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Kefra	Posted - 2005.11.18 12:00:00 - [1] Hi, I recently moved here from SWG and was wondering how many other made the switch after the NGE hit... I was on Starsider and my IGN was...(surprise, surprise) Kefra. Basically Eve offers everything that SWG lost and then some. In fact I wish pre NGE SWG should have been more like Eve.
Bermag	Posted - 2005.11.18 12:12:00 - [2] I did. Bermag from Wanderhome. Have been playing SWG since august 2003 but now I had enough of SOE's bad treatment of their customers. I don't mind the NGE combat style that much, but they also did away with a lot of that was still good in SWG (crafting and player economy and diversity of character development).
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2005.11.18 13:23:00 - [3] There's a load here, more coming every day. Welcome to EVE . P.S. Why did they have to use the abbreviation NGE? It makes me think that an anime series attacked SWG and killed it. - Proud member of the [23]. Don't get the reference in my sig? Click it.
Colis Carlyle	Posted - 2005.11.18 13:51:00 - [4] I just came here from SWG as well... Hopefully things will turn out better here!
Keemu Tu	Posted - 2005.11.18 14:14:00 - [5] And me!
Winter Star	Posted - 2005.11.18 14:16:00 - [6] And I. From Bria, via eq2, wow and guild wars.
Isss	Posted - 2005.11.18 14:49:00 - [7] Issisrisly form Chimera, lol. I wont go back till my jedi is uber again, rofl. Isss
Reevus	Posted - 2005.11.18 15:02:00 - [8] I'm here from SWG via EQ2 also. SWG IGN was Lathol on Sunrunner.
pshepherd	Posted - 2005.11.18 15:21:00 - [9] so many newbies to kill, yay!! ============== This is a sig
Reynold Halcyon	Posted - 2005.11.18 15:26:00 - [10] I'm formerly Stewi Crestlighter from Wanderhome. Being a master shipwright I found the NGE just stuck it to crafters way to poorly. Damn happy to be here though! Reynold

Tyler Lowe	Posted - 2005.11.18 15:44:00 - [11] Edited by: Tyler Lowe on 18/11/2005 15:50:35 Tyylowyspetily, Kauri server Master Commando, Alliance ace, Wookiee at large 2003-2005 K.I.A.: Killed In Apathy, by poor customer service, and bad game design at SOE/LA Shout out to all my Commando brothers and sisters from either side of the so called GCW. /Salute I am so very pleased to see that I have found the game I should have been playing for the last year or so. Careful vets, some of these noobs may have teeth Thanks to the EVE community in general for giving me and all of the other SWG refugees such a warm welcome.
GC13	Posted - 2005.11.18 15:52:00 - [12] All this talk about the NGE thing is making me curious... Can any of you guys explain to me (or give me a link that explains it) in very "I have never played SWG" terms, what changed?
Tyler Lowe	Posted - 2005.11.18 16:09:00 - [13] Originally by: GC13 All this talk about the NGE thing is making me curious... Can any of you guys explain to me (or give me a link that explains it) in very "I have never played SWG" terms, what changed? I can try to give you the short version, sure. SWG was, at it's core, a turn based combat sytem in real time featuring a pretty open profession leveling system which allowed for skills to be dropped and new skills learned. Crafting and support classes, were at one time competent participants in combat, as it was possible to be, for example, a Master Weaponsmith (crafter), and a Master Rifleman (long range combat) and be able to make a very substantial contribution to guild hunts or PVP events. Basically, there were enough skill point available to master two profession of your choice and enough to dabble into another field of your choice. The first change was the CU, which made the game level instead of skill based, which basically killed crafter hybrids, and doomed pure crafters and entertainers to a life without meaning outside of a crafting interface, and placed 100% emphasis on master two combat classes. The latest change tried forcing a real time FPS style combat system on top of the old system, which has resulted in keeping every bug which plagued the old system and introduced a litany of new ones. The new change eliminated any and all diveristy between characters by pidgeon holing players into one, and only one profession, and condensing those choices from 32 down to 9. They went a step further and made what was originally end game content, "jedi" into a starting profession, so many that had spent years in attempting to progress towards the highest jedi ranks were now no more powerful or interesting to play than any basic starter profession. They eliminated all item decay or wear from use and/or death from the game, and further simplified and limited crafters while they were at it as well. I did say I'd try to keep it brief, but thenm, you did ask for two years worth of agony too.
GC13	Posted - 2005.11.18 17:24:00 - [14] Wow. They did majorly bone crafters. And Jedi. And pretty much everybody who bought the game before the changes. As for the length, it was quite fine for me. Of course, I'm the one who was curious, so I'd hope I'd want to hear it. Thanks though. It's all clear now. Man, I feel for you dudes. Welcome to Eve.
Vancali	Posted - 2005.11.18 17:46:00 - [15] Yeah, here and WOW would be where most of the servers will go. I played EVE shortly after release for about a year, then went to SWG. Now I'm back to the place where expansions don't cost $30 and the bugs are kept at a minimum by a dev team that actually cares. Oh, I'm Van'cali from Eclipse among other full temp characters. ______________________ Van'cali ex-SWG player and non-supporter of the NGE
Kefra	Posted - 2005.11.18 17:47:00 - [16] Originally by: GC13 Wow. They did majorly bone crafters. And Jedi. And pretty much everybody who bought the game before the changes. As for the length, it was quite fine for me. Of course, I'm the one who was curious, so I'd hope I'd want to hear it. Thanks though. It's all clear now. Man, I feel for you dudes. Welcome to Eve. Yes, but what really mistifies me is how they can even think the 1992 Catle Wolfenstein feel is good. I always admired atheists. I think it takes a lot of faith.
Reynold Halcyon	Posted - 2005.11.18 18:06:00 - [17] Ya know, I hopped into SWG shortly after it was released, played for a good 6 months, took a break and came back to it just after the CU (Combat Upgrade). It was OK. Enough difference to make it fresh, I restarted a new char so I didn't have to mess with respec's. But this latest NGE crap went way to far. See the main issue most people should have with this is the horribly deceptive crap SOE pulled on its base. 100's if not 1000's of players pre-ordered the "Trials of Obi-Wan" with the promises of new content for creature handlers and other professions. 1 day. 24hrs after the latest expansion went live, they made the NGE public. With the NGE 100's of creature handlers were informed the profession would be going away. That's just f'n evil. I was prepared to give the NGE a try, see how it played out. But after SOE/LA shafted so many people I'd protest with my wallet. Reynold
Lygos	Posted - 2005.11.18 18:31:00 - [18] So EVE is basically taking on everyone who dwells on game mechanics to the point that they are life shaping boundaries on our existence? You'll fit right in. May I recommend the Ship and Modules board? Also, I've never played SWG, but didn't everybody hate the jedi anyhow? Targetting Sig Variance -- "Everything I love is combustible."
GC13	Posted - 2005.11.18 18:42:00 - [19] Originally by: Lygos So EVE is basically taking on everyone who dwells on game mechanics to the point that they are life shaping boundaries on our existence? You'll fit right in. May I recommend the Ship and Modules board? Burned. I considered making a remark about their experiences with SWG being bad enough to make the S&M losers shut UP about the minor changes the devs do every so often, but I guess I was feeling nice. GOOD JOB!
Judius	Posted - 2005.11.18 19:10:00 - [20] Originally by: Bermag I did. Bermag from Wanderhome. Have been playing SWG since august 2003 but now I had enough of SOE's bad treatment of their customers. I don't mind the NGE combat style that much, but they also did away with a lot of that was still good in SWG (crafting and player economy and diversity of character development). Wow the bermag I used alot of your weapons back in the day, I stoped playing SWG about 1 week before JTL went live charecter name was Zabin was a member of DSL and ELITE not sure if you remember me been a long time. Drop me a line ingame (judius)if you need help with anything, good to see you again :)

