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Apocryphal Noise
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:45:00 -
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GOOD JOB SAVING 150 TEST CARRIERS WELL DONE |

Peter Tjordenskiold
90
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:46:00 -
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Thx CCP for saving the hostiles. You killed the efford to hold over 100 capitals in bubbles |

Jim Era
6844
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:46:00 -
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watGäó
nulltears best tears? |

Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
518
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:47:00 -
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TEST has (not currently AFK'ing anom) carriers? Lock up your staions and hide your daughters.
Nulli incoming |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
2802
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:48:00 -
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Apocryphal Noise wrote:GOOD JOB SAVING 150 TEST CARRIERS WELL DONE
Try some of this
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Shamata
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
13
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:48:00 -
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CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! |

Cordata Jomar
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:49:00 -
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Just like to say I'm angry and flipping tables. My mega was alive when the node went down thanks to armour/speed/transversal. I log in to find it dead.
~thank you~  |

Xarti
Paragon Fury Tactical Narcotics Team
6
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:50:00 -
[8] - Quote
Aiwha wrote:TEST has (not currently AFK'ing anom) carriers? I was going to say "Not anymore" but then CCP saved them |

Daktar Jaxs
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:51:00 -
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Which CCP employee decided to restart the node and when are they and anyone else present when they made that decision getting fired? |

EI Digin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
648
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:52:00 -
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Six Six Six
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
175
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:52:00 -
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Xarti wrote:Aiwha wrote:TEST has (not currently AFK'ing anom) carriers? I was going to say "Not anymore" but then CCP saved them
That was nice of them. |

Eezee Gonozal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
34
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:53:00 -
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If this was a server crash it's just bad luck for us.
If this was an intentional restart, CCP ****** up big time. |

Adunh Slavy
1091
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:55:00 -
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WTS, Tinfoil 1,000,000 110,533.99 Jita 4-4 Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.-á-á- William Pitt |

Jonah Gravenstein
Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths
9490
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:56:00 -
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Daktar Jaxs wrote:Which CCP employee decided to restart the node and when are they and anyone else present when they made that decision getting fired? Blame Tuxford, he should be used to it by now.
In Eve you're a god, why have morals? |

Ecoskii
Penal Servitude
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:57:00 -
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Sort your game out jackasses - if your game can't handle the fleets needed to win in this game - don't let them happen.
Complete waste of almost 2,000 people's night - yup 2,000 subscribers wasted a night and achieved nothing in the end |

Rikard Stark
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:57:00 -
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CCP's response: "Human error, forum thread incoming; we are very sorry for this mistake :("
Well that's just dandy then |

The Strawman
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:57:00 -
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Whoah a huge fight that went on for over 5 hours ? Hey let's pull the plug and see what happens !
Yeah that sounds like a nice idea. |

Draghkar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:59:00 -
[18] - Quote
https://twitter.com/erlendur/status/352923608315736065
Human error guys, honest mistake that saved an entire cap fleet. |

Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
199
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:59:00 -
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My cup overfloweth with the tears of the CFC. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |

Tira'tai
Jelly Baby Corporation Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:00:00 -
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This is the single most ridiculous thing I've seen CCP do in EVE since I started playing. |
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James Messina
Section 8. Fatal Ascension
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:00:00 -
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CCP ARE WORKING FOR TEST. CCP just saved test from losing 80 capitals and 2 rohk fleets.
BRING BACK THE SANDBOX |

Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
455
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:00:00 -
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If I thought CCP did this deliberately I would pay extra for the next decade.
I thought CCP saved 150 carriers? Just 80? Tearful story not properly propagandized yet? |

Shamata
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
15
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:01:00 -
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don't care what happens... have to say this F*U*C*K YOU CCP!! "Human error, forum thread incoming; we are very sorry for this mistake :(" |

St3v3boy
Seedless Inc Y G G D R A S I L
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:01:00 -
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5 hours of battle and tis happens? What a joke. Test were about to loose their entire slowcat fleet in a decisive abttle and you reset the node! Absolutely furious at CCP |

Axhind
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:01:00 -
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Yea human error by some dev that just happens to be connected to TEST/NC/PL. But other than that a pure accident they ruined the biggest fight in a while. A real fight. Not let's drop bunch of supers and **** around. |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1113
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:02:00 -
[26] - Quote
James Messina wrote:CCP ARE WORKING FOR TEST. CCP just saved test from losing 80 capitals and 2 rohk fleets.
BRING BACK THE SANDBOX
wait i thought ccp worked for goons and zombie JFK. right. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Hybrid tech I ammo boost |

Ecoskii
Penal Servitude
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:02:00 -
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Incompetence is a special skill apparently successfully trained to lvl5 this very evening
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Setaceous
Nexus Prima
153
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:02:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote:If I thought CCP did this deliberately I would pay extra for the next decade. They should totally have in-game trollface graphics for the gate billboards for when stuff like this happens. |

CrimTheRedLightning
Paxton Industries Gentlemen's Agreement
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:02:00 -
[29] - Quote
This is unacceptable. CCP are you going to keep pulling nodes down for any large fleet fights for the rest of the history of the game? Fleet fights aren't going to get any smaller. You need to figure this out.
THIS IS HOW YOU KILL YOUR GAME. WE PLAY FOR FIGHTS LIKE THAT AND YOU INTENTIONALLY KILLED IT, AND THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME YOU HAVE DONE THIS.
LOUD NOISES. |

Daktar Jaxs
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
27
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:03:00 -
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Human error? Very believable. A CCP employee cheated to gain in game advantage. |
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Axhind
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:05:00 -
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Ecoskii wrote:Sort your game out jackasses - if your game can't handle the fleets needed to win in this game - don't let them happen.
Complete waste of almost 2,000 people's night - yup 2,000 subscribers wasted a night and achieved nothing in the end
It was not a node crash! It was someone giving restart command. That someone just saved a cap fleet and 2 rokh fleets for test and co.
Game is working fine, it's the biased admins that need kicking. People who deal with servers and nodes should NOT play the damn game. That way they can at least try to be objective instead of oopsing this way. |

El Scotch
Eighty Joule Brewery Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:05:00 -
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No promotions for that one, Lou. |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
3203

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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:06:00 -
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Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility.
The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now.
It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. CCP Phantom - Senior Community Representative - Volunteer Manager |
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1113
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:06:00 -
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St3v3boy wrote:5 hours of battle and tis happens? What a joke. Test were about to loose their entire slowcat fleet in a decisive abttle and you reset the node! Absolutely furious at CCP
nerdrage There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Hybrid tech I ammo boost |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
284
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:06:00 -
[35] - Quote
Someone owes me another 150 BS kills and at least 10 caps
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Arrgthepirate
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
63
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:07:00 -
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Thanks for saving TEST CCP. I mean saving us, TEST had us right where they were wanted us. |

Jacob Kelbrand
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
24
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:07:00 -
[37] - Quote
Useless. |

Aprudena Gist
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
48
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:07:00 -
[38] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. Its wasnt a mistake it was intentional thats for saving over a trillion isk of ships you idiots. |

Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1555
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:07:00 -
[39] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
Take the 117 trapped capitals away from the pilots that were trapped. They were dead and you should recognise this, I think! |

JulioClaudio Germanicus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:07:00 -
[40] - Quote
N3 is literally BoB |
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Hawkspur Firestarter
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
10
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:07:00 -
[41] - Quote
Cordata Jomar wrote:Just like to say I'm angry and flipping tables. My mega was alive when the node went down thanks to armour/speed/transversal. I log in to find it dead. ~thank you~ 
You were the dreadnaught primary for 10 minutes. You died but were bugged. Guns were cycling and not using ammo. |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
284
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:07:00 -
[42] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:[quote=Shamata] It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
Could you have timed that any better?
.....and as for "not happening again" that is the SECOND time in three weeks you have saved a TEST/N3 fleet with node rempapping |

Just Lilly
99
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:08:00 -
[43] - Quote
Phew!  Powered by Nvidia GTX 690 |

Clith
Tr0pa de elite. Pandemic Legion
108
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:08:00 -
[44] - Quote
nomadpls |

Tira'tai
Jelly Baby Corporation Fidelas Constans
4
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:08:00 -
[45] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
This is all? "We're sorry"? "Oups, we accidentally prevented the end of the war, won't happen again". You must be joking, right?
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1116
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:08:00 -
[46] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
so you guys were doing your job and over 6 hours still managed to keep the server going and made a human error due to fatigue...
i think people should be thanking ccp that they kept it up for that long...
heck i remember back in 06 a 400 man fight was unheard of. let alone 2100+ There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Hybrid tech I ammo boost |

vice vortex
Silver Guardians Fidelas Constans
74
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:08:00 -
[47] - Quote
fire those engineers |

Darius JOHNSON
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
76
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:08:00 -
[48] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote: will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
Yeah ok. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
152
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:08:00 -
[49] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. It's kinda too late now. TEST won't log back in to finish getting destroyed. How about you arrange to log all of the pilots that were online in that system back in for their log off timers? The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Axhind
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:08:00 -
[50] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
Does that someone just happen to play for test or some of their allies? Seems to be very fortunate "error". When we got jumped by everyone and their dog in Asakai somehow there were no mistakes. But here le oops all of the sudden. |
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Peter Tjordenskiold
94
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:08:00 -
[51] - Quote
JulioClaudio Germanicus wrote:N3 is literally BoB
/this |

The Strawman
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:09:00 -
[52] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
It doesn't matter is Z9PP is accessible again, all of TEST just stayed logged out and we got ****** over. |

Needmore Longcat
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
22
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:09:00 -
[53] - Quote
ahahaha "ccp is working for test"
I thought ccp worked for goons. make up your minds. |

StukaBee
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
78
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:09:00 -
[54] - Quote
colon see see pee colon |

Nario Niminen
Demon-War-Lords Fatal Ascension
5
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:09:00 -
[55] - Quote
https://twitter.com/erlendur/status/352923608315736065
really, a human "TEST" Error? |

Smoking Blunts
ZC Industries Dark Stripes
614
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:09:00 -
[56] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
fu
I was fighting for 6h and your ******** efforts ruin 1000's of peoples work
fu ccp fu OMG when can i get a pic here
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Dabigorangebarge
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:09:00 -
[57] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
And... does this person still have his job? Because if so, you are doing it wrong. |

Rossi Tenmar
Decadence. RAZOR Alliance
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:09:00 -
[58] - Quote
What a major fuckup ... well done CCP |

Schwa Nuts
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:09:00 -
[59] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
Name and shame. |

Luxotor
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
18
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:09:00 -
[60] - Quote
:( THE NIGHT IS DARK AND FULL OF TERRORS! |
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Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
284
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:09:00 -
[61] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
You admit you made a mistake. Now fix it. Where are our carrier kills. |

Shimbei
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:09:00 -
[62] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
Booooo!!!! |

Gheyna
Hoover Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore
92
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:09:00 -
[63] - Quote
THX CCP DOLAN |

CDLoon
Broski North Black Legion.
8
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:09:00 -
[64] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:
It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
Possibly the worst decision CCP has made in a long time. It was one of the best battles in a long time, one of those fights which we pay subs for.
Very disappointed in this turn of events. |

Nektor Toff
Backwater Redux Tactical Narcotics Team
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:09:00 -
[65] - Quote
**** FUCK ****!
I demand a new Boot.ini video as reimbursment! |

Lucky Jasmone
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:09:00 -
[66] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
Right and the fact you just saved over 100 capitals doesnt have any bearing on it?
Its great saying Z9PP is now available but the guys who we screwed and pinned down are now not logging in so therefore you saved them
Nice job CCP,
******* idiots |

pmchem
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
542
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:09:00 -
[67] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
How do multiple people combine to make that mistake? If it was the mistake of just one person, what are his prior connections to corporations/alliances ingame? Why was this change not double checked before the node was remapped?
How can this mistake be made? Why should we trust you -- AT ALL -- that this will not happen again?
Will there be compensation or penalties ingame for the parties involved? @pmchem on twitter || GARPA || Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |

NinjaStyle
hirr RAZOR Alliance
18
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:10:00 -
[68] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
yeah go **** yourself and that's putting it nicely... you know I Was actually starting to think CCP was okay again after that whole aurum bs expansion... but then you know you ******* herp before you derp with the one AMAZING THING ABOUT EVE? OUR GIANT OMFG FIGHTS?
Yes this is very "not nice" but WTF else am I surposed to say? |

Kari Juptris
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
150
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:10:00 -
[69] - Quote
Thanks for the extract, CCP  |

Darthkill
Tetragorn SpaceMonkey's Alliance
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:10:00 -
[70] - Quote
Jumping on the Threadnaught
God damn im so mad |
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BoodaBooda
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
218
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:10:00 -
[71] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
Sorry, it was me, I am the CCP engineer |

Innominate
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
243
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:10:00 -
[72] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote: It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
Except it wasn't, you didn't just "disrupt a fight", you bailed a hundred capitals out of nearly certain death.
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GazBoi08
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:10:00 -
[73] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
*golfclap* |

Stephince
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
3
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:10:00 -
[74] - Quote
Quite simply either one of the worst 'mistakes' made by a software company or a 'most unfortunate' and 'very convenient' incident.
Absolute BS either way. |

Rina Kondur
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
92
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:10:00 -
[75] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
Funny how that completely reset aggro timers too. Great job CCP. Must be emergent gameplay. |

Moira Aletheia
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:10:00 -
[76] - Quote
I hope that this time heads will roll. Fight was going for 5 hours, local was already going down again. No need to touch anything, it was still playable.
Whoever ****** this up, he should look for a job with less responsibility. |

Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
442
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:10:00 -
[77] - Quote
I see alot of whining but I guess you guys forgot about the gifts CCP has already given you early in the war, saved alot of caps that you've wisely kept off the field since then. |

Zer Res
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:10:00 -
[78] - Quote
it took you 7 hours to make this 'fix'? the hell were you doing before hand? watching the mad_ani stream and laughing at the 2,200 nerds stuck in 10% tidi?
pretty shocking stuff, i have to say |

Yuluthu
The Drunken Empire Fatal Ascension
4
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:10:00 -
[79] - Quote
Is pausing aggression timers and cycles for modules really that hard? |

Capqu
Love Squad
127
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:10:00 -
[80] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
are you going to look into the person who did it for potential ties with test?
because i know we all like to joke about ccp alliance please ignore but it's a pretty serious amount of assets that just got saved by "incompetence" http://pizza.eve-kill.net |
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GeeBee
Paragon Fury Tactical Narcotics Team
23
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:10:00 -
[81] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
please fire the dude that made the mistake - also change the mechanics so the loosing side simply doesn't log back in.
K thanks bai |

Radhe Amatin
Caldari High Prime SpaceMonkey's Alliance
19
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:10:00 -
[82] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
so u just saved the whole test cap fleet from total destruction.... it smells fishy !!!! |

ectweak
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:11:00 -
[83] - Quote
So you are going to force everyone that was dumped out, yet had an aggression timer to remain in space (based on normal game mechanics)?
or are you going to go "whoops, we just screwed you all out of the kills you were working on by an "accident" |

Edward Pierce
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
61
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:11:00 -
[84] - Quote
You accidentally saved the entire TEST capital fleet and this is what you have to offer? Our engineer messed up, oops?
Stop boasting how your game features massive player made fleet fights then proceed to crash the server whenever they're going down you idiots.
Half a day logged in here to make this fight happen and you oops one entire side out of it? Go **** yourselves. |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1116
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:11:00 -
[85] - Quote
Aprudena Gist wrote: Its wasnt a mistake it was intentional thats for saving over a trillion isk of ships you idiots.
oh g-d you are over dramatic
There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Hybrid tech I ammo boost |

Eezee Gonozal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
35
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:11:00 -
[86] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
Why aren't server states saved when a node restarts? Will there be an Internal Investigation?
Mad Ani even used this fight as advertising for Eve. Guess that's not very effective if **** like this happens. |

Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:11:00 -
[87] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
We had quite literally 100+ capitals trapped in bubbles and there was no way they were getting out. Based on the numerous scans, we had their battleships outnumbered 3-1 (check out Mad Ani's stream for verification). CCP literally saved 100+ TEST caps... you had 5+ hours to reinforce the node- the numbers were dropping from 2200+ down to 1850 when the node went down. How on earth do you make a decision to reinforce that node after 5+ hours and when local was dropping?
I know multiple CCP staff were watching Mad Ani's feed... |

Mera Kai
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:11:00 -
[88] - Quote
Blawrf McTaggart wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. Take the 117 trapped capitals away from the pilots that were trapped. They were dead and you should recognise this, I think! But yeah this was a mistake on CCP's side, an unfortunate mistake, and people calling ~THREADNOUGHT DEV ALLIANCE PLZ IGNORE~ are dumb
Nomad plz |

Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
1329
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:11:00 -
[89] - Quote
What happened to the aggression timers?
Dual Pane idea: Click!
CCP Please Implement |

Artua Kassiopi
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:11:00 -
[90] - Quote
I hope you all people DO realise that no matter how experienced you are, you are NOT immune to doing mistakes. So at least share some sense of respect to CCP. |
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Leontyne Gaterau
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
52
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:11:00 -
[91] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
Inexcusable, TEST is the new BoB. GG |

Domino Artan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:11:00 -
[92] - Quote
Is there an explanation why those ships weren't still in space as they' were all in aggression when they got dumped from the server?
Or do I simply misunderstand the how it works.
Honest question. |

Needmore Longcat
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
22
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:11:00 -
[93] - Quote
Onictus wrote:Someone owes me another 150 BS kills and at least 10 caps
Why don't you unsub about it. |

Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore
470
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:11:00 -
[94] - Quote
Something Awfull furries are losing their edge. |

Arkon Olacar
Imperial Guardians Tribal Band
225
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:12:00 -
[95] - Quote
What is this, a CFC posting CTA? "The rest will be in the blog rather than invented at the keyboards of forum posters and bloggers." -á-á-á-á-á-á-á - CCP Sreegs, 23/06/2012
Umad forum warriors? |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1116
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:12:00 -
[96] - Quote
Kismeteer wrote:
You admit you made a mistake. Now fix it. Where are our carrier kills.
haahhahahahhahahahahha
no seriously hahahha lmao
that was a really good joke There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Hybrid tech I ammo boost |

Devroush
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:12:00 -
[97] - Quote
This would have never happened if CFC wouldn't have brought so many people. |

Camly
Silver Guardians Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:12:00 -
[98] - Quote
i think CCP have a TEST spy engineer . |

Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
1329
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:12:00 -
[99] - Quote
Zagdul wrote:
What happened to the aggression timers?
This is a rhetorical question, but one CCP should be asking internally.
Today was complete and utter bullshit. Dual Pane idea: Click!
CCP Please Implement |

Sulzer Wartzilla
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
12
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:12:00 -
[100] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. The first thing you can do is to fire the people responsible. They clearly don't know what they are doing and should be working as GMs for EA or some ****.
You've been running this game for 10 years, going 'oops' in a 2000-man fight and then just saying you're sorry doesn't cut it any more. |
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Privan Kharolis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:12:00 -
[101] - Quote
Kijo Rikki wrote:I see alot of whining but I guess you guys forgot about the gifts CCP has already given you early in the war, saved alot of caps that you've wisely kept off the field since then.
It saved less than 20 capitals and was due to outside forces, not CCP directly. |

Mcrager
Legio Geminatus Gentlemen's Agreement
7
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:12:00 -
[102] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
If you think that sort of response will fix anything your as much of a fool as the person who remapped the node. Feel free to try again, this time with more "This is how we are going to fix this". |

Nazowa
UK Corp RAZOR Alliance
13
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:12:00 -
[103] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
Umm no, not so easy. We been through this before and various flavours. This is simply unacceptable. Won't be buying a statement that this was an "accident" no Sir. Time and time again this game and this company has been tainted with bad events and this last incident has done nothing to improve CCP's image. |

Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
244
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:12:00 -
[104] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
We appreciate the effort of you trying to deal with servers screaming for hours and trying to keep the show rolling. I am sure you will in the interest of fairness have all ships return to their original positions when the server went down? |

Arrgthepirate
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
67
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:12:00 -
[105] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
Just kill everything in that was in the system at the time of the crash and we'll call it even. |

ChYph3r
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
102
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:12:00 -
[106] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
Thats the lamest fking excuse ever..... you just accidentally Z9PP node.....yeah right.....whatever. http://evepodcasts.com PODSIDE Personality @chyph3r-á on Twitter
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Isomerc
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:12:00 -
[107] - Quote
CCP is eve's worst enemy. |

Chris Madison
Tactical Soldiers Nulli Secunda
5
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:12:00 -
[108] - Quote
Nothing like seeing cfc cry like babies.                                                                          Best tears is cfc tears. |

DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
577
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:13:00 -
[109] - Quote
So many angry/tinfoil hat raging Goonies 
/me Licks up tears. Damn nature, you scary! |

DrDan21
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
98
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:13:00 -
[110] - Quote
BoodaBooda wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. Sorry, it was me, I am the CCP engineer
CCP Booda just cost our carrier fleet 300 mega kills |
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Leonard Ashcroft
Repercussus RAZOR Alliance
7
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:13:00 -
[111] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
I always wondered if I was qualified to work for CCP without having an actual degree or experience. Nice to know that I am. Kidding. Please don't send me to prison for 8 years. |

Hawkspur Firestarter
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
10
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:13:00 -
[112] - Quote
YEAH! CFC capitals have never, ever been saved by node shenanigans before!
...oh. They saved a dread fleet just a few weeks ago in the exact same manner you say? Weird. |

Cor Six
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:13:00 -
[113] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
WORST ******* reply ever. You saved test. Thats all. kick everyone that was involved taking down the node and everyone that was working at the time this happend.
YOu just saved test. Remove all of those 110 carriers from the game or you just yeah... saved test from loosing this war right now. |

Shaun Hansen
Corporation Danmark Tactical Narcotics Team
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:13:00 -
[114] - Quote
Listen Im quite frustrated over this, imho, idiotic breakdown. If you can make Jita run smoothly, and I know what Im talking about, why not get an important fight than this one running?
This fight was going on for a long time and you had plenty of time to get that node up and running.
Im disappointed and somewhat angry  |

The Groundskeeper
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
164
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:13:00 -
[115] - Quote
Look at the crocodile tears without action from CCP. A couple of weeks ago a NYC died after a bugged jump animation lasted for 15 minutes. The logs showed nothing. This time test have a hundred capitals dying and someone just happens to save them from CCP.
So what are you going to do about it CCP? Hold your hands up and say "lol guys sorry you know how incompetent we are whoopsie us"?!? |

Sarah Nahrnid
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
9
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:13:00 -
[116] - Quote
BoodaBooda wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. Sorry, it was me, I am the CCP engineer
Booda sends his regards |

Sala Kyss
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
71
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:13:00 -
[117] - Quote
Confirming TEST is CCP
Coz this is only the first time our ***** been saved by servers crashing, not the 5th time, right CFC? |

Jafit McJafitson
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
369
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:13:00 -
[118] - Quote
CFC are filthy blobbers. We had to use spies and metagame in order to save us from being unable to defeat them ingame. Why would CFC be upset by this kind of tactic? |

Semaj Tnegun
nul-li-fy Nulli Secunda
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:13:00 -
[119] - Quote
Goon tears best tears |

Ayures
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
6
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:13:00 -
[120] - Quote
Hawkspur Firestarter wrote:YEAH! CFC capitals have never, ever been saved by node shenanigans before!
...oh. They saved a dread fleet just a few weeks ago in the exact same manner you say? Weird.
|
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xXchochiXx
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
20
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:13:00 -
[121] - Quote
lol this is aload of Rubbish we had poor battle conditions for like 6hours why when its ending do you try to make it better and accidently reset node or break it?
THIS HAS SAVED TEST BEFORE? FUNNY THAT |

OHMYGODILOVEKFC O-BAMA
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:13:00 -
[122] - Quote
I HAD MY FAT ASS 7 HOURS STRAIGHT IN THE GAME FIGHTING INSTEAD OF GOING AWAY AND HAVE SEX OR SOMETHING
THIS IS NOT FUN CCP
|

Needmore Longcat
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
21
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:13:00 -
[123] - Quote
Sulzer Wartzilla wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. The first thing you can do is to fire the people responsible. They clearly don't know what they are doing and should be working as GMs for EA or some ****. You've been running this game for 10 years, going 'oops' in a 2000-man fight and then just saying you're sorry doesn't cut it any more.
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |

The Djentleman Paulson
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
125
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:14:00 -
[124] - Quote
UR SO FIRED LOL |

DarkSim Market
Gangnam Style.
23
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:14:00 -
[125] - Quote
HAVE FUN SHOOTING SBUS IN FRIGATES AGAIN FOR 10 HOURS A DAY GOONS.
lol kids. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3761
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:14:00 -
[126] - Quote
The Groundskeeper wrote:Look at the crocodile tears without action from CCP. A couple of weeks ago a NYC died after a bugged jump animation lasted for 15 minutes. The logs showed nothing. This time test have a hundred capitals dying and someone just happens to save them from CCP.
So what are you going to do about it CCP? Hold your hands up and say "lol guys sorry you know how incompetent we are whoopsie us"?!? Isn't that basically what is happening? dwi, :condi:, :supaburn: There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Sirane Elrek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
174
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:14:00 -
[127] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:[quote=Shamata]The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. Who the **** cares about Z9PP being back online, the fight isn't going to come back from that |

Vahl Ahashion
Risk Breakers Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:14:00 -
[128] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
It wont happen again is unacceptable, particularly when this is the second time its happened in this war alone. |

Roxy Jovovich
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:14:00 -
[129] - Quote
**** YOU CCP **** YOU |

Daktar Jaxs
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
27
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:14:00 -
[130] - Quote
I don't see an announcement saying that the cheating employees have been fired yet. Why not? |
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1116
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:14:00 -
[131] - Quote
Zagdul wrote:
What happened to the aggression timers?
they went away.
they did not specify which critical system was removed.
There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Hybrid tech I ammo boost |

Deteint
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:14:00 -
[132] - Quote
Capqu wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. are you going to look into the person who did it for potential ties with test? because i know we all like to joke about ccp alliance please ignore but it's a pretty serious amount of assets that just got saved by "incompetence"
The tinfoil hat is strong with this one. |

Butt Bot
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:14:00 -
[133] - Quote
Semaj Tnegun wrote:Butt tears best tears
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tom trade valine
Imperium Technologies Get Off My Lawn
6
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:15:00 -
[134] - Quote
In a fight for hrs on end and this ccp, usually is better then this but seems like there saving test on this one and there cap fleet. |

Varathius
The Eden Trading International Corporation Gentlemen's Agreement
32
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:15:00 -
[135] - Quote
CCP, you had five hours, yes five hours to sort your stuff.
Please take better care of people in big fleet fights in null sec in the future. Eve is not only happening in Jita. |

mustangsally31
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
20
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:15:00 -
[136] - Quote
a bloo blooo Gewnies why dont you log on your supercaps to take Fountain cowards |

