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Capsicum
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:14:00 -
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As you know, there are problems currently; We're not sure why.
Please try and keep your comments in this thread for the time being, Thanks!
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slothe
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:14:00 -
[2]
any idea for how long? i want to go to bed but i got a bubble up :/
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Chinsor
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:15:00 -
[3]
Originally by: Kane LeBaiton 1st? 
no
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Hellunic
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:15:00 -
[4]
People may have noticed its the 13th today... anyway, just how long is it going to be before TQ comes back up?
This is an alt- main acct has been disabled 
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Kane LeBaiton
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:15:00 -
[5]
Edited by: Kane LeBaiton on 13/12/2005 22:14:56 Meh... And I was just doing a mission ;)
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News
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:15:00 -
[6]
/me puts on a big pot of coffee for the mods :/
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RemDakar
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:15:00 -
[7]
aww I was hoping to make at least 10 more topics about this issue over the next few minutes.
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:15:00 -
[8]
I blame Grimpak 
Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Capsicum
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:16:00 -
[9]
Currently, I would love to know myself, but I can't even get IRC connected.
In the mean time I thank you all for your patience.
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Cmdr Sy
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:16:00 -
[10]
Well, first off, this only serves to further justify my decision to quit the 0.0 alliance grind for a time. I shudder to think what treatment my friends in -V- can expect from the petition system tomorrow. 
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Del Narveux
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:16:00 -
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5 bucks says its the new server optimization whatever they were going on about in the game news. This sort of stuff (random disconnects, node funkiness, etc) seemed to all sprout up about the time that stuff got played wtih. Might be a good idea to postpone RMR if they havent already, till they troubleshoot the system some more. _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base?
Originally by: Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:16:00 -
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Hmmm, not sure whether is it relevant. I am having some problems with the forum loading and coincidently, I can not connect to EvE. Web related stuffs are severely slowed down.
My guess: 1. CCP server pop? 2. International internet worm outbreak?
Any news? If it is (1), we really need those magical 64-bit servers with 64-bit softwares or maybe have a dual-DT daily.  ----------------
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maniago
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:16:00 -
[13]
Yes we know eve is having problems, everyday. Paying for three accounts, and this is the service I get. If I didn't enjoy this game like I have in the past; and if this continues you can kiss my three accounts goodbye.
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res0nance
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:16:00 -
[14]
Err... I really, really, really need to change skill... haven't had one training for some time now as I was expecting to be able to change it when I got up this morning D:
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Aora
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:17:00 -
[15]
/me sulks 
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:17:00 -
[16]
skill finishes in 5 mins..bedtime asap..back online after work tomorrow in 18 hours  ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's |

Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:17:00 -
[17]
Originally by: Tiuwaz I blame Grimpak 
OMG BLAME ME!
...someone PLEASE remind me NOT to go to AZN tomorrow -------------------
Celestial Horizon: we go zerg on you |

PKlavins
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:17:00 -
[18]
wat are the chances of it being up by midnight europe time? (i.e. 45mins)
place yer bets  -----------------------------------------------
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elohllird
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:18:00 -
[19]
I blame Teqno 
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M3G4 InformationOfficer
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:18:00 -
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RemDakar
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:18:00 -
[21]
they ran out of quarters.
they are heading to the bank now.
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SpaceJockey
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:18:00 -
[22]
rename the game to Eve Offline
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Wesley Harding
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:18:00 -
[23]
It's alright. I'll just let my sister play The Sims 2 while I wait.
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chingon
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:19:00 -
[24]
Originally by: dabster skill finishes in 5 mins..bedtime asap..back online after work tomorrow in 18 hours 
omg don't let this happen to me too This game is too addictive to let that happen
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Exodus Ronin
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:19:00 -
[25]
Edited by: Exodus Ronin on 13/12/2005 22:20:07 Man i was mining with 9k m3 of massive scordite in a can it better still b back there for my hauler to pick up!!!  Exo...
A Ronin...
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Nirnaeth
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:19:00 -
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If the server needed to crash... couldn't it happen 5 minutes earlier....
Just got robbed of a whole can from some coward ore thiefs... Would have been much happier to loose the ore due to a servercrash than to some 1 day old alts... 
/Nirnaeth
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:19:00 -
[27]
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Tiuwaz I blame Grimpak 
OMG BLAME ME!
...someone PLEASE remind me NOT to go to AZN tomorrow
DO NOT go to AZN tomorrow If the server is up that is 
Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Truestrike
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:19:00 -
[28]
I was doing an agent mission....don't really want to lose all that collateral 
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Yakti
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:19:00 -
[29]
Capsicum, just push the ON/OFF button again, it helps, really!
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Takahashi Clutch
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:20:00 -
[30]
must have space *****!
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Aora
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:21:00 -
[31]
I wasnt doing a thing. Lucky for me. I was going to start a complex though.
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Cognac
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:21:00 -
[32]
Originally by: maniago Yes we know eve is having problems, everyday. Paying for three accounts, and this is the service I get. If I didn't enjoy this game like I have in the past; and if this continues you can kiss my three accounts goodbye.
Can I have your stuff, then.....
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Gabriel Chalamarr
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:21:00 -
[33]
Mm .. Eve offline. Rediscovering legs and food -.-
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:21:00 -
[34]
props to Capsicum, impressive response time for the locks of all those threads 
Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Ciena Akoa
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:22:00 -
[35]
Hey! Be nice to them, they are doing their best to let us beam each other again. ;)
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JamesTalon
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:22:00 -
[36]
I was being given the message "Proxy not connected" and now its just "cannot connect"...Maybe its every single proxy being brought down randomly for no apparent reason what so ever? lol
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Lori Carlyle
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:22:00 -
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Server goes up and down more times then a london hooker.... and at this rate, are better value for my money. if you can't keep the service running for something we pay for, please shut it down or give us the time back. there are jokes in the world, and your "server issues" are not funny.
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Nathrezim
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:22:00 -
[38]
Well,its really great and all what we can see at the News thingy..19k barrier broken and stuff..Yea,really nice to see the population/active accounts ALMOST doubling in almost 1.5 years..it rocks..its more fun with more people around....Good work CCP :) The game rocks with all this new population..More targets  
But HEY ! No fun with all these crashes and lag and server/node/[name_it] problems... Looks like we cant get more than 100 ppl in same system without nodes going FUBAR'd and now looks like the last days/weeks that the servers can't support all these peeps... Imgaine what would happenn if the servers weren't upgraded or stuff..Ye...good work... RoX..
/em clap
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PKlavins
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:22:00 -
[39]
was in apoc agaisnt a mission with a 100k cruiser and a merc elite frig...was in 90% armor...wat are the chances of my survival? oh i had hardeners and one rep goin  -----------------------------------------------
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Redd Sectoray
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:22:00 -
[40]
A lot of folks are anxious to find out whether Thursday will be patch day or not. I'm guessing one of the devs snapped and thought: "Screw it, I'm patching it RIGHT NOW!!" 
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Sakira LeCastantas
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:22:00 -
[41]
The hamsters are loose! 
Jovian Invasion! 
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Useless alt
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:22:00 -
[42]

It seems that this is happening quite often lately. Every time it is something else but it does not bode well so close to the holiday season. I guess that things like this could be a good reason to prospone RMR for a few weeks... 
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Vetraband
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:22:00 -
[43]
bah humbug was right in the middle of my 1st spy stash mission :(
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MicluhoMakhlay
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:23:00 -
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It was my first "server Down" in the middle of battle. I'am became a pod-men or not? :)
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Mongo Smith
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:23:00 -
[45]
Perhaps this is the problem: Network Outage
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Sophia Moceau
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:23:00 -
[46]
I agree. Rename it EVE OFFLINE. This is getting old.
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Zolofine
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:23:00 -
[47]
You mean this only started happening recently?
I've only been back a couple days and when i left there were issues aswell. Happy to hear it isn't just the way things are then 
I think it's abotu time CCP got a carpenter to fix that hole in the ceiling, really.. water and computers hardly mix  |

Battou
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:24:00 -
[48]
Originally by: elohllird I blame Teqno 
LOL http://www.kaptainklak.com/battou_sig.png
Signature image oversized, Maximum size is 400x120px @ 24000 bytes - Imaran
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Bohoba
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:24:00 -
[49]
Can you update update the news please
Get Into the Game it makes it fun for all |

Dwight Hammerhead
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:24:00 -
[50]
Well there goes another vast batch of loot cans. I just get kinda upset that every time i have some spare time to play (and I dont have a lot of that recently) the server crashes in a spectacular way. And hell if I'm the only one. Can u kind folks at CCP pls go out there and get those new Blade servers of doom (TM) or whathever technical miracle u have up your sleeve.. This whole thing is going straight to hell with 20k ppl online expected in the comming days. Yes, i know u are aware of that. But I'm also aware of the funky screen that is in front of me saying "connection lost again". And yes, I'm pretty ****ed of, as are a lot of other folks round here. Take care.
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ishiii
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:24:00 -
[51]
******* AMAZING!!!!!!
every ******* time i begin a skill that takes under 30mins, the server breaks down... this just sucks so ******* much!!
eve-offline would be the currect name;) :P
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hoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward.
Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both.
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Anaris
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: SpaceJockey rename the game to Eve Offline
Thats a good idea for new EVE merchandise...perhaps hire more staff...or a magic 8-ball...
"Will the server be back up tonight?" Anaris shakes 8-ball reply:'Not Likely'
hey guys [devs & techys]...no worries...it gives me time to go and walk and enjoy the smaller things in life.... ======= Too stig for a real sig... |

Burga Galti
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:25:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
1. CCP server pop?
Gah, will you never learn! Always use a scanner, if you pop a server there is a chance it will respawn as an iMac after DT. **************** Pain is a way of knowing yourself; Death is the ultimate in self-discovery.
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Commander Lock
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:25:00 -
[54]
Skynet has become self aware!
*runs for the hills*
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Edison Frisk
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:25:00 -
[55]
Originally by: SpaceJockey rename the game to Eve Offline
  
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Mongo Smith
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:25:00 -
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If it helps:
Tracing route to 157.157.139.10 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms SpeedTouch.lan [10.0.0.138] 2 21 ms 18 ms 85 ms 217.47.251.122 3 15 ms 13 ms 14 ms 217.47.251.161 4 24 ms 22 ms 22 ms 217.41.173.13 5 11 ms 11 ms 12 ms 217.41.173.142 6 11 ms 13 ms 11 ms 212.140.206.46 7 12 ms 10 ms 11 ms 217.47.158.82 8 14 ms 16 ms 12 ms core1-pos1-3.manchester.ukcore.bt.net [194.72.2. 33] 9 13 ms 13 ms 12 ms core1-pos3-1.bletchley.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.204.1 10] 10 15 ms 14 ms 17 ms core1-pos5-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [195.99.120.20 9] 11 16 ms 17 ms 15 ms transit1-pos5-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [194.72.17. 122] 12 18 ms 16 ms 15 ms t2c1-p3-0.uk-eal.eu.bt.net [166.49.168.5] 13 14 ms 15 ms 16 ms t2c2-p8-0.uk-lon1.eu.bt.net [166.49.208.110] 14 19 ms 17 ms 16 ms t2a5-ge2-0.uk-lon1.eu.bt.net [166.49.135.115] 15 24 ms 18 ms 16 ms 166-49-214-130.eu.bt.net [166.49.214.130] 16 15 ms 16 ms 16 ms linx-gw13.LON.GB.net.DTAG.DE [62.154.5.38] 17 22 ms 23 ms 25 ms 62.153.203.190 18 18 ms 17 ms 17 ms 157.157.62.10 19 * * * Request timed out.
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:25:00 -
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damn wtf war just was started and **** all get dc ! damn i wana my moneys back all 14.95 $
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Battou
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:26:00 -
[58]
Originally by: SpaceJockey rename the game to Eve Offline
LOL http://www.kaptainklak.com/battou_sig.png
Signature image oversized, Maximum size is 400x120px @ 24000 bytes - Imaran
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Tanya Kovacs
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:26:00 -
[59]
seems there are several problems these days. Loads of crashes yesterday evening, this fatal crash right now, ... bit sucky with realtime-learning and "place short skills in the evening during regular playtime" Bet there will be quiet times again soon, but atm it sucks.
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ThunderGodThor
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:26:00 -
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I think the Hamsters went on strike. They found out they getting replaced by gerbils. 
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:26:00 -
[61]
Originally by: SpaceJockey rename the game to Eve Offline
rgr
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Todemir
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:27:00 -
[62]
omg... Staying up to change skills.. "6 minutes remaining" on a skill.. *CRASH*
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Archua
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:28:00 -
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I was with a bunch of people mining and then poof it went away.
I hope they we get back together when the server comes back up O_o, we were making a buttload.
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Norkaa
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:28:00 -
[64]
If I am paying for a service, a service I hope to receive 
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Tekka
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:28:00 -
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I blame T20.
Cause I can. »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»
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Torgund
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:28:00 -
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I think I've got this outage thing figured out. If I can play, then there's an outage likely. ;-)
A quick, serious suggestion, though: Why not set the forum on some seperate network somewhere, so that when we're booted out of the game, we don't find the forum to be a busted website as well.
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000Hunter000
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:29:00 -
[67]
posted in another thread as well, as soon as u get on, switch to a longer lasting skill, i suggest something that lasts way passed the RMR deployment.
I have a feeling these random crashes are not so random anymore.
Cruise missile L5, 22 days to go 
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BloodSpoon
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:29:00 -
[68]
Edited by: BloodSpoon on 13/12/2005 22:30:20
Originally by: 000Hunter000 posted in another thread as well, as soon as u get on, switch to a longer lasting skill, i suggest something that lasts way passed the RMR deployment.
I have a feeling these random crashes are not so random anymore.
Cruise missile L5, 22 days to go 
so they don't get 300 threads talking about what everyone already knows
EDIT: also the eve MOTD says investigating what "happened" don't they mean happening?
"ooooohh theres nothing wrong with killer robots from venus" |

Diesel
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:29:00 -
[69]
We broke the Internet
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Ghost Red
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:29:00 -
[70]
I don't know if this strictly relevant to the server crash, but when I pressed the button to log in, I belched at the same time. Maybe the two events are related? You may want to look at that.
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atambo
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:30:00 -
[71]
hope its back up soon!
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Capsicum
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:30:00 -
[72]
Unofficially, there appears to be a large Internet outage, thats affecting lots of different people - this isn't just an EVE/CCP thing, folks.
Again, thanks for your patience.
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Dale Cussler
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:30:00 -
[73]
Originally by: ThunderGodThor I think the Hamsters went on strike. They found out they getting replaced by gerbils. 
64-bit gerbils at that...
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patz
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:30:00 -
[74]
Today, I discovered this game. All the time at work, where I should have been working, I dreamed about playing it. Now, finally at home, I downloaded all those 500mb. I installed it. I registered my account. I started EVE Online. I was currently choosing my race. AND WHAT HAPPENS? SERVER CRASH! You can't imagine how disappointed I am. Server crash while choosing the character race. Just imagine that. I don't think that I will ever play this game again. Or only after its renamed to Eve Offline.
thank you very much, kthxbye.
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spoon2
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:30:00 -
[75]
Sigh.
If only the server would live to up to the standard of the game. Well over 2 years CCP the game is going from strength to strength, isnt it about time we had a more stable serve to match it.
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Varol
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:30:00 -
[76]
it was Ghost Red !!!! ;)
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BloodSpoon
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:31:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Capsicum Unofficially, there appears to be a large Internet outage, thats affecting lots of different people - this isn't just an EVE/CCP thing, folks.
Again, thanks for your patience.
LOL what timing.....this isn't a TOO common thing.......i guess 1 less rookie ship to kill
"ooooohh theres nothing wrong with killer robots from venus" |

Devoras2
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Tiuwaz I blame Grimpak 
OMG BLAME ME!
...someone PLEASE remind me NOT to go to AZN tomorrow
Why did you have to cut the cable! Why!? 
And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult! |

Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: atambo hope its back up soon!
w00t that means the server is still running and my tech2 drones are gonna raped by npc's 
My Latest Vid (16/11/05) |

Ghost Red
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:31:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Ghost Red on 13/12/2005 22:33:10
Quote: Today, I discovered this game. All the time at work, where I should have been working, I dreamed about playing it. Now, finally at home, I downloaded all those 500mb. I installed it. I registered my account. I started EVE Online. I was currently choosing my race. AND WHAT HAPPENS? SERVER CRASH! You can't imagine how disappointed I am. Server crash while choosing the character race. Just imagine that. I don't think that I will ever play this game again. Or only after its renamed to Eve Offline.
Can I assume from your comments that you're less than happy with the current situation? I find drinking heavily whilst looking at pron on the internet helps alot.
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Kaahles
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:31:00 -
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ey dudes... what about buying some extra hampsters? in my opinion it would reduce the amount of such total-crashes  |

Nathrezim
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:31:00 -
[82]
Originally by: ThunderGodThor I think the Hamsters went on strike. They found out they getting replaced by gerbils. 
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...Ok,so,any update coming up? as if whats the problem and how much time will be needed till things are INVESTIGATED and then DEALT with?
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:31:00 -
[83]
Bah!
I was playing Eve to avoid cleaning the toilet.
Oh well, on with the marigolds...
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |

SpaceBrotha
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:31:00 -
[84]
Let's hope it isn't a server popping, since a broken server will take considerable time to replace... |

spoon2
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:31:00 -
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Sigh.
If only the server would live to up to the standard of the game. Well over 2 years CCP the game is going from strength to strength, isnt it about time we had a more stable server to match it.
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JamesTalon
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:32:00 -
[86]
Can't even connect to the EVE website. Must be a big server crash :P
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vave
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:32:00 -
[87]
Do you guys run a Parallel Backup Server ? If so, did it also crash ? Not trying to be nasty or spiteful, just curious as to Software or Hardware probs...
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Capsicum
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:33:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Ghost Red
Originally by: Capsicum Unofficially, there appears to be a large Internet outage, thats affecting lots of different people - this isn't just an EVE/CCP thing, folks.
Again, thanks for your patience.
Can I assume from your comments that you're less than happy with the current situation? I find drinking heavily whilst looking at pron on the internet helps alot.
Well, I'd rather be playing EVE now too 
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maniago
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:33:00 -
[89]
I was just telling my wife that this crash is not Eve's fault and guess what!! Its not Eve's fault
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BloodSpoon
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:34:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Bravo 20 Still can't connect to the Tranquility server here!
gee thanks for the update
"ooooohh theres nothing wrong with killer robots from venus" |
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Bravo 20
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:34:00 -
[91]
Still can't connect to the Tranquility server here!
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RemDakar
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:34:00 -
[92]
Maybe someone filled Jita with shuttles again 
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Straego
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:34:00 -
[93]
Edited by: Straego on 13/12/2005 22:34:30
Originally by: JamesTalon Can't even connect to the EVE website. Must be a big server crash :P
Same, must've been really big. I thought it was me for a minute, restarted my modem and my router. Started unplugging stuff and editing firewalls. Hopefully its back soon.
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Cavy Dan
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:35:00 -
[94]
Bah, I had just crawled through space on Silence The Informant lvl 4. Used Cloaking Device to make distance, I guess the whole mission is Reset when the server is online again. Bah! More standing loss.
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Ghost Red
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:35:00 -
[95]
I've just discovered the interweb is a weird place.
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ishiii
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:35:00 -
[96]
Edited by: ishiii on 13/12/2005 22:35:52
Originally by: Tanya Kovacs seems there are several problems these days. Loads of crashes yesterday evening, this fatal crash right now, ... bit sucky with realtime-learning and "place short skills in the evening during regular playtime" Bet there will be quiet times again soon, but atm it sucks.
yer totally agree.. i am so ******* tired of it... i lose so many hours every time... just tonight i am going to lose like 8 hours, becouse i have to sleep very soon and the ccp can't get the ******* thing to work.. their could atleast do it so it would learn the next lvl of the skill after it was finish so it wouldn't be so cruesiel... **** it,,.
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hoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward.
Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both.
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chingon
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:36:00 -
[97]
back up!  
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Cpt Ghost
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:36:00 -
[98]
OMG, Why couldt it be 20min later.. My skills is done now.. 
And it happend last night at the same time.. 
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Gunsnroses
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:36:00 -
[99]
You guys keep saying, no service, crahsed again!?1!? and all this other crap.
If you had read the mods post, or googled u'd prolly see that the mod isnt lieing. There does indeed appear to be a large internet outage. It appears not to be CCP, so please dont bash them.
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MYICE
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:36:00 -
[100]
yaaaa its back on, runs off to play eve,
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TheOnyx
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:36:00 -
[101]
ishii...read before u comment ! its not CCP it seems...
Jeez...!
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BloodSpoon
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:37:00 -
[102]
436 players new low record wow! :P
"ooooohh theres nothing wrong with killer robots from venus" |