Mosschops	Posted - 2005.11.18 22:25:00 - [21] Farstar fugee here, NGE/lack of content/nerf'd Jedi. Seems Eve is a lot more stable and for the oldies, just like Elite but better, much better. PS, anyone wanna make a sig for me? Mosschops
Kromn	Posted - 2005.11.19 00:06:00 - [22] Kromm from Sunrunner here. The NGE made SWG into a little kid's game. Enjoying Eve tho. New In-game name: Kromn
Grifter Treysik	Posted - 2005.11.19 00:55:00 - [23] I've been playing even for nearly 2 months now, but I am from SWG. I didn't mind the NGE, but the lack of communication and the way they presented it, bugged the hell out of me. My account is now cancelled and I will focus all my time on EVE, perhaps that $15 bucks a month I am saving from SWG, I'll grab a second account here.
Ukucia	Posted - 2005.11.19 01:48:00 - [24] I'll add to the list of refugees. I was Nacoa, Thiet, Hello Nurse and Rahu on Chilastra. Immediately canceled those accounts when they announced the NGE right after charging me for ToOW.
Icki	Posted - 2005.11.19 04:11:00 - [25] Edited by: Icki on 19/11/2005 04:11:19 Itoz'kro, Miller Yukal and Icky from Flurry. To many lies, to much of SOE acting like stormtroopers if you talked bad about the game, the turning for star wars into a x-box game, did I mention the lies by soe? Itoz on here, and I can do everything with one toon that took 4 in swg <insert sig here>
Kylania	Posted - 2005.11.19 07:58:00 - [26] Originally by: Ukucia Immediately canceled those accounts when they announced the NGE right after charging me for ToOW. Welcome Ukucia and others! Did you know you can get a refund for ToOW now? I came from Radiant myself. A game with no crafting or community or complexity to it is a console game and not one I want to play. Cancelled SWG effective the 13th. -- Lil Miner
Squawk	Posted - 2005.11.19 09:17:00 - [27] SWG refugee here also. Baebar & Popi of Infinity. I am going to miss being a Master Droid Engineer Damn you SOE. Damn you!
Kefra	Posted - 2005.11.19 11:36:00 - [28] Originally by: Squawk SWG refugee here also. Baebar & Popi of Infinity. I am going to miss being a Master Droid Engineer Damn you SOE. Damn you! Somehow I think that you will find something here to make up for it. After only a couple of days here I sense that this is a much better run mmorpg. I tried to logon at 12:00 Eve Time and the server was up and not loading. Also the leveling system is actually quite smart from a business standpoint, but at the same time user friendly. I will not miss spinning lairs to level up.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2005.11.19 14:01:00 - [29] Originally by: Kefra Originally by: Squawk SWG refugee here also. Baebar & Popi of Infinity. I am going to miss being a Master Droid Engineer Damn you SOE. Damn you! Somehow I think that you will find something here to make up for it. After only a couple of days here I sense that this is a much better run mmorpg. I tried to logon at 12:00 Eve Time and the server was up and not loading. Also the leveling system is actually quite smart from a business standpoint, but at the same time user friendly. I will not miss spinning lairs to level up. Welcome to the next few years of your life . EVE has, through superb customer care, a good dev team, a great concept, and the collapse of all other good MMORPGs, managed to become the best MMO out there - Proud member of the [23]. Don't get the reference in my sig? Click it.
Avowech	Posted - 2005.11.19 14:37:00 - [30] Packed in my 2 accounts and the missus packed in hers as well. I was Chewova and Chyyk on Farstar the better half was Lini. Got my 2yr vet reward the day they anounced NGE, played it on Test Centre and it was pathetic.



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