Radhe Amatin
Caldari High Prime SpaceMonkey's Alliance
19
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:15:00 -
[137] - Quote
So we can add the CCP as the new alliance that's blue to test...cause it seems like it is. |

Arkon Olacar
Imperial Guardians Tribal Band
225
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:15:00 -
[138] - Quote
Ayures wrote:Hawkspur Firestarter wrote:YEAH! CFC capitals have never, ever been saved by node shenanigans before!
...oh. They saved a dread fleet just a few weeks ago in the exact same manner you say? Weird. And maybe a month ago. And a couple months before that.
"The rest will be in the blog rather than invented at the keyboards of forum posters and bloggers." -á-á-á-á-á-á-á - CCP Sreegs, 23/06/2012
Umad forum warriors? |

Katie Corb
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:15:00 -
[139] - Quote
CCP, look into saving aggression timers after server crashes thanks! :darkelf: |

Arrgthepirate
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
67
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:15:00 -
[140] - Quote
Maybe this is part of the plan by the new EA guy the hired to make us hate CCP. You know, more. CCP is their own worst enemy |
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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
289
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:15:00 -
[141] - Quote
Needmore Longcat wrote:Onictus wrote:Someone owes me another 150 BS kills and at least 10 caps
Why don't you unsub about it.
I got your unsub right here.........log back in. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3761
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:15:00 -
[142] - Quote
xXchochiXx wrote:lol this is aload of Rubbish we had poor battle conditions for like 6hours why when its ending do you try to make it better and accidently reset node or break it?
THIS HAS SAVED TEST BEFORE? FUNNY THAT It's very funny.
I can't wait to read about on... themittani.com (This is newsworthy enough, right?) There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Ar3s1sis
Gladius Veritatis Fidelas Constans
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:15:00 -
[143] - Quote
ALL I CAN SAY IS... **** YOU..NOTHING MORE |

Ltd SpacePig
Exclusion Cartel The Kadeshi
15
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:16:00 -
[144] - Quote
please cry more  |

Zakialwe
The Praxis Initiative Gentlemen's Agreement
7
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:16:00 -
[145] - Quote
TEST must be so gutted...CCP saving the CFC from near certain defeat! |

Alghara
Les chevaliers de l'ordre Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:16:00 -
[146] - Quote
it's a joke CCP.
We make 5 hours at 95% of tidi, and you don't change the nood and when NC.dot PL.And test lost all support. And the tidi decrease you decide to change the node. without your ******* mistake about 100 carrier will be dead
|

Beidorion eldwardan
Corporation Danmark Tactical Narcotics Team
6
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:16:00 -
[147] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
we believe that you're truly sorry when the fool that made the mistake is FIRED !!!!!!!!
we pay for this game and he/she broke your product at its finest. next time you feel like making a "misstake" let it be a time when the CFC is in trouble and not test
fire the server dude that cleaerly has TEST's back
|

digi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
178
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:16:00 -
[148] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
"Oops" -- CCP, 2013
I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it. I'm not so miffed about the actual battle outcome as I am about the knowledge that CCP always manages to poop in the sandbox and that takes away from everything the players strive for.
I do think you should publish a real After Action review and you might want to check in with Internal Affairs too, mainly to cover that base. I won't allege anything but this isn't exactly the first CCP incident. It seems like CCP would have been extra careful not to disturb one of the largest fights it has ever hosted. Weird, not damning (yet) but definitely weird.
Thanks for at least being prompt with us. |

ADMlNlSTRATOR
Hoover Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore
33
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:16:00 -
[149] - Quote
Nom, nom... Hm... tears! So tasty! |

Mekkimaru
Abraxsys Get Off My Lawn
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:16:00 -
[150] - Quote
Only way things will be fixed is if CCP forces their caps in, but that wont happen
ofcourse when this happens to goon, its fine, but god forbid if its anyone other than goons these node crashes happen
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Mike Darillian
107th Suicide Kings Circle-Of-Two
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:16:00 -
[151] - Quote
"Thank you for participating in this epic fleet battle. If you would like to continue, please buy the new Reinforced-Node-access-DLC for just 5$ and jump back into action! Thank you!" |

Jim E Raynor
Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:16:00 -
[152] - Quote
Do goons cry this much on SA too? |

Montolio
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
316
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:16:00 -
[153] - Quote
This is ****** up CCP. I don't care if my side benefited this time, you've been doing **** like this the entire war and messing up the natural course of events for all sides.
You need to have some serious reviews to prevent these problems from impacting the sandbox gameplay you tout as a core feature. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3761
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:16:00 -
[154] - Quote
Arrgthepirate wrote:Maybe this is part of the plan by the new EA guy the hired to make us hate CCP. You know, more. CCP is their own worst enemy This will break our morale. Time to give up guys, there's no way we can beat test since apparently if you are, well There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Bozo duFromage
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:16:00 -
[155] - Quote
Gf CCP |

Butt Bot
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:16:00 -
[156] - Quote
mustangsally31 wrote:a bloo blooo Gewnies why dont you log on your supercaps to take Butt cowards
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Xander Phoena
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
205
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:16:00 -
[157] - Quote
Jesus wept CCP. How the hell could you have messed this up so badly. www.crossingzebras.com |

Razzor Death
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
205
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:16:00 -
[158] - Quote
Opps ? Get ****** |

staafsak
DoubleDutchClan Nulli Secunda
46
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:16:00 -
[159] - Quote
nomad pls |

Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
201
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:17:00 -
[160] - Quote
Blawrf McTaggart wrote:Take the 117 trapped capitals away from the pilots that were trapped. They were dead and you should recognise this, I think! How is Recon V going bro?
I am enjoying all of the tears you are shedding today. It's beautiful. This may be my happiest day in 2 years of playing this game. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |
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Richter Enderas
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
288
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:17:00 -
[161] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
TEST REMAP PLEASE IGNORE |

Brakko Mussua
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:17:00 -
[162] - Quote
TEST REMAP PLEASE IGNORE |

Darth Kilth
Silver Guardians Fidelas Constans
130
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:17:00 -
[163] - Quote
Confirming, CCP engineers are Pro-TESt.
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Harry Obama
Demon-War-Lords Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:17:00 -
[164] - Quote
Simply put
**** YOU CCP
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Staphylococcus Aureus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:17:00 -
[165] - Quote
What a joke, hard to have a sandbox game when CCP pisses in the sand. |

BoodaBooda
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
224
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:17:00 -
[166] - Quote
Alghara wrote:it's a joke CCP.
We make 5 hours at 95% of tidi, and you don't change the nood and when NC.dot PL.And test lost all support. And the tidi decrease you decide to change the node. without your ******* mistake about 100 carrier will be dead
WITHOUT OUR HELP IN WWII, YOU'D BE SPEAKING GERMAN USA USA USA |

Tjirp Eva
Love for You Circle-Of-Two
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:17:00 -
[167] - Quote
I am just sad :( so long preparation. Not just today, the entire war. Finnaly there is a massive battle going on, servers crash :(
For me it was the biggest fight I ever participated in, and I can only hope it will happen again sometime soon.
gf test and friend.
Please make sure this never happens again ccp :)
|

Eli Grange
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
51
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:17:00 -
[168] - Quote
Literally CCP http://youtu.be/NGIALyoZc3o |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3761
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:17:00 -
[169] - Quote
digi wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. "Oops" -- CCP, 2013 I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it. I'm not so miffed about the actual battle outcome as I am about the knowledge that CCP always manages to poop in the sandbox and that takes away from everything the players strive for. I do think you should publish a real After Action review and you might want to check in with Internal Affairs too, mainly to cover that base. I won't allege anything but this isn't exactly the first CCP incident. It seems like CCP would have been extra careful not to disturb one of the largest fights it has ever hosted. Weird, not damning (yet) but definitely weird. Thanks for at least being prompt with us. CCP2013~~
There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Therik
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:17:00 -
[170] - Quote
TEST REMAP PLEASE IGNORE |
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Tira'tai
Jelly Baby Corporation Fidelas Constans
8
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:17:00 -
[171] - Quote
Staphylococcus Aureus wrote:What a joke, hard to have a sandbox game when CCP pisses in the sand.
This. |

Arrgthepirate
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
73
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:17:00 -
[172] - Quote
One day CCP will learn how to manage their game. I eagerly await that day. |

Ayures
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
8
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:17:00 -
[173] - Quote
Beidorion eldwardan wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. we believe that you're truly sorry when the fool that made the mistake is FIRED !!!!!!!! we pay for this game and he/she broke your product at its finest. next time you feel like making a "misstake" let it be a time when the CFC is in trouble and not test fire the server dude that cleaerly has TEST's back
I recommend you unsub until this happens or your butt is no longer sore. |

Kalenn Istarion
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
10
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:17:00 -
[174] - Quote
So let me get this right - you watched a fight crush a node for 6 hours... and then decide to modify the node??
How many failures had to happen for this to be ****** up so badly?
Shouldn't there be multiple layers of approval to move active nodes? Holy ****, give your head a shake. Try Harder. |

Johnathan Severasse
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
2
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:17:00 -
[175] - Quote
Why don't you nerds unsub about it? |

BeePan NOK
Yellow Box Ltd. Gentlemen's Agreement
2
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:18:00 -
[176] - Quote
Amazing how the node broke after long time nearly 4 hours of 10% TIDI and the system reache 2250 in local.... it just crashed in the moment when 90% of the TEST subcaps where Welped and the CAP where about to die.
DO WE REALLY HAVE TO PAY FOR A GAME WHERE THE DEV CAN DECIDE WHO LICE OR DIE? |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3761
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:18:00 -
[177] - Quote
Tjirp Eva wrote:I am just sad :( so long preparation. Not just today, the entire war. Finnaly there is a massive battle going on, servers crash :(
For me it was the biggest fight I ever participated in, and I can only hope it will happen again sometime soon.
gf test and friend.
Please make sure this never happens again ccp :) TEST will have to be extra-careful now. The next time they're in a pinch, they might not be ~so lucky~ There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

hobo deluxe
Hephaestus LLC Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:18:00 -
[178] - Quote
LOUD NOISES!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTRSmjUfYrs |

Shea La'Tal
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:18:00 -
[179] - Quote
Saving goon subcap fleets again, shame on you CCP!
TEST nomadplz, we'll get them again next time |

paik
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
35
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:18:00 -
[180] - Quote
CCP: TEST REMAP PLEASE IGNORE |
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Razzor Death
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
205
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:18:00 -
[181] - Quote
Oh damn watching Test try to spin a win out of saving the rest of their caps is embarrassing as **** |

Zer Res
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:18:00 -
[182] - Quote
for 7 hours you did nothing
then you decide to fix the server by crashing it
i don't even |

KVJ
These are not the droids you're looking for
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:18:00 -
[183] - Quote
7/4: Never forget! |

Raikia Nardieu
Fractional Hazard Abandon Ships
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:18:00 -
[184] - Quote
You guys are seriously butthurt about this. Stop getting pissed at CCP for this. Mistakes happen. They created this great game that you play and enjoy. You will have another fight soon enough. |

Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda
899
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:18:00 -
[185] - Quote
i love how you think you would have killed more than 100 slowcats without bringing supers We are recruiting german-speaking PVP players, contact me :)
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The Groundskeeper
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
164
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:18:00 -
[186] - Quote
DrDan21 wrote:BoodaBooda wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. Sorry, it was me, I am the CCP engineer CCP Booda just cost our carrier fleet 300 mega kills
Log in and try. |

Imodesky Kafelnikov
Tr0pa de elite. Pandemic Legion
13
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:18:00 -
[187] - Quote
******* CCP!!! Always siding with GEWNS!!! We had them!
Yet again the Mittens pulls strings to get Devs to help him in a pinch. |

Vectara Lock
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:18:00 -
[188] - Quote
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/532/717/e23.gif |

Luke Eskar
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
32
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:18:00 -
[189] - Quote
i think CCP should just destroy every ship that is logged off in that system This is bob. Copy and paste him so he can take over the eve forums. Gÿ+/ /Gûî /n++ \ |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1117
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:18:00 -
[190] - Quote
Daktar Jaxs wrote:I don't see an announcement saying that the cheating employees have been fired yet. Why not?
same reason you did not about ccp diagoras in summer 2012. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Hybrid tech I ammo boost |
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Angella Mitchell
Les chevaliers de l'ordre Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:19:00 -
[191] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
You're right, you improved the node stability, but there is no more fight ... |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3761
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:19:00 -
[192] - Quote
BeePan NOK wrote:Amazing how the node broke after long time nearly 4 hours of 10% TIDI and the system reache 2250 in local.... it just crashed in the moment when 90% of the TEST subcaps where Welped and the CAP where about to die.
DO WE REALLY HAVE TO PAY FOR A GAME WHERE THE DEV CAN DECIDE WHO LICE OR DIE? Apparently so. If you unsub TEST wins.
There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

William Westmere
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
15
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:19:00 -
[193] - Quote
TEST REMAP PLEASE IGNORE
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Zee Wolf
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:19:00 -
[194] - Quote
Yeah i am sure this was a mistake. |

Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1567
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:19:00 -
[195] - Quote
Montolio wrote:This is ****** up CCP. I don't care if my side benefited this time, you've been doing **** like this the entire war and messing up the natural course of events for all sides.
You need to have some serious reviews to prevent these problems from impacting the sandbox gameplay you tout as a core feature.
I really hope you're being sincere for once |

Hawkspur Firestarter
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
15
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:19:00 -
[196] - Quote
Pretty yummy tears. Right in the morale |

Daktar Jaxs
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:19:00 -
[197] - Quote
Ltd SpacePig wrote:please cry more 
You're smugging about cheating. You are coming to a game's official forum and saying we have dev cheating for us, yeeehaaa |

knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
246
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:19:00 -
[198] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
that is a pretty lame excuse. We've been having massive battles in the same systems for weeks now, there is just no excuse as to why they're not reinforced already.
|

Ayures
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
8
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:19:00 -
[199] - Quote
Razzor Death wrote:Oh damn watching Test try to spin a win out of saving the rest of their caps is embarrassing as ****
Whoa, there. You know full well that the CFC was about to be wiped out of the system until the node crashed. |

Archeras Umangiar
Balkan Mafia Circle-Of-Two
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:19:00 -
[200] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. Realy good job, May i ask how my alt poped without leaving ANY single killmail? oh wait beside that why is my main character in half structure without having any armor damage (i didnt got any armor reps since the server was down)
STATEMENT! NOW! |
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Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore
481
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:19:00 -
[201] - Quote
CFC Capital fleet gets saved by a boo boo 3 or 4 times, TEST grumbles and gets on with their lives.
TEST Capital fleet gets saved by a boo boo, and the SA Furries and their pets go on a Posting CTA.
|

Danny Calamity
TunnelSnakes Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:19:00 -
[202] - Quote
Blawrf McTaggart wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. Take the 117 trapped capitals away from the pilots that were trapped. They were dead and you should recognise this, I think! But yeah this was a mistake on CCP's side, an unfortunate mistake, and people calling ~THREADNOUGHT DEV ALLIANCE PLZ IGNORE~ are dumb
You mad about losing Recon V? We had you guys right where we wanted you. |

Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
1336
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:19:00 -
[203] - Quote
Draghkar wrote:https://twitter.com/erlendur/status/352923608315736065
Human error guys, honest mistake that saved an entire cap fleet.
Oh, well. When you put it like that. I guess everything is alright.
Their bad.
Realpost: This failure is something that has infuriated quite a few hard working FC's and logisticians who worked HOURS on that engagement.
Thousands, literally thousands, of pilots cheated of the greatest fight of this war so far.
The person who hit that button just ruined everything this game is built up to be for so many people.
Not to mention the people who have been watching this war. This isn't a win for either side.
The people who won today... CCP, they still have my money.
I feel robbed. Dual Pane idea: Click!
CCP Please Implement |

Aprudena Gist
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
51
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:20:00 -
[204] - Quote
Angella Mitchell wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. You're right, you improved the node stability, but there is no more fight ... No they didnt the node is worse off then it was then when we were fighting ccp ****** us. |

Dabigorangebarge
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:20:00 -
[205] - Quote
knobber Jobbler wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:[quote=Shamata]CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
I want this guy's pink slip. In this thread. Right Now. |

Aluco Strix
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:20:00 -
[206] - Quote
BLUEBALL LEVEL: BOSS TIER |

GRIEV3R
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
28
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:20:00 -
[207] - Quote
In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. |

Radhe Amatin
Caldari High Prime SpaceMonkey's Alliance
20
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:20:00 -
[208] - Quote
CCP just destroy those ships that are logged.... need to do something to pay for your own screw ups!!!!!
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The Slayer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
69
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:20:00 -
[209] - Quote
Montolio wrote:This is ****** up CCP. I don't care if my side benefited this time, you've been doing **** like this the entire war and messing up the natural course of events for all sides.
You need to have some serious reviews to prevent these problems from impacting the sandbox gameplay you tout as a core feature.
Props to the one test guy I expected to be crowing the loudest for understanding this could have happened to either of us. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3761
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:20:00 -
[210] - Quote
Daktar Jaxs wrote:Ltd SpacePig wrote:please cry more  You're smugging about cheating. You are coming to a game's official forum and saying we have dev cheating for us, yeeehaaa If you can get away with it There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |
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Tira'tai
Jelly Baby Corporation Fidelas Constans
8
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:21:00 -
[211] - Quote
It's not even about that it happened. It's about that all the ******* ships should've been back in space with agression timers after it came back up. |

Arckeuss
Les chevaliers de l'ordre Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:21:00 -
[212] - Quote
are the server engineers fired?
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Cordata Jomar
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:21:00 -
[213] - Quote
Hawkspur Firestarter wrote:Cordata Jomar wrote:Just like to say I'm angry and flipping tables. My mega was alive when the node went down thanks to armour/speed/transversal. I log in to find it dead. ~thank you~  You were the dreadnaught primary for 10 minutes. You died but were bugged. Guns were cycling and not using ammo.
Welp, either you guys killed me just as the server went down and my game shut down before yours, or the server bugged. I didn't find myself dead until I logged back in.
Before the crash I was still flying, taking damage, and fighting, taking little bits of damage from of your guys sentries, and dodging fire from the dreads (while within about 30km of all your BS). That continued right up until the second the server kicked me.
Bit annoyed that I got killed without seeing it/being able to respond.
Cool that I survived 10 mins, but still  |

Baali Tekitsu
Herrscher der Zeit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:21:00 -
[214] - Quote
Archeras Umangiar wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. Realy good job, May i ask how my alt poped without leaving ANY single killmail? oh wait beside that why is my main character in half structure without having any armor damage (i didnt got any armor reps since the server was down) STATEMENT! NOW!
*magix* |

DelightSucker
Epeen Moving company X13 Alliance
74
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:21:00 -
[215] - Quote
GG :D |

ciphus21
Tribal Band Industrial Leadership Devision
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:21:00 -
[216] - Quote
you CFC ...
your tears are delicious :P
CFC tears |

CALUGARU
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
20
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:21:00 -
[217] - Quote
CCP Dev: "We want to improve player experience" *Shuts down system"
Experience Improved. A+ job u jelleh |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3761
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:21:00 -
[218] - Quote
Zagdul wrote:Draghkar wrote:https://twitter.com/erlendur/status/352923608315736065
Human error guys, honest mistake that saved an entire cap fleet. Oh, well. When you put it like that. I guess everything is alright. Their bad. Realpost: This failure is something that has infuriated quite a few hard working FC's and logisticians who worked HOURS on that engagement. Thousands, literally thousands, of pilots cheated of the greatest fight of this war so far. The person who hit that button just ruined everything this game is built up to be for so many people. Not to mention the people who have been watching this war. This isn't a win for either side. The people who won today... CCP, they still have my money. CCP has all our moneys.
There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
1336
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:21:00 -
[219] - Quote
GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP.
This. Dual Pane idea: Click!
CCP Please Implement |

cleeboy
Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement
5
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:21:00 -
[220] - Quote
TEST REMAP PLEASE IGNORE |
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Harrkonen Dune
Strange Energy Gentlemen's Agreement
2
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:22:00 -
[221] - Quote
As a professional company your pitiful explanation is woefully inadequate, and unacceptable.
A very important battle which could have turned the tide has been voided by your complete incompetence.
If you wish to come out of this debacle with any sort of face you must make it right, and it is not down to the EVE community to give you the solution to the mess you've made.
You must make it right. |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
289
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:22:00 -
[222] - Quote
Tira'tai wrote:It's not even about that it happened. It's about that all the ******* ships should've been back in space with agression timers after it came back up.
This.
Where are those carriers because they sure as **** weren't on scan
|

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3761
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:22:00 -
[223] - Quote
Cordata Jomar wrote:Hawkspur Firestarter wrote:Cordata Jomar wrote:Just like to say I'm angry and flipping tables. My mega was alive when the node went down thanks to armour/speed/transversal. I log in to find it dead. ~thank you~  You were the dreadnaught primary for 10 minutes. You died but were bugged. Guns were cycling and not using ammo. Welp, either you guys killed me just as the server went down and my game shut down before yours, or the server bugged. I didn't find myself dead until I logged back in. Before the crash I was still flying, taking damage, and fighting, taking little bits of damage from of your guys sentries, and dodging fire from the dreads (while within about 30km of all your BS). That continued right up until the second the server kicked me. Bit annoyed that I got killed without seeing it/being able to respond. Cool that I survived 10 mins, but still  Too bad you weren't on your test spy alt in a carrier There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Madlof Chev
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
211
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:22:00 -
[224] - Quote
Montolio wrote:This is ****** up CCP. I don't care if my side benefited this time, you've been doing **** like this the entire war and messing up the natural course of events for all sides.
You need to have some serious reviews to prevent these problems from impacting the sandbox gameplay you tout as a core feature.
^ this, this is the latest in a series of fights you've ruined by taking the server down unexpectedly |

skyppye
SHUN THE NON BELIEVER Li3 Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:22:00 -
[225] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
"Sorry for that" just won't do for me. I don't care if it's a CCP employee making a mistake, a dev that wanted to save test or a mouse chewing on your cables, I expect more than "sorry won't happen again". Or maybe you don't need the 2000 players you just ****** over? |

BoodaBooda
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
224
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:22:00 -
[226] - Quote
IN THA WORDS OF MY MAN YE
JE SUS WALKS WITH ME |

OliverJames
Young Enterprise
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:22:00 -
[227] - Quote
poor goons and their pets, cry me a river boo hoo |

Tom Fortross
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:22:00 -
[228] - Quote
I'm getting that Harpy I lost being bombed in the middle of a system transfer back, right? I mean, since you can't be damaged in system-to-system jumps?
Since, y'know, you were nice enough to save TEST. |

Jacob Kelbrand
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
27
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:22:00 -
[229] - Quote
Just reinforce the entirety of northen fountain and be done with it.
|

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1117
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:22:00 -
[230] - Quote
Zagdul wrote:Draghkar wrote:https://twitter.com/erlendur/status/352923608315736065
Human error guys, honest mistake that saved an entire cap fleet. Oh, well. When you put it like that. I guess everything is alright. Their bad. Realpost: This failure is something that has infuriated quite a few hard working FC's and logisticians who worked HOURS on that engagement. Thousands, literally thousands, of pilots cheated of the greatest fight of this war so far. The person who hit that button just ruined everything this game is built up to be for so many people. Not to mention the people who have been watching this war. This isn't a win for either side. The people who won today... CCP, they still have my money. I feel robbed.
something tells me you are mad.
your post reads like a miner getting ganked back in hulkageddon
hehehe they ruined your game but high sec missions were fine.
ccp turned into goons... There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Hybrid tech I ammo boost |
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Tu'yak Marowshay
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
40
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:22:00 -
[231] - Quote
Don't be mad goonietoonies, we were just waiting for you to jump in the huge cap fleet you have. But alas, yet another day goes by where not a single ******* attached to a goon was seen :(
Guess it is back to grinding structures in - bombers? |

snorri vidal
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:23:00 -
[232] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
+Petta er n+¦ bara l+¬legasta afs+¦kun sem +¬g hef heyrt... |

Jafit McJafitson
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
371
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:23:00 -
[233] - Quote
Here you go CFC
http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/bulk-tin-foil.html |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3761
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:23:00 -
[234] - Quote
Harrkonen Dune wrote:As a professional company your pitiful explanation is woefully inadequate, and unacceptable.
A very important battle which could have turned the tide has been voided by your complete incompetence.
If you wish to come out of this debacle with any sort of face you must make it right, and it is not down to the EVE community to give you the solution to the mess you've made.
You must make it right. Haha that will never happen. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Arrgthepirate
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
73
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:23:00 -
[235] - Quote
GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP.
|

Yumis
Reikoku The Retirement Club
2
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:23:00 -
[236] - Quote
Who would have thought that engineers are people and all people make mistakes...
What is important is how CCP will learn from this and I will bet isk that they will automate this process in future. |

Hesod Adee
Turalyon Plus
35
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:23:00 -
[237] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
Will you be implementing any changes to prevent this from happening again ?
For example, adding some code so that the system using the most resources can not be moved from its current node. |

Nethras
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
39
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:23:00 -
[238] - Quote
Downtime doesn't remove ships from space or reset aggro timers, but node remapping does? Look, EVE PvE has never been a strength, the only thing that remotely matches server mechanics during fights in importance is the economy, and you **** it up this bad?
Why does this function differently than downtime? Why is it possible to "accidentally" do this without a warning that you're doing it to an extremely full system? Why the hell are you trying to excuse saving hundreds of billions of isk, if not over a trillion, with an "oops"?
There's a reason that critical functions are normally engineered with multiple checks and failsafes, because human error always DOES exist, which is why it's completely ******* inexcusable that CCP has nothing in place to mitigate that possibility here. "We'll make sure this won't happen again" isn't sufficient, fix how it was even possible to begin with, and fix it on multiple levels. |

Arkon Olacar
Imperial Guardians Tribal Band
227
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:23:00 -
[239] - Quote
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:CFC Capital fleet gets saved by a boo boo 3 or 4 times, TEST grumbles and gets on with their lives.
TEST Capital fleet gets saved by a boo boo, and the SA Furries and their pets go on a Posting CTA.
"The rest will be in the blog rather than invented at the keyboards of forum posters and bloggers." -á-á-á-á-á-á-á - CCP Sreegs, 23/06/2012
Umad forum warriors? |

md5oogle
Origin. Black Legion.
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:23:00 -
[240] - Quote
Way to kill **** CCP. Not only do you totally kill a 6hr fight, you do it live in front of 5000 streamers. Great PR.
Next time, maybe just leave **** alone.. Would rather have some lag then you guy's always wrecking ****. |
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Ayures
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
8
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:24:00 -
[241] - Quote
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:CFC Capital fleet gets saved by a boo boo 3 or 4 times, TEST grumbles and gets on with their lives.
TEST Capital fleet gets saved by a boo boo, and the SA Furries and their pets go on a Posting CTA.
|