Blodius Maximus
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:38:00 -
[103]
Speaking as somebody that works for a company specialising in high availability websites (anybody bought anything from Argos or Comet recently?) this sucks. If CCP haven't sorted multi-ISPs and other STANDARD HA practises they want their arse kicking. Speaking as a n00b of less than 2 weeks then all the outages in that time at PEAK time are a major downer on this game.
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Braaage
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:38:00 -
[104]
Now watch them crash again as 17,000 player sall try and log in at the same time. ___________________________________________ http://www.eve-tutor.com
Picture based tutorial site for EVE-Online |

chingon
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:38:00 -
[105]

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ishiii
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:38:00 -
[106]
Originally by: TheOnyx ishii...read before u comment ! its not CCP it seems...
Jeez...!
i don't ******* care if its santaclaws, if i pay for a product i exspect to get it, or some kind of compansation for the lost of time etc... or atleast something!
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hoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward.
Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both.
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JamesTalon
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:38:00 -
[107]
Son of a.....It was aying STatus: ok, and had about 500 players on it...*cries* So close =(
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Pinstripe Giamatti
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:38:00 -
[108]
Originally by: SpaceJockey rename the game to Eve Offline
I'm sure someone's said that before, but it's still spot on!
I started playing earlier this fall and the quality of play (lag, server outages, etc.) has become a daily joke, in the game and in the forums. These guys have a product that is succeeding in spite of itself, yet they seem determined to kill it.
If there are consistent internal issues, fix them. If the cause is shoddy vendor service (i.e., hosting), enforce the LOS that you must have as part of your contract. Really, WTH is the problem? 
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spRAYed
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:38:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Gunsnroses You guys keep saying, no service, crahsed again!?1!? and all this other crap.
If you had read the mods post, or googled u'd prolly see that the mod isnt lieing. There does indeed appear to be a large internet outage. It appears not to be CCP, so please dont bash them.
Lo Dump.  -----------------------------------------
^u shall not delete my sig...^ |

Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:39:00 -
[110]
gah y can u guys log in and i cant :/ ;p
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Mira deVorsha
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:39:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Gunsnroses
If you had read the mods post, or googled u'd prolly see that the mod isnt lieing. There does indeed appear to be a large internet outage. It appears not to be CCP, so please dont bash them.
Internet traffic report doesn't mention anything of note. http://www.internettrafficreport.com/main.htm
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bUBbLeS
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:40:00 -
[112]
and down again
booo
i knew i shouldnt of stolen all CCP's cAKe
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Guntaro
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:40:00 -
[113]
Shouldn't there be some form of compensation to players when things like this happen repeatedly?
I am not talking about anything complicated, something as simple as some free isk to everyone would be sufficient.
Other businesses do it when customers experience problems so I think it would not be inappropriate here also.
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31i73
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:41:00 -
[114]
for a second, I just saw servers as "status ok, 498 players online" or something like that. I hit connect but it didn't work. Maybe some lucky sobs are still playing eveONLINE 
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fisho
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:41:00 -
[115]
REFUND... I DEMAND A REFUND!!! IF ONLY FOR THE SAKE OF MY POOR CAPSLOCK!!!!
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MaikAH
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:41:00 -
[116]
Any hint when you expect to be back online. It's getting kinda late here? 
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Silberhaar
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:41:00 -
[117]
And CCP mislabeled a button in this game. After the message "Could not connect to ..." There is a button "OK". But that it wrong! it is not OK if we can not connect. Therefore it should be labeled "NOT OK"!    
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Kane LeBaiton
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:42:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Braaage Now watch them crash again as 17,000 player sall try and log in at the same time.
Indeed...
"Server's up!"... *17k players try and log in*... Bound to go very very wrong 
Kane
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Straego
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:42:00 -
[119]
Wow... so close... 500 people. I click connect, and with my luck. Nothing happens. *sighs and twitches due to lack of EVE*
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BloodSpoon
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:43:00 -
[120]
Originally by: ishiii
Originally by: TheOnyx ishii...read before u comment ! its not CCP it seems...
Jeez...!
i don't ******* care if its santaclaws, if i pay for a product i exspect to get it, or some kind of compansation for the lost of time etc... or atleast something!
thats the kind of crap that makes things cost a lot more......justy stfu and be patient
"ooooohh theres nothing wrong with killer robots from venus" |
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Jaderpop
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:43:00 -
[121]
Just do what i do to any machine that doesnt work take a hammer to it trust me the machines will fix themself before you get close with the hammers
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Braaage
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:44:00 -
[122]
Edited by: Braaage on 13/12/2005 22:45:02 Heh it's all just a ploy to get everyone to log into Sisi (test server) for last minute testing   ___________________________________________ http://www.eve-tutor.com
Picture based tutorial site for EVE-Online |

Eta Carinea
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:44:00 -
[123]
Originally by: 31i73 for a second, I just saw servers as "status ok, 498 players online" or something like that. I hit connect but it didn't work. Maybe some lucky sobs are still playing eveONLINE 
Just hope the buggers are not shooting at my badger 
Quid Si Coelum Ruat
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Lori Carlyle
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:44:00 -
[124]
someone did post a comment about internet traffic at 100% packet loss, however since thats been like it for the last 24 hours and eve has just gone down, i think we can rule that one out, i think i'm gonna start counting the min's that i can't play (DT Excluded) and e-mail support at the end of each month!!!
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Nowayman
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:44:00 -
[125]
Originally by: RemDakar Maybe someone filled Jita with shuttles again 
If some one ready do this i think we can find 10k ppl's ready to kill him 
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TheOnyx
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:44:00 -
[126]
Originally by: ishiii
i don't ******* care if its santaclaws, if i pay for a product i exspect to get it, or some kind of compansation for the lost of time etc... or atleast something!
And you think this will help ?  We're all paying customers and it's out of our hands...and CCP's so it seems. If you wanna blame someone, blame the right person/party. And...show some respect at least...just a suggestion.
Whinerz...
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eleuthereus
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:45:00 -
[127]
Uhm, someone please ease my mind. I am still kind of a noob. My question is as follows.
I was loaded down with some of teh most valuable cargo I have ever carried, including 3 packages from courior runs and several Tech II mods. I was in Jita - safe enough - warping from the stargate to the station to dock when I got kicked and everything crashed. When I log back in will my ship still be where it was and still filled with the valuable cargo?
: - O]
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Hait
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:45:00 -
[128]
Got as far as character selection, and there wern't any!

followed quickly by dump.
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Ace Dionysus
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:46:00 -
[129]
Originally by: ishiii
Originally by: TheOnyx ishii...read before u comment ! its not CCP it seems...
Jeez...!
i don't ******* care if its santaclaws, if i pay for a product i exspect to get it, or some kind of compansation for the lost of time etc... or atleast something!
ishiii, you have obviously not experienced the "real world". Once you have moved out on your own, you will quickly find that you don't always get what you want and the world isn't perfect.
and the one thing you will definately learn is "CHIT HAPPENS !!" get over it. relax and go read a book or take the dog for a walk.
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Torgund
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:46:00 -
[130]
I don't want to be negative, but it does occur to me that I'm told frequently that there's an internet problem that is shutting down the game, when I can get to any other site I want to try whenever Eve-Online goes down.
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:46:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Mongo Smith Perhaps this is the problem: Network Outage
That router has been down all day. Not that I sit here looking at internet traffic reports all day or anything...
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Aarn Khaar
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:47:00 -
[132]
Please connect the Proxy back to the server. Thanks. 
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chingon
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:47:00 -
[133]
Originally by: eleuthereus Uhm, someone please ease my mind. I am still kind of a noob. My question is as follows.
I was loaded down with some of teh most valuable cargo I have ever carried, including 3 packages from courior runs and several Tech II mods. I was in Jita - safe enough - warping from the stargate to the station to dock when I got kicked and everything crashed. When I log back in will my ship still be where it was and still filled with the valuable cargo?
: - O]
your loot is probably stolen by those 500 GM's that where online 10minutes ago
No really,you'll be fine
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mallek
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:47:00 -
[134]
bump 
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Neesa Corrinne
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:47:00 -
[135]
If there's ever been more reason to have a skill qeue, then these constant outages are it.
It's ok when the servers do down for a 15+ million character, because he is most likely working on skills that are 7+ days to learn. All us newbies on the other hand are only working on skills that require a couple hours at most.
So who gets screwed in the end? The new players.
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Pabs Sco
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:47:00 -
[136]
MOD est up time 23:30, DB crash RTR Mining is recruiting convo me ingame if interested. |

Squelch
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:47:00 -
[137]
Originally by: ishiii
Originally by: TheOnyx ishii...read before u comment ! its not CCP it seems...
Jeez...!
i don't ******* care if its santaclaws, if i pay for a product i exspect to get it, or some kind of compansation for the lost of time etc... or atleast something!
The internet is broken. Who are you going to demand compensation from?
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ALUN
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:48:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Jaderpop Just do what i do to any machine that doesnt work take a hammer to it trust me the machines will fix themself before you get close with the hammers
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Amiglia
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:48:00 -
[139]
GRMLMRR... Need to change skill and pillow looks irresistable. pleeez (any and every entitys) make it back up
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ComradeGranite
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:48:00 -
[140]
Edited by: ComradeGranite on 13/12/2005 22:49:12 I'm gonna hazard a guess here, and suggest that is was the massive over crowding in Reblier in the Verge Vendor systems. Euphoria Released, Contraband and 3rd Front are at war, and the declaration passed just before the server's went bump.
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DeadDuck
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:48:00 -
[141]
Originally by: eleuthereus Uhm, someone please ease my mind. I am still kind of a noob. My question is as follows.
I was loaded down with some of teh most valuable cargo I have ever carried, including 3 packages from courior runs and several Tech II mods. I was in Jita - safe enough - warping from the stargate to the station to dock when I got kicked and everything crashed. When I log back in will my ship still be where it was and still filled with the valuable cargo?
: - O]
You should be ok 
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res0nance
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:48:00 -
[142]
Originally by: SpaceJockey rename the game to Eve Offline

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thedragoon
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:48:00 -
[143]
Just drove to CCP HQ and found that the tec swolwed the server plug but is doing his best to find it Linkage
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Bryan Durl
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:49:00 -
[144]
We now have an estimated backup time of 2330 GMT ------------------- How did i get here?
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Elea Electronica
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:49:00 -
[145]
3 77 ms 62 ms 61 ms linx-gw13.LON.GB.net.DTAG.DE [62.154.5.38] 4 61 ms 77 ms 61 ms 62.153.203.190 5 77 ms 77 ms 77 ms 157.157.62.10 6 * * * Zeitnberschreitung der Anforderung. 7 * * * Zeitnberschreitung der Anforderung.
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GouldFish
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:49:00 -
[146]
Edited by: GouldFish on 13/12/2005 22:52:34
Originally by: BloodSpoon
Originally by: ishiii
Originally by: TheOnyx ishii...read before u comment ! its not CCP it seems...
Jeez...!
i don't ******* care if its santaclaws, if i pay for a product i exspect to get it, or some kind of compansation for the lost of time etc... or atleast something!
thats the kind of crap that makes things cost a lot more......justy stfu and be patient
QFT -------- "Next time some f**** shoots someone and flies down the interstate at 90 mph. Instead of following it with a camera crew, they need to send in an Apache to just crater him" - Malthros Zenobi |

Lori Carlyle
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:49:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Wanoah
Originally by: Mongo Smith Perhaps this is the problem: Network Outage
That router has been down all day. Not that I sit here looking at internet traffic reports all day or anything...
yes thats for the last 24 hours, eve has just gone down, i think there not conencted...
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:49:00 -
[148]
Originally by: MOTD Database failure resulted in cluster shutdown, estimated back up at 23:30 GMT!

Originally by: Chowdown We camp a lot
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Budseed Othello
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:50:00 -
[149]
Man, I was like - soooo close to gettin back in...
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kieron

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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:50:00 -
[150]
We are attempting to determine the cause of today's network issues. At this time, reports of a major network outtage with long distance re-routes appear to be the cause. I have not received any notification e-mails that would signal a server issue.
For those that are asking for compensation for lost time, CCP is not responsible for connectivity issues between the client and the server. If there is a connectivity issue with your ISP or someone in the route to CCP other than our immediate ISP, that is an issue to take up with your ISP.
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online
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Mac Darwin
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:50:00 -
[151]
From Eve :
Database failure resulted in cluster shutdown, estimated back up 23:30 GMT!
So we have to wait ;)
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R'adeh
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:50:00 -
[152]
Grimpaaaaaaaaa******k!!!! WHYYYYY???!!! 
"blah blah blah, we killed you, blah blah blah, they killed us, blah blah blah, some more smack, blah blah blah killboard ina..." |

Silberhaar
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:50:00 -
[153]
Saw something about database failure. Back aproximately at 23:30 GMT
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31i73
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:51:00 -
[154]
omgomgomg, they updated the motd. And it does tell something about this situation. YAY, they have finally mastered the MOTD. Congratulations to whoever is responsible of it.
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Bryan Durl
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:51:00 -
[155]
Shall we start taking bets on when the server arises again? ------------------- How did i get here?
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DjDangle
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:51:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Wesley Harding It's alright. I'll just let my sister play The Sims 2 while I wait.
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo  ------------
"On My Signal, Unleash Hell" |

JamesTalon
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:51:00 -
[157]
w00t! 11:30GMT is the estimated time its back up!!!
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Ethidium Bromide
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:52:00 -
[158]
now that's a litle too late for me.
good luck finding the problem and eliminating it CCP!
good luck and have fun all those who don't have to go to sleep
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Friday Jones
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:52:00 -
[159]
Right after I got diconnected and CTD'd, I notice a Windows Security Update icon in my tray. So... I blame Microsoft.
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Neeria
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:52:00 -
[160]
So much trolls arround *hides*
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Dylatar
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:53:00 -
[161]
Hm ... that's real Murphy's Law ....
Unsuspected server downtimes always happen if I have a skill which takes only a few hours to finish and have to go to bed and switch it before it finishes. 
*waits* .... maybe I'm able to login and switch it and end my mission before it's really too late to stay awake. 
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Edison Frisk
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:53:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Capsicum
Originally by: Ghost Red
Originally by: Capsicum Unofficially, there appears to be a large Internet outage, thats affecting lots of different people - this isn't just an EVE/CCP thing, folks.
Again, thanks for your patience.
Can I assume from your comments that you're less than happy with the current situation? I find drinking heavily whilst looking at pron on the internet helps alot.
Well, I'd rather be playing EVE now too 
/emote wonders who you are....
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Golerre Evraun
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:53:00 -
[163]
Edited by: Golerre Evraun on 13/12/2005 22:54:19 well i guess this is a CCP problem.
since this is a database issue will there be a rollback, i'd hate to lose a ship to hostile drones because of this
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Kenan Waroria
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:53:00 -
[164]
Well, I¦m not going to get my time reward from my agent. Not even sure I¦m able to complete it, well that was a bad idea accepting that mission 
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Lori Carlyle
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:53:00 -
[165]
What no backup database ?... damn...
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Nowayman
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:53:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Mac Darwin From Eve :
Database failure resulted in cluster shutdown, estimated back up 23:30 GMT!
So we have to wait ;)
we will wait what elce can we do 
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Pantheon Lea
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:53:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire My guess: 1. CCP server pop? 2. International internet worm outbreak?
3. Space Invaders (the real ones)
Pantheon Lea
Itchy Trigger Finger Brothers - We mean you no harm |

Aba Tor
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:54:00 -
[168]
Hi I did a trace to the server and it stops at 157.157.62.10... so somwhere near the server i guess.. |

Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:54:00 -
[169]
Originally by: R'adeh Grimpaaaaaaaaa******k!!!! WHYYYYY???!!! 
you asking me? all I know it's my blame! -------------------
Celestial Horizon: we go zerg on you |

ishiii
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:54:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Squelch
Originally by: ishiii
Originally by: TheOnyx ishii...read before u comment ! its not CCP it seems...
Jeez...!
i don't ******* care if its santaclaws, if i pay for a product i exspect to get it, or some kind of compansation for the lost of time etc... or atleast something!
The internet is broken. Who are you going to demand compensation from?
not demanding anything.. but if i should i would do it from the peroson i PAY for playing... internet is the only place in the world where there arn't any compansations for screw-ups... even if its not your foult its still your responsibility to make it right:)
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hoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward.
Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both.
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Ashis
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:55:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Mac Darwin From Eve :
Database failure resulted in cluster shutdown, estimated back up 23:30 GMT!
So we have to wait ;)
Damn you Grimpak. __________
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DjDangle
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:55:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Golerre Evraun well i guess this is a CCP problem
No no silly, it's your client. It couldnt possibly be anything to do with the servers... ------------
"On My Signal, Unleash Hell" |

Lori Carlyle
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:55:00 -
[173]
Originally by: kieron We are attempting to determine the cause of today's network issues. At this time, reports of a major network outtage with long distance re-routes appear to be the cause. I have not received any notification e-mails that would signal a server issue.
For those that are asking for compensation for lost time, CCP is not responsible for connectivity issues between the client and the server. If there is a connectivity issue with your ISP or someone in the route to CCP other than our immediate ISP, that is an issue to take up with your ISP.
According to the news, my ISP is not to blame, your database is so..... where would you like me to send the request for compensation e-mail to?
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Vero DePero
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:55:00 -
[174]
Let's wait, hope our POS will be online still.
Vero waves to Vero 
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Mav Medicare
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:56:00 -
[175]
I got sooooo close that last time all the way to char select, then boom! or it just ent back to the log in screen, but boom sounded better i thought
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tezran
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:56:00 -
[176]
just started lvl3 mission just fired 6 torps at 2 ships whats the chance of me ship being ok when i log back on !
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Xroxor
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:56:00 -
[177]
Originally by: kieron We are attempting to determine the cause of today's network issues. At this time, reports of a major network outtage with long distance re-routes appear to be the cause. I have not received any notification e-mails that would signal a server issue.
For those that are asking for compensation for lost time, CCP is not responsible for connectivity issues between the client and the server. If there is a connectivity issue with your ISP or someone in the route to CCP other than our immediate ISP, that is an issue to take up with your ISP.
I have a realy LOONNGGGG patch cable! Can you plug this in for me 
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eleuthereus
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:57:00 -
[178]
Please, does someone know if my cargo will be safe in my ship? I was heading for docking perimeter in safe space - Jita. I have not experienced this kind of outage while so loaded down with vlauable cargo and still undocked.
eleuthereus
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Jakolb
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:57:00 -
[179]
I was in process of warping "home" from a belt mining, engines just warming up. Where is me ship likely to be - dust or safe? |

