So tell me how the hell you blitz a plex?

Income is income each generate isk and each effect the game differently and each are obtained differently

I'd say any of the large mission hubs in hi-sec probably produces as much or more wealth as the CFC moons. There are rarely less than 80 or 100 missioners at any time in the bigger hubs, and up to 200+ in weekend peak hours. If you want to call it an average of 125 missioners operating at any given time over the 24h period, then that's wealth generation equivalent to approximately 1000 R64 moons.

Because the endless supply of isk generated from the moons 23/7 has allowed the alliances to keep an even tighter grip on their golden goose. The war in sov is a war of attrition. That has made it near impossible to win that war of attrition with all the income from the moons.

The pay is fine; the risks are far too low.

Then we change the nature of missions

The true agenda of this CSM, and the players he is supporting, isn't really about making easy ISK in level IV missions; it is another very poorly disguised attack supporting the agenda to force PvE players, in PvE fit ships, into Low-Sec so they can be easy targets for the "pirates".

The same way you blitz a mission. Kill only what you need to kill to get your loot, and go.

The thing that is most disturbing, is that we have CSM's with a clear bias and agenda, and who's opinions 100% benefit themselves and their low-sec/null-sec buddies... but not what is in the best, long-term, interests of the game.

All of the "risk v reward" arguments are one-sided, self-serving, and deeply flawed.
Unfortunately, it is obvious what the "thoughts and opinions" of the player community this CSM is communicating to CCP.

The true agenda of this CSM, and the players he is supporting, isn't really about making easy ISK in level IV missions; it is another very poorly disguised attack supporting the agenda to force PvE players, in PvE fit ships, into Low-Sec so they can be easy targets for the "pirates".

If you are successful in getting your agenda implemented, and you begin funneling all the PvE players into Low-Sec so they can be target practice for those who are getting bored gate-camping for noobs, it might be great for you and your buddies (for a while), but it will be ultimately bad for the game and will result in losing a lot of players.

Looks like you can earn around 40k in 5 missions. Thats doable in an hour.

Alright highsec people why should something you can do in complete safety be more lucrative than something you cannot do in complete safety?

I think you'll find ccp are aware of this possibility

they can datamine a massive amount of info from the game logs, and you can bet real-money that they log stuff you might not think they were logging

ccp will know who missions
for how long
how many missions were accepted
how much ISK is injected into the economy
how many LP's are earned
what those LP were spent on

ccp IS the NWO when it comes to ingame data collection

Alright highsec people why should something you can do in complete safety be more lucrative than something you cannot do in complete safety?

Ganking is riskless

Alright highsec people why should something you can do in complete safety be more lucrative than something you cannot do in complete safety?

Does that mean they also are aware of what, um, short documentaries on human biology, watch while mining

Alright highsec people why should something you can do in complete safety be more lucrative than something you cannot do in complete safety?

For the record, going by dotlan's moon count just to get some ballpark numbersGǪ

GÇó There are just over 8,000 R8 moons listed. On average, such a moon generates 0.12 M ISK/h worth of goo.
GÇó A small Gallente tower (with its handy silo bonus that reduces the logistics need to manage the tower) costs 0.15 M ISK/h to run.

GÇó There are just over 3,500 R16 moons listed. On average, such a moon generates 0.37 M ISK/h worth of goo.
GÇó There are just under 1,500 R32 moons listed. On average, such a moon generates 1.02 M ISK/h worth of goo.
GÇó There are just over 650 R64 moons listed. On average, such a moon generates 2.58 M ISK/h worth of goo.

GÇó If all moons listed on dotlan were mined (including the ones where this loses you money, maybe to offset the cost of a research POS), the goo harvested would be worth ~131bn a day. The R64s would account for roughly Gàô of this.

GÇó As a point of comparison, last we saw any numbers on it, the value of mission rewards alone (not counting bounties, LP, loot, or salvage) amounted to ~146bn ISK per day.
GÇó As another point of comparison, incursions injected 300bn ISK/day and NPC buy orders injected 340bn ISK/day during the same period.

GÇó A 10% tax on all bounties and agent payouts would at that point in time have provided a total corp income of 134bn ISK/day.

You are comparing income from a solo player vs. that of an alliance or corp. generally speaking. Each is used differently. The income from moons is used to keep the ship replacement programs and propaganda and RMT and forums etc...going. While that of the solo players income goes to generate more personal income or more shiny modules. The average player does not grind 24/7 nor do most grind for exstended periods of time.

So you can only speculate what the possible income from lvl 4 missions could be because you donGÇÖt have the solid numbers only averages.


So the moon goo income is more steady more stable and is used by alliances like the goonies to keep the big blue sea calm and steady and stalemated so that you can not win the war of attrition.

Since this income is so poor it shouldnt be no great loss if they just removed it then right? Yea thats what I thought.

The pay is fine; the risks are far too low.

Doing 5 missions in an hour is possible, IF you were to reject a lot of the longer ones, you could do that for a couple of hours since you lose a shite load of standing for rejecting missions.... not only with that agent but also with the agents faction and corp....

Not sustainable in any way...

And you'd need to be pinata fitted which is never a good idea, T2 only fits in the long run make you more isk.

You are comparing income from a solo player vs. that of an alliance or corp. generally speaking. Each is used differently. The income from moons is used to keep the ship replacement programs and propaganda and RMT and forums etc...going. While that of the solo players income goes to generate more personal income or more shiny modules. The average player does not grind 24/7 nor do most grind for exstended periods of time.

So you can only speculate what the possible income from lvl 4 missions could be because you donGÇÖt have the solid numbers only averages.


So the moon goo income is more steady more stable and is used by alliances like the goonies to keep the big blue sea calm and steady and stalemated so that you can not win the war of attrition.

Since this income is so poor it shouldnt be no great loss if they just removed it then right? Yea thats what I thought.

Yeah local in highsec is so useful