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3761
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:24:00 -
[242] - Quote
Onictus wrote:Tira'tai wrote:It's not even about that it happened. It's about that all the ******* ships should've been back in space with agression timers after it came back up. This. Where are those carriers because they sure as **** weren't on scan Magic happens such that the server apparently forgets about the ships since that isn't stored when the node is remapped I suppose. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Needmore Longcat
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
29
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:24:00 -
[243] - Quote
Arkon Olacar wrote:What is this, a CFC posting CTA?
everyone make sure and check in on the participation board. have to see who's carrying their weight.
also, 100% forum karma taxes during this op. |

Hawkspur Firestarter
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
15
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:24:00 -
[244] - Quote
Cordata Jomar wrote:Hawkspur Firestarter wrote:Cordata Jomar wrote:Just like to say I'm angry and flipping tables. My mega was alive when the node went down thanks to armour/speed/transversal. I log in to find it dead. ~thank you~  You were the dreadnaught primary for 10 minutes. You died but were bugged. Guns were cycling and not using ammo. Welp, either you guys killed me just as the server went down and my game shut down before yours, or the server bugged. I didn't find myself dead until I logged back in. Before the crash I was still flying, taking damage, and fighting, taking little bits of damage from of your guys sentries, and dodging fire from the dreads (while within about 30km of all your BS). That continued right up until the second the server kicked me. Bit annoyed that I got killed without seeing it/being able to respond. Cool that I survived 10 mins, but still 
10 minutes in 10 percent tidi = 1 minute
You got two cycled and we switched targets when your armor stopped moving and our guns stopped using ammo. This was well before the node crash |

Traderjohn
Macabre Votum Northern Coalition.
5
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:24:00 -
[245] - Quote
This could have happened to anyone and gone either way. Sorry to goons but either way it was a fun fight up until that point. Also we need less tidi in future events and fights such as this.
TJ |

Jasp3r
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
9
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:24:00 -
[246] - Quote
Poor engineer.. we've all screwed up at some point in IT and disrupted services for users. If you've not screwed up you've just not been doing it for long enough. Long hours and late nights are usually the reason.
I'm interested in the change control process though and was the engineer performing the migrations alone while on-call? Do multiple people need to confirm an action before it is performed on a production node? Are there any improvements to processes that can be implemented?
|

Jannarious White
Jolly Codgers Get Off My Lawn
16
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:24:00 -
[247] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
This battle is truly epic in the history of EVE because it was the first time that a CPP actively affected the outcome of a pivotal battle in null security space. It is unfortunate that "human error" was the cause, but what is CCP going to do to try to correct this mistake and try to reconcile the actions that were taking place in space when the node was terminated? |

Arrgthepirate
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
73
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:24:00 -
[248] - Quote
Yumis wrote:Who would have thought that engineers are people and all people make mistakes...
What is important is how CCP will learn from this and I will bet isk that they will automate this process in future.
CCP can't even figure out how they programed POS what makes you think they can figure out how to automate something as delicate and complex as server management? |

Darth Kilth
Silver Guardians Fidelas Constans
130
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:24:00 -
[249] - Quote
Before Node crash:
TEST: **** THIS, WE'RE LOSING ALL OUR CARRIERS 
Node Crashes
CCP: Oops, sorry.
TEST: AWW YEAH, **** GOONS HAHAHAHAHA. |

Axhind
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
26
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:24:00 -
[250] - Quote
So awesome. Waiting for escalation for 5 hours and then CCP fucks it all up. So much for epic fights and escalations. When test and co **** up CCP comes running. |
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Terre Gattes
Predators Clan
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:24:00 -
[251] - Quote
YOU THINK GOONS ARE THE ONLY ONE HAVE SPIES IN SO MANY ALLIANCES, WELL TET HAVE SPIES IN CCP, AND IF FIGHT GOES LIKE THAT, OPS NODES OFF..... BYE BYE CFC..    |

Voyan Ageri
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
13
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:24:00 -
[252] - Quote
Ayures wrote:Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:CFC Capital fleet gets saved by a boo boo 3 or 4 times, TEST grumbles and gets on with their lives.
TEST Capital fleet gets saved by a boo boo, and the SA Furries and their pets go on a Posting CTA.
No disrespect to our SergalJerk allies of course <3~ |

Ju'Kan
Serene Vendetta Li3 Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:24:00 -
[253] - Quote
Zagdul wrote:GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. This.
That. |

Lexia Stone
Soul Snatchers WHY so Seri0Us
4
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:24:00 -
[254] - Quote
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha |

Grarr Dexx
Snuff Box Urine Alliance
200
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:24:00 -
[255] - Quote
Aprudena Gist wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. Its wasnt a mistake it was intentional thats for saving over a trillion isk of ships you idiots.
butthurt |

Hawkspur Firestarter
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
15
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:25:00 -
[256] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Onictus wrote:Tira'tai wrote:It's not even about that it happened. It's about that all the ******* ships should've been back in space with agression timers after it came back up. This. Where are those carriers because they sure as **** weren't on scan Magic happens such that the server apparently forgets about the ships since that isn't stored when the node is remapped I suppose.
The same thing happened to CFC dreads. Aggression is not stored following a node crash or remap. It is not a new thing. |

Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team
1064
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:25:00 -
[257] - Quote
I'm now, not upset for missing this fleet... I'm currently taking bets on the following: - CCP Games becomes EA Games' property. - EVE Online will have Microtranctions everywhere. |

jin ko82
Havoc Violence and Chaos The Retirement Club
18
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:25:00 -
[258] - Quote
stfu you guys were gunna get raped by 401k anyway...you always do..... |

Lexia Stone
Soul Snatchers WHY so Seri0Us
4
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:25:00 -
[259] - Quote
Lexia Stone wrote:hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Crakachunky
Demon-War-Lords Fatal Ascension
10
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:25:00 -
[260] - Quote
god damn ******* furious, just wasted a whole afternoon |
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Berdennol
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:25:00 -
[261] - Quote
Feed me your precious nutrients |

Naridan Vanax
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:25:00 -
[262] - Quote
what is the point of all this? if i was a player in the test aliance i would be just us mad that some thing like this could happen. its point blank cheating and takes away all the meaning of gaming and what comes with it. we the player dont need this kind of intervention other ways we would be playing some cheap f2p and buying our uber itams so we could pown for pur money.
will all the goon ships be restored? or the game reseted to the time before the battle started? and what will happen to the ships test didnt loose? becouse if they get to keep them its like CCP giving ingame cash to this group and an advantage where there should be non.
the best solution for now i think is to make a monster fleet and start jumping from system to system make ich server grid crash. remember not all systems are equipep or capped so that they can hold more than 1500 players some are small trade hubbs and are made to hold 2000 jita is closed att that stage. lets make the game crash =)
oh and forgive my engrish plris =P |

Tore Vest
324
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:25:00 -
[263] - Quote
Well.... CCP saved goons dread flett.... CCP saved TEST carrier fleet.... I guess you are eaven now...  No troll. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3763
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:25:00 -
[264] - Quote
md5oogle wrote:Way to kill **** CCP. Not only do you totally kill a 6hr fight, you do it live in front of 5000 streamers. Great PR.
Next time, maybe just leave **** alone.. Would rather have some lag then you guy's always wrecking ****. Not happening. Stay course. Logs don't show anything. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Staphylococcus Aureus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:25:00 -
[265] - Quote
GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP.
this needs to be answered.
|

Fear lancer
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:25:00 -
[266] - Quote
There seems to be alot of controversy about CCP taking sides on this...I dont recall this happening during the Asaki fight why would it happen here...There was alot more going on during that battle and the implication of supers so why would a battle like this mess up a node ? CCP I really hope you arent taking sides just because you have employees in the alliances or because you have a stronger relationship with players in certain alliances. I believe that you ruined alot of peoples experience especially those who were new to the game and then experienced the back draft of the "node crash". I dont have anything against you but i know alot of people will after the events today and alot of other people who join looking for a decent and fair game ( as far as the company controlling the game, not the mechanics and the sandbox its based around ), and experience all of the commentary and negative feed back. You better get your act together and fix things that dont have to be fixed on the dot, during down time. You pissed of ALOT, and i mean ALOT of people. |

Zer Res
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:25:00 -
[267] - Quote
why were the carriers not there when we logged back in? |

mustangsally31
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
23
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:26:00 -
[268] - Quote
MICHEAL BOLTON THE 3RD DREDDIT HERO AND SLAYER OF A BLOO BLOO GEWNIES SENDS HIS REGARDS |

Varesk
Origin. Black Legion.
425
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:26:00 -
[269] - Quote
all the TEST people in here talking about goon tears and crap. I saw CFC log back in after the remap. I didnt see your carriers/dreads and bs that were trapped in the bubbles log back in. Talk all the **** you want, but in the end everyone knows that you didnt log back in. |

SanDooD
Killing is Business Get Off My Lawn
2
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:26:00 -
[270] - Quote
CCP here should do what any other gaming company would do: - Roll back the node state to before shutdown occured - Force log in all the players who were on the field at the time before shut down - Kick off log off timers
There is no excuse or words that CCP can say about this. Battle has been going on for 5-6 hours, in tidi yes, but node was stable, UNTIL a CCP employee decides to shut down the node and end the battle that could have been a decisive blow to TEST and friends.
Sorry is not the way to handle the situation. I don't know what you can do to make up for this, but this looks more to me like intentional action than a human error. |
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Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore
484
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:26:00 -
[271] - Quote
Yumis wrote:Who would have thought that engineers are people and all people make mistakes...
What is important is how CCP will learn from this and I will bet isk that they will automate this process in future.
Meight, the CFC is on a Posting CTA, and you expect logic? What are you smoking? Can I have some? |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
291
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:26:00 -
[272] - Quote
Needmore Longcat wrote:Arkon Olacar wrote:What is this, a CFC posting CTA? everyone make sure and check in on the participation board. have to see who's carrying their weight. also, 100% forum karma taxes during this op.
CTA People were begging for reinforcement fleets to get in on the carnage you guys had been getting served since noon EST
|

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2987
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:26:00 -
[273] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
Don't worry, Phantom. When highsec is done burning nullsec and turning it into one big mining and small scale PVP belt, this kind of thing won't happen any more.
So don't worry, we got this.  |

Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
1343
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:26:00 -
[274] - Quote
Nethras wrote:Downtime doesn't remove ships from space or reset aggro timers, but node remapping does? Look, EVE PvE has never been a strength, the only thing that remotely matches server mechanics during fights in importance is the economy, and you **** it up this bad?
Why does this function differently than downtime? Why is it possible to "accidentally" do this without a warning that you're doing it to an extremely full system? Why the hell are you trying to excuse saving hundreds of billions of isk, if not over a trillion, with an "oops"?
There's a reason that critical functions are normally engineered with multiple checks and failsafes, because human error always DOES exist, which is why it's completely ******* inexcusable that CCP has nothing in place to mitigate that possibility here. "We'll make sure this won't happen again" isn't sufficient, fix how it was even possible to begin with, and fix it on multiple levels.
I don't like empty quotes. Dual Pane idea: Click!
CCP Please Implement |

Nyssah
Ballz Deep operations WHY so Seri0Us
10
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:26:00 -
[275] - Quote
Thanks CCP - We knew we could count on you. <3 |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3763
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:26:00 -
[276] - Quote
Naridan Vanax wrote:what is the point of all this? if i was a player in the test aliance i would be just us mad that some thing like this could happen. its point blank cheating and takes away all the meaning of gaming and what comes with it. we the player dont need this kind of intervention other ways we would be playing some cheap f2p and buying our uber itams so we could pown for pur money.
will all the goon ships be restored? or the game reseted to the time before the battle started? and what will happen to the ships test didnt loose? becouse if they get to keep them its like CCP giving ingame cash to this group and an advantage where there should be non.
the best solution for now i think is to make a monster fleet and start jumping from system to system make ich server grid crash. remember not all systems are equipep or capped so that they can hold more than 1500 players some are small trade hubbs and are made to hold 2000 jita is closed att that stage. lets make the game crash =)
oh and forgive my engrish plris =P No, no you wouldn't really. Oh, you might pretend to be but not really. Not if you were in your carrier. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Arch Ville
Koa Mai Hoku Nulli Secunda
12
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:26:00 -
[277] - Quote
Apologies accepted CCP. Mistakes happen. |

Leask
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
18
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:26:00 -
[278] - Quote
Given that this is not the first time this has happened I think that a serious investigation is mandatory.
Similar situations happening at peculiarly strategic times for Test (in both cases saving large amounts of supers that under normal circumstances would have been killed) inspires little trust in apologies that CCP has been so quick to publish.
As paying customers we deserve answers. |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1121
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:26:00 -
[279] - Quote
Montolio wrote:This is ****** up CCP. I don't care if my side benefited this time, you've been doing **** like this the entire war and messing up the natural course of events for all sides.
You need to have some serious reviews to prevent these problems from impacting the sandbox gameplay you tout as a core feature.
so in your opinion ccp should do nothing to try and keep the server going and just let it die every time there is a big fight?
yeah good idea there brosef...
There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Hybrid tech I ammo boost |

CDLoon
Broski North Black Legion.
12
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:26:00 -
[280] - Quote
Got to say, I'm enjoying the smug posting from N3 and TEST.
Because getting kicked off the server to save your ships is a victory right ?
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Tira'tai
Jelly Baby Corporation Fidelas Constans
11
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:26:00 -
[281] - Quote
Hawkspur Firestarter wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Onictus wrote:Tira'tai wrote:It's not even about that it happened. It's about that all the ******* ships should've been back in space with agression timers after it came back up. This. Where are those carriers because they sure as **** weren't on scan Magic happens such that the server apparently forgets about the ships since that isn't stored when the node is remapped I suppose. The same thing happened to CFC dreads. Aggression is not stored following a node crash or remap. It is not a new thing.
I don't care who it happens to, it is just insanely stupid. If it was the case for those dreads, then yes they should be dead, too. |

Ayures
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
15
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:26:00 -
[282] - Quote
Staphylococcus Aureus wrote:GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. this needs to be answered.
Probably for the same reason that CFC dreads we had tackled and bubbled weren't still there when we logged back in to blap them and the CFC refused to play. Except that happened multiple times. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1998
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:27:00 -
[283] - Quote
Zer Res wrote:why were the carriers not there when we logged back in? A node reset removes everyone from space. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Baali Tekitsu
Herrscher der Zeit Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:27:00 -
[284] - Quote
CDLoon wrote:Got to say, I'm enjoying the smug posting from N3 and TEST.
Because getting kicked off the server to save your ships is a victory right ?
YES |

Jafit McJafitson
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
375
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:27:00 -
[285] - Quote
It's just a game guys, chill out. |

Gheyna
Hoover Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore
96
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:27:00 -
[286] - Quote
nomad goons, nomad |

Ganon Kogamari
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:27:00 -
[287] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
No worries CCP, everyone makes mistakes! |

Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
204
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:27:00 -
[288] - Quote
Apparently the Mittani is crying in private about how Test is literally Bob.
Mittani tears, BEST EVAR TEARS. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1998
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:27:00 -
[289] - Quote
Good god this thread is an embarrassment. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Lexia Stone
Soul Snatchers WHY so Seri0Us
4
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:27:00 -
[290] - Quote
Lexia Stone wrote:Lexia Stone wrote:hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Nyssah
Ballz Deep operations WHY so Seri0Us
10
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:27:00 -
[291] - Quote
Zer Res wrote:why were the carriers not there when we logged back in?
Game mechanics, learn them =] |

ito kazami
ICE is Coming to EVE Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:28:00 -
[292] - Quote
fisrt , we want a ccp internal affairs investigation , too much N3 / test favouring lately to be coincidence.
2nd , we want those carriers and battleships saved by ccp to be removed from the game
3rd , we want ccp to invest in reliable servers |

Steijn
Quay Industries CAStabouts
338
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:28:00 -
[293] - Quote
switching the wrong node out is basically the same as the titan pilot pressing jump instead of bridge, sh*t happens.
Id wait for the devblog that is undoubtably incoming over this, you cant expect full and concise explanation of who and why at this hour. |

skyppye
SHUN THE NON BELIEVER Li3 Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:28:00 -
[294] - Quote
GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP.
this +1 |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1998
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:28:00 -
[295] - Quote
Stop tinfoiling you idiots jesus christ. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Casius Omega
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:28:00 -
[296] - Quote
GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP.
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Danny Calamity
TunnelSnakes Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:28:00 -
[297] - Quote
skyppye wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. "Sorry for that" just won't do for me. I don't care if it's a CCP employee making a mistake, a dev that wanted to save test or a mouse chewing on your cables, I expect more than "sorry won't happen again". Or maybe you don't need the 2000 players you just ****** over?
You should unsub to show them you mean business. |

Devroush
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:28:00 -
[298] - Quote
CDLoon wrote:Got to say, I'm enjoying the smug posting from N3 and TEST.
Because getting kicked off the server to save your ships is a victory right ?
strategic victory. no fun allowed. |

Ayures
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
15
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:28:00 -
[299] - Quote
Scatim Helicon wrote:Good god this thread is an embarrassment.
u mad? |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1121
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:28:00 -
[300] - Quote
Zagdul wrote:Nethras wrote:Downtime doesn't remove ships from space or reset aggro timers, but node remapping does? Look, EVE PvE has never been a strength, the only thing that remotely matches server mechanics during fights in importance is the economy, and you **** it up this bad?
Why does this function differently than downtime? Why is it possible to "accidentally" do this without a warning that you're doing it to an extremely full system? Why the hell are you trying to excuse saving hundreds of billions of isk, if not over a trillion, with an "oops"?
There's a reason that critical functions are normally engineered with multiple checks and failsafes, because human error always DOES exist, which is why it's completely ******* inexcusable that CCP has nothing in place to mitigate that possibility here. "We'll make sure this won't happen again" isn't sufficient, fix how it was even possible to begin with, and fix it on multiple levels. I don't like empty quotes.
listen a critical system was removed from the node. this was not like downtime... ccp ****** up and did something that removed again a CRITICAL SYSTEM... its assumed this system is CRITICAL... so use your brain and think what really happened. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Hybrid tech I ammo boost |
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Span Elo
EFFECT.
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:29:00 -
[301] - Quote
GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP.
The ships are no longer there when you log back in as the node has been removed from the server therefor it was completely offline, this isn't the same as downtime as that **** doesn't get completely turned off. |

Sirane Elrek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
176
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:29:00 -
[302] - Quote
Zer Res wrote:for 7 hours you did nothing
then you decide to fix the server by crashing it
i don't even to be fair it fixed the tidi |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1121
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:29:00 -
[303] - Quote
ito kazami wrote:fisrt , we want a ccp internal affairs investigation , too much N3 / test favouring lately to be coincidence.
2nd , we want those carriers and battleships saved by ccp to be removed from the game
3rd , we want ccp to invest in reliable servers
hahaha oh hubris. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Hybrid tech I ammo boost |

Nazowa
UK Corp RAZOR Alliance
13
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:29:00 -
[304] - Quote
Zagdul wrote:GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. This.
Would be great to hear a story made up about this. |

Leontyne Gaterau
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
53
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:29:00 -
[305] - Quote
skyppye wrote:GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. this +1
Erlunder = new T20. |

Staphylococcus Aureus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:29:00 -
[306] - Quote
Thanks obama! |

Jafit McJafitson
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
375
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:29:00 -
[307] - Quote
ito kazami wrote:fisrt , we want a ccp internal affairs investigation , too much N3 / test favouring lately to be coincidence.
2nd , we want those carriers and battleships saved by ccp to be removed from the game
3rd , we want ccp to invest in reliable servers
I wish these forums had goon emotes.
:frogout3: |

Moira Aletheia
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:29:00 -
[308] - Quote
I just cannot understand why you would play around with the node when it is still running stable, everything was working and local dropping already.
Whoever had that brilliant idea, i hope you get fired becasue that was one of the most ******** things i've seen someone do in quite a long time.
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Axhind
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
27
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:29:00 -
[309] - Quote
Tore Vest wrote:Well.... CCP saved goons dread flett.... CCP saved TEST carrier fleet.... I guess you are eaven now... 
There is a difference between server crashes by itself and oops we just happened to move the critical process instead of unimportant ones. Oops I ended up on the antarctic instead of bahamas. honest mistake. They all look the same after all. This is ******* bullshit especially since node was getting better and numbers were dropping. |

Imodesky Kafelnikov
Tr0pa de elite. Pandemic Legion
15
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:30:00 -
[310] - Quote
ito kazami wrote:fisrt , we want a ccp internal affairs investigation , too much N3 / test favouring lately to be coincidence.
2nd , we want those carriers and battleships saved by ccp to be removed from the game
3rd , we want ccp to invest in reliable servers
4th, could we get cheese with that?
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Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1567
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:30:00 -
[311] - Quote
Danny Calamity wrote:Blawrf McTaggart wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. Take the 117 trapped capitals away from the pilots that were trapped. They were dead and you should recognise this, I think! But yeah this was a mistake on CCP's side, an unfortunate mistake, and people calling ~THREADNOUGHT DEV ALLIANCE PLZ IGNORE~ are dumb You mad about losing Recon V? We had you guys right where we wanted you.
you're still losing fountain lmao |

Naridan Vanax
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:30:00 -
[312] - Quote
Jafit McJafitson wrote:It's just a game guys, chill out.
its game where poeple spend time and mony and this should not happen. taking sides like that lol |

Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore
484
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:30:00 -
[313] - Quote
ito kazami wrote:too much N3 / test favouring lately to be coincidence.
Holy ****. Of all the Sperging in this thread from all sides, this is the most ******** thing posted.
How many times did your Capitals get saved by the server taking a boo boo again? 4 or 5 times? |

Cordata Jomar
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:30:00 -
[314] - Quote
Hawkspur Firestarter wrote:Cordata Jomar wrote:Hawkspur Firestarter wrote:Cordata Jomar wrote:Just like to say I'm angry and flipping tables. My mega was alive when the node went down thanks to armour/speed/transversal. I log in to find it dead. ~thank you~  You were the dreadnaught primary for 10 minutes. You died but were bugged. Guns were cycling and not using ammo. Welp, either you guys killed me just as the server went down and my game shut down before yours, or the server bugged. I didn't find myself dead until I logged back in. Before the crash I was still flying, taking damage, and fighting, taking little bits of damage from of your guys sentries, and dodging fire from the dreads (while within about 30km of all your BS). That continued right up until the second the server kicked me. Bit annoyed that I got killed without seeing it/being able to respond. Cool that I survived 10 mins, but still  10 minutes in 10 percent tidi = 1 minute You got two cycled and we switched targets when your armor stopped moving and our guns stopped using ammo. This was well before the node crash
Didn't see it happening that way on my screen, which - as you can imagine - makes me all the more irritated that this event happened the way it did. Not saying you're wrong necessarily, just that the fact that it didn't show up on my end is almost worse somehow. I should have at least seen the explosion before the server cut out on me. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3763
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:30:00 -
[315] - Quote
Leontyne Gaterau wrote:skyppye wrote:GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. this +1 Erlunder = new T20. Hush, I'm sure there won't be any leaks to incriminate anyone. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Casius Omega
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:30:00 -
[316] - Quote
HELLCAMP IN FULL EFFECT WHILE EVERTIN GETS REINFORCED |

Arcin Hamir
Sigillum Militum Xpisti Fatal Ascension
2
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:30:00 -
[317] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
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Visione
Black Scorpions Inc Circle-Of-Two
4
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:30:00 -
[318] - Quote
disappointed :( |

Webb Mordock
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:30:00 -
[319] - Quote
cry more goons |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1121
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:31:00 -
[320] - Quote
Moira Aletheia wrote:I just cannot understand why you would play around with the node when it is still running stable, everything was working and local dropping already.
Whoever had that brilliant idea, i hope you get fired becasue that was one of the most ******** things i've seen someone do in quite a long time.
your assumption that not fiddling around with the server would keep it stable... they were fiddling around with the damn thing as soon as the fight escalated and went into deep tidi... There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Hybrid tech I ammo boost |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3763
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:31:00 -
[321] - Quote
Naridan Vanax wrote:Jafit McJafitson wrote:It's just a game guys, chill out. its game where poeple spend time and mony and this should not happen. taking sides like that lol Ahaha, eve online. It's real. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
3214

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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:31:00 -
[322] - Quote
digi wrote:I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it. We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this.
We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do.
CCP Phantom - Senior Community Representative - Volunteer Manager |
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Jen Moriarty
Love for You Circle-Of-Two
8
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:31:00 -
[323] - Quote
This is absolutely preposterous! How can you claim this is a fair game when you pull off tricks like that? This totally takes all the pleasure out of this game for me when you allow these things to happen |

Koshie Naranek
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
12
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:31:00 -
[324] - Quote
If 100 cfc carriers were tackled and in danger of dying, then this happened, would goons be just as upset as they are now?
Somehow I doubt it.
CFC giggles like a little girl when the meta goes their way, but when it doesn't? OMG the howls of righteous indignation can be heard all the way from VFK.
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Leonard Ashcroft
Repercussus RAZOR Alliance
7
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:31:00 -
[325] - Quote
CCP, I will forgive you on one condition. Please deliver a male exotic dancer to my item hangar. and don't ask any questions about him in the future.
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Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
517
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:31:00 -
[326] - Quote
This never would have happened under CCP Sreegs' watch. |

rabidslug
20th Legion Tribal Band
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:31:00 -
[327] - Quote
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL(LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
at the goons' rants
http://i.imgur.com/zKyJZQH.gif |

William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
119
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:31:00 -
[328] - Quote
CCP sends it's regards. |

Danny Calamity
TunnelSnakes Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:31:00 -
[329] - Quote
Jannarious White wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. This battle is truly epic in the history of EVE because it was the first time that a CPP actively affected the outcome of a pivotal battle in null security space. It is unfortunate that "human error" was the cause, but what is CCP going to do to try to correct this mistake and try to reconcile the actions that were taking place in space when the node was terminated?
You must me new to EVE. This has happened two or three times in favor of the Goons already in this war. And that's not even talking about what happened in battles prior to tidi. |

texas queens
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:31:00 -
[330] - Quote
This never would have happened under CCP Sreegs watch |
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Aprudena Gist
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
51
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:31:00 -
[331] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:digi wrote:I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it. We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this. We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do. Thats bullshit and you know it fountian hasn't run better then 50% tidi in any fight because you idiots can't run servers. |

Arrgthepirate
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
75
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:32:00 -
[332] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:digi wrote:I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it. We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this. We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do.
Doing a **** poor job of it |

Wrayeth
Inexorable Retribution
96
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:32:00 -
[333] - Quote
I'm tempted to go all Goon-like with statements such as "U mad bro?" and the like. I mean, certain personages who have mocked others for taking the game too seriously are now raging in this thread. It's almost like said persons are being hypocritical. 
In any case, I believe there's only one fair solution CCP can enact: simply destroy all ships that were in space in the system in question at the time of the node switching error. Screw both sides equally.  |