Kattara
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:57:00 -
[180]
Database failure has resulted in cluster shutdown...... hmmmm, so what does that mean to my account? Will i continue from where i got thrown out?
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Aba Tor
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:58:00 -
[181]
"Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established an internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong." still no connection..:((( *me turns to watch tv (the shame!!!!) |

Arhab
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:58:00 -
[182]
A friend of mine actually called Leve3 communications once because we all lost connection storming some big dragon in EQ. Needles to say she had no clue what he was on about. 
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Bunny Wunny
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:58:00 -
[183]
Originally by: kieron We are attempting to determine the cause of today's network issues. At this time, reports of a major network outtage with long distance re-routes appear to be the cause. I have not received any notification e-mails that would signal a server issue.
For those that are asking for compensation for lost time, CCP is not responsible for connectivity issues between the client and the server. If there is a connectivity issue with your ISP or someone in the route to CCP other than our immediate ISP, that is an issue to take up with your ISP.
then why does eve say that its a database error?
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Funia
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:58:00 -
[184]
i checked and my ISP has NO probs at all... not that i'll bother applying for the lost hours.
*just dont blame others, saying "well we cant see its our foulth it must be theirs"
.... *lol*
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Kaleena Tris
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:58:00 -
[185]
Edited by: Kaleena Tris on 13/12/2005 22:59:40 Database failure resulted in cluster shutdown, estimated back up 23:30 GMT!
thats in my little bottom right box when i select tranquility
edit: whoa, i read slow.... on my browser there was 4 pages when i submitted this.
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Sergio Ling
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:58:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Neesa Corrinne If there's ever been more reason to have a skill qeue, then these constant outages are it.
It's ok when the servers do down for a 15+ million character, because he is most likely working on skills that are 7+ days to learn. All us newbies on the other hand are only working on skills that require a couple hours at most.
So who gets screwed in the end? The new players.
so in a time where the players should rally together, and hold hands round a campfire while we sing songs and wait for the electricity to come back on, you think it's time to beat the poor old nag some more with some wine? er...whine. stop it! it aint happening, so stop crying about it.
stupid idea anyway
Originally by: Lluthiunne Atalaron He's too busy adjusting his leather pants and mullet to worry about petty things such as physics.
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var'ulfur
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:58:00 -
[187]
its them thier always trying to do bad things to us we must always look out for them    
talk is cheap the cost of action is enormus
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zeligs
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:58:00 -
[188]
At some point in time they have to say - so much, but no more. The servers / technology / client / or whatever will only allow so many concurrent connections and no matter what they say, the product is becoming oversold.
CCP should face reality and accept that they are not in a position to keep selling more and more accounts. Thats what is really frustrating. Look after your existing customers first, then get excess facility, then get more customers! Thats the order you do things.
I'm tired of hearing about new records being broken, whilst we all suffer these server problems. Wake up CCP! I dont care about how many more people have signed on, if everyone is paying for a product that is becoming unusable.
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ELaine Doi
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:59:00 -
[189]
Originally by: Ace Dionysus
Originally by: ishiii
Originally by: TheOnyx ishii...read before u comment ! its not CCP it seems...
Jeez...!
i don't ***ing care if its santaclaws, if i pay for a product i exspect to get it, or some kind of compansation for the lost of time etc... or atleast something!
ishiii, you have obviously not experienced the "real world". Once you have moved out on your own, you will quickly find that you don't always get what you want and the world isn't perfect.
and the one thing you will definately learn is "CHIT HAPPENS !!" get over it. relax and go read a book or take the dog for a walk.
errr - Ace Dionysus - if this was a freebie Counterstrike server then yes, but I beg to differ , I work for a big blue IT company ( the biggest in the world actually ) & I can tell you that if you drop a customer server , whether it is SEIBEL, SAP, exchange, oracle , or EVE whatever - the sh1t hits the fan & the customer gets financial recompens - no question.
This is NOT a "oh well it's only a game" argument.
If there are possible upgrades for performance or the apps, then they should be fully load tested on the test/dev servers beforehand, not on the prod setup.
If the game has a maximum capacity of users that can safely use it, then it should be capped until it can be safely expanded.
I'm a software engineer and a unix techy, so I understand what must be frantically going on in the background - but there is little excuse for dropping a service to paying customers - full stop.
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Jimius
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:59:00 -
[190]
Check out the CCP jobs page, they're looking for an System Admin and MS-SQL(wtf?!) DB Admin. Did the current guy get sacked?
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Kane LeBaiton
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:59:00 -
[191]
Originally by: eleuthereus Please, does someone know if my cargo will be safe in my ship? I was heading for docking perimeter in safe space - Jita. I have not experienced this kind of outage while so loaded down with vlauable cargo and still undocked.
I think it's safe to assume you're fine...
Kane
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MiKKa
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:59:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Capsicum Unofficially, there appears to be a large Internet outage, thats affecting lots of different people - this isn't just an EVE/CCP thing, folks.
Again, thanks for your patience.
Cold War Edition - Database failure resulted in cluster shutdown, estimated back up 23:30 GMT!!!
Interesting how these 2 statements dont go together.....
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Pinstripe Giamatti
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:59:00 -
[193]
Blaming players for logging back in en masse is just stupid. What would you expect them to do? Form an orderly queue? That's what the proxy is for.
Right now, I see "Database failure resulted in cluster shutdown." Huh? Isn't there any fault tolerance in this system? How about delaying RMR until Easter and just fixing what we have now, which rocks -- when it works. 
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Reina Dragon
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:59:00 -
[194]
wtf? been offline for over an hour now.. any chance of being back up soon?
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yanshi
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Posted - 2005.12.13 22:59:00 -
[195]
What about the test server. anyone have an idea where i can download the patch files? the links on the site or in game do not work for some reason. |

Rogue Echo2
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:00:00 -
[196]
hrm...they need a new server or something...0_o
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Capsicum
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:01:00 -
[197]
Originally by: MiKKa
Originally by: Capsicum Unofficially, there appears to be a large Internet outage, thats affecting lots of different people - this isn't just an EVE/CCP thing, folks.
Again, thanks for your patience.
Cold War Edition - Database failure resulted in cluster shutdown, estimated back up 23:30 GMT!!!
Interesting how these 2 statements dont go together.....
I don't know the mechanics of any server failure, but with such an outage - who can know what the side effects will be ?
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JamesTalon
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:01:00 -
[198]
*fiddles with an empty bottle...clicks the mouse as he refreshes, waiting for salvation.* Come on Salvation, daddy needs a new cruiser!
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zaqq
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:01:00 -
[199]
aww man, i was just about to undock and wipe a few pk corps off the eve map, singlehanded, urrgh, it must be their lucky day guess it'll have to wait
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Jaderpop
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:02:00 -
[200]
Well if its a database failure hammers wont work instead we must conduct a voodoo ritual. Not saying that itll work but its worth a shot..
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LnxPro
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:02:00 -
[201]
can anyone give me a working link for the test patches pls?
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Golerre Evraun
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:03:00 -
[202]
Quote: We are attempting to determine the cause of today's network issues. At this time, reports of a major network outtage with long distance re-routes appear to be the cause. I have not received any notification e-mails that would signal a server issue.
where are you getting these reports from b/c itr isn't reporting anything
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Ozzie Asrail
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:03:00 -
[203]
DB failure :( ouchie
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Pinstripe Giamatti
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:03:00 -
[204]
Originally by: Jimius Check out the CCP jobs page, they're looking for an System Admin and MS-SQL(wtf?!) DB Admin. Did the current guy get sacked?
If they need someone to negotiate a hosting contract with decent LOS guarantees, I'm available. And I'm willing to work for ISK and T2 mods!
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Sarleena
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:03:00 -
[205]
>_< Database failure? That doesn't sound user friendly. Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, champagne in one hand, strawberries in the oth |

Aba Tor
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:04:00 -
[206]
Originally by: ELaine Doi
errr - Ace Dionysus - if this was a freebie Counterstrike server then yes, but I beg to differ , I work for a big blue IT company ( the biggest in the world actually ) & I can tell you that if you drop a customer server , whether it is SEIBEL, SAP, exchange, oracle , or EVE whatever - the sh1t hits the fan & the customer gets financial recompens - no question.
This is NOT a "oh well it's only a game" argument.
If there are possible upgrades for performance or the apps, then they should be fully load tested on the test/dev servers beforehand, not on the prod setup.
If the game has a maximum capacity of users that can safely use it, then it should be capped until it can be safely expanded.
I'm a software engineer and a unix techy, so I understand what must be frantically going on in the background - but there is little excuse for dropping a service to paying customers - full stop.
Quoted for truth!!!! I pay so i should be able to play.... |

Pow3r Surg3
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:04:00 -
[207]
hello:)
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ELaine Doi
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:05:00 -
[208]
It would appear that I can connect to the test server , even though it is full . If the test server & prod server are next to each other ( logically & physically ) then this indicates that it is not a network issue.
just my 2pennywuth
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Kharakan
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:05:00 -
[209]
Now come to SiSi, guys =]
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Makree
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:05:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Lori Carlyle Server goes up and down more times then a london hooker....
The expression is "hooker's knickers". I think it must have come from more genteel times cause I bet London hookers don't wear them now. Can anyone confirm this?
I was waiting to be CONCORDED after killing a MM. I wonder if it classed as an exploit if I have not been killed?
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Necrosmith
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:05:00 -
[211]
Appears to be an internet problem. There is a major router in the UK that is down right now:
http://www.internettrafficreport.com/details.htm
It appears the problem is with the core2-pos13-3.ilford.ukcore.bt.net router.
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Pow3r Surg3
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:05:00 -
[212]
i tried, but the page to dl the new test patches are down
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radon8
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:05:00 -
[213]
Originally by: Jimius Check out the CCP jobs page, they're looking for an System Admin and MS-SQL(wtf?!) DB Admin. Did the current guy get sacked?
MS-SQL!!!! That explains everything.
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Drefsab
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:06:00 -
[214]
Database failure... that would be ccp or would that be the internet to blame then ??????? |

Elriond
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:06:00 -
[215]
omg guys, can u freakin whine anymore than u already are? go find something else to ****ing do. if u cant wait that long then oh well. **** happens.
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lomz
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:06:00 -
[216]
oh man! and I just started playing yesterday... 
oh well... lets just hope this problem gets cleared up soon
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Mav Medicare
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:06:00 -
[217]
As far as i know from when this happened the other day ur cargo will be fine, my comp has just shut down on me and my cargo has been fine when i logged back in, also the other day when it crashed, when i got back on i was just warping to the detination i had set b4 so guessing same this time.
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var'ulfur
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:06:00 -
[218]
is the test servers at the same location as the trnq? the test server is going on fine but the patch page is not working, says a few very bad things       now can t get a fix in anyway i dont feel so good
talk is cheap the cost of action is enormus
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Halunoto Vankaalen
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:07:00 -
[219]
Originally by: Jaderpop Just do what i do to any machine that doesnt work take a hammer to it trust me the machines will fix themself before you get close with the hammers
You don't need just any hammer, you need CCP Hammer
-----
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Lori Carlyle
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:07:00 -
[220]
Originally by: Aba Tor
Originally by: ELaine Doi
errr - Ace Dionysus - if this was a freebie Counterstrike server then yes, but I beg to differ , I work for a big blue IT company ( the biggest in the world actually ) & I can tell you that if you drop a customer server , whether it is SEIBEL, SAP, exchange, oracle , or EVE whatever - the sh1t hits the fan & the customer gets financial recompens - no question.
This is NOT a "oh well it's only a game" argument.
If there are possible upgrades for performance or the apps, then they should be fully load tested on the test/dev servers beforehand, not on the prod setup.
If the game has a maximum capacity of users that can safely use it, then it should be capped until it can be safely expanded.
I'm a software engineer and a unix techy, so I understand what must be frantically going on in the background - but there is little excuse for dropping a service to paying customers - full stop.
Quoted for truth!!!! I pay so i should be able to play....
Damn straght... we pay we should get to play..
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:08:00 -
[221]
Originally by: kieron We are attempting to determine the cause of today's network issues. At this time, reports of a major network outtage with long distance re-routes appear to be the cause. I have not received any notification e-mails that would signal a server issue.
For those that are asking for compensation for lost time, CCP is not responsible for connectivity issues between the client and the server. If there is a connectivity issue with your ISP or someone in the route to CCP other than our immediate ISP, that is an issue to take up with your ISP.
pwned by the server MOTD
Originally by: Tranquility MOTD Cold War Edition - Database failure resulted in cluster shutdown, back up 23:30 GMT!
I demand my refund of 4 cents for this unexpected downtime! Payable in 2 cent stamps please... 
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Aba Tor
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:09:00 -
[222]
Originally by: Necrosmith Appears to be an internet problem. There is a major router in the UK that is down right now:
http://www.internettrafficreport.com/details.htm
It appears the problem is with the core2-pos13-3.ilford.ukcore.bt.net router.
bccs433-s1-1-0-0.gip.net Venezuela (Caracas) There is also a probl with this one... has CCP lied to us for all this time and theya re actualy from venezuela???
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kieron

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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:09:00 -
[223]
I'm attempting to ascertain the reason for the change to the MotD. As of right now, I have not received any notification of server issues. Will continue to provide information as it becomes available.
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online
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Landariel
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:09:00 -
[224]
oh wow, everyday when a skill is nearly completed.....I am flying a Level 4 Damsel, my next skill has to wait now 7 hours and more because it's time to go to bed.....
no mission-bonus, no loot, no new skill, no server....good night.....
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Lori Carlyle
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:09:00 -
[225]
Originally by: Makree
Originally by: Lori Carlyle Server goes up and down more times then a london hooker....
The expression is "hooker's knickers". I think it must have come from more genteel times cause I bet London hookers don't wear them now. Can anyone confirm this?
Oops sorry it's been a while.. must go revist her at somepoint... i mean.. oh smeg
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Pow3r Surg3
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:09:00 -
[226]
Originally by: Lori Carlyle
Originally by: Aba Tor
Originally by: ELaine Doi
errr - Ace Dionysus - if this was a freebie Counterstrike server then yes, but I beg to differ , I work for a big blue IT company ( the biggest in the world actually ) & I can tell you that if you drop a customer server , whether it is SEIBEL, SAP, exchange, oracle , or EVE whatever - the sh1t hits the fan & the customer gets financial recompens - no question.
This is NOT a "oh well it's only a game" argument.
If there are possible upgrades for performance or the apps, then they should be fully load tested on the test/dev servers beforehand, not on the prod setup.
If the game has a maximum capacity of users that can safely use it, then it should be capped until it can be safely expanded.
I'm a software engineer and a unix techy, so I understand what must be frantically going on in the background - but there is little excuse for dropping a service to paying customers - full stop.
Quoted for truth!!!! I pay so i should be able to play....
Damn straght... we pay we should get to play..
lol the server goes down and the world collapses 
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Forino Ovoli
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:10:00 -
[227]
I've only been playing a month - in that time have only had 1 or 2 times I was disconnected or could not get in.
Stuff happens - at least they are communicative here and let us know ASAP. Heck, they even keep the launcher information up to date so you know about the problem before you try and connect.
Take it from a 2+ year SOE customer - things could be a lot worse. They rarely communicated, when they did it was in a vague and deceptive manner. They almost never kept the website, forum or launcher information up to date with what was going on.
I give the team here a VERY HIGH score on keeping us informed.
Since I've started playing here they have broken their own Peak Concurrent User record 3 or 4 times. For a game that is several years old, that is an amazing achievement that it's still growing like that.
Perhaps the growth is exceeding their current database and hardware configuration - overall, that's a good thing. I'd rather be part of a game that is growing than one that is shrinking and will soon have the plug pulled.
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Pow3r Surg3
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:10:00 -
[228]
well it starting up so u happy?
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Mav Medicare
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:11:00 -
[229]
All is good ive decided charlie and the choc dvd is the only way to go while i wait as i have no work 2moro so can just keep playing when it comes back online. in the mean time. "umpa lumpa dumpade do, i got a ser ver crash for you"
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Ozzie Asrail
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:11:00 -
[230]
Originally by: ELaine Doi
errr - Ace Dionysus - if this was a freebie Counterstrike server then yes, but I beg to differ , I work for a big blue IT company ( the biggest in the world actually ) & I can tell you that if you drop a customer server , whether it is SEIBEL, SAP, exchange, oracle , or EVE whatever - the sh1t hits the fan & the customer gets financial recompens - no question.
This is NOT a "oh well it's only a game" argument.
If there are possible upgrades for performance or the apps, then they should be fully load tested on the test/dev servers beforehand, not on the prod setup.
If the game has a maximum capacity of users that can safely use it, then it should be capped until it can be safely expanded.
I'm a software engineer and a unix techy, so I understand what must be frantically going on in the background - but there is little excuse for dropping a service to paying customers - full stop.
Just noticed the name! Pandora's Star awsome book :D
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radon8
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:11:00 -
[231]
Originally by: Necrosmith Appears to be an internet problem. There is a major router in the UK that is down right now:
http://www.internettrafficreport.com/details.htm
It appears the problem is with the core2-pos13-3.ilford.ukcore.bt.net router.
The history shows that that has been down for a long time. Looks unrelated.... http://www.internettrafficreport.com/history/81.htm
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Aba Tor
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:12:00 -
[232]
Originally by: Pow3r Surg3
Originally by: Lori Carlyle
Originally by: Aba Tor
Originally by: ELaine Doi
errr - Ace Dionysus - if this was a freebie Counterstrike server then yes, but I beg to differ , I work for a big blue IT company ( the biggest in the world actually ) & I can tell you that if you drop a customer server , whether it is SEIBEL, SAP, exchange, oracle , or EVE whatever - the sh1t hits the fan & the customer gets financial recompens - no question.
This is NOT a "oh well it's only a game" argument.
If there are possible upgrades for performance or the apps, then they should be fully load tested on the test/dev servers beforehand, not on the prod setup.
If the game has a maximum capacity of users that can safely use it, then it should be capped until it can be safely expanded.
I'm a software engineer and a unix techy, so I understand what must be frantically going on in the background - but there is little excuse for dropping a service to paying customers - full stop.
Quoted for truth!!!! I pay so i should be able to play....
Damn straght... we pay we should get to play..
lol the server goes down and the world collapses 
It has nothing to do with world collapse but i find it only fair that if i want to use a service (eve-online:P) that i payed for i should be able to...
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Biltic Creen
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:12:00 -
[233]
Time left: 8 minutes, 32 seconds
GoGo Server move it!
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Golerre Evraun
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:12:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Necrosmith Appears to be an internet problem. There is a major router in the UK that is down right now:
http://www.internettrafficreport.com/details.htm
It appears the problem is with the core2-pos13-3.ilford.ukcore.bt.net router.
2 small problems with your theory, "database failure resulted in cluster shutdown" and look at the data for that router, it appears to have been down long before this problem.
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Joe Tracker
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:12:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Necrosmith Appears to be an internet problem. There is a major router in the UK that is down right now:
http://www.internettrafficreport.com/details.htm
It appears the problem is with the core2-pos13-3.ilford.ukcore.bt.net router.
hmmm, I wouldn't want to be playing eve in Iran, or Texas (Pampa)ether.  Ha! You thought I would put something here, didn't you! |

