybe whith short powergrid or cpu to not be able to fit bigger gun too easy, or very small drone bay for the balance) could be a good idea. |
Callic Veratar
Power of the Phoenix
345
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Posted - 2013.04.08 17:40:00 -
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Shaana Mistique wrote:I dont want ****** missiles on my phoon !! :((
Then what are you fitting on it now?
DirectX 11, it's not rocket appliance! |
Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
680
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Posted - 2013.04.08 17:48:00 -
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These changes sound fine. Ridiculous drone bay on the typhoon was very weird lol. |
Major Killz
171
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Posted - 2013.04.08 17:50:00 -
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Proposal.
7 low slot Tempest. Any supporterS? |
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