Pirokobo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:32:00 -
[334] - Quote
I was driving my T20 when the server crashed.
Coincidence? Secretary - Goonswarm Federation Corps Diplomatique |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3763
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:32:00 -
[335] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:digi wrote:I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it. We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this. We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do. Yeah. Ok. Just going to accept basically nothing will be done.
Not surprising. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Arkon Olacar
Imperial Guardians Tribal Band
229
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:32:00 -
[336] - Quote
Tore Vest wrote:Well.... CCP saved goons dread flett.... CCP saved TEST carrier fleet.... I guess you are eaven now...  Nope, CCP owe us another goon dread fleet or two before we are even "The rest will be in the blog rather than invented at the keyboards of forum posters and bloggers." -á-á-á-á-á-á-á - CCP Sreegs, 23/06/2012
Umad forum warriors? |

Elric Gymirson
Norse'Storm Battle Group Circle-Of-Two
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:32:00 -
[337] - Quote
Gilbaron wrote:i love how you think you would have killed more than 100 slowcats without bringing supers Yes, we did. We were popping your carriers as fast as we could target them. So yeah, weren't even running out of ammo doing them. So yeah, we were in no danger of not dropping all of your god damned carriers. Laugh and smile today for tomorrow we shall weep and roar. |

Danny Calamity
TunnelSnakes Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:32:00 -
[338] - Quote
CDLoon wrote:Got to say, I'm enjoying the smug posting from N3 and TEST.
Because getting kicked off the server to save your ships is a victory right ?
Is it not? |

Staphylococcus Aureus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:32:00 -
[339] - Quote
GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. Quote this guy forever! |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3763
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:32:00 -
[340] - Quote
Pirokobo wrote:I was driving my T20 when the server crashed. Coincidence? Mm, tanks. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |
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Arrendis
Hephaestus LLC Fatal Ascension
18
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:32:00 -
[341] - Quote
GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP.
This. |

Audix
Rayn Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:32:00 -
[342] - Quote
OP Success ? |

Ayures
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
15
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:33:00 -
[343] - Quote
Aprudena Gist wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:digi wrote:I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it. We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this. We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do. Thats bullshit and you know it fountian hasn't run better then 50% tidi in any fight because you idiots can't run servers.
Stop blaming CCP for your failures. It's not nice. :( |

Ersahi Kir
Infinite Mobility SpaceMonkey's Alliance
208
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:33:00 -
[344] - Quote
So is there going to be a quiz about what services you can't move without crashing a node? Anyone who doesn't get a perfect score gets kicked in the nuts and has to clean toilets. |

Relixxz
Hephaestus LLC Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:33:00 -
[345] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:[quote=digi]
destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do.
Its exactly what you just did
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ito kazami
ICE is Coming to EVE Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:33:00 -
[346] - Quote
skyppye wrote:GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. this +1
+1 |

FOEHAMMER006
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:33:00 -
[347] - Quote
MeBiatch wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. so you guys were doing your job and over 6 hours still managed to keep the server going and made a human error due to fatigue... i think people should be thanking ccp that they kept it up for that long... heck i remember back in 06 a 400 man fight was unheard of. let alone 2100+
I remember over 1000+ fights in 04, so you I do not know where you got your information from.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3763
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:33:00 -
[348] - Quote
Staphylococcus Aureus wrote:GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. Quote this guy forever! Why bother, you'd accomplish more by getting in a Lyris siegefleet.
As long as the node doesn't get remapped as you're shooting a structure, that is. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Ayures
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
15
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:34:00 -
[349] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. This.
We'll trade them for the metric ****-ton of CFC dreads we've had tackled when a node crashed and the pilots refused to log back in. |

Varesk
Origin. Black Legion.
425
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:34:00 -
[350] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:
destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do.
|
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Mostlyharmlesss
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
64
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:34:00 -
[351] - Quote
MeBiatch wrote:Zagdul wrote:Nethras wrote:Downtime doesn't remove ships from space or reset aggro timers, but node remapping does? Look, EVE PvE has never been a strength, the only thing that remotely matches server mechanics during fights in importance is the economy, and you **** it up this bad?
Why does this function differently than downtime? Why is it possible to "accidentally" do this without a warning that you're doing it to an extremely full system? Why the hell are you trying to excuse saving hundreds of billions of isk, if not over a trillion, with an "oops"?
There's a reason that critical functions are normally engineered with multiple checks and failsafes, because human error always DOES exist, which is why it's completely ******* inexcusable that CCP has nothing in place to mitigate that possibility here. "We'll make sure this won't happen again" isn't sufficient, fix how it was even possible to begin with, and fix it on multiple levels. I don't like empty quotes. listen a critical system was removed from the node. this was not like downtime... ccp ****** up and did something that removed again a CRITICAL SYSTEM... its assumed this system is CRITICAL... so use your brain and think what really happened.
The thing is, this isn't the first time it's happened. It's been less than 3 weeks ago CCP did another "Oops". |

Danny Calamity
TunnelSnakes Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:34:00 -
[352] - Quote
ito kazami wrote:fisrt , we want a ccp internal affairs investigation , too much N3 / test favouring lately to be coincidence.
2nd , we want those carriers and battleships saved by ccp to be removed from the game
3rd , we want ccp to invest in reliable servers
Let's see about that Goon dreadfleet we had tackled when the same thing happened just a couple weeks ago.
o7m8 |

Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
1343
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:34:00 -
[353] - Quote
MeBiatch wrote:Zagdul wrote:Nethras wrote:Downtime doesn't remove ships from space or reset aggro timers, but node remapping does? Look, EVE PvE has never been a strength, the only thing that remotely matches server mechanics during fights in importance is the economy, and you **** it up this bad?
Why does this function differently than downtime? Why is it possible to "accidentally" do this without a warning that you're doing it to an extremely full system? Why the hell are you trying to excuse saving hundreds of billions of isk, if not over a trillion, with an "oops"?
There's a reason that critical functions are normally engineered with multiple checks and failsafes, because human error always DOES exist, which is why it's completely ******* inexcusable that CCP has nothing in place to mitigate that possibility here. "We'll make sure this won't happen again" isn't sufficient, fix how it was even possible to begin with, and fix it on multiple levels. I don't like empty quotes. listen a critical system was removed from the node. this was not like downtime... ccp ****** up and did something that removed again a CRITICAL SYSTEM... its assumed this system is CRITICAL... so use your brain and think what really happened.
The point is that it shouldn't be possible, regardless. Human error should be considered here and that's the point of the questioning. Not the actual mechanics behind a server going offline and it dropping it's information.
The combat aspects of this game should persist through critical failure or go to backup.
It's how any competent IT infrastructure is designed. What happened today would be kin to Google losing e-mails to an entire country and having a response of "Oops".
This is the level CCP is trying to compete on, a professional one where we give them our money to entertain us.
Today that broke down. The sandbox did not work and CCP's infrastructure failed miserably with a response that it's human error.
Dual Pane idea: Click!
CCP Please Implement |

Zhade Lezte
117
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:34:00 -
[354] - Quote
Koshie Naranek wrote:]CFC giggles like a little girl when the meta goes their way, but when it doesn't? OMG the howls of righteous indignation can be heard all the way from VFK.
ITT Nulli member groups player induced espionage/diplomacy using legitimate game mechanics and CCP induced server failure into the category of "meta". |

Mostlyharmlesss
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
64
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:34:00 -
[355] - Quote
Danny Calamity wrote:ito kazami wrote:fisrt , we want a ccp internal affairs investigation , too much N3 / test favouring lately to be coincidence.
2nd , we want those carriers and battleships saved by ccp to be removed from the game
3rd , we want ccp to invest in reliable servers Let's see about that Goon dreadfleet we had tackled when the same thing happened just a couple weeks ago. o7m8
What dread fleet? |

Katie Corb
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
27
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:34:00 -
[356] - Quote
Can we at least get a promise that you'll work on preserving aggression timers if this happens again? :darkelf: |

Ganon Kogamari
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:34:00 -
[357] - Quote
ito kazami wrote:fisrt , we want a ccp internal affairs investigation , too much N3 / test favouring lately to be coincidence.
2nd , we want those carriers and battleships saved by ccp to be removed from the game
3rd , we want ccp to invest in reliable servers
4th , we would like a lifetime supply of foil, tin preferred but aluminum is acceptable (in sufficient quantities) |

Axhind
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
27
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:34:00 -
[358] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:digi wrote:I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it. We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this. We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do.
But that was the effect here. And quite huge influence it was. Sure it would not change the outcome of the war in a single battle but it will help test.
Worst thing is all the hours everyone lost here. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3763
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:34:00 -
[359] - Quote
FOEHAMMER006 wrote:MeBiatch wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. so you guys were doing your job and over 6 hours still managed to keep the server going and made a human error due to fatigue... i think people should be thanking ccp that they kept it up for that long... heck i remember back in 06 a 400 man fight was unheard of. let alone 2100+ I remember over 1000+ fights in 04, so you I do not know where you got your information from. Clearly in the new MODERN eve, 2100 is too many for the upgraded system from 9 years later. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1121
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:35:00 -
[360] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:digi wrote:I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it. We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this. We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do.
problem is as your tech gets better they will blob more and more in system. its a war that can never be won.
i remember after dominion you could not do more then 1200 in system with out the server crashing...
now you can do 2100 plus
if you made it stable under 4000 they would try to cram in 5000 and complain about it. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Hybrid tech I ammo boost |
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Edward Pierce
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
69
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:35:00 -
[361] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:digi wrote:I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it. We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this. We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do. You mean it's not what you would like to do? Because we all know it's what you just did?
Your hopes and dreams are all nice and dandy, but stop accidentally crashing a node after over 6 hours of constant fighting is just not a way to run a game.
You know what else doesn't happen in the whole gaming industry? Engineers accidentally stopping the biggest fight in their game's history. |

DaOpa
Static Corp
19
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:35:00 -
[362] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
I guess its time to create a AI that automatically does this sort of stuff with no human interaction...
DaOpa's EVE Fansite ||Wormhole Database / Wormhole Systems Lookup Tool ||Live Streamer at twitch.tv/daopa |

Ayures
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
20
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:35:00 -
[363] - Quote
Mostlyharmlesss wrote:Danny Calamity wrote:ito kazami wrote:fisrt , we want a ccp internal affairs investigation , too much N3 / test favouring lately to be coincidence.
2nd , we want those carriers and battleships saved by ccp to be removed from the game
3rd , we want ccp to invest in reliable servers Let's see about that Goon dreadfleet we had tackled when the same thing happened just a couple weeks ago. o7m8 What dread fleet?
Take your pick. There have been like 4 that have been saved by node crashes. |

Fear lancer
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:35:00 -
[364] - Quote
Staphylococcus Aureus wrote:GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. Quote this guy forever!
GRIEV3R does have a point...and the live feed had wrecks and drones still there aswell so there shouldnt be any exception for the bubbles and the Cap ships still inside of it |

Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore
489
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:35:00 -
[365] - Quote
Ayures wrote:Arrendis wrote:GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. This. We'll trade them for the metric ****-ton of CFC dreads we've had tackled when a node crashed and the pilots refused to log back in.
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Miner Hottie
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
6
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:35:00 -
[366] - Quote
Ju'Kan wrote:Zagdul wrote:GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. This. That.
+1 CCP Alliance Please Explain It's all about how hot my mining lasers get. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3764
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:35:00 -
[367] - Quote
Katie Corb wrote:Can we at least get a promise that you'll work on preserving aggression timers if this happens again? How many promises do you want?
Maybe a space kitten or a funny error message with a meme reference?
Remapcat ? There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Cor Six
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
4
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:36:00 -
[368] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:digi wrote:I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it. We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this. We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do.
Stop trying to tinfoil. Fire the dude that ****** up. Give us the 110 carrier kills and the supers that it whould prob escalate in to.
CCP Dolan is prob involved here somewere to save his "test bros"
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Ming Tso
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
7
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:36:00 -
[369] - Quote
Petition submitted for the Archon I lost due to the node crash.
Seriously CCP. You should not be messing up these fights. |

Ganon Kogamari
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:36:00 -
[370] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:digi wrote:I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it. We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this. We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do.
Don't mind the Goons, they were about to extract and this is part of their metagaming strategy (it's how they win wars). |
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CALWELL
Eve Liberation Force Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:36:00 -
[371] - Quote
HEY CCP ARE TRYING TO HELP TEST LIKE YOU HELPED I.T. in the days when we removed them from fountain...
Whats your Problems in screwing with our game.. your ability to destroy our game time in this epic battle can might and proably see an end to subscriptions for your poor performance WAKE UP |

Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
213
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:36:00 -
[372] - Quote
Blawrf McTaggart wrote:you're still losing fountain lmao Like how you lost Recon V, amirite?
Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |

Candy Mountainn
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:36:00 -
[373] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:digi wrote:I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it. We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this. We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do.
You mean like T20? How many times have the devs intervened and no one knew. I call bs x infinity |

Scally Dog
Killing is Business Get Off My Lawn
6
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:36:00 -
[374] - Quote
TEST have CCP right where they want them 
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Kais Fiddler
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:36:00 -
[375] - Quote
I was really looking forward to getting into this fight when I got home. Arrived home to find out the server had been restarted and I wouldn't be getting my fight. Dammit CCP :/ |

Sona Dulla
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:36:00 -
[376] - Quote
Maybe if test would pull ccps genitals out of their mouths for 10 seconds they could realize they lost that fight bigtime. Thanks for saving test ccp.
Test Alliance = New BOB to bad you will meet the same fate scrubs |

Beidorion eldwardan
Corporation Danmark Tactical Narcotics Team
8
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:36:00 -
[377] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:digi wrote:I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it. We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this. We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do.
stop giving us the BIIIIPP political correctly pr answer and tell us whu F'ed up and fire the numb nut |

Kalen Pavle
The Devil's Children Unclaimed.
23
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:36:00 -
[378] - Quote
Ersahi Kir wrote:So is there going to be a quiz about what services you can't move without crashing a node? Anyone who doesn't get a perfect score gets kicked in the nuts and has to clean toilets.
Obviously the goal was to remap all systems other than Z9 off this node, in effect reinforcing it by reducing load. Unfortunately someone selected the Z9 process when remapping and probably left some other system running on the node instead. |

Ayures
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
20
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:36:00 -
[379] - Quote
Miner Hottie wrote:Ju'Kan wrote:Zagdul wrote:GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. This. That. +1 CCP Alliance Please Explain
We'll trade them for the metric ****-ton of CFC dreads we've had tackled when node crashes saved them and the pilots refused to log back in. |

BoodaBooda
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
231
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:36:00 -
[380] - Quote
Blawrf McTaggart wrote:Danny Calamity wrote:Blawrf McTaggart wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. Take the 117 trapped capitals away from the pilots that were trapped. They were dead and you should recognise this, I think! But yeah this was a mistake on CCP's side, an unfortunate mistake, and people calling ~THREADNOUGHT DEV ALLIANCE PLZ IGNORE~ are dumb You mad about losing Recon V? We had you guys right where we wanted you. you're still losing fountain lmao
We are? lol |
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Hawkspur Firestarter
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
25
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:36:00 -
[381] - Quote
Where was the Test threadnaught about CFC dreads being saved several times? Pretty sure no one was screaming CCP collusion and other ******** tinfoilery in such vast quantity.
why you haff to be mad? |

Needmore Longcat
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
35
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:36:00 -
[382] - Quote
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:CFC Capital fleet gets saved by a boo boo 3 or 4 times, TEST grumbles and gets on with their lives.
TEST Capital fleet gets saved by a boo boo, and the SA Furries and their pets go on a Posting CTA.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3764
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:37:00 -
[383] - Quote
Edward Pierce wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:digi wrote:I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it. We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this. We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do. You mean it's not what you would like to do? Because we all know it's what you just did? Your hopes and dreams are all nice and dandy, but stop accidentally crashing a node after over 6 hours of constant fighting is just not a way to run a game. You know what else doesn't happen in the whole gaming industry? Engineers accidentally stopping the biggest fight in their game's history. Too bad, you're playing Eve Online. You knew it would happen. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Zuquar Bonaparte
New Dawn Corporation Circle-Of-Two
3
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:37:00 -
[384] - Quote
yep http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=21472 |

Space Juden
Supermassive Potato Pancake
7
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:37:00 -
[385] - Quote
Now you guys can have more battles, you should be happy. |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1123
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:37:00 -
[386] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:FOEHAMMER006 wrote:MeBiatch wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. so you guys were doing your job and over 6 hours still managed to keep the server going and made a human error due to fatigue... i think people should be thanking ccp that they kept it up for that long... heck i remember back in 06 a 400 man fight was unheard of. let alone 2100+ I remember over 1000+ fights in 04, so you I do not know where you got your information from. Clearly in the new MODERN eve, 2100 is too many for the upgraded system from 9 years later.
i started in 06 and remember 200 frege vrs 200 roadkill only leading to desyncs/disconnects and frequent blackscreens and server crashes... please link the 1000 man fight in 04 i would like to see the fraps or thread that talks about it...
There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Hybrid tech I ammo boost |

Yornic
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
11
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:37:00 -
[387] - Quote
CCP, I would like to tell you that I had a very enjoyable day, and I was quite pleased by this large battle involving thousands of players that would not have happened in basically any other game. My July 4th was going to be boring and without meaning, but then I went and fought in a big battle that doesn't happen very often.
Thank you CCP, and I love you for making this wonderful game a reality. I would be willing to make sweet, sweet love to you. I love you CCP. Please marry me so we may be together forever and ever. |

Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
457
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:37:00 -
[388] - Quote
Zagdul wrote:Draghkar wrote:https://twitter.com/erlendur/status/352923608315736065
Human error guys, honest mistake that saved an entire cap fleet. Oh, well. When you put it like that. I guess everything is alright. ... Not to mention the people who have been watching this war. This isn't a win for either side. ... I feel robbed.
This is a win for anybody who hates Goonswarm. Guess how many people that is?
You feel robbed? Terrific, given the fact that your alliance has stolen more isk from players I know than anybody else in Eve.
This here is what you call "Taking away their fun," big time. Could not be happier. |

Yuluthu
The Drunken Empire Fatal Ascension
5
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:37:00 -
[389] - Quote
I'm actually angry enough that I can't focus |

Prop Wash
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
82
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:37:00 -
[390] - Quote
Yeah I don't really care about any CCP bias/metagaming accusations and related silliness, I think in this case it's enough to know that CCP massively messed this one up and leave it at that. |
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Arch Ville
Koa Mai Hoku Nulli Secunda
13
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:38:00 -
[391] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote: We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do.
Forget about it everyone makes mistakes.
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UclanChar
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:38:00 -
[392] - Quote
It saddens me to see such mindless trolling taking place.
Like CCP care about which alliance wins what fight. Seriously guys, have a word with yourselves.
People overlooking the astounding technical feat of having over 2,000 active connections to the node and the fact they were taking measures to *increase* that number for the greater enjoyment of everyone involved.
Yeah, someone made a mistake. That guy probably doesn't even need to be punished because he is probably going to kick himself for weeks (and be the butt of office jokes for months!). When you take pride in your work mistakes don't need to be punished because you punish yourself.
Perhaps something good will come of this. Maybe an automated system to do what that engineer was attempting to do. Look to the future and think of the positive things this could create.
UC. |

Ayures
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
20
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:38:00 -
[393] - Quote
Space Juden wrote:Now you guys can have more battles, you should be happy.
True enough. The CFC is going to desperately need all those megas that the node crashed saved. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2001
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:38:00 -
[394] - Quote
Ayures wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote:Good god this thread is an embarrassment. u mad?
no
u literate? Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3764
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:38:00 -
[395] - Quote
Cor Six wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:digi wrote:I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it. We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this. We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do. Stop trying to tinfoil. Fire the dude that ****** up. Give us the 110 carrier kills and the supers that it whould prob escalate in to. CCP Dolan is prob involved here somewere to save his "test bros" Not happening. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Ayures
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
20
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:38:00 -
[396] - Quote
Scatim Helicon wrote:Ayures wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote:Good god this thread is an embarrassment. u mad? no u literate?
c |

Prop Wash
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
82
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:38:00 -
[397] - Quote
Ban Bindy wrote:Zagdul wrote:Draghkar wrote:https://twitter.com/erlendur/status/352923608315736065
Human error guys, honest mistake that saved an entire cap fleet. Oh, well. When you put it like that. I guess everything is alright. ... Not to mention the people who have been watching this war. This isn't a win for either side. ... I feel robbed. This is a win for anybody who hates Goonswarm. Guess how many people that is? You feel robbed? Terrific, given the fact that your alliance has stolen more isk from players I know than anybody else in Eve. This here is what you call "Taking away their fun," big time. Could not be happier. This, on the other hand, made my morning. Thanks dude! |

Ganon Kogamari
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:38:00 -
[398] - Quote
Needmore Longcat wrote:Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:CFC Capital fleet gets saved by a boo boo 3 or 4 times, TEST grumbles and gets on with their lives.
TEST Capital fleet gets saved by a boo boo, and the SA Furries and their pets go on a Posting CTA.
Haha, this. |

Jasmine Assasin
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:38:00 -
[399] - Quote
Goon tears are delicious.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3764
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:38:00 -
[400] - Quote
Scatim Helicon wrote:Ayures wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote:Good god this thread is an embarrassment. u mad? no u literate? u posting? There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |
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Needmore Longcat
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
35
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:38:00 -
[401] - Quote
Hawkspur Firestarter wrote:Where was the Test threadnaught about CFC dreads being saved several times? Pretty sure no one was screaming CCP collusion and other ******** tinfoilery in such vast quantity.
why you haff to be mad?
because goons have turned into the pubbies they once decried. they sound like whiny highsec miners now. |

Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore
489
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:38:00 -
[402] - Quote
Hey CCP, We'll gladly take these losses, as long as you also remove the losses the CFC Capital Fleets should have takes the last 3-4 times the server took a boo boo.
I like these SA Furry tears. |

Thedaius
Repercussus RAZOR Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:38:00 -
[403] - Quote
Hey CFC Bro's: Stop Whining like bitches.... There is more work to do and TEST has ****** up more than once in the past.... We'll get those Capitals eventually!!!!
TEST; nice sneaky ninja tactics!
Next time :) |

Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
213
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:39:00 -
[404] - Quote
Ayures wrote:Mostlyharmlesss wrote:
What dread fleet?
Take your pick. There have been like 4 that have been saved by node crashes. CFC propaganda spins so much, they don't even know that CCP saved their (30 man?) dread fleet a couple weeks ago.
The most enjoyable thing about talking to a Goon, is how little they actually know about how this war is going, how they believe they are taking space as they lose space, how they are taking moons as they lose moons, how they win by standing down, and win by standing up, and basically win every fight, even if no one logs in.
Crazy people are a blast. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |

theelusiveyoda
Tr0pa de elite. Pandemic Legion
16
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:39:00 -
[405] - Quote
Shaun Hansen wrote:Listen Im quite frustrated over this, imho, idiotic breakdown. If you can make Jita run smoothly, and I know what Im talking about, why not get an important fight than this one running? This fight was going on for a long time and you had plenty of time to get that node up and running. Im disappointed and somewhat angry 
You apparently don't know what your talking about as a fleet battle is a total different ball game than fleet battles server load wise than a market hub is, also hubs generally have a steady amount of actions and server calls where as fleet fights have spikes from gangs jumping in, warping off etc.
For an Example lets talk about drones: the server has to calculate where a drone is what its range is from its target is, how much health it currently has, if it can even reach the target, how fast it should be going, how much damage it should do at the current range if any, the targets resits have to be taken into account and then also the drone owners skills also have to be taken into account.
That's all for one drone now times that by 5 on average per person then times it by however many people are using drones, the server has to calculate that every 1 second server tick if it was running in real time.
Then add on ship movement, gun tracking + damage, health amount and so on and you get the idea.
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Jim Era
6851
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:39:00 -
[406] - Quote
guys please slow down, I cannot collect all of these tears so fast |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1123
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:39:00 -
[407] - Quote
Mostlyharmlesss wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Zagdul wrote:Nethras wrote:Downtime doesn't remove ships from space or reset aggro timers, but node remapping does? Look, EVE PvE has never been a strength, the only thing that remotely matches server mechanics during fights in importance is the economy, and you **** it up this bad?
Why does this function differently than downtime? Why is it possible to "accidentally" do this without a warning that you're doing it to an extremely full system? Why the hell are you trying to excuse saving hundreds of billions of isk, if not over a trillion, with an "oops"?
There's a reason that critical functions are normally engineered with multiple checks and failsafes, because human error always DOES exist, which is why it's completely ******* inexcusable that CCP has nothing in place to mitigate that possibility here. "We'll make sure this won't happen again" isn't sufficient, fix how it was even possible to begin with, and fix it on multiple levels. I don't like empty quotes. listen a critical system was removed from the node. this was not like downtime... ccp ****** up and did something that removed again a CRITICAL SYSTEM... its assumed this system is CRITICAL... so use your brain and think what really happened. The thing is, this isn't the first time it's happened. It's been less than 3 weeks ago CCP did another "Oops".
its almost like this giant ******* war started and the engineers have been working overtime to try and facilitate the ability for it to be enjoyable... imagine in 1000 line code you mistake a - for a + and you just destroyed the server. **** happens... There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Hybrid tech I ammo boost |

Axhind
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
28
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:39:00 -
[408] - Quote
MeBiatch wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:digi wrote:I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it. We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this. We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do. problem is as your tech gets better they will blob more and more in system. its a war that can never be won. i remember after dominion you could not do more then 1200 in system with out the server crashing... now you can do 2100 plus if you made it stable under 4000 they would try to cram in 5000 and complain about it.
There is a huge difference between node crash (nobody would make a big stink about it) and some admin actually ruining an awesome fight in which people invested 5-6 hours plus it saves tons of ships for one side in the biggest war in the game.
Two very different things. All players whine about crashes but we understand it happens. This is different. This just pisses off anyone for interfering with the most important war in 0.0 |