Lori Carlyle
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:12:00 -
[236]
Originally by: kieron I'm attempting to ascertain the reason for the change to the MotD. As of right now, I have not received any notification of server issues. Will continue to provide information as it becomes available.
muffled comments on the 1st lot of text thats displayed at the start of the movie "dogma"
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var'ulfur
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:12:00 -
[237]
i had half of the birds flying as server went down i hope they dont land till i get back on if they do my ship will be way overloaded man you would think people were hooked on this game like it was ***** or somthing althought i feel swaet on my brow and my tummy hurts omg not me too
talk is cheap the cost of action is enormus
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Centari Wolfram
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:13:00 -
[238]
Originally by: Necrosmith Appears to be an internet problem. There is a major router in the UK that is down right now:
http://www.internettrafficreport.com/details.htm
It appears the problem is with the core2-pos13-3.ilford.ukcore.bt.net router.
If you look at the history of the router it's been down for more than 24hrs there for yer wrong
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Necrosmith
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:13:00 -
[239]
Hmm...after further review, they are saying it's a db problem.
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peroxide chase
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:13:00 -
[240]
Edited by: peroxide chase on 13/12/2005 23:23:05
Originally by: kieron We are attempting to determine the cause of today's network issues. At this time, reports of a major network outtage with long distance re-routes appear to be the cause. I have not received any notification e-mails that would signal a server issue.
For those that are asking for compensation for lost time, CCP is not responsible for connectivity issues between the client and the server. If there is a connectivity issue with your ISP or someone in the route to CCP other than our immediate ISP, that is an issue to take up with your ISP.
Where do i send a request for the prorated refund for downtime to ?
I can trace to the server. but the last hop (your server) times out so it = down. Also when i try and connect i get "proxy not connected" So this tells me your net work = the issue.
and now when i try and connect i get "starting up in (451 seconds)"
checked to connect again and i got "Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established an internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong."
Look at the little news window and see "Cold War edition - Database falure resulted in cluster shutdown, estimated backup 23:30 GMT!"
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PKlavins
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:13:00 -
[241]
Originally by: Pow3r Surg3 well it starting up so u happy?
WTF???
im in rome, italy...it aint starting up fo me.... -----------------------------------------------
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SpaceBrotha
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:13:00 -
[242]
Here's a little something that's even more painful than eve-offline: Ancient Chinese Torture |

Trakh Shardan
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:13:00 -
[243]
EVE 4TW CCP IS MY BEST FRIEND
ALL BE HAPPY
its only 1 day what the heck do U care ??
what I cant make my 1 mil ONOES !
chil out have funn cos CCP are doing everything to get it worked out !
Oh yeah and TRIGGER loves men !
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Eccentrica
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:14:00 -
[244]
Edited by: Eccentrica on 13/12/2005 23:16:41 Just a thanks to the people who handle the MOTD. Its good to have a open and honest cause of the problem. Coming from EQ2, where the communication between SOE and its customer's is non-existent when there is a problem, it is a very refreshing change.
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Sabe
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:14:00 -
[245]
Hey since the system is rebooting why not throw RMR in?
Heh... can't blame me for asking can ya? 
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MiKKa
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:15:00 -
[246]
Originally by: Necrosmith Appears to be an internet problem. There is a major router in the UK that is down right now:
http://www.internettrafficreport.com/details.htm
It appears the problem is with the core2-pos13-3.ilford.ukcore.bt.net router.
Necro, if you look at the graphs carefully you will notice, that router has been down for the last 24 hrs.....
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:15:00 -
[247]
just a continuation of recent days back up within the hour hopefully. Guess we got close to 20k again - during quite periods numbers are up to 15k as well so i guess it just couldnt cope with the load
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Swedish Bob
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:15:00 -
[248]
So is it the database or your DC? We are getting mixed messages here. Things have been going down with EVE way too much lately in any case.
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Ozzie Asrail
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:16:00 -
[249]
Edited by: Ozzie Asrail on 13/12/2005 23:16:21
Originally by: peroxide chase
Originally by: kieron We are attempting to determine the cause of today's network issues. At this time, reports of a major network outtage with long distance re-routes appear to be the cause. I have not received any notification e-mails that would signal a server issue.
For those that are asking for compensation for lost time, CCP is not responsible for connectivity issues between the client and the server. If there is a connectivity issue with your ISP or someone in the route to CCP other than our immediate ISP, that is an issue to take up with your ISP.
Where do i send a request for the prorated refund for downtime to ?
I can trace to the server. but the last hop (your server) times out so it = down. Also when i try and connect i get "proxy not connected" So this tells me your net work = the issue.
and now when i try and connect i get "starting up in (451 seconds)
Please send a first class stamped address to CCP, Iceland, Up North Somewhere. We will refund your ú0.002 within 8-10 days.
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schurem
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:16:00 -
[250]
i'd say the 80 to 90ish uptime percentages CCP are getting on their utterly cutting edge application are quite freakin amazing really.
just my 0.02isk
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Sha'Uri Dark
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:16:00 -
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Edited by: Sha''Uri Dark on 13/12/2005 23:18:52
Originally by: Forino Ovoli I've only been playing a month - in that time have only had 1 or 2 times I was disconnected or could not get in.
Stuff happens - at least they are communicative here and let us know ASAP. Heck, they even keep the launcher information up to date so you know about the problem before you try and connect.
Take it from a 2+ year SOE customer - things could be a lot worse. They rarely communicated, when they did it was in a vague and deceptive manner. They almost never kept the website, forum or launcher information up to date with what was going on.
I give the team here a VERY HIGH score on keeping us informed.
Since I've started playing here they have broken their own Peak Concurrent User record 3 or 4 times. For a game that is several years old, that is an amazing achievement that it's still growing like that.
Perhaps the growth is exceeding their current database and hardware configuration - overall, that's a good thing. I'd rather be part of a game that is growing than one that is shrinking and will soon have the plug pulled.
Lol, let me guess your a SWG vet. SOL err E ftl.
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Drakus Felborne
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:17:00 -
[252]
It's all my fault.
Science 4 was 30 seconds away and counting. I started drumming my fingers on my desk. According to Chaos Theory, the vibrations traveled through the earth and magnified enough to disrupt and crash the database.
I'm sure that's it. With my luck, I can't be wrong. Any bets on how far the database will roll back? Unless they have near-realtime transaction logging, I can bet stuff will get "undone"  |

Meths
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:17:00 -
[253]
Originally by: elohllird I blame Teqno 
LOL...TeqNoob strikes again
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PKlavins
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:17:00 -
[254]
ok anyone who sees the server as coming back up say "AYE". then tell me how long left 
i still see it as 'unable to connect'... -----------------------------------------------
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BloodSpoon
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:18:00 -
[255]
Originally by: SpaceBrotha Here's a little something that's even more painful than eve-offline: Ancient Chinese Torture
BWA!! wtf....i'll take the torture over eve being down 
and to the people who want compensation .....go out and earn the 40 cents you lost because of this
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Golerre Evraun
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:18:00 -
[256]
Originally by: Trakh Shardan EVE 4TW CCP IS MY BEST FRIEND
ALL BE HAPPY
its only 1 day what the heck do U care ??
what I cant make my 1 mil ONOES !
chil out have funn cos CCP are doing everything to get it worked out !
Oh yeah and TRIGGER loves men !
it's not the 1 day i'm worried about, it's the 30 seconds after the restart when blood drones put a dozen missles into my expensive and as of now irreplacable hull.
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Trakh Shardan
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:18:00 -
[257]
Originally by: Meths
Originally by: elohllird I blame Teqno 
LOL...TeqNoob strikes again
Oi leave him alone hes A good lad 
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Ace Dionysus
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:19:00 -
[258]
Where do i send a request for the prorated refund for downtime to ?
bahahahaha !!
go look under the cushion where your pop always sits. i'm sure you can find the equivilant $0.35
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Derwan Singh
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:19:00 -
[259]
Heh, this is nothing compared to EQ2, FFXI, or the first week of WoW... ::shudders:: EQ2 started off pretty well, but recently a routine 1hr downtime turns into 3+ hours. So this isn't bad at all! 
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monkeyman33
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:19:00 -
[260]
CCP constantly tells us that our losses and annoyances are the cause of our isp or general internet problems....this time is no different.
Customer means managing and delivering to customer expectations.
Constantly blaming other institutions and groups wears thin and may create liability....hopefully either CCP will figure this out, or competition will arrive that will provide a suitable option w/o the bs
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Joe Tracker
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:20:00 -
[261]
Originally by: var'ulfur i had half of the birds flying as server went down i hope they dont land till i get back on if they do my ship will be way overloaded man you would think people were hooked on this game like it was ***** or somthing althought i feel swaet on my brow and my tummy hurts omg not me too
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Ascano
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:21:00 -
[262]
Edited by: Ascano on 13/12/2005 23:22:06 Wrong char ;)
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Necrosmith
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:21:00 -
[263]
Hmm...after further review, they are saying it's a db problem.
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ELaine Doi
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:22:00 -
[264]
ok - coming up in 573 secs *wahoo* - as a result of a database failure - don't you just love microsfot products ! Not a network issue, just good ol' microsfot  
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Knossos
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:22:00 -
[265]
If you want to see see MOTD, just change the Server to Test, then to Tranquility.
It will then refresh the MOTD.
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Neat
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:22:00 -
[266]
Edited by: Neat on 13/12/2005 23:23:21
Originally by: kieron We are attempting to determine the cause of today's network issues. At this time, reports of a major network outtage with long distance re-routes appear to be the cause. I have not received any notification e-mails that would signal a server issue.
For those that are asking for compensation for lost time, CCP is not responsible for connectivity issues between the client and the server. If there is a connectivity issue with your ISP or someone in the route to CCP other than our immediate ISP, that is an issue to take up with your ISP.
I am sitting on a link with a direct feed into the UK backbone and I have no problem conecting to your local ISP. Trying to blame your server failure on global internet conectivity is unaceptable behaviour from CCP.
p.s.. if there was a net faliure we wouldnt be able to see the MOTD that tells us there is a DB problem.
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Necrosmith
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:22:00 -
[267]
Originally by: Centari Wolfram
If you look at the history of the router it's been down for more than 24hrs there for yer wrong
Yeah, I saw that right after I posted. My bad.
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Elriond
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:23:00 -
[268]
Originally by: Sabe Hey since the system is rebooting why not throw RMR in?
Heh... can't blame me for asking can ya? 
I completely agree! come on ccp you know you wanna! 
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Meths
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:24:00 -
[269]
Originally by: Trakh Shardan
Originally by: Meths
Originally by: elohllird I blame Teqno 
LOL...TeqNoob strikes again
Oi leave him alone hes A good lad 
I knows, I <3 TEQNO...
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Pazzz
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:24:00 -
[270]
Originally by: ELaine Doi ok - coming up in 573 secs *wahoo* - as a result of a database failure - don't you just love microsfot products ! Not a network issue, just good ol' microsfot  
crap. learn to argue. could as well be a hardware malfunction (raid crash). let's just wait and see.
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:24:00 -
[271]
meh i can see another round of mining to replace lost battleships etc - now there is a business idea - ie simply sell ships in the regions that suffer the most crashes and lost ships. I can see HAC prices going up further
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Thomus
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:25:00 -
[272]
who turned off the DB?
---------------- Tom |

hellraiser 2
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:26:00 -
[273]
Originally by: patz Today, I discovered this game. All the time at work, where I should have been working, I dreamed about playing it. Now, finally at home, I downloaded all those 500mb. I installed it. I registered my account. I started EVE Online. I was currently choosing my race. AND WHAT HAPPENS? SERVER CRASH! You can't imagine how disappointed I am. Server crash while choosing the character race. Just imagine that. I don't think that I will ever play this game again. Or only after its renamed to Eve Offline.
thank you very much, kthxbye.
Lol thats sounds sad also if you didn't manage to create a character then how the **** did you post this in the forums.
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KeenDevil
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:26:00 -
[274]
Considering we have the opportunity of having such a great game available to us, you'd think people would be a little more appreciative even if the servers go down for a short period of time..
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Mr Bigglesworth
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:26:00 -
[275]
I wish people would stop complaining in droves, we all hate unexpected down times, but atleast its bringing the server stability issues attention. Think of it as EVE-O's second start up phase - I bet the server had some problems when the game was first released, and in my opinion with the steady influx of new players its like a second release of the game, so new hardware problems are bound to pop up.
Lets just hope CCP can gain control and iron out all these problems before releasing the new patch
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PKlavins
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:26:00 -
[276]
how long til the server's back up? i STILL get the unable to connect...and the same DB MotD thingy....      -----------------------------------------------
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wore wore
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:26:00 -
[277]
Yep of course the server goes down when you have a short skill training in the same way as you can mine for hours with no sign of rats, but get the hauler out and they will be swarming all over your ass. But hey guys if it was all as chit as some of you make out we wouldnt all be here now would we.
And heres an idea if you have 3 accounts close 2 of them and keep the third then we could all play in peace without your macro mining accounts taking up our valuable bandwidth.
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Capsicum
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:27:00 -
[278]
Folks, until we know for sure what happened, theres no-one saying it's your ISP or anything else.
Please try and be civil, no doubt we shall hear something soon enough.
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ELaine Doi
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:27:00 -
[279]
Originally by: Makree
Originally by: Lori Carlyle Server goes up and down more times then a london hooker....
The expression is "hooker's knickers". I think it must have come from more genteel times cause I bet London hookers don't wear them now. Can anyone confirm this?
I was waiting to be CONCORDED after killing a MM. I wonder if it classed as an exploit if I have not been killed?
I think the expression is actually *****s drawers as in it goes up & down more often than a *****s drawers ( or fiddlers elbow if you are being polite :-) ) 
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Joe Tracker
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:27:00 -
[280]
I hope estimated time does not mean: well, we think . . .
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peroxide chase
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:27:00 -
[281]
Edited by: peroxide chase on 13/12/2005 23:28:39
Originally by: Ozzie Asrail Edited by: Ozzie Asrail on 13/12/2005 23:16:21
Originally by: peroxide chase
Originally by: kieron We are attempting to determine the cause of today's network issues. At this time, reports of a major network outtage with long distance re-routes appear to be the cause. I have not received any notification e-mails that would signal a server issue.
For those that are asking for compensation for lost time, CCP is not responsible for connectivity issues between the client and the server. If there is a connectivity issue with your ISP or someone in the route to CCP other than our immediate ISP, that is an issue to take up with your ISP.
Where do i send a request for the prorated refund for downtime to ?
I can trace to the server. but the last hop (your server) times out so it = down. Also when i try and connect i get "proxy not connected" So this tells me your net work = the issue.
and now when i try and connect i get "starting up in (451 seconds)
Please send a first class stamped address to CCP, Iceland, Up North Somewhere. We will refund your ú0.002 within 8-10 days.
it would be a $0.062 refund but if they were going to give out a refund i sure as hell would do it, it would cost them more to issue a check/money order than the refund its self, therefor i would do it just because of that.
If every one did so, CCP would be on hard times replying to the thousands of letters and mailing them back out.
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:27:00 -
[282]
well the recent problems have been ISP related ive spoken to my ISP (non eve websites were timing out left right and center) apparently there have been routing problems on the big ISPs of late esp in the UK and the US causing global internet timeouts and all sorts of traffic issues - one of the many worms as well as a spike in spam emails clogging up bandwidth
SO yeah its not just CCP not by a long shot
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DiamonBack
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:28:00 -
[283]
2nd time this week ... oh hell, i'll go train my solitare skills to lv49 
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Drefsab
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:28:00 -
[284]
You guys getting coming up in 452 secs, im getting unable to connect. Based in uk and can trace route to server fine....Odd
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Jaderpop
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:28:00 -
[285]
Im hearing alot of whining and complaining when did CCP add this new skill? heres something to do why you wait for EVE to come back pick up a book...... you know those paper things....... pick up a book and read makes the time pass ever so quickly trust jader.
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Atyka
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:29:00 -
[286]
Originally by: ELaine Doi
errr - Ace Dionysus - if this was a freebie Counterstrike server then yes, but I beg to differ , I work for a big blue IT company ( the biggest in the world actually ) & I can tell you that if you drop a customer server , whether it is SEIBEL, SAP, exchange, oracle , or EVE whatever - the sh1t hits the fan & the customer gets financial recompens - no question.
This is NOT a "oh well it's only a game" argument.
If there are possible upgrades for performance or the apps, then they should be fully load tested on the test/dev servers beforehand, not on the prod setup.
If the game has a maximum capacity of users that can safely use it, then it should be capped until it can be safely expanded.
I'm a software engineer and a unix techy, so I understand what must be frantically going on in the background - but there is little excuse for dropping a service to paying customers - full stop.
Hi Elaine Doi, since you are in the party, you know that it all depends on the SLA (Service Level Aggrement) between the Service provider and the customer.
Unfortunately, this is true for the service providers but the contract CCP has with the player, the EULA, is much more "loose" and there is no availability commitment at that level.
BTW, I am working for the other number one IT company in the world (the one with two letters) in a similar dept. as you :)
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Capsicum
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:29:00 -
[287]
The "proxy not connected" is not a Network error, It means that the Proxy has been disabled to stop people connecting to the cluster, whilst they get it working.
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ELaine Doi
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:29:00 -
[288]
we are up to 548 secs now - I think the counter is going backwards       
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Necrosmith
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:29:00 -
[289]
Hmm...what's annoying is that when I login it keeps showing me the countdown until the server gets back up, but then after the countdown is done it says proxy not connected and starts over again.
Anyone else get in yet?
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:29:00 -
[290]
server still showing not able to connect to 157.157 thingy
As for database server will there be any lost items missing or t2 BPOs deposited in my hanger by mistake :P
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Zanchi Gall
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:29:00 -
[291]
Spain's ISPs must be guilty too. Man, the whole internet must be down. 
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Daddy's Princess
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:31:00 -
[292]
Hmm, not starting up here (Australia) wtf is the deal??
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Joe Tracker
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:31:00 -
[293]
Originally by: Capsicum Folks, until we know for sure what happened, theres no-one saying it's your ISP or anything else.
Please try and be civil, no doubt we shall hear something soon enough.
The adjective civil has 6 meanings:
Meaning #1: applying to ordinary citizens
Meaning #2: not rude; marked by satisfactory (or especially minimal) adherence to social usages and sufficient but not noteworthy consideration for others Synonym: polite Antonym: uncivil (meaning #1)
Meaning #3: of or occurring within the state or between or among citizens of the state Pertains to noun: state (meaning #3)
Meaning #4: of or relating to or befitting citizens as individuals Synonym: civic Pertains to noun: citizen (meaning #1)
Meaning #5: (of divisions of time) legally recognized in ordinary affairs of life Antonym: sidereal (meaning #2)
Meaning #6: of or in a condition of social order
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Planek
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:31:00 -
[294]
Lets all move over to the test server.   If over 10k people get on it it will probably crash though 
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Sabe
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:31:00 -
[295]
Is it just me or when people say "ESTIMATED" they really mean "EARLIEST GUESS" and virtualy NEVER come sooner?
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Joe Tracker
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:32:00 -
[296]
u know, i never post on these forums unless the server is down. funny.
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Linia
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:32:00 -
[297]
The countdown thing is a biiit dump..
Mine have counted down from 600 twice now and both times it just started over.. whats the point CPP?  
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ELaine Doi
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:33:00 -
[298]
oi Atyka I was trying to blind everybody with my stupendous insider knowledge of outsourcing :-) what a bunch of amateurs we are hehe I know there isn't a bangaloreans chance of PD'ing a problem of getting anything from CCP - I'm just stirring that's all  
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:33:00 -
[299]
To those jetcan mining - youre stuffed To those on missions - and after tiem bonsues youre stuffed To those engaged in PVP - good luck To those finishing skills = ha ive got a 20 day skill training until RMR comes good To the database - please give me a t2 BPO by mistake To the NPCs - oh please have a triple dark blood spawn waiting when i get back To CCP = good work guys keep up the good work i was expecting issues with all these upgrades u have done a pretty good job at minimizing the disruptions these changes will make things better in the long run
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ELaine Doi
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:34:00 -
[300]
246 secs til the next clock reset  
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Neat
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:34:00 -
[301]
Originally by: sonofollo well the recent problems have been ISP related ive spoken to my ISP (non eve websites were timing out left right and center) apparently there have been routing problems on the big ISPs of late esp in the UK and the US causing global internet timeouts and all sorts of traffic issues - one of the many worms as well as a spike in spam emails clogging up bandwidth
SO yeah its not just CCP not by a long shot
Huh.. This is news to me and its my job to know :).. unless of course your an easynet customer as their stuffs be broken for weeks :)
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Planek
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:34:00 -
[302]
yay MOTD says they fixed it =)
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Planek
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:34:00 -
[303]
oh nvm...lol singularity is down also....funny....wasnt down when i came up to my computer about 10 min ago
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Sky Hunter
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:34:00 -
[304]
Originally by: chingon
Originally by: dabster skill finishes in 5 mins..bedtime asap..back online after work tomorrow in 18 hours 
omg don't let this happen to me too This game is too addictive to let that happen
Thats why its good to have a long skill training usually 
But, for me its same...skill finishes in like 10-20mins... -=-
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TimeKeepr
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:34:00 -
[305]
OMG TQ and SISI are both down at the same time!! the armageddon is near!!   
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Torquemanda Corteaz
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:34:00 -
[306]
Whatever the research, buying and installation timeframe was for upgrading the entire server farm to 64bit blades..... halve it,
I'm not complaining it's a technological feat, what CCP are doing, but it doesnt take an expert to see that TQ is deteriorating fast.
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Captain Merkin
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:35:00 -
[307]
oooh err a little disconection and people are up in arms..
yes it is happening every now and then and causing some very minor stress but hell it isnt the end of the world.
let them fix it like they always do and stop hassling the good folk, go do something important.. turn your underwear inside out for example.
and those of you asking for compensation stop being so pathetic this is now world of warcraft
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Rietsig
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:35:00 -
[308]
Yeah my Ops guys love to try and blame SQL all the time. 99% of the time its the firmware on the SAN that caused the problem or some dev who had a rogue stored procedure that was locking tables left and right. 
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Elriond
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:36:00 -
[309]
still cant connect myself. but dt for a bit doesnt bother me. i just jump on the forums/watch tv/etc. 
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:36:00 -
[310]
unable to connect again guess the MOTD is a wee bit early again
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Thomus
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:36:00 -
[311]
still broke. anyone noticed my stupid thread has been erased from existence COMPLETELY!?
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caldetie
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:37:00 -
[312]
it was quite obviously a ccp problem, yeah yeah the internet has problems blah blah, but accept your responceabilty, saying to the player base its not our fault we are innocent is bull.
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ELaine Doi
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:37:00 -
[313]
ok 100 secs to go before 10,000 ppl try to log in at once - here goes NIC combustion !
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kieron

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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:37:00 -
[314]
It would appear that the connectivity issues this evening are two fold and a combination of network issues outsite of the servers and a database issue as well. It would appear that the network outtage may also tie into the lack of notification mails being received.
We are attempting to resolve the issue with the database and will investigate the cause immediately. We apologize for the lost play time caused by the database issue.
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online
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Marlsia
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:37:00 -
[315]
Well, 23:30 has come n gone, my skill ran out 32 mins ago and I have work in 6 hours :( I will however wait until it is up and running then I will change to BS L5 for a month or so and then . . . . sleep.
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PKlavins
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:37:00 -
[316]
'looks like problem solved, coming back up'
yea right...i still cant even conect to the frickin' server..."UNABLE TO CONNECT TO 157.157.139.10 ON PORT 26000"
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Blodius Maximus
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:38:00 -
[317]
Lets get this into perspective slightly.
Eve has about 80k subscribers right - so over 1 million in revenue every month. This is *WAY* enough to run a resilient service.
Somebody hasn't planned for the increase in traffic/users or they're having development issues. Neither of which is an excuse for binning 18k users at peak UK time. Lets think about traffic shaping/throttling - hello CCP what are you doing?
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KrakizBad
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:38:00 -
[318]
I'm not getting the "starting in XXseconds" msg. Just says unable to connect still.
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Darion Bonareth
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:39:00 -
[319]
another revolution?! i¦m just a newbie on my 2nd day but ... why is that server named tranquility (heh) this aint the first time, and probably not the last ...
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Dirknar
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:39:00 -
[320]
tell me when tranq is back i gotta wiz
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Sabe
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:39:00 -
[321]
Edited by: Sabe on 13/12/2005 23:39:16 23:39 and counting
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JamesTalon
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:40:00 -
[322]
Well the motd claims its solved and its coming back up....still can't connect or anything fun yet...*goes back to refreshing the server a hundred times a second*
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KeenDevil
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:40:00 -
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Shirer Aprenon
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:40:00 -
[324]
Kieron - what hours do you work mate? do you sleep at the office??? Why aren't you off shift dude? ------------------ Dad (noun) - someone who's wallet now contains a picture where his money once was. |

Kane LeBaiton
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:42:00 -
[325]
Originally by: JamesTalon *goes back to refreshing the server a hundred times a second*
I'm so predicting another crash with 15k people logging in to see if they're fine or not from whatever they were doing before being thrown out... 
Kane
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BattleBot
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:43:00 -
[326]
can you clarify that uk players cannot connect to the server at this moment? i know a few people from other countrys who are logged on
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Dale Cussler
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:43:00 -
[327]
Originally by: Blodius Maximus Lets get this into perspective slightly.
Eve has about 80k subscribers right - so over 1 million in revenue every month. This is *WAY* enough to run a resilient service.
Somebody hasn't planned for the increase in traffic/users or they're having development issues. Neither of which is an excuse for binning 18k users at peak UK time. Lets think about traffic shaping/throttling - hello CCP what are you doing?
Traffic shaping and/or throttling will do what? Create a screwed up game experience for 18k users. I'd rather just get disconnected than having to deal with a traffic shaper telling me "nuh uh, you're gonna be laggy for the rest of the evening because I needs to give everyone their fair share".
Network issues can't be fixed by CCP themselves, if it's got to do with their upstreams. The only thing they can do is yell and threaten with the ebil ebil lawyers. DB server taking a dump, sure, that is something they can fix, and I'm sure they'll get it fixed shortly.
And for everyone who's threatening to take their X amount of accounts, why talk? Just do it, and quitcher*****in.
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Sabe
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:44:00 -
[328]
Liars it's not coming back up... ever! :(
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VinLieger
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:44:00 -
[329]
Could someone please post how long is left cus im still getting unable to connect
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caldetie
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:45:00 -
[330]
Originally by: kieron It would appear that the connectivity issues this evening are two fold and a combination of network issues outsite of the servers and a database issue as well. It would appear that the network outtage may also tie into the lack of notification mails being received.
We are attempting to resolve the issue with the database and will investigate the cause immediately. We apologize for the lost play time caused by the database issue.
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one thing that will hack people of more than not being able to play is hearing bull about not our fault etc etc, have the balls to admit it.
ie= another contradictive motd to your post...looks like problem solved, comeing back up, what you fixed the internet, of course that wasnt your fault, outstanding!
wheres the book for customer diplomacy skills.
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Carrde
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:45:00 -
[331]
Originally by: Blodius Maximus Lets get this into perspective slightly.
Eve has about 80k subscribers right - so over 1 million in revenue every month. This is *WAY* enough to run a resilient service.
Somebody hasn't planned for the increase in traffic/users or they're having development issues. Neither of which is an excuse for binning 18k users at peak UK time. Lets think about traffic shaping/throttling - hello CCP what are you doing?
Given that CCP run bleeding edge servers chucking about mind boggling amounts of transactions every second for 23 hours of the day I think it's surprising they don't fall over more often.
For those who do work in IT related fields surely you must understand it's not merely a case of 'hire more staff' or 'buy more servers!'.
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Furrycheeky
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:45:00 -
[332]
Uk here too and server is not available. "unable to connect to 157.157" etc
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Landariel
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:45:00 -
[333]
still stucked in this mission, now without a skill in training.....have to sleep, 18 hours without training from now.....this sucks......
no new skill, no mission bonus, no loot, no server....
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Nowayman
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:45:00 -
[334]
i'm gethig this message unable to connect to 157.157.139.10 on port 26000 will this be fixed 
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31i73
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:46:00 -
[335]
I just heard that some ppl are already playing. It still seems like offline to me, so CCP don't go to sleep yet please :)
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BlackKnight
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:46:00 -
[336]
US player in CDT time. All I am getting is a "looks like the problems solved, coming back up....". It's been that way for 10 mins or so.
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Kinsy
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:46:00 -
[337]
OMAGAD Why did you have to take down the test server as well 
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VinLieger
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:46:00 -
[338]
Yeah im Ireland and im still getting that: unable to connect on port etc...
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DIABLOII
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:47:00 -
[339]
Edited by: DIABLOII on 13/12/2005 23:48:47 I think CCP are having several Problems with the load :)
EVE is simply to good .. but as you can see on evenews.com there were a couple of problems also yesterday around the same time , I have the feeling since 2 Month the system isgetting less stable every day and the people on the server are rising.
It is time to discuss if there shouldnt be a stop to new players or at least to trial account until the new 64Bit hardware ist installed. It would be very intrested how hi the load is just from the Trialaccount players ?
Kieron thanks for taking the time and informing us on that "large scale" outage, I dont think that you will get much sleep tonight :)
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Tanya Kovacs
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:47:00 -
[340]
Just one last question: Why does somebody see the countdown and somebody just get the "unable to connect to..."-message? Germany here (Arcor) and just getting "unable to connect..." - no countdown. 
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:47:00 -
[341]
keep the servers offline, throw RMR on them and tell everyone to come back at friday 
Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Fabster
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:48:00 -
[342]
ohnoes.....my skill just finished and I can't set a new one. This make me sad....!!!
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Neat
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:48:00 -
[343]
Originally by: Carrde
Originally by: Blodius Maximus Lets get this into perspective slightly.
Eve has about 80k subscribers right - so over 1 million in revenue every month. This is *WAY* enough to run a resilient service.
Somebody hasn't planned for the increase in traffic/users or they're having development issues. Neither of which is an excuse for binning 18k users at peak UK time. Lets think about traffic shaping/throttling - hello CCP what are you doing?
Given that CCP run bleeding edge servers chucking about mind boggling amounts of transactions every second for 23 hours of the day I think it's surprising they don't fall over more often.
For those who do work in IT related fields surely you must understand it's not merely a case of 'hire more staff' or 'buy more servers!'.
Ive got no problem that the servers fall over( though its strating to take the ****), just dont like hearing BS, you guys are becoming the BT of MMO's 
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Planek
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:48:00 -
[344]
usually they do these optimizations and changes during the downtime....and if they are changing something and want to update it, they tell everyone in-game that they are doing it before they shut it down...Perhaps they are resetting every node and then their going to turn it on....
P.S: I have no idea what im talking about lol
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Carrde
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:49:00 -
[345]
Originally by: VinLieger Yeah im Ireland and im still getting that: unable to connect on port etc...
At a rough guess I reckon they are blocking some player/country IP's from connecting straight away to avoid any server problems as people flood back in.
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Craminu
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:49:00 -
[346]
looks like it are still offline :( unable to connect. ill give it few more min then i am of to bed. and trying in the morning.
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Jaderpop
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:49:00 -
[347]
Yes i too am still getting the unable to connect message I must go back to chanting louder.
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Sabe
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:49:00 -
[348]
Originally by: Carrde
Originally by: Blodius Maximus Lets get this into perspective slightly.
For those who do work in IT related fields surely you must understand it's not merely a case of 'hire more staff' or 'buy more servers!'.
Somehow I get the impression you work in IT, and may I suggest not more staff or servers, better staff and servers instead? 
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Sinari Galdrin
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:49:00 -
[349]
Routing problems somewhere (either within CCP, or Iceland telecoms)
Tracing route to 157.157.139.10 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 3 19 ms 20 ms 19 ms 4 18 ms 21 ms 22 ms lon3-14.nildram.net [84.12.224.33] 5 18 ms 18 ms 22 ms ldn-b3-geth5-1.telia.net [213.248.100.29] 6 29 ms 20 ms 22 ms ldn-bb2-pos6-1-0.telia.net [213.248.64.49] 7 18 ms 18 ms 20 ms ldn-b2-pos12-3.telia.net [213.248.64.74] 8 25 ms 21 ms 22 ms dtag.telia.net [213.248.75.106] 9 21 ms 19 ms 19 ms linx-gw13.LON.GB.net.DTAG.DE [62.154.5.38] 10 19 ms 19 ms 21 ms 62.153.203.190 11 25 ms 30 ms 29 ms 157.157.62.10 12 * * * Request timed out.
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Planek
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:50:00 -
[350]
according to those posts about each node....it looks like their resetting them cause there keeps being more nodes coming online
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Elriond
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:51:00 -
[351]
makes sense if they block to keep from flooding back in. cant connect and eastern us player.
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Sabe
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:51:00 -
[352]
It's a conspiracy, to get teenagers to do their homework after school instead of playing Eve... crash the server right when they get home.
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Silberhaar
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:51:00 -
[353]
Still not up
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Balban Cain
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:52:00 -
[354]
Edited by: Balban Cain on 13/12/2005 23:58:11 I cry for my lost SP
Still can not connect to server :(
tracert result
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.253.254 2 13 ms 13 ms 12 ms adsl-213-249-178-254.karoo.KCOM.COM [213.249.178.254] 3 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms vlan-201.nr1.civ.ipc.kcom.com [10.102.240.65] 4 15 ms 15 ms 14 ms 10.53.12.10 5 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms 212.187.136.21 6 26 ms 15 ms 34 ms so-6-1-0.mp2.Manchesteruk1.Level3.net [4.68.113.118] 7 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms ae-1-0.bbr2.London1.Level3.net [212.187.128.57] 8 21 ms 22 ms 22 ms ge-6-2.core1.London1.Level3.net [212.187.131.181] 9 23 ms 21 ms 22 ms DTAG-Level3.Level3.net [212.187.131.82] 10 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms linx-gw13.LON.GB.net.DTAG.DE [62.154.5.38] 11 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms 62.153.203.190 12 22 ms 23 ms 22 ms 157.157.62.10 13 * * * Request timed out.
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BlackKnight
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:52:00 -
[355]
I concur with Sinari. Tracert from central US to server:
C:\>tracert 157.157.139.10
Tracing route to 157.157.139.10 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1 2 194 ms 198 ms 195 ms cisco-rockin.n-connect.net [66.6.34.1] 3 32 ms 33 ms 34 ms 12.118.254.49 4 54 ms 59 ms 58 ms gbr2-p29.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.123.5.158] 5 65 ms 62 ms 56 ms tbr1-p013602.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.11.37] 6 63 ms 56 ms 58 ms tbr1-cl14.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.10.1] 7 58 ms 53 ms 53 ms ggr1-p360.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.123.1.121] 8 50 ms 83 ms 58 ms att-gw.nyc.dtag.de [192.205.32.58] 9 120 ms 140 ms 132 ms isp-linx-gw13-o.nmc-m.dtag.de [217.239.38.241] 10 120 ms 121 ms 139 ms 62.153.203.190 11 118 ms 123 ms 121 ms 157.157.62.10 12 * * * Request timed out. 13 * * * Request timed out. 14 * * * Request timed out. 15 * *
It's not an ISP issue on this end. And it's not a UK router problem on this end either.
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d'Mortaigne
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:52:00 -
[356]
Yay! Just got home from work, Have 2 hours to spend on Eve, and 2 on sleep before I have to go to the next shift..OF COURSE the servers are down at that very small window of time;) lol
(and yeah my boss is prol Amarr too..)
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Guntaro
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:52:00 -
[357]
Originally by: Landariel still stucked in this mission, now without a skill in training.....have to sleep, 18 hours without training from now.....this sucks......
no new skill, no mission bonus, no loot, no server....
Yes, can we all have 10 million isk as compensation please?
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Neat
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:52:00 -
[358]
Originally by: Sinari Galdrin Routing problems somewhere (either within CCP, or Iceland telecoms)
Tracing route to 157.157.139.10 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 3 19 ms 20 ms 19 ms 4 18 ms 21 ms 22 ms lon3-14.nildram.net [84.12.224.33] 5 18 ms 18 ms 22 ms ldn-b3-geth5-1.telia.net [213.248.100.29] 6 29 ms 20 ms 22 ms ldn-bb2-pos6-1-0.telia.net [213.248.64.49] 7 18 ms 18 ms 20 ms ldn-b2-pos12-3.telia.net [213.248.64.74] 8 25 ms 21 ms 22 ms dtag.telia.net [213.248.75.106] 9 21 ms 19 ms 19 ms linx-gw13.LON.GB.net.DTAG.DE [62.154.5.38] 10 19 ms 19 ms 21 ms 62.153.203.190 11 25 ms 30 ms 29 ms 157.157.62.10 12 * * * Request timed out.
um dude.. 157.157.62.10 is the edge of their network.. not routing issues there
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Quel Ataris
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:52:00 -
[359]
Ireland Dialup -- Unable to connect Germany (Satellite BB Connection ) -- Unable to Connect
hmmm
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Gradinger
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:53:00 -
[360]
2 7 ms 7 ms 12 ms TK212017116005.univie.teleweb.at [212.17.116.5]
3 7 ms 11 ms 10 ms at-vie-pe-r11d-ser-5-1-0.upc.at [212.17.99.141]
4 30 ms 7 ms 9 ms at-vie-pe-m15e-vlan501.upc.at [212.17.99.198] 5 * * * Zeitnberschreitung der Anforderung. 6 32 ms 9 ms 9 ms at-vie01a-rd2-pos-10-0.aorta.net [213.46.173.37]
7 29 ms 14 ms 8 ms at-vie01a-rd1-ge-15-0.aorta.net [213.46.173.137]
8 8 ms 7 ms 9 ms at-vie02a-ri1-pos-4-0.aorta.net [213.46.173.6] 9 7 ms 9 ms 13 ms 213.46.173.178 10 42 ms 44 ms 42 ms isp-linx-gw13-o.nmc-m.dtag.de [217.239.38.241] 11 42 ms 44 ms 41 ms 62.153.203.190 12 42 ms 50 ms 42 ms 157.157.62.10 13 * * * Zeitnberschreitung der Anforderung. 14 ^C
weird enuff i get a timeout when entering the vienna-backbone from my isp¦s net :/ but also when entering the 157.157-subnet (CCP¦s provider i guess?)
just some infos...
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Sky Hunter
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:53:00 -
[361]
Originally by: sonofollo before each patch there are changes made to all sorts of things - CCP fiddles and prods at TQ running hotfixes and optimisations - these issues go 2 weeks before a big patch and 2 weeks after - given its 1 month out of every 6 (and then u get outside network factors like some twit at a major ISP rerouting traffic donw the wrong line or pulling the wrong plug esp nera xmas) then the whole internet goes kaput toa a dgree and this also affects eve.
As stated they are looking itno it aim for around 0200 for reboot everyone that needs bed goto bed the rest of us well we add lots of forum ideas
yup. noone would complain, just its not very nice to loose training time, when you usually try not to miss. -=-
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Asiom Matter
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:54:00 -
[362]
here's one from croatia, also not an ISP problem here :(
vrataput:~# traceroute 157.157.139.10 traceroute to 157.157.139.10 (157.157.139.10), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 217.68.86.2 (217.68.86.2) 2.489 ms 2.306 ms 1.236 ms 2 217.68.86.201 (217.68.86.201) 5.201 ms 4.036 ms 6.527 ms 3 217.68.86.214 (217.68.86.214) 14.160 ms 13.733 ms 16.830 ms 4 217.68.81.49 (217.68.81.49) 18.027 ms 14.416 ms 14.203 ms 5 ljubljana2-ae0-1001.amis.net (212.18.35.101) 16.027 ms 18.172 ms 19.930 ms 6 maribor2-so-0-1-0-0.amis.net (212.18.41.78) 20.260 ms maribor2-so-0-2-0-0.amis.net (212.18.41.86) 20.774 ms maribor2-so-0-1-1-0.amis.net (212.18.41.74) 19.321 ms 7 vienna1-ge-0-1-0-0.amis.net (212.18.35.202) 24.609 ms 23.784 ms 22.422 ms 8 80.120.176.181 (80.120.176.181) 26.968 ms 22.607 ms 24.875 ms 9 195.3.70.169 (195.3.70.169) 25.182 ms 48.953 ms 26.085 ms 10 VIX-gw1.AT.net.DTAG.DE (193.203.0.40) 24.664 ms 30.149 ms 26.880 ms 11 isp-linx-gw13-o.nmc-m.dtag.de (217.239.38.241) 55.348 ms 54.285 ms 71.314 ms 12 62.153.203.190 (62.153.203.190) 54.734 ms 53.635 ms 60.403 ms 13 157.157.62.10 (157.157.62.10) 58.510 ms 56.352 ms 59.279 ms 14 * * * 15 * * *
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Gator McKlusky
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:54:00 -
[363]
If they are blocking....then simply tell us so. If not, change the MOTD.
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Mr Fishsticks
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:54:00 -
[364]
"Looks like problem solved, server coming back up."
Lies.
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var'ulfur
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:54:00 -
[365]
ok so im here in florida usa no go so who ? is playing time for a word from the powers that be dont you think?
talk is cheap the cost of action is enormus
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Vishnej
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:55:00 -
[366]
Edited by: Vishnej on 13/12/2005 23:59:01
Originally by: kieron I'm attempting to ascertain the reason for the change to the MotD. As of right now, I have not received any notification of server issues. Will continue to provide information as it becomes available.
Would seem to be miscommunication. The internet outage in a major British backbone router has been around for >24h.
The server may be in staggered login mode - several alliancemates are able to login. ---------------------------- T2 Destroyers: a proposal Requested Changes: An alphabet's worth |