Arrendis
Hephaestus LLC Fatal Ascension
19
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:39:00 -
[409] - Quote
Imodesky Kafelnikov wrote:ito kazami wrote:fisrt , we want a ccp internal affairs investigation , too much N3 / test favouring lately to be coincidence.
2nd , we want those carriers and battleships saved by ccp to be removed from the game
3rd , we want ccp to invest in reliable servers 4th, could we get cheese with that?
But only if it's good cheese - maybe a nice block of swiss or pepperjack, or a tub of brie or port wine... none of that Kraft American Singles or Cheez Whiz crap. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3764
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:39:00 -
[410] - Quote
Prop Wash wrote:Ban Bindy wrote:Zagdul wrote:Draghkar wrote:https://twitter.com/erlendur/status/352923608315736065
Human error guys, honest mistake that saved an entire cap fleet. Oh, well. When you put it like that. I guess everything is alright. ... Not to mention the people who have been watching this war. This isn't a win for either side. ... I feel robbed. This is a win for anybody who hates Goonswarm. Guess how many people that is? You feel robbed? Terrific, given the fact that your alliance has stolen more isk from players I know than anybody else in Eve. This here is what you call "Taking away their fun," big time. Could not be happier. This, on the other hand, made my morning. Thanks dude! It is ... how do you say it.
CCP has us right where they want us There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |
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MyBoy friday
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:39:00 -
[411] - Quote
I'm not going to get on the CCP is Test argument, although it sounds very suspicious at this point. I just don't care about that.
However, it seems quite reasonable to ask the question, when will CCP begin firing or reassigning their employees who are not capable of doing their jobs? This is a huge customer service issue. You expect players to:
1. pay for the service 2. risk their earned in-game assets in order to generate content in the game according to the structure that CCP alone has devised. 3. attract new players/subscribers
And yet, you seem incapable of properly vetting employees to insure that they posses the skills to support a simple service. This was not an act of God, or serendipity. It was an act committed by a CCP employee, accidental or not, which caused tangible losses to it's customers. There is NO other industry where compensation would not be immediately granted to the customer.
Just saying.
Maybe some time on a mop will sharpen your sysadmin's skills.
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Ming Tso
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
7
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:39:00 -
[412] - Quote
I, for one, oppose all forms of meta gaming from the Goon spies that did this to mess up all our fun.
No fun allowed, indeed. |

Yornic
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
11
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:40:00 -
[413] - Quote
Yuluthu wrote:I'm actually angry enough that I can't focus
It's okay, you need to focus your anger into something productive. Just hug yourself and think of something you can be angry at. Concentrate, and you will find your inner self, your true self. It is okay. You don't have to hate yourself, we here at TEST are here for you, for we love you. |

Danny Calamity
TunnelSnakes Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:40:00 -
[414] - Quote
Prop Wash wrote:Yeah I don't really care about any CCP bias/metagaming accusations and related silliness, I think in this case it's enough to know that CCP massively messed this one up and leave it at that.
Careful. Mittens will probably commissar anyone who doesn't tow the line on this one. |

Khandu Eesi
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:40:00 -
[415] - Quote
EvE Online Forums hit 10% TIDI.... |

Heavy Met4l Queen
Dark Corner Projects
35
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:40:00 -
[416] - Quote
The only thing that makes me more happy today than sipping on nullbear tears is knowing that summer is nowhere near over, ensuring more fights, more shineys exploding, and more tears to go around. I hate therefore i am... |

Zeph1rus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:40:00 -
[417] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:digi wrote:I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it. We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this. We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do.
This is a poor non-response to the issue. We get it, you screwed up, but you should not have been screwing with an active fight. Mistakes only happen if you put yourself in the position to make them.
What are you doing to fix this issue. This fight had massive consequences, and you cannot hand-wave and go "oops".
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3764
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:40:00 -
[418] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:Imodesky Kafelnikov wrote:ito kazami wrote:fisrt , we want a ccp internal affairs investigation , too much N3 / test favouring lately to be coincidence.
2nd , we want those carriers and battleships saved by ccp to be removed from the game
3rd , we want ccp to invest in reliable servers 4th, could we get cheese with that? But only if it's good cheese - maybe a nice block of swiss or pepperjack, or a tub of brie or port wine... none of that Kraft American Singles or Cheez Whiz crap. Ahh yeah, I second pepperjack. That stuff is amazing. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Pohk Ordach
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:41:00 -
[419] - Quote
Im tooooooootaaaalllyyyyy enjoying this 21 pages of CFC tears
This is victory for EvE |

Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
245
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:41:00 -
[420] - Quote
Everyone needs to chill CCP had their hands full and I don't know any other game out yet that can have this level of fights. We know everyone is raring to go.... Well not TEST exactly:
Quote:pls dont log into z9 im not doing the sota right now because youve been on for 7 hours in a row and its a us holiday go get laid or something#### SENT BY BoodaBooda to Allies @ 2013-07-04 22:37:41 EVE Time ####
TEST pilots dodging a fight and Booda hiding under his own bed from a SOTA that involves a Q&A session. |
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Zer Res
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:41:00 -
[421] - Quote
any answer for why you waited 7 hours before doing anything? |

Minaro Shina
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:41:00 -
[422] - Quote
Cor Six wrote: Stop trying to tinfoil.
Cor Six wrote: CCP Dolan is prob involved here somewere to save his "test bros"
lol
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Synryder
sleep Deprivation INC. LLC The Kadeshi
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:41:00 -
[423] - Quote
WOW.....Didn't realize the CFC had so many little ******s in their Group of scrubs....just WOW!!!!!!!!
CFC TEARS = BEST TEARS |

Candy Mountainn
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:41:00 -
[424] - Quote
UclanChar wrote:It saddens me to see such mindless trolling taking place.
Like CCP care about which alliance wins what fight. Seriously guys, have a word with yourselves.
People overlooking the astounding technical feat of having over 2,000 active connections to the node and the fact they were taking measures to *increase* that number for the greater enjoyment of everyone involved.
Yeah, someone made a mistake. That guy probably doesn't even need to be punished because he is probably going to kick himself for weeks (and be the butt of office jokes for months!). When you take pride in your work mistakes don't need to be punished because you punish yourself.
Perhaps something good will come of this. Maybe an automated system to do what that engineer was attempting to do. Look to the future and think of the positive things this could create.
UC.
Yea im sure CCP Dolan is kicking himself real hard right now with a giant bat of SMUG. |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1123
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:41:00 -
[425] - Quote
Axhind wrote:MeBiatch wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:digi wrote:I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it. We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this. We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do. problem is as your tech gets better they will blob more and more in system. its a war that can never be won. i remember after dominion you could not do more then 1200 in system with out the server crashing... now you can do 2100 plus if you made it stable under 4000 they would try to cram in 5000 and complain about it. There is a huge difference between node crash (nobody would make a big stink about it) and some admin actually ruining an awesome fight in which people invested 5-6 hours plus it saves tons of ships for one side in the biggest war in the game. Two very different things. All players whine about crashes but we understand it happens. This is different. This just pisses off anyone for interfering with the most important war in 0.0
why do you think if ccp was not messing around there would not have been a crash like an hour into it? There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Hybrid tech I ammo boost |

Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
213
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:41:00 -
[426] - Quote
Conversation with pleaseignore.com at 7/4/2013 4:39:35 PM on [email protected]/Jabber (jabber)
(4:39:35 PM) pleaseignore.com:
RIGHT WHERE WE WANT 'EM
#### SENT BY BoodaBooda to All online test @ 2013-07-04 23:39:39 EVE Time ####
Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |

Danny Calamity
TunnelSnakes Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:41:00 -
[427] - Quote
BoodaBooda wrote:Blawrf McTaggart wrote:Danny Calamity wrote:Blawrf McTaggart wrote:
Take the 117 trapped capitals away from the pilots that were trapped. They were dead and you should recognise this, I think!
But yeah this was a mistake on CCP's side, an unfortunate mistake, and people calling ~THREADNOUGHT DEV ALLIANCE PLZ IGNORE~ are dumb
You mad about losing Recon V? We had you guys right where we wanted you. you're still losing fountain lmao We are? lol
Ignore him, he's just pretty hurt over losing Recon V. Now he can't participate in honorable goon cloaky camps anymore.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8344
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:41:00 -
[428] - Quote
TEST and N3 are so bad they need CCP to save them lmao Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Voyan Ageri
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
15
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:41:00 -
[429] - Quote
Khandu Eesi wrote:EvE Online Forums hit 10% TIDI....
We should probably move some non-critical services away from this thread. |

ectweak
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:41:00 -
[430] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:digi wrote:I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it. We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this. We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do.
So WHY does the server not save the state prior to being reset (retaining any combat flags related to the ships) and instead give all parties the option of getting a free safe log-off?
The amount of irritation in this thread isn't the fact that the servers were reset (which is in itself an aggravation) but the fact that current mechanics wipes ALL combat from the server at the time a reset button is pressed. there was a supposed change to the combat flags to better reinforce the motto of "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" by making ships no longer disappear after 15 minutes if someone is still shooting them. Now, it is more of "Don't fly what you can't afford to lose, except for when CCP screws up and restarts the server, then you get your stuff out scot-free." |
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William Westmere
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
16
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:41:00 -
[431] - Quote
Holy **** dudes crying big crocodile tears about how you got cheated out of a fight isn't going to make the fight come back, CCP screwed up because you're playing a goddamn videogame run by people and sometimes **** happens, stop crying and posting about how CCP changed the course of nullsec and ruined your game, instead maybe you should go outside or something. |

KIATolon
Black Omega Security Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:41:00 -
[432] - Quote
Thanks for the fights everyone, it was fun.
**** happens. We get a chance to kill a lot of ships, and so I am sure there will be other chances in the future. GJ Testbro's for going all in! |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1123
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:42:00 -
[433] - Quote
Zer Res wrote:any answer for why you waited 7 hours before doing anything?
and you know they were not doing things the entire time because? There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Hybrid tech I ammo boost |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3764
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:42:00 -
[434] - Quote
Zeph1rus wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:digi wrote:I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it. We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this. We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do. This is a poor non-response to the issue. We get it, you screwed up, but you should not have been screwing with an active fight. Mistakes only happen if you put yourself in the position to make them. What are you doing to fix this issue. This fight had massive consequences, and you cannot hand-wave and go "oops". Hand-wave and go "opps" is basically this thread.
Along with "dwi"
Eve online is harsh and cold
Adapt and die. Or don't log in and don't die. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Captain Thunk
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
135
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:42:00 -
[435] - Quote
PL was about to jump in and DESTROY the goon fleet.
I'm pretty unhappy with what could be Goon engineers taking drastic action to save their Goon Brosefs.
Try not to get too mad about this Test guys, we'll get 'em next time! |

Delta Jax
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
44
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:42:00 -
[436] - Quote
Hey CCP,
Don't let these guys get you down, all us sysadmins know ****. happens to cause downtime. Twitter : -á@DeltaJax
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Frugykid
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:42:00 -
[437] - Quote
        GOON TEAR BEST TEARS!        
Things didnt go thier way so they run to eve forums to cry about it.
Make a Cry letter on www.themittani.com |

Danny Calamity
TunnelSnakes Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:42:00 -
[438] - Quote
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Ayures wrote:Mostlyharmlesss wrote:
What dread fleet?
Take your pick. There have been like 4 that have been saved by node crashes. CFC propaganda spins so much, they don't even know that CCP saved their (30 man?) dread fleet a couple weeks ago. The most enjoyable thing about talking to a Goon, is how little they actually know about how this war is going, how they believe they are taking space as they lose space, how they are taking moons as they lose moons, how they win by standing down, and win by standing up, and basically win every fight, even if no one logs in. Crazy people are a blast.
GoonSwarm isn't an alliance, it's a religion. o7 |

Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
213
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:42:00 -
[439] - Quote
Andski wrote:TEST and N3 are so bad they need CCP to save them lmao Yup. Good luck winning Fountain!
In related news, the amount of Goon sperg posting today basically means Test wins Eve, forever. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |

Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore
489
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:42:00 -
[440] - Quote
Scooter McCabe wrote:Everyone needs to chill CCP had their hands full and I don't know any other game out yet that can have this level of fights. We know everyone is raring to go.... Well not TEST exactly: Quote:pls dont log into z9 im not doing the sota right now because youve been on for 7 hours in a row and its a us holiday go get laid or something#### SENT BY BoodaBooda to Allies @ 2013-07-04 22:37:41 EVE Time #### TEST pilots dodging a fight and Booda hiding under his own bed from a SOTA that involves a Q&A session.
Man, I wonder who else got their Capitals saved and then gave the order to not log in? Oh yeah, CFC FC's |
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Smoking Blunts
ZC Industries Dark Stripes
615
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:42:00 -
[441] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:digi wrote:I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it. We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this. We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do.
so why were the capitals removed while they were aggressed and bubbled? OMG when can i get a pic here
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Hessian Arcturus
S.W.O.R.D. Navy
211
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:42:00 -
[442] - Quote
I love how Goons (not all of them) flame people in tear threads and say nasty sh*t and "oh look another tears thread". But then when it boils down to it, they're exactly the same... "waaaaa the node switched off" *to the forums to cry* lmfao ahhh I love these threads! 
EDIT: Please note I said not all Goons, some are rathe understanding of situations... It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1122
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:42:00 -
[443] - Quote
Andski wrote:TEST and N3 are so bad they need CCP to save them lmao
i'm going to save that quote for the next threadnaught when your titans are saved by a similar error. i have a crystal ball and it will be funny. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Hybrid tech I ammo boost |

CEO Rockhound
suspended animations DOT None Of The Above
11
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:42:00 -
[444] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
:RoyOfCa:
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k4rpa
Yellow Box Ltd. Gentlemen's Agreement
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:43:00 -
[445] - Quote
No worries test pilots, your ships will be reimbursed very soon... oh wait. |

Deteint
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:43:00 -
[446] - Quote
http://i.imgur.com/QlCeg2s.jpg |

Baali Tekitsu
Herrscher der Zeit Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:43:00 -
[447] - Quote
http://i.imgur.com/QlCeg2s.jpg
CFC were right |

Hawkspur Firestarter
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
25
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:43:00 -
[448] - Quote
Scooter McCabe wrote:Everyone needs to chill CCP had their hands full and I don't know any other game out yet that can have this level of fights. We know everyone is raring to go.... Well not TEST exactly: Quote:pls dont log into z9 im not doing the sota right now because youve been on for 7 hours in a row and its a us holiday go get laid or something#### SENT BY BoodaBooda to Allies @ 2013-07-04 22:37:41 EVE Time #### TEST pilots dodging a fight and Booda hiding under his own bed from a SOTA that involves a Q&A session.
Yeah! Goons have never not logged in their capital and subcap fleets following a node crash!
...oh. That happened like two weeks ago you say? Weird. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3764
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:43:00 -
[449] - Quote
KIATolon wrote:Thanks for the fights everyone, it was fun.
**** happens. We get a chance to kill a lot of ships, and so I am sure there will be other chances in the future. GJ Testbro's for going all in! Go all in,
then don't log in.
Spaceships are gone. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
444
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:44:00 -
[450] - Quote
Zer Res wrote:any answer for why you waited 7 hours before doing anything?
While watching the twitch feed word was a second wave of reinforcements were inbound, possibly supercaps entering the field. I heard possibly CFC supercaps but I doubted that, though you would need them to take down the 100 or so carriers you thought you had. |
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Zorlag
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:44:00 -
[451] - Quote
Seriously CCP... What the ****? How about you stop trying to fix lag, with the employees you got you're bound to make it worse 9 times out of 10. Lag is better then your crap.
Thanks for ruining something epic. |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
3217

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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:44:00 -
[452] - Quote
GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP.
While I am not an engineer or server administrator I can give a brief overview: a live remap disconnects all players in the system and removes all ships from space similar to a downtime.
The command to remap everything other than Z9PP-H from the current server node was mis-entered. Instead of moving everything else than Z9PP-H, the command was given to move everything else than Q9PP-H. Therefore Z9PP-H (and everything else on the current node) was remapped with the fatal consequences we see now.
Every live remap of a system, and this remap is no exception, works in such a way that all players in the system are disconnected and all ships are removed from space. The usual player logoff mechanics with all associated timers are just not relevant during downtime or live remaps.
Please also note that further information is currently being compiled to give you a more detailed overview. CCP Phantom - Senior Community Representative - Volunteer Manager |
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Hawkspur Firestarter
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
25
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:44:00 -
[453] - Quote
Smoking Blunts wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:digi wrote:I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it. We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this. We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do. so why were the capitals removed while they were aggressed and bubbled?
Because node crashes have always removed aggression, just as they did for when the CFC got a dread fleet tackled. You're dumb. |

Zer Res
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:44:00 -
[454] - Quote
MeBiatch wrote:Zer Res wrote:any answer for why you waited 7 hours before doing anything? and you know they were not doing things the entire time because? because they literally said they were fixing the server when they crashed everyone
keep up |

Yuluthu
The Drunken Empire Fatal Ascension
5
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:44:00 -
[455] - Quote
Yornic wrote:Yuluthu wrote:I'm actually angry enough that I can't focus It's okay, you need to focus your anger into something productive. Just hug yourself and think of something you can be angry at. Concentrate, and you will find your inner self, your true self. It is okay. You don't have to hate yourself, we here at TEST are here for you, for we love you.
ILU2BBY |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3764
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:44:00 -
[456] - Quote
k4rpa wrote:No worries test pilots, your ships will be reimbursed very soon... oh wait. Maybe they can get the previous losses reimbursed somehow if the deaths can be blamed on the node not being remapped earlier? There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Ayures
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
20
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:44:00 -
[457] - Quote
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:Scooter McCabe wrote:Everyone needs to chill CCP had their hands full and I don't know any other game out yet that can have this level of fights. We know everyone is raring to go.... Well not TEST exactly: Quote:pls dont log into z9 im not doing the sota right now because youve been on for 7 hours in a row and its a us holiday go get laid or something#### SENT BY BoodaBooda to Allies @ 2013-07-04 22:37:41 EVE Time #### TEST pilots dodging a fight and Booda hiding under his own bed from a SOTA that involves a Q&A session. Man, I wonder who else got their Capitals saved and then gave the order to not log in? Oh yeah, CFC FC's
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Audix
Rayn Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:44:00 -
[458] - Quote
http://i.imgur.com/QlCeg2s.jpg |

Ayures
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
20
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:44:00 -
[459] - Quote
Audix wrote:http://i.imgur.com/QlCeg2s.jpg
Stop giving them the evidence! |

Leontyne Gaterau
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
53
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:45:00 -
[460] - Quote
Darius JOHNSON wrote:CCP Phantom wrote: will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. Yeah ok.
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Danny Calamity
TunnelSnakes Test Alliance Please Ignore
8
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:45:00 -
[461] - Quote
k4rpa wrote:No worries test pilots, your ships will be reimbursed very soon... oh wait.
What happened to TFIs and Tengufleet again? |

bloodknight2
Talledega Knights PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS
109
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:45:00 -
[462] - Quote
Can someone explain to us (the one who wasn't there) what happened? Any video? |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3765
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:45:00 -
[463] - Quote
Zer Res wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Zer Res wrote:any answer for why you waited 7 hours before doing anything? and you know they were not doing things the entire time because? because they literally said they were fixing the server when they crashed everyone keep up Server is fixed now, no nasty ships in space shooting each other.
Problem solved, op success.
There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Grarr Dexx
Snuff Box Urine Alliance
203
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:45:00 -
[464] - Quote
the butthurt is A+ |

sthymj
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:45:00 -
[465] - Quote
I was there............ wish I hadnt bothered now |

Zenk Faswell
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
25
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:45:00 -
[466] - Quote
Come on, I thought you guys liked metagaming! Is it too much of a bummer when it doesn't happen in your favor, is that it? |

Edward Pierce
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
70
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:45:00 -
[467] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:- destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do.
Given your developer's history in this game, that is quite a bold statement. |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1125
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:45:00 -
[468] - Quote
Zer Res wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Zer Res wrote:any answer for why you waited 7 hours before doing anything? and you know they were not doing things the entire time because? because they literally said they were fixing the server when they crashed everyone keep up
so there is only one fix? ever over 6 hours? cool. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Hybrid tech I ammo boost |

ciphus21
Tribal Band Industrial Leadership Devision
2
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:45:00 -
[469] - Quote
Leask wrote:Given that this is not the first time this has happened I think that a serious investigation is mandatory.
Similar situations happening at peculiarly strategic times for Test (in both cases saving large amounts of supers that under normal circumstances would have been killed) inspires little trust in apologies that CCP has been so quick to publish.
As paying customers we deserve answers.
we need a super duper investigation lolz go cry a river so i can harvest your tears :P |

Disastro
Wrecking Shots Black Legion.
85
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:45:00 -
[470] - Quote
Thanks ccp for helping us not finish off the Bubbled Test capitals. We didnt want those capital kills anyway. You dudes are pro. Keep doing what you are doing. Awesome job. To err is human after all.... |
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Luci Ambrye
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:46:00 -
[471] - Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEwnfhuPJGs
feel free to join in with the chorus, and dont forget..............SING IT LOUD!!!! |

Schadenfraud
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:46:00 -
[472] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. While I am not an engineer or server administrator I can give a brief overview: a live remap disconnects all players in the system and removes all ships from space similar to a downtime. The command to remap everything other than Z9PP-H from the current server node was mis-entered. Instead of moving everything else than Z9PP-H, the command was given to move everything else than Q9PP-H. Therefore Z9PP-H (and everything else on the current node) was remapped with the fatal consequences we see now. Every live remap of a system, and this remap is no exception, works in such a way that all players in the system are disconnected and all ships are removed from space. The usual player logoff mechanics with all associated timers are just not relevant during downtime or live remaps. Please also note that further information is currently being compiled to give you a more detailed overview.
Why does this system require typed in system names instead of a physical drop box for what systems are on whichever node you are balancing out? |

Ayures
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
24
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:46:00 -
[473] - Quote
k4rpa wrote:No worries test pilots, your ships will be reimbursed very soon... oh wait.
Actually, with all the TiDi, our reimbursement guys in fleet were accepting and giving out reimbursements. :D |

Nethras
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
44
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:46:00 -
[474] - Quote
Remember when a CCP dev almost rebooted Tranquility on a 60 second timer? And CCP immediately patched things to make that a lot harder to do accidentally? This is 100x worse as a mistake, and the response better damn well reflect that (hint: "oops" is not a response). |

Ming Tso
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
9
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:46:00 -
[475] - Quote
k4rpa wrote:No worries test pilots, your ships will be reimbursed very soon... oh wait.
I have already submitted a petition to have my ship reimbursed, and I think that everyone else that lost a ship today should submit a reimbursement petition to CCP to compensate us for this notorious metagaming by Goon Spies.
Also, lol |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3765
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:46:00 -
[476] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. While I am not an engineer or server administrator I can give a brief overview: a live remap disconnects all players in the system and removes all ships from space similar to a downtime. The command to remap everything other than Z9PP-H from the current server node was mis-entered. Instead of moving everything else than Z9PP-H, the command was given to move everything else than Q9PP-H. Therefore Z9PP-H (and everything else on the current node) was remapped with the fatal consequences we see now. Every live remap of a system, and this remap is no exception, works in such a way that all players in the system are disconnected and all ships are removed from space. The usual player logoff mechanics with all associated timers are just not relevant during downtime or live remaps. Please also note that further information is currently being compiled to give you a more detailed overview. Logs show no discrepancies, perfectly fine, then?
Thanks for clearing that up.
There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
3959
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:47:00 -
[477] - Quote
Holy ******* **** at the amount of tinfoil in this thread. . |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3765
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:47:00 -
[478] - Quote
Nethras wrote:Remember when a CCP dev almost rebooted Tranquility on a 60 second timer? And CCP immediately patched things to make that a lot harder to do accidentally? This is 100x worse as a mistake, and the response better damn well reflect that (hint: "oops" is not a response). "oops" is a response
We just got it. DWI :condi: There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
217
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:47:00 -
[479] - Quote
Scooter McCabe wrote:TEST pilots dodging a fight It's a tactic we learned from you guys when we had your dreads tackled. You know, the Goon "Blueball" strategy. Don't be so mad.
Scooter McCabe wrote:Booda hiding under his own bed from a SOTA that involves a Q&A session. Booda and leadership are on comms with us right now, reading this forum thread and laughing at all of the Goon rage.
Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |

Thisnameblows
Dreggit
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:47:00 -
[480] - Quote
How is it possible that in the year 2013 I'm able to do live migrations of virtual machines from one piece of physical hardware to another without any kind of interruptions or downtime, but CCP can't move a single system in a spaceship game without shutting down the node and losing information from that system like aggression timers that really should have been stored persistently?
What is so ******* different about EVE's database and storage structures that you can't transfer data from one node to another live, and move players without disconnecting them? Add a popup box saying it will be degraded for a few minutes, add 100% tidi and pause the node if you have to. Literally any option would be better than the way it works now. |
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Scally Dog
Killing is Business Get Off My Lawn
6
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:47:00 -
[481] - Quote
Ayures wrote:k4rpa wrote:No worries test pilots, your ships will be reimbursed very soon... oh wait. Actually, with all the TiDi, our reimbursement guys in fleet were accepting and giving out reimbursements. :D
of course they were!, no wait, sorry, wrong thread |

Arrendis
Hephaestus LLC Fatal Ascension
19
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:48:00 -
[482] - Quote
Ayures wrote: We'll trade them for the metric ****-ton of CFC dreads we've had tackled when a node crashed and the pilots refused to log back in.
Sounds fine by me - my issue here isn't ZOMG, TEST CARRIERS LIVED. **** happens, battles turn, for all I know we could've been 20 seconds away from every supercapital in the game jumping in and magically shooting rainbow laser ponies out of their ass to save the day.
My issue is that in any modern IT infrastructure, state changes and image backups should be present - if any process can be used to completely crash a running server, simply enacting that process should trigger an archival imaging. At the very worst, a rewind of 5-20 minutes should be in available. None of that happened here. Instead, we got 'Oops, clean slate'.
Restoration to the last back-up would have been a perfectly acceptable option. We didn't get that. You didn't get that on the dreads. We all deserve that level of competence.
So really, WTF, CCP? |

bonder's
Knights of the Reclaimed Origin
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:48:00 -
[483] - Quote
I heard from a reliable source the node reset was deliberately caused from a bribe |

Zer Res
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:48:00 -
[484] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. While I am not an engineer or server administrator I can give a brief overview: a live remap disconnects all players in the system and removes all ships from space similar to a downtime. The command to remap everything other than Z9PP-H from the current server node was mis-entered. Instead of moving everything else than Z9PP-H, the command was given to move everything else than Q9PP-H. Therefore Z9PP-H (and everything else on the current node) was remapped with the fatal consequences we see now. Every live remap of a system, and this remap is no exception, works in such a way that all players in the system are disconnected and all ships are removed from space. The usual player logoff mechanics with all associated timers are just not relevant during downtime or live remaps. Please also note that further information is currently being compiled to give you a more detailed overview. you know there is no Q9PP system right? maybe you should tell that to your software too
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Tore Vest
324
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:48:00 -
[485] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:digi wrote:I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it. We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this. We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do.
You know.... If you had'nt taken down the node... Things would just be worse... Goons would probably jumped in supers... N3 TEST PL would have counterdopped... Local would rise to 4000... and server would have crashed for shure....
Nice save there... No troll. |