apone2000
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:56:00 -
[367]
Tracing route to 157.157.139.10 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1 2 1 ms 2 ms 2 ms 192.168.192.1 3 3 ms 2 ms 3 ms officeportal.gateway.2wire.net [172.16.0.1] 4 18 ms 16 ms 15 ms esr4.ilford5.broadband.bt.net [217.47.23.143] 5 16 ms 16 ms 15 ms 217.47.23.30 6 18 ms 16 ms 17 ms 213.123.78.5 7 16 ms 16 ms 18 ms 217.41.170.118 8 34 ms 16 ms 18 ms 217.41.170.54 9 16 ms 17 ms 17 ms 217.47.250.242 10 16 ms 17 ms 16 ms core1-pos15-1.ilford.ukcore.bt.net [194.72.20.12 1] 11 20 ms 17 ms 16 ms transit2-pos5-0.ilford.ukcore.bt.net [194.72.20. 154] 12 17 ms 16 ms 14 ms t2c2-p8-0.uk-ilf.eu.bt.net [166.49.168.97] 13 16 ms 16 ms 17 ms t2c1-p1-0.uk-lon1.eu.bt.net [166.49.208.118] 14 16 ms 17 ms 15 ms t2a5-ge2-0.uk-lon1.eu.bt.net [166.49.135.115] 15 16 ms 17 ms 16 ms 166-49-214-130.eu.bt.net [166.49.214.130] 16 16 ms 22 ms 16 ms isp-linx-gw13-o.nmc-m.dtag.de [217.239.38.241] 17 19 ms 17 ms 16 ms 62.153.203.190 18 20 ms 19 ms 17 ms 157.157.62.10 19 * * * Request timed out.
different start point, same problem point....
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BloodSpoon
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:56:00 -
[368]
Edited by: BloodSpoon on 13/12/2005 23:57:08 is anyone back up?....says coming back up but still nothing :'(
EDIT: wow i refreshed and didn't notice the next bunch of pages
"ooooohh theres nothing wrong with killer robots from venus" |

Darkireland
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:56:00 -
[369]
Hm my friend can log on but i cant :(
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d'Mortaigne
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:56:00 -
[370]
Originally by: var'ulfur ok so im here in florida usa no go so who ? is playing time for a word from the powers that be dont you think?
Yeah. Right... I'll have the yellow one please.
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FiberEagle
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:56:00 -
[371]
I understand the problem but why the need for lieing?
Problem solved my ***... Eve doesnt even see the server let alone let it say cluster full!
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Karn Caranthyr
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:56:00 -
[372]
Edited by: Karn Caranthyr on 13/12/2005 23:56:45 says its up, yet i cant connect to service either :(
Tracing route to 157.157.139.10 over a maximum of 30 hops 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms v2104 [192.168.*.*] 2 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms 10.67.80.1 3 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms cosh-t2cam1-b-v108.inet.ntl.com [80.3.162.161] 4 10 ms 18 ms 13 ms cosh-t2core-b-ge-wan62.inet.ntl.com [80.3.161.145] 5 9 ms 8 ms 8 ms gfd-bb-b-so-210-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.253] 6 28 ms 28 ms 28 ms so-2-0-0-bcr1.tsd.cw.net [166.63.211.149] 7 26 ms 30 ms 27 ms so-1-3-0-dcr1.tsd.cw.net [195.2.10.58] 8 36 ms 29 ms 31 ms so-1-0-0-zcr1.lnt.cw.net [195.2.10.125] 9 36 ms 30 ms 26 ms ge-1-0-0-war1.lnt.cw.net [166.63.222.138] 10 10 ms 18 ms 10 ms dtag.lnt.cw.net [195.2.10.218] 11 9 ms 20 ms 15 ms 62.153.203.190 12 14 ms 10 ms 10 ms 157.157.62.10 13 * * * Request timed out. 14 * * * Request timed out. 15 * * * Request timed out. 16 * * * Request timed out. 17 *
(EDIT: remove dpointless lines)
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Saul Thrace
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:56:00 -
[373]
You mean, that for the first time since I've started playing EVE, I'm actually going to get a good night's sleep? This is bloody outreagous! 
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SGXiphias
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:56:00 -
[374]
Edited by: SGXiphias on 13/12/2005 23:56:59
Tracing route to 157.157.139.10 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1 2 9 ms 10 ms 28 ms 10.124.64.1 3 * * * Request timed out. 4 * * * Request timed out. 5 * * * Request timed out. 6 * * * Request timed out. 7 * * * Request timed out. 8 * * * Request timed out. 9 ^C C:\Documents and Settings\Chris>
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Shinnen
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:56:00 -
[375]
Originally by: Mr Fishsticks "Looks like problem solved, server coming back up."
Lies.
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Sinari Galdrin
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:56:00 -
[376]
Well, either the server's down (in which case how are people seeing countdowns or actually (allegedly) being online?) or it's a routing or firewall problem in Iceland Telecom or CCP's Internal LAN
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BlasterX
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:57:00 -
[377]
It's not hard to design an application that handles errors.
And for god's sake why the hell did a db failure cascade the entire cluster. Thats the whole point of clusters. To stop node failures munting the availablity.
Proper testing and less fly by the seat of the pants coding is the answer. You can clearly see this is crap because the messages on the login box arent appearing in time.
Someones going. Crap its been 30 mins since we promised our 18k users the servers would be up. Maybe we should give them an excuse to keep them happy.
I would be happy knowing the servers were coming up at 1am instead of someone saying they'll be up at 11:30pm, oh no somethings broken... They'll be up at 12am... oh no something else has fallen over 1am... etc etc
Simple stuff.
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Carrde
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:57:00 -
[378]
Originally by: Sabe
Originally by: Carrde
Originally by: Blodius Maximus Lets get this into perspective slightly.
For those who do work in IT related fields surely you must understand it's not merely a case of 'hire more staff' or 'buy more servers!'.
Somehow I get the impression you work in IT, and may I suggest not more staff or servers, better staff and servers instead? 
Ok, so in addition to the frankly scary uber RAMSAN box and the new 64bit hardware they are already trailing.. what else should they be doing exactly???
I can't comment on the efficiency of CCP's staff, but I can imagine it's not a case of drafting new people in over night. The code base for Eve must be massive - and bringing someone new onto the coding team means traning, superivison etc. etc. which can only take away from the productivity of the programmers (initially anyway).
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Cause CEO
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:57:00 -
[379]
1 <10 ms <10 ms 10 ms 2 71 ms 30 ms 30 ms 3 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms 4 220 ms 20 ms 20 ms ge1-0.core002.bmt.esat.net [193.95.140.2] 5 60 ms 40 ms 30 ms t2a2-p9-0-0.ie-dub2.eu.bt.net [166.49.198.137] 6 20 ms 40 ms 40 ms t2c2-ge6-0.ie-dub2.eu.bt.net [166.49.158.12] 7 40 ms 50 ms 50 ms t2c1-p3-1.nl-ams2.eu.bt.net [166.49.208.45] 8 40 ms 40 ms 50 ms t2a1-ge7-0.nl-ams2.eu.bt.net [166.49.200.49] 9 50 ms 40 ms 40 ms ixp1-ge1-1.nl-ams2.eu.bt.net [166.49.163.194] 10 40 ms 51 ms 40 ms 166-49-204-10.eu.bt.net [166.49.204.10] 11 50 ms 51 ms 50 ms linx-gw13.LON.GB.net.DTAG.DE [62.154.5.38] 12 160 ms 40 ms 51 ms 62.153.203.190 13 100 ms 50 ms 40 ms 157.157.62.10 14 * * * Request timed out.

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Silberhaar
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:57:00 -
[380]
this smells like a completely broken router, which messed the database up also.
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Sinari Galdrin
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:57:00 -
[381]
Originally by: SGXiphias Edited by: SGXiphias on 13/12/2005 23:56:59
Tracing route to 157.157.139.10 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1 2 9 ms 10 ms 28 ms 10.124.64.1 3 * * * Request timed out. 4 * * * Request timed out. 5 * * * Request timed out. 6 * * * Request timed out. 7 * * * Request timed out. 8 * * * Request timed out. 9 ^C C:\Documents and Settings\Chris>
That's a problem at your end...
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Dirknar
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:58:00 -
[382]
man still not up
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Dirknar
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:58:00 -
[383]
man still not up
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Canthus Prime
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:59:00 -
[384]
Have thrown all my toys out of my pram. Screamed and screamed and was sick.
Spat my dummy out a good 3 meters.
Who can spit their dummy further?
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Dirknar
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:59:00 -
[385]
anyone playing
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d'Mortaigne
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:59:00 -
[386]
Woman still not up...
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Ozzie Asrail
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:59:00 -
[387]
well i'm connected :)
Good tiem to run my indy load of hac's through 0.0 i guess. Catch me if you can get online ;)
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Sarafi
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Posted - 2005.12.13 23:59:00 -
[388]
/troll spam troll Arrrg!!!
Dammit my skill has finished and i still cant get on!
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anthonieak
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:00:00 -
[389]
Coming back up when, almost sleep time, this second evening, if RMR wants too patch. they must not have this sort of problems. And I think personally all major patches always gave a week problem after they where deplyed.So just for once do it right. Postpone And give us a real patch not want with bugs. And get tranquility online. because. these problem keep coming over over and over again as the flow of people starts coming especially with this trail pack which allow people too play every 2 weeks free over and over again. First we see kwik then we see kwek and after that comes kwak.
How do you think we players feel that have a paying account. ***********************************************
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Jaderpop
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:00:00 -
[390]
Yes still not up Im just hoping my apoc survived the lvl 4 mission i was working on when eve went bye bye. Mus continue ritual or eve will never be back.
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Neat
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:00:00 -
[391]
Originally by: SGXiphias Edited by: SGXiphias on 13/12/2005 23:56:59
Tracing route to 157.157.139.10 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1 2 9 ms 10 ms 28 ms 10.124.64.1 3 * * * Request timed out. 4 * * * Request timed out. 5 * * * Request timed out. 6 * * * Request timed out. 7 * * * Request timed out. 8 * * * Request timed out. 9 ^C C:\Documents and Settings\Chris>
Looks like your blocking ICMP packets on your firewall / router
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Sinari Galdrin
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:00:00 -
[392]
Originally by: Carrde Ok, so in addition to the frankly scary uber RAMSAN box and the new 64bit hardware they are already trailing.. what else should they be doing exactly???
And (IMHO) $12 million a year revenue isn't a large amount for a company with this high quality level of hardware..
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Aldades
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:01:00 -
[393]
Well, tech probs happen, though I wonder if CCP, as they admit to be partially responsible, will 'refund' players who lose ships etc now due to being in combat with npc's, blowing cans, etc etc etc.
I know that players from big cops just say 'chit happens' etc, but there ae players like myself who needed to do alot of effort to get a good ship and are in a small corp, like in my case after 2.5 months finally a prophecy with equipment, only to see a server crash in the ships 'test flight' so to say while engaged with some Sansha's. Would be a great service in my humble opinion to be honest.
Yeah well, just have to wait and pray, would be a bummer though as I would be broke in one go as about 30 mill goes down without a fight 
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BlackKnight
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:01:00 -
[394]
Still not up in the central US......
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Del369
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:01:00 -
[395]
Originally by: Darkireland Hm my friend can log on but i cant :(
yea we just had a guy in the uk get in on both acounts, in holland its no go a friend in the states is in and the rest in the states aren't in.
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d'Mortaigne
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:01:00 -
[396]
Im soo gonna start a reaaaaly long skill for the hollidays..
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Gonada
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:01:00 -
[397]
sheeshe you guys are whiney, relax itll either get fixed or ccp moves to mexico :)
-I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
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BloodSpoon
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:02:00 -
[398]
Originally by: Ozzie Asrail well i'm connected :)
Good tiem to run my indy load of hac's through 0.0 i guess. Catch me if you can get online ;)
RAWR!!!!!!!!!...........i don't like you
"ooooohh theres nothing wrong with killer robots from venus" |

Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:02:00 -
[399]
ok looks like this is the problem
Quote: 18 20 ms 19 ms 17 ms 157.157.62.10
I'm getting stuck at this one -------------------
Celestial Horizon: we go zerg on you |

PKlavins
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:02:00 -
[400]
Originally by: Ozzie Asrail well i'm connected :)
Good tiem to run my indy load of hac's through 0.0 i guess. Catch me if you can get online ;)
where are u?? italy, america, south pole...?? -----------------------------------------------
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Sky Hunter
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:02:00 -
[401]
Now thats really not funny imo.
Why limit connectivity and let several people get in? -=-
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TunafishCake
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:02:00 -
[402]
help help HELP!!!!!!!!
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David Darkstar
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:03:00 -
[403]
I can agree to CCP not wanting to let us change skills offline. What I find sad is that they don't implement a way of changing skills offline ONLY when the server is offline... Or if that's too hard to do, a code that autoskillswitches whenever the server is down... 
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Jaderpop
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:03:00 -
[404]
CCP please dont listen to the whiners and the nei sayers please keep RMR release date the same. Back to chanting
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Straego
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:03:00 -
[405]
eastern US still not up :(
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var'ulfur
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:03:00 -
[406]
south east usa still no go
talk is cheap the cost of action is enormus
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d'Mortaigne
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:04:00 -
[407]
Btw Im in Sweden... and not able to login
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themule
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:04:00 -
[408]
1 * * * Request timed out. 2 11 ms 17 ms 12 ms d226-4-185.home.cgocable.net [24.226.4.185] 3 12 ms 13 ms 13 ms cgowave-hala-core2.cgocable.net [24.226.0.166] 4 14 ms 23 ms 14 ms h66-59-168-61.gtconnect.net [66.59.168.61] 5 14 ms 13 ms 16 ms GE5-1.WANA-TOROON.IP.GROUPTELECOM.NET [66.59.191 .97] 6 16 ms 14 ms 18 ms GE3-0.PEERA-TOROON.IP.GROUPTELECOM.NET [66.59.19 1.6] 7 15 ms 21 ms 21 ms 62.159.61.253 8 101 ms 100 ms 100 ms linx-gw13.LON.GB.net.DTAG.DE [62.154.5.38] 9 100 ms 101 ms 100 ms 62.153.203.190 10 129 ms 111 ms 101 ms 157.157.62.10 11 * * * Request timed out. 12 * * * Request timed out.
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BlasterX
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:05:00 -
[409]
Originally by: Carrde
Originally by: Sabe
Originally by: Carrde
Originally by: Blodius Maximus Lets get this into perspective slightly.
For those who do work in IT related fields surely you must understand it's not merely a case of 'hire more staff' or 'buy more servers!'.
Somehow I get the impression you work in IT, and may I suggest not more staff or servers, better staff and servers instead? 
Ok, so in addition to the frankly scary uber RAMSAN box and the new 64bit hardware they are already trailing.. what else should they be doing exactly???
I can't comment on the efficiency of CCP's staff, but I can imagine it's not a case of drafting new people in over night. The code base for Eve must be massive - and bringing someone new onto the coding team means traning, superivison etc. etc. which can only take away from the productivity of the programmers (initially anyway).
Specialised staff, better process. Throwing more programmers at something just slows it down. First thing they teach you.
And if you don't know who i'm talking about, then get some experience in commercial programming.
--Blaster
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BloodSpoon
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:05:00 -
[410]
mid easter canada no go
"ooooohh theres nothing wrong with killer robots from venus" |
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skoops
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:05:00 -
[411]
Austria - no go 
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yanshi
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:05:00 -
[412]
umm... and i'm paying for what? wtf? can't they move that stupid ass server to another location? like say.... NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BOONIES in a god forgotten country? move it to US somewhere, or england. u know. where internet tends to work more reliably. i don't see US games going offline after i played 2 years of ENB. they had their problems too. but not like these. and that's AFTER a one hour downtime that occurd DAILY? this is bulls**t. |

ant cousins
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:06:00 -
[413]
london, uk still knackered
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Bhintf
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:06:00 -
[414]
germany no go
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Menelak Faf
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:06:00 -
[415]
Originally by: Grimpak ok looks like this is the problem
Quote: 18 20 ms 19 ms 17 ms 157.157.62.10
I'm getting stuck at this one
Me too.
SoonÖ is relative. |

Sky Hunter
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:06:00 -
[416]
Originally by: David Darkstar I can agree to CCP not wanting to let us change skills offline. What I find sad is that they don't implement a way of changing skills offline ONLY when the server is offline... Or if that's too hard to do, a code that autoskillswitches whenever the server is down... 
exactly. i try not to loose any training time, and now im sitting few hours into night waiting to change skill. a SPs are flyin right into the hole.... -=-
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Joachim Laurent
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:07:00 -
[417]
Still nothing here (Sweden) and now my skilltraining is completed.
Do I care enough about this game to stay awake (1 am here) to change skilltraining once the server comes up? Has there arisen any new info which enables you to give an approximate timeframe? If so, let us know.
To sleep or not to sleep, that is the question. ------------------------------------------------ Swedes rule, too bad I'm intaki. |

Minas
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:07:00 -
[418]
Southeast Uk still a no go....
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Mongo Smith
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:07:00 -
[419]
Seems theres still an issue with the router/switch/server after the 157.157.62.10 hop which must be part or very close of the CCP network:
18 17 ms 18 ms 18 ms 157.157.62.10 19 * * * Request timed out.
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radon8
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:07:00 -
[420]
Quote: CCP uses primarily Microsoft infrastructure and workstations.
source = http://www.ccpgames.com/jobs/default.asp
Guys, guys, guys.... sigh.... You really brought this on yourselves.
I'd strongly consider moving to an Oracle RAC on linux hardware.
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Vzae
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:07:00 -
[421]
First it says it will be back up in 2330. I thought, that is not so bad, I am only losing 15 minutes of training time which ended at 2315. Now it says Looks like problem solved, coming back up since 30 minutes ago and it is still not up!
Guess it is my luck that the server tend to crash when I am about to change skills lol.
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Bhintf
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:08:00 -
[422]
database solved,there is a network problem too,which is being investigated (MOTD)
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Canthus Prime
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:08:00 -
[423]
Right, that should have sorted it, put the kettle on and make a cuppa.
Wait . . . . .
*$ú(&%ú*6#!!!! Bugger, pass me the bigger hammer.
Night all
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Global Bullets
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:08:00 -
[424]
Well Im not to worried.. My skill's got 4 days.. I was in station, Sorting goods.. Big deal.. so today has a longer down time than most other days.. Yes I know I know it is rather bothersome for those who had short skills or just woke up and need there eve fix.. I dont blame you guys for being angry.. Just try to relax it will be back before you know it...
HOWEVER.. Lets do some math real fast.. 20,000 users x 14.95P month.. isnt that $3,588,000 a year?.. so I hope this means we will be seeing UBER 1337 equipment next year.. and the problems will be completely resolved.. I mean for a multi million dollar company why cant a service guy be there to simply hit the reset button?
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Mongo Smith
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:08:00 -
[425]
MOTD: Database problem solved, there is a network problem too, which is being investigated
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Rogue Echo2
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:08:00 -
[426]
heh, no fun...
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Shirer Aprenon
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:08:00 -
[427]
Originally by: yanshi umm... and i'm paying for what? wtf? can't they move that stupid ass server to another location? like say.... NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BOONIES in a god forgotten country? move it to US somewhere, or england. u know. where internet tends to work more reliably. i don't see US games going offline after i played 2 years of ENB. they had their problems too. but not like these. and that's AFTER a one hour downtime that occurd DAILY? this is bulls**t.
the servers are in london afaik ------------------ Dad (noun) - someone who's wallet now contains a picture where his money once was. |

Sinari Galdrin
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:08:00 -
[428]
Originally by: yanshi i don't see US games going offline
ROFL!!
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Vishnej
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:08:00 -
[429]
1 * * * Request timed 2 16 ms 16 ms 31 ms ge-4-16-ur01.r .136.25] 3 16 ms 15 ms 16 ms te-9-1-ur01.ch 8.217] 4 * 16 ms 15 ms te-9-1-ur01.mi 7.128.210] 5 15 ms 16 ms 16 ms te-9-1-ur01.be 8.165] 6 15 ms 16 ms 15 ms te-7-2-ar01.ca 87.128.174] 7 16 ms 31 ms 15 ms 68.87.16.165 8 15 ms 16 ms 16 ms 12.126.168.9 9 15 ms 16 ms 15 ms 62.156.139.21 10 109 ms 94 ms 94 ms linx-gw13.LON. 11 78 ms 78 ms 94 ms 62.153.203.190 12 94 ms 93 ms 79 ms 157.157.62.10 ---------------------------- T2 Destroyers: a proposal Requested Changes: An alphabet's worth |

woodman az
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:08:00 -
[430]
 Just got home from work....EVE's been down for 2 hours????????
why?????
Proud member of the 2
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dailyhazard
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:09:00 -
[431]
Originally by: yanshi umm... and i'm paying for what? wtf? can't they move that stupid ass server to another location? like say.... NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BOONIES in a god forgotten country? move it to US somewhere, or england. u know. where internet tends to work more reliably. i don't see US games going offline after i played 2 years of ENB. they had their problems too. but not like these. and that's AFTER a one hour downtime that occurd DAILY? this is bulls**t.
its in london docklands afaik... ------------------------------------------------ need a sig tbfh |

GiggioBR2
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:09:00 -
[432]
Brazil ... no 
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:09:00 -
[433]
oh yeah i'm in portugal btw.
getting stuck at the 157.157.62.10 thingy -------------------
Celestial Horizon: we go zerg on you |

Photec
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:09:00 -
[434]
New message (for me) in the MOTD window.
Database problem solved, there is a network problem toom which is being investigated.
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Rogue Echo2
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:09:00 -
[435]
Originally by: Mongo Smith MOTD: Database problem solved, there is a network problem too, which is being investigated
wow...0_o
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Darklandz
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:10:00 -
[436]
Edited by: Darklandz on 14/12/2005 00:13:17 made a trace ccp, check screenshot. all goes well until i hit the iceland network, then all drops dead ... EvE Trace
and i'm located in belgium
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Kaledon Brown
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:10:00 -
[437]
Still not able to connect here from Western Canada. Not going to bother doing traceroutes with so many people having problems. Curious though if CCP will give people an extra day on their subs?
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Karribu
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:10:00 -
[438]
Your Dummy II damages wall for 100 damage as it fly's at 4.3 meters.
yeah!!
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Lori Carlyle
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:10:00 -
[439]
Originally by: Bhintf database solved,there is a network problem too,which is being investigated (MOTD)
Yup funny how my ISP will get blamed...
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Sky Hunter
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:10:00 -
[440]
2 AM here....sad that i lost all mission loot as well...but i wouldnt care if not only not being loosing SPs atm... -=-
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Soltaria Gonte
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:10:00 -
[441]
Originally by: Straego eastern US still not up :(
*Hops on bandwagon.*
Same here... but since its off I'm doing other things anyway ;)
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Sveldt
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:10:00 -
[442]
Edited by: Sveldt on 14/12/2005 00:10:54
Originally by: yanshi i don't see US games going offline after i played 2 years of ENB.
Yea, 'cause the U.S. is better at everything. =P (read:sarcasm)
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Tancredi
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:10:00 -
[443]
Houston still dead in the water
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G8torSkull
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:11:00 -
[444]
arkansas dead in the water to
http://www.cox-internet.com/g8torskull/tcd_sigg8tor125.jpg
Maximum signature image dimensions are 400*120 pixels - Udat
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Jerrod Syn
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:11:00 -
[445]
Originally by: Ozzie Asrail well i'm connected :)
Good tiem to run my indy load of hac's through 0.0 i guess. Catch me if you can get online ;)
  
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Menelak Faf
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:11:00 -
[446]
Originally by: yanshi umm... and i'm paying for what? wtf? can't they move that stupid ass server to another location? like say.... NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BOONIES in a god forgotten country? move it to US somewhere, or england. u know. where internet tends to work more reliably. i don't see US games going offline after i played 2 years of ENB. they had their problems too. but not like these. and that's AFTER a one hour downtime that occurd DAILY? this is bulls**t.
Have you ever played World of Warcraft? Everquest 2? No?
SoonÖ is relative. |

Corisar
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:12:00 -
[447]
"Cold War Edition - Database problem solved, there is a network problem too, which is being investigated."
Talk about snowballing... this is almost funny.... almost.
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radon8
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:12:00 -
[448]
Originally by: Global Bullets
HOWEVER.. Lets do some math real fast.. 20,000 users x 14.95P month.. isnt that $3,588,000 a year?.. so I hope this means we will be seeing UBER 1337 equipment next year.. and the problems will be completely resolved.. I mean for a multi million dollar company why cant a service guy be there to simply hit the reset button?
Yeah, but remember that they probably have a $3,000,000 ISP bill each year for that amount of upload! (Pay me the $588,000 and I'll fix it for you)
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Zeppi
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:12:00 -
[449]
Ok heres my 2 cents/pounds/dollars/euros/dinars...on the subject why the heck is the server down yet again.now like all good people ive been looking at the internet traffic around the Uk and iceland region where the login servers and game servers reside...all i know is there is a Major Issue possibly Result from the Hemel hemstead Refinery explosion yesterday possibly not but i know a huge amount of Server companys are in the local area and with watford the Main internet highway between Europe and iceland/USA being Disrupted maybe the cause of the bad network traffic also the fact that my client on a different game has started Rerouting through western Australia to get to usa....i currently am in london UK.this and the obvious fact there 64 bit servers trying to Work on the same proxy as 32bit doesnt help matters when it comes to configuration.....last night a Major Backbone providor went down in europe and Everyone felt that .....perhaps the same has happend tonight.sit back relax, perhaps its beyond CCP's control and Is just becuase of some natural disaster or event...relax Read a book watch a dvd , have fun with the missus..etc etc....goto bed    
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Cha's mate
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:13:00 -
[450]
We know CCP will cover all we loss in game that they are able to. As for guy's going on about I pay to play this so what. We all do and in end will carry on playing the game don't matter how many time EVE go down. We all not happy but in end have to put up with it. If someone say's that's it I not paying to play EVE any more, then it be more likely them who dont say a word on here that will go. Do CCP worry if some leave game no because they got a lot more to offer and will get even more new member's. So the bull of it is don't go on about I am not paying to play EVE any more when you know you will. EVE a good game and one that will get better as time go on and with that problems, every game as it's problems.
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Golerre Evraun
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:13:00 -
[451]
To whomever finds my ship drifting in space after I leave for work in 1 minute I ask this, as you loot my debris please don't shoot the pod...
... gee she really was a pretty ship.
sigh.
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McMint
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:13:00 -
[452]
Sheesh, now ther's a network problem!!!! What next!
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Skillshot
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:13:00 -
[453]
yup Cali is dead as well, i loged in and droped after 15 sec
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skoops
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:13:00 -
[454]
Originally by: McMint Sheesh, now ther's a network problem!!!! What next!
Next problem will be the proxy servers crushing under heavy load 
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Crux Australis
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:14:00 -
[455]
Originally by: d'Mortaigne New MOTD: Stop trying to login u homo and go to bed

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d'Mortaigne
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:14:00 -
[456]
New MOTD: Stop trying to login u homo and go to bed
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Morsx
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:14:00 -
[457]
B.C. Canada No go
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31i73
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:15:00 -
[458]
According to motd, they have now realized, that they have network issues too.
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Bob Niac
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:15:00 -
[459]
Um why is SiSi coming online first?
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DivineShadowLexx
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:15:00 -
[460]
Can we get a free day of time added to our month of pay?
they usto do that on my last game when servers were down..
3x skill gain speed for 2 days?
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Joe Tracker
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:15:00 -
[461]
"la la la, la la la, la la . . . la la la" -babe the pig
---------------------------------- Ha! You thought I would put something here, didn't you! |

Miz Cenuij
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:15:00 -
[462]
The IP that has 100% packet loss has been idenified already on the thread underneath this one, lets hope it doesnt take a week again for CCP to decide to bridge it..
"Men are going to die..
and im going to kill them". |

Sinari Galdrin
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:15:00 -
[463]
Originally by: Lori Carlyle
Originally by: Bhintf database solved,there is a network problem too,which is being investigated (MOTD)
Yup funny how my ISP will get blamed...
I doubt it - from the trace routes posted here, it's something at CCP's end. I suspect a bust router, loose cable, broken switch etc.
They probably have redundant equipment, but there's always a way that something can break even with that in place - eg dual simultaneous failures, or partial failures which stop something realising things aren't working properly etc.
There's a saying - 'poo happens' - I'm sure CCP would rather it didn't, but it does occasionally - and always at a time when it's inconvenient for customers and even more inconvenient for staff, in the middle of the night.
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:15:00 -
[464]
Originally by: yanshi umm... and i'm paying for what? wtf? can't they move that stupid ass server to another location? like say.... NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BOONIES in a god forgotten country? move it to US somewhere, or england. u know. where internet tends to work more reliably. i don't see US games going offline after i played 2 years of ENB. they had their problems too. but not like these. and that's AFTER a one hour downtime that occurd DAILY? this is bulls**t.
the servers are in London smartguy
Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Trepkos
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:15:00 -
[465]
Edited by: Trepkos on 14/12/2005 00:15:56 Ms. Down 
Atleast there hasnt been any stupid hamster jokes this time around. --------
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Alabaster Plate
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:16:00 -
[466]
Originally by: Global Bullets Well Im not to worried.. My skill's got 4 days.. I was in station, Sorting goods.. Big deal.. so today has a longer down time than most other days.. Yes I know I know it is rather bothersome for those who had short skills or just woke up and need there eve fix.. I dont blame you guys for being angry.. Just try to relax it will be back before you know it...
HOWEVER.. Lets do some math real fast.. 20,000 users x 14.95P month.. isnt that $3,588,000 a year?.. so I hope this means we will be seeing UBER 1337 equipment next year.. and the problems will be completely resolved.. I mean for a multi million dollar company why cant a service guy be there to simply hit the reset button?
80k SUBSCRIBERS at 14.95 per month = $14 mil and a bit
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Jailey Rocks
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:16:00 -
[467]
will we lose skill points ? god i hope not 
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KeenDevil
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:16:00 -
[468]
lol
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Mal Renolds
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:16:00 -
[469]
Ok now I sadly took a lil skill and I cannot manage to log on this really bites
If we petition can we get the ammount of hours added to a long skill?
I mean this isnt SOE you guys really read the petitions and dont just delete them
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Obby
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:16:00 -
[470]
Can see the test server starting up, but can't see Tranquility 
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Scharde Alton
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:16:00 -
[471]
Looks like traceroutes are dying at Iceland Telecom's border router with Deutsche Telecom, my guess is that IT's network infrastructure is experiencing an outage.
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BlackKnight
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:17:00 -
[472]
lmao. You gotta lvoe these people. First I get a message saying "problem is solved, coming back up...". The minutes lare the message is "Database problem solved, there is a network problem too, which is being investigated..."
Anyone want to make a wager that we will yet run into another problem?
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HaulerBitch
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:17:00 -
[473]
Come on ppl, stop complaining. There are 8395 eve hours in a year, u lose maybe 40 ( high estimate) from unforseeable server oputages and stuff. Is it really worth introducing potential lags or taking time away from devs for offline skill training or nething else. CCP love us and are probably just as unhappy as we are wjhen the server breaks. Lets give em some slace eh?
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K Raz
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:17:00 -
[474]
Same story from denmark:
Request timing out at 157.157.62.10 
Whatever is causing it, plz nerf it ASAP
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Shaktah
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:17:00 -
[475]
Some of you guys need to get a grip. OMG - there's some downtime, we're all gonna die!!! Nevermind that we get all our patches/upgrades for free instead of paying $30-$40 bucks a whack for buggy new content that sux when it hits the street. Or that we're not constantly banging our heads against the closed-end constraints of some mentally challenged team of mega-corp devs. Let's all run in circles and scream "gimmie back my 32 cents for the downtime or I'm gonna tell my mommy!!!" Take it from a long-term refugee from EQ... you don't know how bloody well off you are.
At least it gives me something fun to read til the game is back up LOL.
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Smooch
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:17:00 -
[476]
OMg i know wot it is, its them bloody hampsters again 
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Tommy TenKreds
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:17:00 -
[477]
Peak Concurrent Downtime barrier broken
"CCP is constantly at work with strengthening the hardware and software foundations of EVE Online to allow it to grow even more."
 
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VinLieger
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:17:00 -
[478]
Originally by: Obby Can see the test server starting up, but can't see Tranquility 
me too and thats a difference to 5 minutes ago. heres hoping
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VossKarr
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:17:00 -
[479]
Originally by: Alabaster Plate
Originally by: Global Bullets Well Im not to worried.. My skill's got 4 days.. I was in station, Sorting goods.. Big deal.. so today has a longer down time than most other days.. Yes I know I know it is rather bothersome for those who had short skills or just woke up and need there eve fix.. I dont blame you guys for being angry.. Just try to relax it will be back before you know it...
HOWEVER.. Lets do some math real fast.. 20,000 users x 14.95P month.. isnt that $3,588,000 a year?.. so I hope this means we will be seeing UBER 1337 equipment next year.. and the problems will be completely resolved.. I mean for a multi million dollar company why cant a service guy be there to simply hit the reset button?
80k SUBSCRIBERS at 14.95 per month = $14 mil and a bit
1.196 mil actually
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Asiom Matter
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:18:00 -
[480]
wel the 157.157.62.10 IP is in the posesion of Iceland Telecom according to ripe.net for waht its worth. If you are so inclined you could drop them an email 
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Balban Cain
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:18:00 -
[481]
Originally by: BlackKnight lmao. You gotta lvoe these people. First I get a message saying "problem is solved, coming back up...". The minutes lare the message is "Database problem solved, there is a network problem too, which is being investigated..."
Anyone want to make a wager that we will yet run into another problem?
Locust attecking server
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lles
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:18:00 -
[482]
Here in Holland, still no go, CCP cant give me this reason to go to sleep.
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Lucas Garin
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:18:00 -
[483]
Since so many here seem to not remember, or more likely, never read the EULA, (that big long mess of paragraphs that you agreed to when you signed up to play EVE), I will post the pertinent passages here for you to review.
----- 12. NO WARRANTIES The Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the System and playing the Game.
There is no warranty against interference with your enjoyment of the Game. CCP does not warrant that the operation of the System or your access to the System, or that your use of the Software, will be uninterrupted or error-free, nor that the System or Software will be compatible with your hardware and software.
While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures.
13. DISCLAIMER OF DAMAGES In no event shall CCP, its affiliates, licensors or suppliers be liable to you or to any third party for any special, indirect, incidental, consequential, punitive or exemplary damages (including without limitation, lost profits or lost data), arising out of or in connection with your Account, the System, Software, Game, Game Content, User Content, EULA, or any other services or materials provided in connection therewith, whether based on warranty, contract, tort or any other legal theory, and whether or not CCP is advised of the possibility of such damages, and even if any stated remedy fails of its essential purpose.
15. INDEMNITY You shall defend, indemnify and hold harmless CCP and its affiliates, licensors and suppliers, and their respective employees, contractors, officers and directors, from any and all claims, loss, damages and demands, including reasonable attorneys' fees, arising out of: (i) your use or misuse of the Software; (ii) your access to the System; (iii) any activities conducted through your Account (whether by you or another person); and (iv) your playing of the Game.
----- I other words, STFU and wait for the server to come back online. Go have a latte, or a stiff drink, read a book, watch TV, or go get frisky with your girl. What's that? It's been how long? I think you owe it to her. 
Relax people! 
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Ozzie Asrail
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:18:00 -
[484]
Originally by: Ozzie Asrail well i'm connected :)
Good tiem to run my indy load of hac's through 0.0 i guess. Catch me if you can get online ;)
Well i was connected, server going down in 5 for a reboot 
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d'Mortaigne
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:19:00 -
[485]
This one time, at downtime...
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Neat
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:19:00 -
[486]
You would have issues too with 18,000 connections hitting you every 10 seconds as people hammer the login button :)
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RaistlinSOL
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:19:00 -
[487]
Edited by: RaistlinSOL on 14/12/2005 00:21:39 (double post) Raistlin
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Selak Zorander
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:19:00 -
[488]
Originally by: Obby Can see the test server starting up, but can't see Tranquility 
Thats because the test server is in Iceland and tranquility is in England.
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Joe Tracker
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:20:00 -
[489]
Originally by: Shaktah OMG - there's some downtime, we're all gonna die!!!
At least it gives me something fun to read til the game is back up LOL.
ROTF!!!!
Yep, this is quite entertaining. *** "Its no big deal. I just cant play EVE right now. I mean...I dont have to play EVE. I could do something else. I could go watch a DVD. Is there a DVD about playing EVE?" -Colton |