Hawkspur Firestarter
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
26
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:48:00 -
[486] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. While I am not an engineer or server administrator I can give a brief overview: a live remap disconnects all players in the system and removes all ships from space similar to a downtime. The command to remap everything other than Z9PP-H from the current server node was mis-entered. Instead of moving everything else than Z9PP-H, the command was given to move everything else than Q9PP-H. Therefore Z9PP-H (and everything else on the current node) was remapped with the fatal consequences we see now. Every live remap of a system, and this remap is no exception, works in such a way that all players in the system are disconnected and all ships are removed from space. The usual player logoff mechanics with all associated timers are just not relevant during downtime or live remaps. Please also note that further information is currently being compiled to give you a more detailed overview. Logs show no discrepancies, perfectly fine, then? Thanks for clearing that up.
You seem upset.
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Nightsword
Distinguished Gentleman's Boating Club Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:48:00 -
[487] - Quote
Relay: Li3 From: [email protected]/7a15f3a8 Body: ----------> This is a message from the Broadcasting and Alert System<--------- I am incredibly proud of this alliance! You warriors that stayed from beginning to end of that fleet are heroes! Those that joined in later....same thing. That was one of THE most epic battles in the history of this game. You can now officially say "I was there" Well done Li3! 6.85% participation as well in that fleet. Excellent stuff! Let's keep it up...and maybe beat -FA-'s 8.39% next time.
Thank you Li3 for helping us claim a strategic victory!! And no worries CCP everyone makes mistakes. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3765
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:48:00 -
[488] - Quote
Schadenfraud wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. While I am not an engineer or server administrator I can give a brief overview: a live remap disconnects all players in the system and removes all ships from space similar to a downtime. The command to remap everything other than Z9PP-H from the current server node was mis-entered. Instead of moving everything else than Z9PP-H, the command was given to move everything else than Q9PP-H. Therefore Z9PP-H (and everything else on the current node) was remapped with the fatal consequences we see now. Every live remap of a system, and this remap is no exception, works in such a way that all players in the system are disconnected and all ships are removed from space. The usual player logoff mechanics with all associated timers are just not relevant during downtime or live remaps. Please also note that further information is currently being compiled to give you a more detailed overview. Why does this system require typed in system names instead of a physical drop box for what systems are on whichever node you are balancing out? Why not.
(Possibly just old code?) There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

patrick elektros
Demon-War-Lords Fatal Ascension
3
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:48:00 -
[489] - Quote
Needmore Longcat wrote:ahahaha "ccp is working for test"
I thought ccp worked for goons. make up your minds.
HAHAHA, i think CCP works for the benefit of it's self, they keep this war going and they get more ships killed.... eventually, lol and it was CCP worked for BoB/Reikoku/IT, from which if I understand correctly is not Executive Outcomes, Raiden, Black Legion and some guys in Tribute of which the old bossman is still a part of... I don't think it matters much whom CCP works for as long as they let the good fights keep going. So gripe all you want but at least they tried :p
...and no i wasn't there, wrong time
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Leonard Ashcroft
Repercussus RAZOR Alliance
7
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:48:00 -
[490] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. While I am not an engineer or server administrator I can give a brief overview: a live remap disconnects all players in the system and removes all ships from space similar to a downtime. The command to remap everything other than Z9PP-H from the current server node was mis-entered. Instead of moving everything else than Z9PP-H, the command was given to move everything else than Q9PP-H. Therefore Z9PP-H (and everything else on the current node) was remapped with the fatal consequences we see now. Every live remap of a system, and this remap is no exception, works in such a way that all players in the system are disconnected and all ships are removed from space. The usual player logoff mechanics with all associated timers are just not relevant during downtime or live remaps. Please also note that further information is currently being compiled to give you a more detailed overview.
I'm still waiting on my male exotic dancer. Ginger if you have one. |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3765
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:49:00 -
[491] - Quote
Zer Res wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. While I am not an engineer or server administrator I can give a brief overview: a live remap disconnects all players in the system and removes all ships from space similar to a downtime. The command to remap everything other than Z9PP-H from the current server node was mis-entered. Instead of moving everything else than Z9PP-H, the command was given to move everything else than Q9PP-H. Therefore Z9PP-H (and everything else on the current node) was remapped with the fatal consequences we see now. Every live remap of a system, and this remap is no exception, works in such a way that all players in the system are disconnected and all ships are removed from space. The usual player logoff mechanics with all associated timers are just not relevant during downtime or live remaps. Please also note that further information is currently being compiled to give you a more detailed overview. you know there is no Q9PP system right? maybe you should tell that to your software too Pfft. There's also only ONE named system in Syndicate. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Zeph1rus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:49:00 -
[492] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. While I am not an engineer or server administrator I can give a brief overview: a live remap disconnects all players in the system and removes all ships from space similar to a downtime. The command to remap everything other than Z9PP-H from the current server node was mis-entered. Instead of moving everything else than Z9PP-H, the command was given to move everything else than Q9PP-H. Therefore Z9PP-H (and everything else on the current node) was remapped with the fatal consequences we see now. Every live remap of a system, and this remap is no exception, works in such a way that all players in the system are disconnected and all ships are removed from space. The usual player logoff mechanics with all associated timers are just not relevant during downtime or live remaps. Please also note that further information is currently being compiled to give you a more detailed overview.
Q9PP-H obviously doesn't exist. Why do your tools allow you to exclude non-existant systems. Do you even bother with syntax checks on your admin commands? Maybe even a Y/N prompt might have saved your stupid asses.
This is utterly shoddy
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Apocryphal Noise
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:50:00 -
[493] - Quote
Danny Calamity wrote:k4rpa wrote:No worries test pilots, your ships will be reimbursed very soon... oh wait. What happened to TFIs and Tengufleet again?
Minmatar factionwar sucks **** and tengu's are suboptimal in the current meta. They were pretty good back when everyone was using loki's but against sentry domi's and rokhs, not so much. So now we're using Mega's and Loki's. |

pmchem
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
546
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:50:00 -
[494] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote: Please also note that further information is currently being compiled to give you a more detailed overview.
Don't forget to include how many additional upvotes and pro-CCP posts reddit.com/r/eve will get after this, since that is an obvious metric for the current group of developers and engineers. @pmchem on twitter || GARPA || Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |

Growler Dude
Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement
3
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:50:00 -
[495] - Quote
CDLoon wrote:Got to say, I'm enjoying the smug posting from N3 and TEST.
Because getting kicked off the server to save your ships is a victory right ?
^ This and +1 to the shitstorm. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3765
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:50:00 -
[496] - Quote
patrick elektros wrote:Needmore Longcat wrote:ahahaha "ccp is working for test"
I thought ccp worked for goons. make up your minds. HAHAHA, i think CCP works for the benefit of it's self, they keep this war going and they get more ships killed.... eventually, lol and it was CCP worked for BoB/Reikoku/IT, from which if I understand correctly is not Executive Outcomes, Raiden, Black Legion and some guys in Tribute of which the old bossman is still a part of... I don't think it matters much whom CCP works for as long as they let the good fights keep going. So gripe all you want but at least they tried :p ...and no i wasn't there, wrong time Not so much CCP in the past as maybe one person.
Not so much CCP in the present, but one person typing in and opps. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Kari Juptris
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
150
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:50:00 -
[497] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:
The command to remap everything other than Z9PP-H from the current server node was mis-entered. Instead of moving everything else than Z9PP-H, the command was given to move everything else than Q9PP-H. Therefore Z9PP-H (and everything else on the current node) was remapped with the fatal consequences we see now.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha  |

Zenk Faswell
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
25
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:50:00 -
[498] - Quote
Literally high-diving into an Olympic-sized pool of Goon tears. |

LASSEIGNE
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:50:00 -
[499] - Quote
:smug: |

Arkon Olacar
Imperial Guardians Tribal Band
232
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:50:00 -
[500] - Quote
Ayures wrote:Arrendis wrote:GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. This. We'll trade them for the metric ****-ton of CFC dreads we've had tackled when a node crashed and the pilots refused to log back in.
"The rest will be in the blog rather than invented at the keyboards of forum posters and bloggers." -á-á-á-á-á-á-á - CCP Sreegs, 23/06/2012
Umad forum warriors? |
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Travasty Space
Pilots of Epic Tribal Band
16
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:51:00 -
[501] - Quote
The Slayer wrote:Montolio wrote:This is ****** up CCP. I don't care if my side benefited this time, you've been doing **** like this the entire war and messing up the natural course of events for all sides.
You need to have some serious reviews to prevent these problems from impacting the sandbox gameplay you tout as a core feature. Props to the one test guy I expected to be crowing the loudest for understanding this could have happened to either of us.
+ Stuff happens and it has been different mistakes, good/bad depending on how you look at it. |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1825
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:51:00 -
[502] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
As a Systems Administrator myself I know the best time to perform maintenance on a server is when it is at it's peak usage by the clients. Hell not a day goes by that I don't just randomly "Tweak" SQL performance during our busiest part of the day. Sure sometimes everything comes screaming to a halt, but let me tell you bud, that one day I can eak 1% extra performance out of the cluster and ~no one notices~ ... that **** goes on my resume. |

Edward Pierce
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
70
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:51:00 -
[503] - Quote
CCP 2013 wrote:Can't tell the difference between a Q and a Z. A 2000 person fleet fight is ruined because your software engineers don't know how to use a keyboard? This is actually quite amusing. You guys run a game with over 500,000 subscribers, but you can't make sure you're moving the right node. |

Sophaya Fortelleren
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
6
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:51:00 -
[504] - Quote
I would likely be very mad at this if I was in the CFC, but as I'm not... LOLOLOLOLOLOL QQ CFC, QQ Goons, YEAAAAAAAAH BOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII! |

WhiteHalo117
SHUN THE NON BELIEVER Li3 Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:51:00 -
[505] - Quote
TBH **** happens 7 hours well spent, while I personally feel a little cheated there toward the end there will be more fights and more battles to be had and won/lost. GF Test you got lucky this time . |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3765
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:52:00 -
[506] - Quote
pmchem wrote:CCP Phantom wrote: Please also note that further information is currently being compiled to give you a more detailed overview.
Don't forget to include how many additional upvotes and pro-CCP posts reddit.com/r/eve will get after this, since that is an obvious metric for the current group of developers and engineers. CCP received: Positive Karma ! There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Elendiathin
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:52:00 -
[507] - Quote
God dammit CCP. This is unnacceptable. You just saved hundreds of Mega's from my killboards, we're talking 400+ here. This is an absolute disgrace and absurd, and I demand they be added to my killboards immediately. |

MestariBation
Fistful of Finns Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
3
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:52:00 -
[508] - Quote
test and pets were so winning this one but goon hack ddos saved cfc fleet good job |

Dabigorangebarge
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:52:00 -
[509] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. While I am not an engineer or server administrator I can give a brief overview: a live remap disconnects all players in the system and removes all ships from space similar to a downtime. The command to remap everything other than Z9PP-H from the current server node was mis-entered. Instead of moving everything else than Z9PP-H, the command was given to move everything else than Q9PP-H. Therefore Z9PP-H (and everything else on the current node) was remapped with the fatal consequences we see now. Every live remap of a system, and this remap is no exception, works in such a way that all players in the system are disconnected and all ships are removed from space. The usual player logoff mechanics with all associated timers are just not relevant during downtime or live remaps. Please also note that further information is currently being compiled to give you a more detailed overview.
All I want to hear is "There was a screwup, the one responsible is currently seeking alternate employment." |

Aprudena Gist
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
51
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:52:00 -
[510] - Quote
why would you even be typing in the name why wouldn't be be based upon the number of players in system and do it by the highest. |
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Phee Phi PhoPhum
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:52:00 -
[511] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote: Every live remap of a system, and this remap is no exception, works in such a way that all players in the system are disconnected and all ships are removed from space. The usual player logoff mechanics with all associated timers are just not relevant during downtime or live remaps.
Please also note that further information is currently being compiled to give you a more detailed overview.
Sounds like its time to re-enginner this. Put it on the list. At the top.
ps. informative reply Phantom. Thanks.
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Ayures
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
24
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:52:00 -
[512] - Quote
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:CFC Capital fleet gets saved by a boo boo 3 or 4 times, TEST grumbles and gets on with their lives.
TEST Capital fleet gets saved by a boo boo, and the SA Furries and their pets go on a Posting CTA.
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Duncan McClain
Jolly Codgers Get Off My Lawn
5
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:52:00 -
[513] - Quote
Captain Thunk wrote:PL was about to jump in and DESTROY the goon fleet.
I'm pretty unhappy with what could be Goon engineers taking drastic action to save their Goon Brosefs.
Try not to get too mad about this Test guys, we'll get 'em next time!
Wow, that is some serious spin |

Delta Jax
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
44
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:53:00 -
[514] - Quote
Edward Pierce wrote:CCP 2013 wrote:Can't tell the difference between a Q and a Z. A 2000 person fleet fight is ruined because your software engineers don't know how to use a keyboard? This is actually quite amusing. You guys run a game with over 500,000 subscribers, but you can't make sure you're moving the right node.
You sound pretty mad, perhaps you should get a job as a system engineer, schitz easy right? Twitter : -á@DeltaJax
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3765
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:53:00 -
[515] - Quote
Sophaya Fortelleren wrote:I would likely be very mad at this if I was in the CFC, but as I'm not... LOLOLOLOLOLOL QQ CFC, QQ Goons, YEAAAAAAAAH BOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII! Hell yeah!! TEST will never fall ! TEST Alliance, Cannot Be Ignored.
Montoltio foretold the fall of the goons, forward to VFK !! There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Tector
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
82
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:53:00 -
[516] - Quote
Disastro wrote:Thanks ccp for helping us not finish off the Bubbled Test capitals. We didnt want those capital kills anyway. You dudes are pro. Keep doing what you are doing. Awesome job. To err is human after all....
To err repeatedly is CCP. |

Daktar Jaxs
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:54:00 -
[517] - Quote
When you are employed to do a job making a mistake major mistake isn't a oh whoops, messed up there, carry on guys. I am frankly stunned at CCP's attitude to this. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3765
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:54:00 -
[518] - Quote
SmilingVagrant wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. As a Systems Administrator myself I know the best time to perform maintenance on a server is when it is at it's peak usage by the clients. Hell not a day goes by that I don't just randomly "Tweak" SQL performance during our busiest part of the day. Sure sometimes everything comes screaming to a halt, but let me tell you bud, that one day I can eak 1% extra performance out of the cluster and ~no one notices~ ... that **** goes on my resume. You're too good for CCP.
You don't mess up. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3765
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:54:00 -
[519] - Quote
Tector wrote:Disastro wrote:Thanks ccp for helping us not finish off the Bubbled Test capitals. We didnt want those capital kills anyway. You dudes are pro. Keep doing what you are doing. Awesome job. To err is human after all.... To err repeatedly is CCP. It's called staying the course. Sometimes you just gotta :condi: There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

WhiteHalo117
SHUN THE NON BELIEVER Li3 Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:55:00 -
[520] - Quote
You all drink way to much cool aid. |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3765
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:55:00 -
[521] - Quote
Duncan McClain wrote:Captain Thunk wrote:PL was about to jump in and DESTROY the goon fleet.
I'm pretty unhappy with what could be Goon engineers taking drastic action to save their Goon Brosefs.
Try not to get too mad about this Test guys, we'll get 'em next time! Wow, that is some serious spin TEST had us right where they wanted us, their gambit of the carriers was about to pay off.
Grr goons, we'll murder you dead next time !!
There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Ayures
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
36
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:55:00 -
[522] - Quote
Daktar Jaxs wrote:When you are employed to do a job making a mistake major mistake isn't a oh whoops, messed up there, carry on guys. I am frankly stunned at CCP's attitude to this.
You guys are just upset that a node crash happened in our favor instead of yours for once. |

Arrendis
Hephaestus LLC Fatal Ascension
21
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:55:00 -
[523] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote: The command to remap everything other than Z9PP-H from the current server node was mis-entered. Instead of moving everything else than Z9PP-H, the command was given to move everything else than Q9PP-H.
Was this on a dvorak keyboard? because Q and Z aren't exactly an easy typo on a QWERTY.
PURGE DVORAKS. 
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Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
119
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:55:00 -
[524] - Quote
Schadenfraud wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. While I am not an engineer or server administrator I can give a brief overview: a live remap disconnects all players in the system and removes all ships from space similar to a downtime. The command to remap everything other than Z9PP-H from the current server node was mis-entered. Instead of moving everything else than Z9PP-H, the command was given to move everything else than Q9PP-H. Therefore Z9PP-H (and everything else on the current node) was remapped with the fatal consequences we see now. Every live remap of a system, and this remap is no exception, works in such a way that all players in the system are disconnected and all ships are removed from space. The usual player logoff mechanics with all associated timers are just not relevant during downtime or live remaps. Please also note that further information is currently being compiled to give you a more detailed overview. Why does this system require typed in system names instead of a physical drop box for what systems are on whichever node you are balancing out?
A majority of all server administration is done via command line pretty much world wide. GUIs waste system resources, and just limit what you can do. Not to mention it's rather hard to automate repititve tasks. Many tasks are automated through scripts. |

StryP1
hirr RAZOR Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:56:00 -
[525] - Quote
MyBoy friday wrote:I'm not going to get on the CCP is Test argument, although it sounds very suspicious at this point. I just don't care about that.
However, it seems quite reasonable to ask the question, when will CCP begin firing or reassigning their employees who are not capable of doing their jobs? This is a huge customer service issue. You expect players to:
1. pay for the service 2. risk their earned in-game assets in order to generate content in the game according to the structure that CCP alone has devised. 3. attract new players/subscribers
And yet, you seem incapable of properly vetting employees to insure that they posses the skills to support a simple service. This was not an act of God, or serendipity. It was an act committed by a CCP employee, accidental or not, which caused tangible losses to it's customers. There is NO other industry where compensation would not be immediately granted to the customer.
Just saying.
Maybe some time on a mop will sharpen your sysadmin's skills.
This. |

Leask
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:56:00 -
[526] - Quote
CCP aims to make massive battles like this one the center of their game, but when they happen there is always a problem (human error being a huge one) that leads to its early conclusion.
How many fights have been ruined by such occurrences? I think we can all name a few, and all of them lead to mistrust, accusations and rage. Your increasing inability to sustain such events does not inspire the confidence required to initiate such epic player created content. Regardless of Goon benefit or Test benefit these occurrence are numerous and continue to be answered with simple apologies.
Some ounce of proof that CCP is making an effort to fix such problems from happening again would be much better then feeding us meaningless statements like "sorry, but it won't happen again!" |

Mohr Cowbell
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
510
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:56:00 -
[527] - Quote
Zeph1rus wrote: Q9PP-H obviously doesn't exist. Why do your tools allow you to exclude non-existant systems. Do you even bother with syntax checks on your admin commands? Maybe even a Y/N prompt might have saved your stupid asses.
Stay classy, GSF. |

Visione
Black Scorpions Inc Circle-Of-Two
5
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:56:00 -
[528] - Quote
Daktar Jaxs wrote:When you are employed to do a job making a mistake major mistake isn't a oh whoops, messed up there, carry on guys. I am frankly stunned at CCP's attitude to this.
it happend like freacking 15 minutes ago, PR might not even been called out of bed yet. so just wait before you make a comment like that, wouldn't suprise me if they come with a public statement/news **** |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3765
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:57:00 -
[529] - Quote
Daktar Jaxs wrote:When you are employed to do a job making a mistake major mistake isn't a oh whoops, messed up there, carry on guys. I am frankly stunned at CCP's attitude to this. :condi:
I got too brave drinking ham, lost... my discretion ... There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Delta Jax
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
46
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:57:00 -
[530] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. As a Systems Administrator myself I know the best time to perform maintenance on a server is when it is at it's peak usage by the clients. Hell not a day goes by that I don't just randomly "Tweak" SQL performance during our busiest part of the day. Sure sometimes everything comes screaming to a halt, but let me tell you bud, that one day I can eak 1% extra performance out of the cluster and ~no one notices~ ... that **** goes on my resume. You're too good for CCP. You don't mess up.
I don't think a lot of people actually grasp what they were doing, it isn't tweaking a database. It's like VMotion'ing a server when it's host gets overloaded, 99.999% of the time it goes fine. Twitter : -á@DeltaJax
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Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
225
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:57:00 -
[531] - Quote
SmilingVagrant wrote:As a Systems Administrator myself Tell us more about your professional credentials. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |

patrick elektros
Demon-War-Lords Fatal Ascension
3
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:57:00 -
[532] - Quote
Zenk Faswell wrote:Literally high-diving into an Olympic-sized pool of Goon tears.
only cause you would have lost almost all of your cap fleet, failed troll =p |

teamz1ssou
E.M.P. Industries Gentlemen's Agreement
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:57:00 -
[533] - Quote
CCP this is a ******* joke.
Please update us on who gets fired for this shitstorm. |

Le Creed
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
4
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:57:00 -
[534] - Quote
Elendiathin wrote:God dammit CCP. This is unnacceptable. You just saved hundreds of Mega's from my killboards, we're talking 400+ here. This is an absolute disgrace and absurd, and I demand they be added to my killboards immediately.
That is why you were told not to log back in correct? |

Wibla
Tactical Narcotics Team
140
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:58:00 -
[535] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:
While I am not an engineer or server administrator I can give a brief overview: a live remap disconnects all players in the system and removes all ships from space similar to a downtime.
The command to remap everything other than Z9PP-H from the current server node was mis-entered. Instead of moving everything else than Z9PP-H, the command was given to move everything else than Q9PP-H. Therefore Z9PP-H (and everything else on the current node) was remapped with the fatal consequences we see now.
Every live remap of a system, and this remap is no exception, works in such a way that all players in the system are disconnected and all ships are removed from space. The usual player logoff mechanics with all associated timers are just not relevant during downtime or live remaps.
Please also note that further information is currently being compiled to give you a more detailed overview.
I would say that the server state before remap is extremely relevant.
I have no qualms with a node remap during a fight if the server state is saved, which means that both (all) parties involved in the fight remain locked into the fight and cannot chicken out just because of the remap taking place. |

Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
225
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:58:00 -
[536] - Quote
Is it safe to say that Test won today? Because if the CFC won, this sure is a lot of crying. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3765
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:58:00 -
[537] - Quote
Visione wrote:Daktar Jaxs wrote:When you are employed to do a job making a mistake major mistake isn't a oh whoops, messed up there, carry on guys. I am frankly stunned at CCP's attitude to this. it happend like freacking 15 minutes ago, PR might not even been called out of bed yet. so just wait before you make a comment like that, wouldn't suprise me if they come with a public statement/news **** Yes, I'd like to hear their carefully crafted "yes, after much contemplation of the universe... screw you."
Given how our CEO updates go, perhaps they should hire The Mittani to help out. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Primus Fortune
Golden Construction Inc. Legacy Rising
2
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:58:00 -
[538] - Quote
i guess military grade hardware is only as good as its operator? all that isk and no anti derp program.
http://m.pcgamer.com/2013/06/15/eve-online
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Johan March
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:59:00 -
[539] - Quote
I'm going to just give CCP the benefit of the doubt. It sucks, but c'est le vie.
But the smugness from TEST et. al. is so false. But for CCP's "oops" your entire capital fleet would've been annihilated. You might want to dial the smugposting, just a bit, considering your asses got saved by an oops.
On the upside, when the Mrs. called for dinner, I just walked downstairs.
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Scally Dog
Killing is Business Get Off My Lawn
6
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:59:00 -
[540] - Quote
Sophaya Fortelleren wrote:I would likely be very mad at this if I was in the CFC, but as I'm not... LOLOLOLOLOLOL QQ CFC, QQ Goons, YEAAAAAAAAH BOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!
Enjoy your victorious triumph, it only prolongs the bleeding |
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Arrgthepirate
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
79
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:59:00 -
[541] - Quote
I hope the poor nerd who ****** up only has to work weekends for a month or something and doesn't get fired. |

Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore
493
|
Posted - 2013.07.04 23:59:00 -
[542] - Quote
Le Creed wrote:Elendiathin wrote:God dammit CCP. This is unnacceptable. You just saved hundreds of Mega's from my killboards, we're talking 400+ here. This is an absolute disgrace and absurd, and I demand they be added to my killboards immediately. That is why you were told not to log back in correct?
Get back to your cage Pet. |

Schadenfraud
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:00:00 -
[543] - Quote
Jack Tronic wrote:Schadenfraud wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:GRIEV3R wrote:In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?
They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.
I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.
Please explain CCP. While I am not an engineer or server administrator I can give a brief overview: a live remap disconnects all players in the system and removes all ships from space similar to a downtime. The command to remap everything other than Z9PP-H from the current server node was mis-entered. Instead of moving everything else than Z9PP-H, the command was given to move everything else than Q9PP-H. Therefore Z9PP-H (and everything else on the current node) was remapped with the fatal consequences we see now. Every live remap of a system, and this remap is no exception, works in such a way that all players in the system are disconnected and all ships are removed from space. The usual player logoff mechanics with all associated timers are just not relevant during downtime or live remaps. Please also note that further information is currently being compiled to give you a more detailed overview. Why does this system require typed in system names instead of a physical drop box for what systems are on whichever node you are balancing out? A majority of all server administration is done via command line pretty much world wide. GUIs waste system resources, and just limit what you can do. Not to mention it's rather hard to automate repititve tasks. Many tasks are automated through scripts.
Well even if it isn't GUI, and I do understand that reasoning, why is not an auto-complete based on available systems to be moved from the node?
And why is there no sanity checking for the inputs?
There are about 10 different problems with "Q9PP" and only one or two of those are related to any possible GUI or GUI-like management utility. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8354
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:00:00 -
[544] - Quote
"military-grade hardware" means it's outdated by several generations and made by the lowest bidder Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3765
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:00:00 -
[545] - Quote
Johan March wrote:I'm going to just give CCP the benefit of the doubt. It sucks, but c'est le vie.
But the smugness from TEST et. al. is so false. But for CCP's "oops" your entire capital fleet would've been annihilated. You might want to dial the smugposting, just a bit, considering your asses got saved by an oops.
On the upside, when the Mrs. called for dinner, I just walked downstairs. What did you have for dinner? There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Ayures
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
36
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:00:00 -
[546] - Quote
teamz1ssou wrote:CCP this is a ******* joke.
Please update us on who gets fired for this shitstorm.
It was probably the same guy that keeps saving goon dreads. |

Le Creed
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
4
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:01:00 -
[547] - Quote
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Is it safe to say that Test won today? Because if the CFC won, this sure is a lot of crying.
The CFC won the fight by a longshot but was denied the ability to curbstomp the entire TEST capital fleet, which would probably have ended the war. |

Elendiathin
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:01:00 -
[548] - Quote
Le Creed wrote:Elendiathin wrote:God dammit CCP. This is unnacceptable. You just saved hundreds of Mega's from my killboards, we're talking 400+ here. This is an absolute disgrace and absurd, and I demand they be added to my killboards immediately. That is why you were told not to log back in correct?
We're being polite and letting you extract your ships safely. Wouldn't want to dunk so hard that you won't field battleships again for ages. Fights are fun. |

Danny Calamity
TunnelSnakes Test Alliance Please Ignore
16
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:01:00 -
[549] - Quote
Ayures wrote:teamz1ssou wrote:CCP this is a ******* joke.
Please update us on who gets fired for this shitstorm. It was probably the same guy that keeps saving goon dreads.
Shh, don't talk about that. Goon leadership never told the line members that happened. Can't let Goon morale take another hit or the march on VFK will be rather boring. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3765
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:02:00 -
[550] - Quote
Andski wrote:"military-grade hardware" means it's outdated by several generations and made by the lowest bidder ....
Hmm, hadn't thought of it that way. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |
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Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
519
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:02:00 -
[551] - Quote
Andski wrote:"military-grade hardware" means it's outdated by several generations and made by the lowest bidder no my ~gaming~ motherboard says military grade that means its good |

Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
519
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:02:00 -
[552] - Quote
seriously it does, it's hilarious |

Thisnameblows
Dreggit
0
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:02:00 -
[553] - Quote
Andski wrote:"military-grade hardware" means it's outdated by several generations and made by the lowest bidder If I recall the military grade hardware specifically is SSDs which at the time were not available to anyone else. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3765
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:02:00 -
[554] - Quote
Sir Marksalot wrote:Andski wrote:"military-grade hardware" means it's outdated by several generations and made by the lowest bidder no my ~gaming~ motherboard says military grade that means its good I'll sell you a republic fleet firetail for 1mil.
Oh actually it was a normal one for 1bil. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Voyan Ageri
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
15
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:02:00 -
[555] - Quote
Le Creed wrote:Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Is it safe to say that Test won today? Because if the CFC won, this sure is a lot of crying. The CFC won the fight by a longshot but was denied the ability to curbstomp the entire TEST capital fleet, which would probably have ended the war.
Keep dreaming mate  |

Leask
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:02:00 -
[556] - Quote
Ayures wrote:teamz1ssou wrote:CCP this is a ******* joke.
Please update us on who gets fired for this shitstorm. It was probably the same guy that keeps saving goon dreads.
Regardless, it doesn't change the fact that it shouldn't be happening. Be it Test or Goon benefit these incidents are growing in occurrence and ruin game play. |

Le Creed
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
4
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:03:00 -
[557] - Quote
Elendiathin wrote:Le Creed wrote:Elendiathin wrote:God dammit CCP. This is unnacceptable. You just saved hundreds of Mega's from my killboards, we're talking 400+ here. This is an absolute disgrace and absurd, and I demand they be added to my killboards immediately. That is why you were told not to log back in correct? We're being polite and letting you extract your ships safely. Wouldn't want to dunk so hard that you won't field battleships again for ages. Fights are fun. Of course, my mistake. |

Bozo duFromage
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
0
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:03:00 -
[558] - Quote
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:Le Creed wrote:Elendiathin wrote:God dammit CCP. This is unnacceptable. You just saved hundreds of Mega's from my killboards, we're talking 400+ here. This is an absolute disgrace and absurd, and I demand they be added to my killboards immediately. That is why you were told not to log back in correct? Get back to your cage Pet.
Le mastur tr0ll |

Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
142
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:03:00 -
[559] - Quote
BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
suck it goons Oderint Dum Metuant |

Ju'Kan
Serene Vendetta Li3 Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:03:00 -
[560] - Quote
I just find it so *incredibly* hard to believe that Tranquility does not have a 'Are you sure you want to do this?' or 'Doing this will cause the node to drop!' warning prompts on the admin side, which could have prevented this. |
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GoodSamaritan
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort Fatal Ascension
13
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:03:00 -
[561] - Quote
CCP fixing things is like a drunk driver at the wheel of an ambulance.
I'm not alone in saying this: please stop trying to fix things right as they happen instead of iterating when issues are fully understood. The rush to do good wrecked the experience of many who I'm sure after 7 hours of tidi would have happily dealt with the additional two to finish off what they started. |

Gnoshia
Section 8. Fatal Ascension
46
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:03:00 -
[562] - Quote
Not happy about this at all. I don't know what to say. |

Delta Jax
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
46
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:03:00 -
[563] - Quote
Andski wrote:
"military-grade hardware" means it's outdated by several generations and made by the lowest bidder
That's actually pretty accurate
Twitter : -á@DeltaJax
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3765
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:03:00 -
[564] - Quote
Le Creed wrote:Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Is it safe to say that Test won today? Because if the CFC won, this sure is a lot of crying. The CFC won the fight by a longshot but was denied the ability to curbstomp the entire TEST capital fleet, which would probably have ended the war. Shrug. Sorry, hope you don't mind waiting a little longer for that fountain space. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Arkon Olacar
Imperial Guardians Tribal Band
236
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:03:00 -
[565] - Quote
Ayures wrote:teamz1ssou wrote:CCP this is a ******* joke.
Please update us on who gets fired for this shitstorm. It was probably the same guy that keeps saving goon dreads.
"The rest will be in the blog rather than invented at the keyboards of forum posters and bloggers." -á-á-á-á-á-á-á - CCP Sreegs, 23/06/2012
Umad forum warriors? |

Chase Hakoke
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:04:00 -
[566] - Quote
lol you guys think you would have actually killed 112 TEST carriers before this escalated? LOL. Test would have dropped supers... then the CFC... then all TEST friends and then all the cfc supers would die. You guys should be thanking CCP. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3765
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:04:00 -
[567] - Quote
GoodSamaritan wrote:CCP fixing things is like a drunk driver at the wheel of an ambulance.
I'm not alone in saying this: please stop trying to fix things right as they happen instead of iterating when issues are fully understood. The rush to do good wrecked the experience of many who I'm sure after 7 hours of tidi would have happily dealt with the additional two to finish off what they started. Don't worry, if the goons return it means that they bent over and took it.
If they don't, problem solved.
Logging in now. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Ayures
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
36
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:05:00 -
[568] - Quote
Danny Calamity wrote:Ayures wrote:teamz1ssou wrote:CCP this is a ******* joke.
Please update us on who gets fired for this shitstorm. It was probably the same guy that keeps saving goon dreads. Shh, don't talk about that. Goon leadership never told the line members that happened. Can't let Goon morale take another hit or the march on VFK will be rather boring.
****, you're right. I wouldn't want to interfere with the narrative. |

Jarl Isensonn
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:05:00 -
[569] - Quote
CEO Rockhound wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again. :RoyOfCa:
:RoyOfCa: |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3765
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:05:00 -
[570] - Quote
Chase Hakoke wrote:lol you guys think you would have actually killed 112 TEST carriers before this escalated? LOL. Test would have dropped supers... then the CFC... then all TEST friends and then all the cfc supers would die. You guys should be thanking CCP. Oh yes, using your tracking titans on the battleships. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |
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Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
519
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:05:00 -
[571] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Sir Marksalot wrote:Andski wrote:"military-grade hardware" means it's outdated by several generations and made by the lowest bidder no my ~gaming~ motherboard says military grade that means its good I'll sell you a republic fleet firetail for 1mil. Oh actually it was a normal one for 1bil.
It's a decent midrange board that cost me an entire $100. It's just that higher end computer parts always have the dumbest ******* marketing gimmicks ever. |

Tu'yak Marowshay
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
43
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:05:00 -
[572] - Quote
The butt hurt from the goonies is A+ would and will read again. |

Emcera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:05:00 -
[573] - Quote
So what I'm getting from this is that the "Remap everything except system X" command doesn't have sanity checking to make sure that system X exists.
Why not? |

Jonas Vexxor
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:06:00 -
[574] - Quote
The Great Conspiracy
http://i.imgur.com/NgvSDXH.png |

Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore
493
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:06:00 -
[575] - Quote
Hey CFC Furries, I got an Idea. You stop DDoS'ing our Services everytime you bring out Capitals, and we tell our boys at CCP to give you a fair fight. |

Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
422
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:06:00 -
[576] - Quote
LMAO @ you space jockeys crying - i've said for a while that undocking in new eden is an over-rated experience yet you kids still complain ?
Stay docked, Stay Safe. Fools and their Interstellar Kredits are Soon Parted. |

Delta Jax
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
46
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:06:00 -
[577] - Quote
Chase Hakoke wrote:lol you guys think you would have actually killed 112 TEST carriers before this escalated? LOL. Test would have dropped supers... then the CFC... then all TEST friends and then all the cfc supers would die. You guys should be thanking CCP.
It could have been the happening, then I could finally use this gif http://i.imgur.com/MPNLOrY.gif Twitter : -á@DeltaJax
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1127
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:06:00 -
[578] - Quote
Gnoshia wrote:Not happy about this at all. I don't know what to say.
i know it must be hard.
i will post like a goon for you:
herpa derpa derp derp. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Hybrid tech I ammo boost |

XxTheKmanxX
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
46
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:07:00 -
[579] - Quote
I would ask what idiot in their right mind would **** with the server during such a massive fight, but apparently they already answered themselves.. I hope CCP mans up to their mistake for screwing over one of the biggest fights in eve history... |

Jase Fairimor
Empty Wallets Inc. SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:07:00 -
[580] - Quote
after being involved with networks for 30 years now, I know one thing, **** happens when you can't afford for it to.
Was a hella ride though either way.
|
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Wibla
Tactical Narcotics Team
141
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:07:00 -
[581] - Quote
Chase Hakoke wrote:lol you guys think you would have actually killed 112 TEST carriers before this escalated? LOL. Test would have dropped supers... then the CFC... then all TEST friends and then all the cfc supers would die. You guys should be thanking CCP.
You're delusional and/or trolling.
We had you outnumbered close to 2:1 in battleships, your carriers were popping left and right, and your good friends (who left you to die earlier in the fight, btw) refused to escalate because we had 60+ dictors and 20+ hictors on the field. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3771
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:07:00 -
[582] - Quote
Boom Boom Longtime wrote:LMAO @ you space jockeys crying - i've said for a while that undocking in new eden is an over-rated experience yet you kids still complain ?
Stay docked, Stay Safe. We would have told test that but actualyl it's
Stay logged off. Stay safe. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8357
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:08:00 -
[583] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:The command to remap everything other than Z9PP-H from the current server node was mis-entered. Instead of moving everything else than Z9PP-H, the command was given to move everything else than Q9PP-H. Therefore Z9PP-H (and everything else on the current node) was remapped with the fatal consequences we see now.
It's unsurprising that your code doesn't check whether the excepted system actually exists on the node. A good coder always adds a sanity check regardless of how competent they expect the user to be. Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3771
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:08:00 -
[584] - Quote
Wibla wrote:Chase Hakoke wrote:lol you guys think you would have actually killed 112 TEST carriers before this escalated? LOL. Test would have dropped supers... then the CFC... then all TEST friends and then all the cfc supers would die. You guys should be thanking CCP. You're delusional and/or trolling. We had you outnumbered close to 2:1 in battleships, your carriers were popping left and right, and your good friends (who left you to die earlier in the fight, btw) refused to escalate because we had 60+ dictors and 20+ hictors on the field. Right where they wanted us. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Ciel Chocobo
I N E X T R E M I S Fidelas Constans
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:09:00 -
[585] - Quote
A disgrace CCP, you should be ashamed. |

Wexor Pinba
lolpatrol B-D
6
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:09:00 -
[586] - Quote
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLPATROL
gf.
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Spoofeydoo
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
5
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:09:00 -
[587] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
Thanks loads! I have a fruit cup and I'm not afraid to use it. |

Winter Alland
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
3
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:09:00 -
[588] - Quote
Watching the server go down on Mad Ani's stream right after he got people to spam links and drag in a few thousand viewers who didn't know what EVE was: glorious.
You just can't buy that kind of advertising! |

Yuluthu
The Drunken Empire Fatal Ascension
7
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:09:00 -
[589] - Quote
Chase Hakoke wrote:lol you guys think you would have actually killed 112 TEST carriers before this escalated? LOL. Test would have dropped supers... then the CFC... then all TEST friends and then all the cfc supers would die. You guys should be thanking CCP.
I hear supers are pretty good for blapping celestises and megathrons |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3771
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:09:00 -
[590] - Quote
Andski wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:The command to remap everything other than Z9PP-H from the current server node was mis-entered. Instead of moving everything else than Z9PP-H, the command was given to move everything else than Q9PP-H. Therefore Z9PP-H (and everything else on the current node) was remapped with the fatal consequences we see now. It's unsurprising that your code doesn't check whether the excepted system actually exists on the node. A good coder always adds a sanity check regardless of how competent they expect the user to be. Shrug. Nothing for it now. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |
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Sabrina Scatterbrain
United Souls Research And Development
5
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:09:00 -
[591] - Quote
CCP TEST: Hey CCP Dolan, before I press ENTER please confirm I have entered everything correctly.
CCP Dolan: Looks good to me, do it. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3771
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:09:00 -
[592] - Quote
Yuluthu wrote:Chase Hakoke wrote:lol you guys think you would have actually killed 112 TEST carriers before this escalated? LOL. Test would have dropped supers... then the CFC... then all TEST friends and then all the cfc supers would die. You guys should be thanking CCP. I hear supers are pretty good for blapping celestises and megathrons You can't RSD a titan. Checkmate goonie There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Powers Sa
665
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:09:00 -
[593] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote: The usual player logoff mechanics with all associated timers are just not relevant during downtime or live remaps.
Please also note that further information is currently being compiled to give you a more detailed overview.
I think everyone involved will disagree to the relevance. Vote Nullsec for CSM8 Mynnna || Kesper North || Kaleb Rysode || Malc00nis || Artctura || Unforgiven Storm |

Alexander Omega
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:10:00 -
[594] - Quote
Hey, CCP, why don't you give the CFC one free node crash at the time of our choosing? We get one 'get out of whelp free card' to match the one your engineer just handed test. |

MyBoy friday
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
10
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:10:00 -
[595] - Quote
Chase Hakoke wrote:lol you guys think you would have actually killed 112 TEST carriers before this escalated? LOL. Test would have dropped supers... then the CFC... then all TEST friends and then all the cfc supers would die. You guys should be thanking CCP.
You would have dropped supers how? My understanding is that the system was overloaded, with more CFC on the way. I'm guessing that if you would have dropped supers, some would have made it in and most would have been locked out by traffic control. If you have any information to the contrary, please share. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3771
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:10:00 -
[596] - Quote
Sabrina Scatterbrain wrote:CCP TEST: Hey CCP Dolan, before I press ENTER please confirm I have entered everything correctly.
CCP Dolan: Looks good to me, do it. The logs show nothing like that. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Chase Hakoke
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:10:00 -
[597] - Quote
Wibla wrote:Chase Hakoke wrote:lol you guys think you would have actually killed 112 TEST carriers before this escalated? LOL. Test would have dropped supers... then the CFC... then all TEST friends and then all the cfc supers would die. You guys should be thanking CCP. You're delusional and/or trolling. We had you outnumbered close to 2:1 in battleships, your carriers were popping left and right, and your good friends (who left you to die earlier in the fight, btw) refused to escalate because we had 60+ dictors and 20+ hictors on the field.
AND YET THE CFC DIDN'T DROP A SINGLE CAPITAL. And they know why they didn't either. 300 megas aint gonna do much against a super blob. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3771
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:10:00 -
[598] - Quote
Alexander Omega wrote:Hey, CCP, why don't you give the CFC one free node crash at the time of our choosing? We get one 'get out of whelp free card' to match the one your engineer just handed test. Only if it accidentally triggers and remaps VFK instead.
Or Jita There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Danny Calamity
TunnelSnakes Test Alliance Please Ignore
16
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:10:00 -
[599] - Quote
Andski wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:The command to remap everything other than Z9PP-H from the current server node was mis-entered. Instead of moving everything else than Z9PP-H, the command was given to move everything else than Q9PP-H. Therefore Z9PP-H (and everything else on the current node) was remapped with the fatal consequences we see now. It's unsurprising that your code doesn't check whether the excepted system actually exists on the node. A good coder always adds a sanity check regardless of how competent they expect the user to be.
You do realize how old the EVE codebase is, right? There's no guarantees of ease of integration even if this particular command was new. It's pretty :pohr: either way, but every programmer knows that this is just daily life. Decade-old code is never a good thing. |

Arrendis
Hephaestus LLC Fatal Ascension
22
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:11:00 -
[600] - Quote
Ayures wrote: ****, you're right. I wouldn't want to interfere with the narrative.
Ayures, seriously, why is this level of incompetence acceptable? When it happened to CFC dreads, why was it acceptable then? Modern IT systems should be creating archival images at regular intervals - intervals that actually shorten as usage increases due to the need to back-up a higher volume of data flow and state changes. Why is losing customer data acceptable, rather than a 5-10 minute (hell, 10% tidi, make it a half hour, an hour!) rollback?
You said (more than once) 'sure, we'll trade you for the dreads', and I'm saying that I think that'd be preferable to continued substandard service. I notice you don't seem to be respond to that - from me, or anyone else who's saying it. Why not?
Do you prefer substandard service? |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3771
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:11:00 -
[601] - Quote
Powers Sa wrote:CCP Phantom wrote: The usual player logoff mechanics with all associated timers are just not relevant during downtime or live remaps.
Please also note that further information is currently being compiled to give you a more detailed overview.
I think everyone involved will disagree to the relevance. We're irrelevant.
Only a small fraction of the playerbase. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Gnoshia
Section 8. Fatal Ascension
46
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:11:00 -
[602] - Quote
Alexander Omega wrote:Hey, CCP, why don't you give the CFC one free node crash at the time of our choosing? We get one 'get out of whelp free card' to match the one your engineer just handed test.
I second this. What's fair is fair. |

Wibla
Tactical Narcotics Team
141
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:11:00 -
[603] - Quote
Chase Hakoke wrote:Wibla wrote:Chase Hakoke wrote:lol you guys think you would have actually killed 112 TEST carriers before this escalated? LOL. Test would have dropped supers... then the CFC... then all TEST friends and then all the cfc supers would die. You guys should be thanking CCP. You're delusional and/or trolling. We had you outnumbered close to 2:1 in battleships, your carriers were popping left and right, and your good friends (who left you to die earlier in the fight, btw) refused to escalate because we had 60+ dictors and 20+ hictors on the field. AND YET THE CFC DIDN'T DROP A SINGLE CAPITAL. And they know why they didn't either. 300 megas aint gonna do much against a super blob.
We didn't have to. |

Le Creed
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
5
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:11:00 -
[604] - Quote
Chase Hakoke wrote:lol you guys think you would have actually killed 112 TEST carriers before this escalated? LOL. Test would have dropped supers... then the CFC... then all TEST friends and then all the cfc supers would die. You guys should be thanking CCP.
We killed at least 10-15 and there was no sign of an incoming escalation. You guys were keen to let the carriers die. Had you actually wished to escalate, you would have done so before you started shedding carriers faster than I could lock targets and fire. |

Voyan Ageri
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
16
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:12:00 -
[605] - Quote
Alexander Omega wrote:Hey, CCP, why don't you give the CFC one free node crash at the time of our choosing? We get one 'get out of whelp free card' to match the one your engineer just handed test.
Actually you've got it wrong - CCP still owes us 3 more.  |

Zhade Lezte
117
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:12:00 -
[606] - Quote
I've got to say that this all being because some CCP member fatfingered the first letter in a system name on their keyboard is pretty damn hilarious. But as others said, it seems there is a lot you can do to keep this from occurring in the future (IE: checking that the system in question actually exists before trying to remap with respect with it). |

octahexx Charante
Morior Invictus. The Retirement Club
77
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:12:00 -
[607] - Quote
tbh the tidi was pure hell in that system i think alot of people are glad it went down after spending 5 hours in it but they wont say that out loud..
also clearly test is a CIA CCP front.
Band Of Bees dont be mad there will be more fights :3 |

Yokomaki
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
9
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:12:00 -
[608] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Shamata wrote:CCP you just ****** one of the largets fleet battels in eve history... THANKS! In the attempt to improve the overall fight quality and node stability in the Z9PP system at 22:41 UTC by moving away all non-critical services from this node, our engineers unfortuntely made a mistake and actually moved the critical system from the current server node instead of moving all other systems. As result every pilot in this system lost connection to the node and therefore to Tranquility. The system Z9PP is online and accessible again now. It is extremely unfortunate to make such a mistake and we apologize deeply for disrupting one of the truly epic battles in the history of EVE; especially since this battle already raged on for several hours and was still heating up for more! We are very sorry about this incident and will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.
Actually pretty cool you came out with such a sincere and honest explanatin. Thank you for that much. |

Ayures
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
39
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:12:00 -
[609] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Boom Boom Longtime wrote:LMAO @ you space jockeys crying - i've said for a while that undocking in new eden is an over-rated experience yet you kids still complain ?
Stay docked, Stay Safe. We would have told test that but actualyl it's Stay logged off. Stay safe.
Remember all those times when CFC dreads were ordered to not log back in?
And then all the TESTies flooded into the forums to demand that the dreads be destroyed and someone at CCP fired? Oh, wait... |

Schadenfraud
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:13:00 -
[610] - Quote
Danny Calamity wrote:Andski wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:The command to remap everything other than Z9PP-H from the current server node was mis-entered. Instead of moving everything else than Z9PP-H, the command was given to move everything else than Q9PP-H. Therefore Z9PP-H (and everything else on the current node) was remapped with the fatal consequences we see now. It's unsurprising that your code doesn't check whether the excepted system actually exists on the node. A good coder always adds a sanity check regardless of how competent they expect the user to be. You do realize how old the EVE codebase is, right? There's no guarantees of ease of integration even if this particular command was new. It's pretty :pohr: either way, but every programmer knows that this is just daily life. Decade-old code is never a good thing.
Because people only started sanity checking inputs in the last 10 years. |
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WhiteHalo117
SHUN THE NON BELIEVER Li3 Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:13:00 -
[611] - Quote
PL/NC/N3/TEST <---- In order of relevance, were unable to escalate because they were not winning the subcap fight. If you don't realize the importance of subcaps your ********. Test et. al. subcaps couldn't clear dics and hics fast enough. |

not Mogs
TribalWar Inc
4
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:13:00 -
[612] - Quote
I would like to point out that Michael Bolton of Test fame was recently recruited by CCP. Could he be manipulating the servers via having friends in the right places? It would benefit CCP to take a serious look at their internal affairs and recruitment from the eve community. They will always have a bias in the matter. Not to mention that CCP screegs aka DARIUS Johnson being fired over some trivial matter? CCP are on a fuckgoons roll right now. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3771
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:13:00 -
[613] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:Ayures wrote: ****, you're right. I wouldn't want to interfere with the narrative.
Ayures, seriously, why is this level of incompetence acceptable? When it happened to CFC dreads, why was it acceptable then? Modern IT systems should be creating archival images at regular intervals - intervals that actually shorten as usage increases due to the need to back-up a higher volume of data flow and state changes. Why is losing customer data acceptable, rather than a 5-10 minute (hell, 10% tidi, make it a half hour, an hour!) rollback? You said (more than once) 'sure, we'll trade you for the dreads', and I'm saying that I think that'd be preferable to continued substandard service. I notice you don't seem to be respond to that - from me, or anyone else who's saying it. Why not? Do you prefer substandard service? TEST takes all the help they can get.
First PL and NC then er I think N3? then I don't know who, BoB? 401k i think they're called now.
BoB, eh. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Ayures
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
39
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:13:00 -
[614] - Quote
Voyan Ageri wrote:Alexander Omega wrote:Hey, CCP, why don't you give the CFC one free node crash at the time of our choosing? We get one 'get out of whelp free card' to match the one your engineer just handed test. Actually you've got it wrong - CCP still owes us 3 more. 
Truth. |

Hessian Arcturus
S.W.O.R.D. Navy
211
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:13:00 -
[615] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Alexander Omega wrote:Hey, CCP, why don't you give the CFC one free node crash at the time of our choosing? We get one 'get out of whelp free card' to match the one your engineer just handed test. Only if it accidentally triggers and remaps VFK instead. Or Jita
I vote Jita... It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |

Arrendis
Hephaestus LLC Fatal Ascension
22
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:14:00 -
[616] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote: Only a small fraction of the playerbase.
Well, duh, we make use of POS mechanics. Everyone knows POS mechanics affect only a small fraction of the playerbase, remember? |

Yokomaki
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
9
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:14:00 -
[617] - Quote
Are these GOON TEARS??? They taste delicious! |

Ayures
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
39
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:14:00 -
[618] - Quote
not Mogs wrote:I would like to point out that Michael Bolton of Test fame was recently recruited by CCP. Could he be manipulating the servers via having friends in the right places? It would benefit CCP to take a serious look at their internal affairs and recruitment from the eve community. They will always have a bias in the matter. Not to mention that CCP screegs aka DARIUS Johnson being fired over some trivial matter? CCP are on a fuckgoons roll right now.
Totally explains why CCP did the same thing and saved goon caps about 4 times in recent memory. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3771
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:15:00 -
[619] - Quote
not Mogs wrote:I would like to point out that Michael Bolton of Test fame was recently recruited by CCP. Could he be manipulating the servers via having friends in the right places? It would benefit CCP to take a serious look at their internal affairs and recruitment from the eve community. They will always have a bias in the matter. Not to mention that CCP screegs aka DARIUS Johnson being fired over some trivial matter? CCP are on a fuckgoons roll right now. Seriously, fuckgoons erryday.
It's like shooting blues and telling Vile Rat, but instead you go fuckgoons and tell EVEO General Discussion. Or Reddit I guess. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

WhiteHalo117
SHUN THE NON BELIEVER Li3 Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:15:00 -
[620] - Quote
Ayures wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Boom Boom Longtime wrote:LMAO @ you space jockeys crying - i've said for a while that undocking in new eden is an over-rated experience yet you kids still complain ?
Stay docked, Stay Safe. We would have told test that but actualyl it's Stay logged off. Stay safe. Remember all those times when CFC dreads were ordered to not log back in? And then all the TESTies flooded into the forums to demand that the dreads be destroyed and someone at CCP fired? Oh, wait... Downtime happens every day the same time in this game the fact your now referring to it as CCP intervention is astounding. Bahahahahaha! |
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Danny Calamity
TunnelSnakes Test Alliance Please Ignore
16
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:15:00 -
[621] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:Ayures wrote: ****, you're right. I wouldn't want to interfere with the narrative.
Ayures, seriously, why is this level of incompetence acceptable? When it happened to CFC dreads, why was it acceptable then? Modern IT systems should be creating archival images at regular intervals - intervals that actually shorten as usage increases due to the need to back-up a higher volume of data flow and state changes. Why is losing customer data acceptable, rather than a 5-10 minute (hell, 10% tidi, make it a half hour, an hour!) rollback? You said (more than once) 'sure, we'll trade you for the dreads', and I'm saying that I think that'd be preferable to continued substandard service. I notice you don't seem to be respond to that - from me, or anyone else who's saying it. Why not? Do you prefer substandard service?
Service seems fine to me. Carriers are safe m8. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3771
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:16:00 -
[622] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote: Only a small fraction of the playerbase.
Well, duh, we make use of POS mechanics. Everyone knows POS mechanics affect only a small fraction of the playerbase, remember? Yep. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1568
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:16:00 -
[623] - Quote
Chase Hakoke wrote:Wibla wrote:Chase Hakoke wrote:lol you guys think you would have actually killed 112 TEST carriers before this escalated? LOL. Test would have dropped supers... then the CFC... then all TEST friends and then all the cfc supers would die. You guys should be thanking CCP. You're delusional and/or trolling. We had you outnumbered close to 2:1 in battleships, your carriers were popping left and right, and your good friends (who left you to die earlier in the fight, btw) refused to escalate because we had 60+ dictors and 20+ hictors on the field. AND YET THE CFC DIDN'T DROP A SINGLE CAPITAL. And they know why they didn't either. 300 megas aint gonna do much against a super blob.
PL/N3 combined have 250 active supers (active defined by been on a killmail in the last 4 months) TEST have 12
tell us more about your super blob |

Zeph1rus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:18:00 -
[624] - Quote
Space Juden wrote:Goons confirmed for worst sportmanship in Esports
Well we are typically known for our honour and integrity. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3775
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:19:00 -
[625] - Quote
Kijo Rikki wrote:WhiteHalo117 wrote:Ayures wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Boom Boom Longtime wrote:LMAO @ you space jockeys crying - i've said for a while that undocking in new eden is an over-rated experience yet you kids still complain ?
Stay docked, Stay Safe. We would have told test that but actualyl it's Stay logged off. Stay safe. Remember all those times when CFC dreads were ordered to not log back in? And then all the TESTies flooded into the forums to demand that the dreads be destroyed and someone at CCP fired? Oh, wait... Downtime happens every day the same time in this game the fact your now referring to it as CCP intervention is astounding. Bahahahahaha! woah woah woah, downtime happens in US Primetime? Yep. With no warning. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Ayures
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
42
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:19:00 -
[626] - Quote
Le Creed wrote:Ayures wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Boom Boom Longtime wrote:LMAO @ you space jockeys crying - i've said for a while that undocking in new eden is an over-rated experience yet you kids still complain ?
Stay docked, Stay Safe. We would have told test that but actualyl it's Stay logged off. Stay safe. Remember all those times when CFC dreads were ordered to not log back in? And then all the TESTies flooded into the forums to demand that the dreads be destroyed and someone at CCP fired? Oh, wait... You are not a very bright person I take it...
This was before you guys decided to try on big girl panties and decided that meant becoming goon pets. It's ok if you don't know what I'm talking about. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3775
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:19:00 -
[627] - Quote
Zeph1rus wrote:Space Juden wrote:Goons confirmed for worst sportmanship in Esports Well we are typically known for our honour and integrity. Yep, all the ehonor, There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3775
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:20:00 -
[628] - Quote
Le Creed wrote:Ayures wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Boom Boom Longtime wrote:LMAO @ you space jockeys crying - i've said for a while that undocking in new eden is an over-rated experience yet you kids still complain ?
Stay docked, Stay Safe. We would have told test that but actualyl it's Stay logged off. Stay safe. Remember all those times when CFC dreads were ordered to not log back in? And then all the TESTies flooded into the forums to demand that the dreads be destroyed and someone at CCP fired? Oh, wait... You are not a very bright person I take it... Can you tell me what you do with morons?
Whip them back and forth until they learn? :) There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Horath Blackguts
THORN Syndicate Black Legion.
42
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:20:00 -
[629] - Quote
So much whining and tears, and undeserved smug, all on insufficient information. Why not ask CCP to submit this matter to their internal affairs department for investigation, then release the report of what actually happened, or if NDAed, then submit the report to CSM for review and they can reassure the player base |

WhiteHalo117
SHUN THE NON BELIEVER Li3 Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:22:00 -
[630] - Quote
Guys CCP 100% for sure did this on purpose they turned this fight into forum pvp! |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3775
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:22:00 -
[631] - Quote
Horath Blackguts wrote:So much whining and tears, and undeserved smug, all on insufficient information. Why not ask CCP to submit this matter to their internal affairs department for investigation, then release the report of what actually happened, or if NDAed, then submit the report to CSM for review and they can reassure the player base Ah yes.... the details are nda, but it was all perfectly normal, please move on. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Chandra Rancoeur
Eternal Darkness. Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:22:00 -
[632] - Quote
Goddamnit CCP, we make content, you **** it up. **** you guys |

Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
422
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:22:00 -
[633] - Quote
Ayures wrote:Le Creed wrote:Ayures wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Boom Boom Longtime wrote:LMAO @ you space jockeys crying - i've said for a while that undocking in new eden is an over-rated experience yet you kids still complain ?
Stay docked, Stay Safe. We would have told test that but actualyl it's Stay logged off. Stay safe. Remember all those times when CFC dreads were ordered to not log back in? And then all the TESTies flooded into the forums to demand that the dreads be destroyed and someone at CCP fired? Oh, wait... You are not a very bright person I take it... This was before you guys decided to try on big girl panties and decided that meant becoming goon pets. It's ok if you don't know what I'm talking about. keep calm men and lets try keep things civil. Fools and their Interstellar Kredits are Soon Parted. |

Lyhnley
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:22:00 -
[634] - Quote
its like when alderaan was exploded up by the deadstar "I felt a great disturbance in the EvE forums, as if millions of nerd voices suddenly cried out in fury, over going linkdead during a fight goons may actually have won. I fear something terrible\awesome\funny has happened."
but yeah that ccp guy really dropped the ball sucks to be him |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3775
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:22:00 -
[635] - Quote
WhiteHalo117 wrote:Guys CCP 100% for sure did this on purpose they turned this fight into forum pvp! RED PEN OP CTA LEVELFIVE?
Haha. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3775
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:23:00 -
[636] - Quote
Boom Boom Longtime wrote:Ayures wrote:Le Creed wrote: You are not a very bright person I take it...
This was before you guys decided to try on big girl panties and decided that meant becoming goon pets. It's ok if you don't know what I'm talking about. keep calm men and lets try keep things civil. It's better to be a goon "pet" than say a soco "ally", hbc "member". There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3775
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:24:00 -
[637] - Quote
Chandra Rancoeur wrote:Goddamnit CCP, we make content, you **** it up. **** you guys Not all content is equal.
It was important to preserve test's content generating apparatus.
"Slowcats" There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Gerald Fnord
Unholy Knights of Cthulhu Test Alliance Please Ignore
2
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:24:00 -
[638] - Quote
Anyone else laughing hysterically over goons whining about something not being fair?
~CFC 2013~ |

Delta Jax
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
47
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:25:00 -
[639] - Quote
I'm just going to say to CCP,
Don't fire the engineer, the is an opportunity to improve your processes. If it wasn't that guy, it would just be someone else down the road. Twitter : -á@DeltaJax
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3786
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:26:00 -
[640] - Quote
Gerald Fnord wrote:Anyone else laughing hysterically over goons whining about something not being fair?
~CFC 2013~ There are no goons
[DAWW]2014 There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |
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Jasmine Assasin
State War Academy Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:26:00 -
[641] - Quote
Zeph1rus wrote:What are you doing to fix this issue. This fight had massive consequences, and you cannot hand-wave and go "oops".
See, they run and oversee the game so actually they can and there ain't a damn thing you can do about it. I mean feel free to act like a whiny brat on forums all you want but in the end that just makes you a bunch of butt hurt internet nerds. |

Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
457
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:27:00 -
[642] - Quote
Thisnameblows wrote:How is it possible that in the year 2013 I'm able to do live migrations of virtual machines from one piece of physical hardware to another without any kind of interruptions or downtime, but CCP can't move a single system in a spaceship game without shutting down the node and losing information from that system like aggression timers that really should have been stored persistently?
What is so ******* different about EVE's database and storage structures that you can't transfer data from one node to another live, and move players without disconnecting them? Add a popup box saying it will be degraded for a few minutes, add 100% tidi and pause the node if you have to. Literally any option would be better than the way it works now.
Wow. You must be, like, God, to know so much about migrating and stuff. |

Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
422
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:28:00 -
[643] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Boom Boom Longtime wrote:Ayures wrote:Le Creed wrote: You are not a very bright person I take it...
This was before you guys decided to try on big girl panties and decided that meant becoming goon pets. It's ok if you don't know what I'm talking about. keep calm men and lets try keep things civil. It's better to be a goon "pet" than say a soco "ally", hbc "member". You seem discombobulated snowflake ?
What part of undocking is overated dont you comprehend princess ?  Fools and their Interstellar Kredits are Soon Parted. |

Setaceous
Nexus Prima
156
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:28:00 -
[644] - Quote
Delta Jax wrote:I'm just going to say to CCP,
Don't fire the engineer, the is an opportunity to improve your processes. If it wasn't that guy, it would just be someone else down the road. Would entirely depend on the Icelandic process for dismissing an employee anyway. In some countries it's not as easy as You screwed up = you're fired. |

MyBoy friday
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:28:00 -
[645] - Quote
Gerald Fnord wrote:Anyone else laughing hysterically over goons whining about something not being fair?
~CFC 2013~
I'm not sure it's fair to blame Goons for raging on the forums. When the server that they would be playing games on is running like a '74 Ford Pinto, the speed and low latency of the forum service may be far more welcome. |

Rasa Parvi
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:29:00 -
[646] - Quote
Gerald Fnord wrote:Anyone else laughing hysterically over goons whining about something not being fair?
~CFC 2013~
You wasn't laughing when PL left you to die and you started bleeding carriers upto 26 dead Test Carriers now
How's your capital ship replacement funds looking atm LOLOLOLOL
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Thoric Frosthammer
Winged Victory Corporation Get Off My Lawn
0
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:29:00 -
[647] - Quote
If I screwed something up this bad at work I'd be fired.
Someone needs to be fired, or at least lose some pay over this.
This wasn't about hardware limitations, we'd had up to 2200 in system and were still fighting just fine.
This was human error. So fix it by removing the human in question.
Seriously, is there just no accountability over there?
You don't get to just derp things when there are major events going on and walk away going "so sorry". It doesn't make people want to play your game.
And dumb stuff like this happens all the time. Accountability. And you have to tell us what you did to fix it. |

Le Creed
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
5
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:30:00 -
[648] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Le Creed wrote:Ayures wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Boom Boom Longtime wrote:LMAO @ you space jockeys crying - i've said for a while that undocking in new eden is an over-rated experience yet you kids still complain ?
Stay docked, Stay Safe. We would have told test that but actualyl it's Stay logged off. Stay safe. Remember all those times when CFC dreads were ordered to not log back in? And then all the TESTies flooded into the forums to demand that the dreads be destroyed and someone at CCP fired? Oh, wait... You are not a very bright person I take it... Can you tell me what you do with morons? Whip them back and forth until they learn? :)
You can't help morons. It's why we whip them back AND forth, continually. |

Baali Tekitsu
Herrscher der Zeit Test Alliance Please Ignore
9
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:30:00 -
[649] - Quote
Rasa Parvi wrote:Gerald Fnord wrote:Anyone else laughing hysterically over goons whining about something not being fair?
~CFC 2013~ You wasn't laughing when PL left you to die and you started bleeding carriers upto 26 dead Test Carriers now How's your capital ship replacement funds looking atm LOLOLOLOL
Were broke, dead, we wont undock anything but cheap T1 hulls EVER again. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3786
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:30:00 -
[650] - Quote
Rasa Parvi wrote:Gerald Fnord wrote:Anyone else laughing hysterically over goons whining about something not being fair?
~CFC 2013~ You wasn't laughing when PL left you to die and you started bleeding carriers upto 26 dead Test Carriers now How's your capital ship replacement funds looking atm LOLOLOLOL Much better than it would have been if those carriers hadn't been removed from space. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |
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Dabigorangebarge
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:30:00 -
[651] - Quote
Thoric Frosthammer wrote:If I screwed something up this bad at work I'd be fired.
Someone needs to be fired, or at least lose some pay over this.
This wasn't about hardware limitations, we'd had up to 2200 in system and were still fighting just fine.
This was human error. So fix it by removing the human in question.
Seriously, is there just no accountability over there?
You don't get to just derp things when there are major events going on and walk away going "so sorry". It doesn't make people want to play your game.
And dumb stuff like this happens all the time. Accountability. And you have to tell us what you did to fix it.
This. A thousand times this. Fire the guy who screwed up, then fix the problem so no one else can screw it up the same way.
Then again, this is CCP, so that just means you'll find a shiny new way to screw it up. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3786
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:31:00 -
[652] - Quote
Le Creed wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote: Can you tell me what you do with morons?
Whip them back and forth until they learn? :)
You can't help morons. It's why we whip them back AND forth, continually. I see. Should have thought of it that way. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
570
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:31:00 -
[653] - Quote
Schadenfraud wrote:
Why does this system require typed in system names instead of a physical drop box for what systems are on whichever node you are balancing out?
Because no-one has been told, realised or imagined that coding such a tool for a very limited amount of people to be used in a very rare set of circumstances would be a useful investment of developer time?
CCP Eterne: Silly player, ALL devs are evil. CCP Fozzie: When Veritas describes a programming challenge as "very hard" I tend to believe him.
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Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1348
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:31:00 -
[654] - Quote
Setaceous wrote:Would entirely depend on the Icelandic process for dismissing an employee anyway. In some countries it's not as easy as You screwed up = you're fired.
I don't think he means "fire someone" as much as he means "make the processes for live improving a node more idiot proof". "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3786
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:31:00 -
[655] - Quote
Dabigorangebarge wrote:Thoric Frosthammer wrote:If I screwed something up this bad at work I'd be fired.
Someone needs to be fired, or at least lose some pay over this.
This wasn't about hardware limitations, we'd had up to 2200 in system and were still fighting just fine.
This was human error. So fix it by removing the human in question.
Seriously, is there just no accountability over there?
You don't get to just derp things when there are major events going on and walk away going "so sorry". It doesn't make people want to play your game.
And dumb stuff like this happens all the time. Accountability. And you have to tell us what you did to fix it. This. A thousand times this. Fire the guy who screwed up, then fix the problem so no one else can screw it up the same way. Then again, this is CCP, so that just means you'll find a shiny new way to screw it up. The war in fountain will continue to rage, there's enough time to find TONS of ways to screw up. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Gerald Fnord
Unholy Knights of Cthulhu Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:31:00 -
[656] - Quote
MyBoy friday wrote:Gerald Fnord wrote:Anyone else laughing hysterically over goons whining about something not being fair?
~CFC 2013~ I'm not sure it's fair to blame Goons for raging on the forums. When the server that they would be playing games on is running like a '74 Ford Pinto, the speed and low latency of the forum service may be far more welcome.
The process they have in place is several orders of magnitude better than what used to happen when even 600 people were in one system. We had almost 4 times that number in Z9PP and the node crashed because someone screwed up at CCP. How about a little praise to CCP for this? |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3786
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:32:00 -
[657] - Quote
Snow Axe wrote:Setaceous wrote:Would entirely depend on the Icelandic process for dismissing an employee anyway. In some countries it's not as easy as You screwed up = you're fired. I don't think he means "fire someone" as much as he means "make the processes for live improving a node more idiot proof". Is either really that likely?
Meet the new code, broken in different ways from the old one.
The new launcher has vastly improved my gaming experience.
So did that system remap. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Giovanni Ursula
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:32:00 -
[658] - Quote
I don't know what everyone's complaining about. I was able to finish my Level 3 Distribution mission in Halaima. I even got the 60,000 ISK bonus. |

Anela Cistine
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
181
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:32:00 -
[659] - Quote
I for one would like to thank CCP for looking out for our wellbeing. Players had been sitting at their computers all tensed up for 5 hours or more. That's just not healthy. You can get blood clots in your legs and stroke out. CCP cares enough about their customers to force us all to take a much needed break.
Thanks CCP. |

Roderick Grey
Broski North Black Legion.
419
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:32:00 -
[660] - Quote
somebody lock this thread please and tell the CFC line-members to stop posting forever. GÇ£We could learn a lot from crayons; some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, while others bright, some have weird names, but they all have learned to live together in the same box.GÇ¥- Special needs division of Fcon. |
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Le Creed
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
5
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:33:00 -
[661] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Boom Boom Longtime wrote:Ayures wrote:Le Creed wrote: You are not a very bright person I take it...
This was before you guys decided to try on big girl panties and decided that meant becoming goon pets. It's ok if you don't know what I'm talking about. keep calm men and lets try keep things civil. It's better to be a goon "pet" than say a soco "ally", hbc "member".
Even if we are pets, which we aren't because we are not obligated to nor do we owe anything to the CFC, I would not mind at all. You guys have been nothing but bro's to us since we have allied.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3786
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:33:00 -
[662] - Quote
Anela Cistine wrote:I for one would like to thank CCP for looking out for our wellbeing. Players had been sitting at their computers all tensed up for 5 hours or more. That's just not healthy. You can get blood clots in your legs and stroke out. CCP cares enough about their customers to force us all to take a much needed break.
Thanks CCP. Indeed. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Gerald Fnord
Unholy Knights of Cthulhu Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:34:00 -
[663] - Quote
Don't the SA forums cultivate good posting behaviors? What in the world is up with you goon duders here. Your posting is awful. |

Jase Fairimor
Empty Wallets Inc. SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:34:00 -
[664] - Quote
I don't think the guy needs to lose his job and make his whole family suffer, but I do think they should change his name to CCP NodeDropper and make him come to B-D in an officer fit Nightmare every day for a week.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3787
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:34:00 -
[665] - Quote
Le Creed wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Boom Boom Longtime wrote:Ayures wrote:Le Creed wrote: You are not a very bright person I take it...
This was before you guys decided to try on big girl panties and decided that meant becoming goon pets. It's ok if you don't know what I'm talking about. keep calm men and lets try keep things civil. It's better to be a goon "pet" than say a soco "ally", hbc "member". Even if we are pets, which we aren't because we are not obligated to nor do we owe anything to the CFC, I would not mind at all. You guys have been nothing but bro's to us since we have allied. You don't quite get what I was getting at. When test were our friends, they were our pets too.
When we were blue with pl they were also our pets. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Johan March
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:34:00 -
[666] - Quote
Anela Cistine wrote:I for one would like to thank CCP for looking out for our wellbeing. Players had been sitting at their computers all tensed up for 5 hours or more. That's just not healthy. You can get blood clots in your legs and stroke out. CCP cares enough about their customers to force us all to take a much needed break.
Thanks CCP.
It's actually a new feature. Play for more than 3 hours and you get a black screen with red letters saying, "Go to the gym, nerd!" |

Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
457
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:35:00 -
[667] - Quote
not Mogs wrote:I would like to point out that Michael Bolton of Test fame was recently recruited by CCP. Could he be manipulating the servers via having friends in the right places? It would benefit CCP to take a serious look at their internal affairs and recruitment from the eve community. They will always have a bias in the matter. Not to mention that CCP screegs aka DARIUS Johnson being fired over some trivial matter? CCP are on a fuckgoons roll right now.
Confirming that the best way to deal with a total disaster in a GAME is to accuse someone real of being responsible by name on a public forum, without any proof whatsoever. You really have your priorities straight. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3787
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:35:00 -
[668] - Quote
Jase Fairimor wrote:I don't think the guy needs to lose his job and make his whole family suffer, but I do think they should change his name to CCP NodeDropper and make him come to B-D in an officer fit Nightmare every day for a week.
So he can help TEST keep their killboards green? There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1349
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:35:00 -
[669] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Is either really that likely?.
I'll take any attempt to improve the situation over sitting on their hands and just hoping nobody screws up again. Stories of these kinds of battles are a part of selling Eve to people, and that's not going to happen when the story ends with "and then some dev accidentally took the server offline and everyone crashed". "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3787
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:36:00 -
[670] - Quote
Giovanni Ursula wrote:I don't know what everyone's complaining about. I was able to finish my Level 3 Distribution mission in Halaima. I even got the 60,000 ISK bonus. Sweet, 60,000 ISK There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |
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Joshua Lonestar
Mayer Industries
26
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:36:00 -
[671] - Quote
I'm sure the next server outage will be done at an opportune time to help CFC with some timers.
The pendulum swings to the left, the pendulum swings to the right.
On a more serious note, why the hell is node balancing even done manually? I mean seriously, you guys dont have a few propellerheads you can lock away for a few days to write some automatic balancing monitors which do this stuff on the fly?? |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3787
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:36:00 -
[672] - Quote
Snow Axe wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Is either really that likely?. I'll take any attempt to improve the situation over sitting on their hands and just hoping nobody screws up again. Stories of these kinds of battles are a part of selling Eve to people, and that's not going to happen when the story ends with "and then some dev accidentally took the server offline and everyone crashed". #1 is fairly likely. I give it, hmm 3:1 odds in favor of it happening. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Toshiro Ozuwara
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
234
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:37:00 -
[673] - Quote
Rasa Parvi wrote:How's your capital ship replacement funds looking atm LOLOLOLOL We're still broke, but we have caps to field. :)
Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD. |

Gerald Fnord
Unholy Knights of Cthulhu Test Alliance Please Ignore
6
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:37:00 -
[674] - Quote
The Mittani GÇÅ@TheMittani 1h Node remapping by CCP saved entire trapped TEST capfleet in the midst of a battle larger than Asakai. Not amused. #tweetfleet #eveonline
^ This guy is gonna have a hard time adjusting to losing as frequently as he is going to in this engagement. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3787
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:37:00 -
[675] - Quote
Joshua Lonestar wrote:I'm sure the next server outage will be done at an opportune time to help CFC with some timers.
The pendulum swings to the left, the pendulum swings to the right. Yep, it'll help us save our VFK station timer. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Rasa Parvi
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:37:00 -
[676] - Quote
At one point PL bailed on test so they starting bleeding carriers
Then they jumped back in with N3 and Tribe and started bleeding rokhs
Then someone batt phoned CCP and they pressed the ultimate I win button :-) |

Yornic
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
17
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:38:00 -
[677] - Quote
CCP, please TEST your engineers that they know the difference between a Z and Q. We may need them to push the Z instead of the Q at some other point. |

Saeri Averes-Vith
Disgruntled Carebear
6
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:38:00 -
[678] - Quote
Goon tears, best tears.  |

Roidhound
State Protectorate Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:38:00 -
[679] - Quote
OMG you guys, chill out!!
Its just a game ffs.
Grow up and deal with it.
LOL
Seriouslly
LOL
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Giovanni Ursula
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:38:00 -
[680] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Giovanni Ursula wrote:I don't know what everyone's complaining about. I was able to finish my Level 3 Distribution mission in Halaima. I even got the 60,000 ISK bonus. Sweet, 60,000 ISK
I know, right? Soon I'll be able to afford buy a Drake and run some security missions.
Do you guys use Drakes? |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3787
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:39:00 -
[681] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Jase Fairimor wrote:I don't think the guy needs to lose his job and make his whole family suffer, but I do think they should change his name to CCP NodeDropper and make him come to B-D in an officer fit Nightmare every day for a week.
So he can help TEST keep their killboards green? No, wait I got it.
Not only keep killboards green, but some TEST people who happen to know about this "officer spawn" in advance will get some officer mods to bring to Jita to sell.
REIMBUSEIBLE: NO, STOP BEING POOR There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Mor Erata
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
7
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:39:00 -
[682] - Quote
Goons are cute when they are angry |

Gerald Fnord
Unholy Knights of Cthulhu Test Alliance Please Ignore
6
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:39:00 -
[683] - Quote
Goon tears fuel our ships. |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
292
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:39:00 -
[684] - Quote
Chase Hakoke wrote:Wibla wrote:Chase Hakoke wrote:lol you guys think you would have actually killed 112 TEST carriers before this escalated? LOL. Test would have dropped supers... then the CFC... then all TEST friends and then all the cfc supers would die. You guys should be thanking CCP. You're delusional and/or trolling. We had you outnumbered close to 2:1 in battleships, your carriers were popping left and right, and your good friends (who left you to die earlier in the fight, btw) refused to escalate because we had 60+ dictors and 20+ hictors on the field. AND YET THE CFC DIDN'T DROP A SINGLE CAPITAL. And they know why they didn't either. 300 megas aint gonna do much against a super blob.
Good thing you has no such super blob in system. |
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CCP Falcon
3361

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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:40:00 -
[685] - Quote
This thread is closed.
Please read here.
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
3965
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:42:00 -
[686] - Quote
If CFC had the same amount of participation in the actual game as they do this thread; they would have won the Fountain war by now.  . |

Sabrina Scatterbrain
United Souls Research And Development
5
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:42:00 -
[687] - Quote
CCP TEST: Before I press ENTER please confirm I have everything correct.
CCP PL: Looks good.
CCP NULLI: I don't see any problems here.
CCP TRIBE: Let me see, yes, that will do.
CCP PIZZA: I wanna see, can I see?
CCP 401K: Push the friggin button already!
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1Robert McNamara1
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:53:00 -
[688] - Quote
Ok, I'm no hero so not reading 30 pages of well earned tears and hate. I get it, mistakes were made. It sucks but I want to hear about what will happen to avoid it in the future.
CCP stated 'this will never happen again.' CCP also said 'we don't stop the best content our game can deliver, giant fights that matter.' I know CCP Phantom is the mouthpiece I can read, I'm just acknowledging that the problem and onus is larger than him.
Please, detail for us exactly what steps you will take to avoid this from happening again in the future. I understand you'll probably need a meeting or two to talk about policy changes or even code changes, but we need to know. This could have just as easily gone our way for some bull **** in Tenal or 4-EP12. Neither side wants this to happen again.
Here are my humble suggestions:
1. The guy who did this, actually entered the command, gets a 2 day paid vacation. I know his job is full of stress and fuckery and this has got to keep him up at night for the next several days. I know I couldn't sleep after this.
2. Z9PP-H, E-IO0O, and 4-EP12 are constantly getting hit with timers and big giant alliance crushing fights are going to happen there for the foreseeable future. Place all 3 of these systems on their own reinforced nodes. If you don't have that many spare nodes, have the reinforcement follow the iHUB and Station timers. You have 20,000 players watching those timers and responding to them, please give them some attention to guide your server balance decisions.
3. Make it right to the CFC. Killing 100 carriers is too far, as much as we'd like that it wouldn't feel right unless it was our guns and bubbles that did the slaying. It would also set a terrible precedent in the game. Who knows when either side would escalate to supers etc. Instead I ask that you set that iHub back to the reinforced state it was at. I know Test repaired it, good on them, but CFC spent a ton of man-hours creating the condition for that fight, and the reward for their preparation was going to be a ton of dead enemies. With the reward taken from us, at least re-set the conditions for the fight. I think these are extraordinary circumstances and would require a unique fix that would not apply to other server welps from CCP sys-admins.
I'm no diplomat, the opinions expressed above are my own. |
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