Teutonis
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:20:00 -
[490]
Edited by: Teutonis on 14/12/2005 00:22:17 Northeast USA no go.... My second day with the game, too. just how often is this going to happen?
Also, the message on the MOTD switched to "Database problem solved, there is a network problem too which is being investigated"
edit: whoops, didn't see this was already mentioned. |
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RaistlinSOL
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:21:00 -
[491]
Originally by: Atyka
Originally by: ELaine Doi
errr - Ace Dionysus - if this was a freebie Counterstrike server then yes, but I beg to differ , I work for a big blue IT company ( the biggest in the world actually ) & I can tell you that if you drop a customer server , whether it is SEIBEL, SAP, exchange, oracle , or EVE whatever - the sh1t hits the fan & the customer gets financial recompens - no question.
This is NOT a "oh well it's only a game" argument.
If there are possible upgrades for performance or the apps, then they should be fully load tested on the test/dev servers beforehand, not on the prod setup.
If the game has a maximum capacity of users that can safely use it, then it should be capped until it can be safely expanded.
I'm a software engineer and a unix techy, so I understand what must be frantically going on in the background - but there is little excuse for dropping a service to paying customers - full stop.
Hi Elaine Doi, since you are in the party, you know that it all depends on the SLA (Service Level Aggrement) between the Service provider and the customer.
Unfortunately, this is true for the service providers but the contract CCP has with the player, the EULA, is much more "loose" and there is no availability commitment at that level.
BTW, I am working for the other number one IT company in the world (the one with two letters) in a similar dept. as you :)
I myself work in managed services for a 2 letter global company (the 2 letters work out to 14 letters if expanded)
Its all about the SLA - as we the customers do not have a SLA (or even a SLO) then we are pretty much SOL for any compensation.
As we are are only bound by the EULA we can't say 'give me x for the downtime. Especially by this being in the EULA:
Originally by: CCP EULA
While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures.
Trust me, by supporting client servers (various platforms) you end up knowing how to read the fine print to get things either out of the client, or at least, not having to pay the client back.
So in the end, if the server crash's, or goes down, you have 2 options: 1) Accept the fact CCP does do their best to keep the system available for all pretty much most of the time - (normal DT of course) and works damn hard to get it running again pretty damn fast - dispite all the complaining on here. or, 2) You can leave - but good luck finding another MMO this size, complexity, that actually will give 2 cents about your thoughts and cares (unlike CCP)
Good Job CCP - please though get eve up, so these nay-sayers can get off the forums. {flame on guys}
oh - Atyka - if your in the same company ingame me when its up. |

bldyannoyed
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:22:00 -
[492]
Oh come on. There is no conspiracy, u dont need to check the ISP's of the timeouts on the eve servers. They aint trying to con is. ITS FU**ED. It'll get fixed like it always does. Chill already.
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Capsicum
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:22:00 -
[493]
Originally by: Teutonis Northeast USA no go.... My second day with the game, too. just how often is this going to happen?
Also, the message on the MOTD switched to "Database problem solved, there is a network problem too which is being investigated"
Welcome to EVE, I can assure you that this kind of problem is very rare and as of yet, can't be specifically attributed to CCP either - so don't get to dispondent!
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Colton
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:22:00 -
[494]
Its no big deal. I just cant play EVE right now. I mean...I dont have to play EVE. I could do something else. Normally I would be playing EVE right now, but I cant. I sure would like to play EVE. I hope my Raven survives. I sure would like to play EVE. I could go watch a DVD. Is there a DVD about playing EVE? Gee, I sure would like to play EVE. Wouldnt you like to play EVE? Must...play....EVE! Why the hell cant I play EVE? What the blazes is wrong over there on the other side of the Atlantic? I WANT TO PLAY EVE! Sure, I dont NEED to play EVE. I can quit anytime. I can do without EVE for a little while. GIVE ME MY EVE DAMMIT!!!!
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Joe Tracker
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:22:00 -
[495]
Originally by: Neat You would have issues too with 18,000 connections hitting you every 10 seconds as people hammer the login button :)
Fess up, who IS accually doing this??? lol maby if we all click at once . . . something will happen. lol lol *** "Its no big deal. I just cant play EVE right now. I mean...I dont have to play EVE. I could do something else. I could go watch a DVD. Is there a DVD about playing EVE?" -Colton |

lomz
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:22:00 -
[496]
California no go 
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Trepkos
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:22:00 -
[497]
Originally by: Teutonis Northeast USA no go.... My second day with the game, too. just how often is this going to happen?
Also, the message on the MOTD switched to "Database problem solved, there is a network problem too which is being investigated"
Not much so dont be worried. --------
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TunafishCake
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:22:00 -
[498]
Why dont we all sing a happy song, come by yah me lord come by yah.
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Corisar
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:23:00 -
[499]
Originally by: Trepkos Edited by: Trepkos on 14/12/2005 00:15:56 Ms. Down 
Atleast there hasnt been any stupid hamster jokes this time around.
Read the first few pages of the thread :P
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Elriond
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:23:00 -
[500]
Originally by: RaistlinSOL Edited by: RaistlinSOL on 14/12/2005 00:21:39 (double post)
awesome 
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Merenwen
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:23:00 -
[501]
Originally by: Sveldt Edited by: Sveldt on 14/12/2005 00:10:54
Originally by: yanshi i don't see US games going offline after i played 2 years of ENB.
Yea, 'cause the U.S. is better at everything. =P (read:sarcasm)
Accually he's got a point there, In my excperience US games don't go dead due to network issues, never did in Lineage2 and never in E&B either. If they do then it's server related, which is easier to fix :)
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d'Mortaigne
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:24:00 -
[502]
How much would it cost to dig a cable to england and skip all this internet-bs?
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Instagib
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:24:00 -
[503]
Tracing route to 157.157.139.10 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 7 ms 18 ms 8 ms anax3.isholf.is [157.157.255.113] 2 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms jenna-xdsl-gw.isholf.is [157.157.59.129] 3 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms backbone-muli-gw.isholf.is [157.157.255.149] 4 * * * Request timed out.
Looks like last hop issues Sfminn (e. Iceland Telecom), also my ISP.. meh
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Karn Caranthyr
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:24:00 -
[504]
off topic, but is anyone else missing character portraits on forums now?
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Serina Seduia
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:24:00 -
[505]
Ahh...I'm in!!!
Btw, these empty ships flying around. Do you mind if I take those? Or at least this shiny dreadnaught? 
"Be great in act, as you have been in thought." -Gander Or'Latal |

Vidur
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:24:00 -
[506]
Arrrgh,
get a new network equipment vendor, your current one sucks....
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Zeppi
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:24:00 -
[507]
All thosw whining about downtime....shutup ive played EVERY onlinegame going.since 1995.....downtime happens and sometimes its just tough luck.Be glad they dont do a Rollback like all the Other RPG's out when this happens.would you like 6 hours of roleback time for your skills? ....EQ does it , DOAC does it, WoW does it, AC does it , UO does it....the list s endless and for the money You pay....go do the Real maths like TAX, Salerys, Server Costs, ISP costs , Network Costs , Engineer Costs...so what thedy have a turnover of 14mil a year i bet they are lucky to see 1 mil of that go into the reserve funds of the company.and yes i am being serious ..got any idea how much it costs to ship stuff like 80 servers from USA to iceland? and then install them..last time i looked the ramsan 400 server cost near on $500,000 after installation....
So stop whining about refunds and the skills lost..you guys have it soo easy im actually glad to keep paying for subscription even if the game goes down for a month..least i know my money is going into something worthwhile, and not some company director sports car like in sony...
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Garasin Loather
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:25:00 -
[508]
Jeez Guys Guys go to bed in ya little cabbin in the back of your ship and everything will be alrigh tommorrow, maybe if u give ccp a chance things might get better. rest in peace and live long and Prosper big V and good luck ya gona need it may the force be with u and good night x x to boldy no were gone before ect. bye 
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Joe Tracker
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:25:00 -
[509]
Originally by: Colton Its no big deal. I just cant play EVE right now. I mean...I dont have to play EVE. I could do something else. Normally I would be playing EVE right now, but I cant. I sure would like to play EVE. I hope my Raven survives. I sure would like to play EVE. I could go watch a DVD. Is there a DVD about playing EVE? Gee, I sure would like to play EVE. Wouldnt you like to play EVE? Must...play....EVE! Why the hell cant I play EVE? What the blazes is wrong over there on the other side of the Atlantic? I WANT TO PLAY EVE! Sure, I dont NEED to play EVE. I can quit anytime. I can do without EVE for a little while. GIVE ME MY EVE DAMMIT!!!!
Well, i got a real good laugh out of this . . . lol *** "Its no big deal. I just cant play EVE right now. I mean...I dont have to play EVE. I could do something else. I could go watch a DVD. Is there a DVD about playing EVE?" -Colton |

Sinari Galdrin
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:25:00 -
[510]
Originally by: Teutonis Edited by: Teutonis on 14/12/2005 00:22:17 Northeast USA no go.... My second day with the game, too. just how often is this going to happen?
Not that often really - despite the moans.
I've been playing for about a month, and there have been a couple of short 'extensions' to the daily DT, and this one problem. (there may have been others but I haven't noticed them).
When I've played other games like EQ2 there were unscheduled downtimes for over a day, (and they charged you for content upgrades as well!) Eve is good in comparison.
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Alabaster Plate
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:26:00 -
[511]
Originally by: Zeppi All thosw whining about downtime....shutup ive played EVERY onlinegame going.since 1995.....downtime happens and sometimes its just tough luck.Be glad they dont do a Rollback like all the Other RPG's out when this happens.would you like 6 hours of roleback time for your skills? ....EQ does it , DOAC does it, WoW does it, AC does it , UO does it....the list s endless and for the money You pay....go do the Real maths like TAX, Salerys, Server Costs, ISP costs , Network Costs , Engineer Costs...so what thedy have a turnover of 14mil a year i bet they are lucky to see 1 mil of that go into the reserve funds of the company.and yes i am being serious ..got any idea how much it costs to ship stuff like 80 servers from USA to iceland? and then install them..last time i looked the ramsan 400 server cost near on $500,000 after installation....
So stop whining about refunds and the skills lost..you guys have it soo easy im actually glad to keep paying for subscription even if the game goes down for a month..least i know my money is going into something worthwhile, and not some company director sports car like in sony...
Mate, stop whining about people whining - it's not constructive is it?
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JamesTalon
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:27:00 -
[512]
w00t! Finally! I'm in Ontario Canada, and it is UP for me
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Karn Caranthyr
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:27:00 -
[513]
backup ^^ and within 9 mins of skill change. weee, nice timing.
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Mongo Smith
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:27:00 -
[514]
Back up!
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paulcdb
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:27:00 -
[515]
can i come down to london and just connect to the network there? :)
Gees people can't have winge, anyone would think if was real money, real ships, real life... it's a game!! sheesh go outside, take some deep breaths, count to 10, have a coffee then come back... computers crash, things happen... no need to throw a tantrum.
Anyone want a drink? lol
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skoops
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:27:00 -
[516]
Austria - GO GO GO - I'm in ;)
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Ace Dionysus
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:28:00 -
[517]
central US is in.
Status OK. 941 players
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Balban Cain
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:28:00 -
[518]
\o/ yay i am in, now i can change me skill and go to bed
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BloodSpoon
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:28:00 -
[519]
Originally by: JamesTalon w00t! Finally! I'm in Ontario Canada, and it is UP for me
/signed
"ooooohh theres nothing wrong with killer robots from venus" |

FireflyX1
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:28:00 -
[520]
im in :)
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LeonZh
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:28:00 -
[521]
Good to go from China!
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Siigari Kitawa
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:28:00 -
[522]
Originally by: Capsicum
Originally by: Teutonis Northeast USA no go.... My second day with the game, too. just how often is this going to happen?
Also, the message on the MOTD switched to "Database problem solved, there is a network problem too which is being investigated"
Welcome to EVE, I can assure you that this kind of problem is very rare and as of yet, can't be specifically attributed to CCP either - so don't get to dispondent!
/me gives Capsicum a listless look
YAY Eve is up! ____ Click me
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Sinari Galdrin
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:28:00 -
[523]
Originally by: Merenwen
Originally by: Sveldt Edited by: Sveldt on 14/12/2005 00:10:54
Originally by: yanshi i don't see US games going offline after i played 2 years of ENB.
Yea, 'cause the U.S. is better at everything. =P (read:sarcasm)
Accually he's got a point there, In my excperience US games don't go dead due to network issues, never did in Lineage2 and never in E&B either. If they do then it's server related, which is easier to fix :)
No, they just go offline for a day, then decide to rollback the database by a few more days, just for fun, then go offline for another day - much better really than having a couple of hours downtime for a network problem, isn't it...
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VinLieger
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:28:00 -
[524]
Ireland im in woohoo
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Elriond
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:29:00 -
[525]
back up!! woot. thanks ccp!
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Garasin Loather
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:29:00 -
[526]
dont care, just giving every one a hint it wont be online for a while and its like late and erm there are things going ons in the back ground at the company where ever it is. or i cant be arsed to be flamed
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Neat
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:29:00 -
[527]
Please dont mail your ISP's complaining, its not their fault.. I dont want to see any E-mail in my inbox tomorrow :)
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Corisar
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:30:00 -
[528]
Edited by: Corisar on 14/12/2005 00:32:30 North american update.. status ok, 920 players online
No rollback aparent... breathe a sigh of reliefe ppl, al will be well.
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David Darkstar
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:30:00 -
[529]
Ok, I'm in. Nova Scotia, Canada, in case anyone's wondering.
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Joe Tracker
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:30:00 -
[530]
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee *** "Its no big deal. I just cant play EVE right now. I mean...I dont have to play EVE. I could do something else. I could go watch a DVD. Is there a DVD about playing EVE?" -Colton |
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MiKKa
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:30:00 -
[531]
I'm in too :) 2005.12.14 00:29:29notifySetting course to docking perimeter
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Onubis
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:30:00 -
[532]
mmmm eve
_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
Training Sig Cloaking to LVL 5
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Retsudo Itto
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:30:00 -
[533]
Ahh well have to wait a little longer to make my Tempest, Still all good things come to those that wait. Soon we'll all be back on and this will fade quietly in to the background. Until the next problem of course when it will get hauled back out in to the light n paraded around of course. EVE will go on so will we just gotta wait a bit . so sit back turn on the radio put on a cd watch a movie n relax chill. Nothing else to do till then 
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ELaine Doi
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:31:00 -
[534]
just to confuse everyone I've been logged in since 23:30 ish playing quite happly
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Garasin Loather
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:32:00 -
[535]
Er great back on, well im still gona sleep in the cabin at the back and work in the factory tommorrow i hope i dont miss the transporter ship
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Instagib
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:32:00 -
[536]
Tracing route to 157.157.139.10 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 9 ms 8 ms 9 ms anax3.isholf.is [157.157.255.113] 2 8 ms 12 ms 8 ms jenna-xdsl-gw.isholf.is [157.157.59.129] 3 8 ms 11 ms 8 ms backbone-muli-gw.isholf.is [157.157.255.149] 4 49 ms 48 ms 49 ms ccp-Earth001.simnet.is [157.157.139.253] 5 53 ms 49 ms 52 ms 157.157.139.10
Trace complete.
\o/
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Skel Argos
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:32:00 -
[537]
http://www.internettrafficreport.com/europe.htm
There is a main backbone outage in the UK.
Router: core2-pos13-3.ilford.ukcore.bt.net (62.6.196.222)
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Sinari Galdrin
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:33:00 -
[538]
Originally by: Skel Argos http://www.internettrafficreport.com/europe.htm
There is a main backbone outage in the UK.
Router: core2-pos13-3.ilford.ukcore.bt.net (62.6.196.222)
Ah... BT...
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:33:00 -
[539]
tell youe local ISP to pull their socks up and increase connectiveness and bandwidth
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Teutonis
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:33:00 -
[540]
ok, back in, exactly where I left off. Northeast USA for those keeping track.
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PKlavins
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:34:00 -
[541]
HALLELUJAH   
im back on and my apoc's fine    -----------------------------------------------
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Crimson Smith
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:35:00 -
[542]
Quick trace route I did from visual route tells me that:
Report for 157.157.139.10
Analysis: IP packets are being lost past network "ICEnet" at hop 9. The route has changed so the next network at hop 10 is unknown.
(I'm in the south of England) Gin is my co-pilot.
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eleuthereus
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Posted - 2005.12.14 00:44:00 -
[543]
kicked in Southern Calif. USA - for monitors of problem. Messages received..
- connection to server lost - no proxy online - node shut down
then came back up at 23:36. Now, as per expected, back down with all others.
eleu
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kieron

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Posted - 2005.12.14 01:08:00 -
[544]
The database issue that took Tranquility down was a database crash resulting after one of the hard drives ran out of disk space. In the process, one of the servers started erroring, resulting in the crash.
We are still investigating the network connectivity issues that continue to plague many of our players.
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online
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Gronslick
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Posted - 2005.12.14 01:12:00 -
[545]
I lost drones due to this little DT, ATM iam depending alot on these drones now iam totally screwed... either back to empire to get new 1's will tkae atleast 5 hours to try and get past all the camps or get killed rearming at a nmy occupid system... also 5 hours in scouting I assume.... FFS!
/rant over!
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Pinstripe Giamatti
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Posted - 2005.12.14 01:52:00 -
[546]
Prior venting aside, I am back in and my blood pressure is returning to normal.
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Headshoot
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:02:00 -
[547]
Full cluster (7000),
Now what???????
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BlackKnight
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:03:00 -
[548]
I'm on again, but:
1) Game locks up periodically 2) I am getting disconnects 3) Now I cannot get back on (Cluster Full)
And, my ship just hanging out in space now.
Sheesh......
Please, fix this?
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Sat Thu
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:06:00 -
[549]
Full Cluster (8000) error for me.
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grendels arm
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:09:00 -
[550]
Edited by: grendels arm on 14/12/2005 02:09:47 "after one of the hard drives ran out of disk space"
Someone wasn't monitoring the server like they were supposed to.
I get the same cluster 7000 message.
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Moonminer
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:10:00 -
[551]
get me back on now!!! my ship is assaulting a hostile POS and stuck outside and i can't get back on the get it out FFS fix this now remove the damn cluster max
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Mystro Famacon
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:10:00 -
[552]
I am getting a Full Cluster (7000) on mine.. whats up?
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BlackKnight
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:11:00 -
[553]
Question: How many people with the "Full Cluster" error are US players? I am...US central here.
TIA.
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Amphemina
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:12:00 -
[554]
Same.
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Cormallen
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:12:00 -
[555]
Same full cluster 7000 message. US west here
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:12:00 -
[556]
not just US in australia here and its 7000.
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Ascendant Avatar
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:13:00 -
[557]
Full Cluster (7000) in MST Canada. |

BlackKnight
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:13:00 -
[558]
Sorry to hear that sonofollo.....
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Tinarto Anduvian
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:13:00 -
[559]
Edited by: Tinarto Anduvian on 14/12/2005 02:13:10 It reads like the player cap got moved down to 7k (oops?). But maybe I'm wrong. Getting it in FL (US East) here.
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BlackKnight
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:14:00 -
[560]
Interesting...the responses tend to be East (of the UK and the EU)
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Constantinee
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:14:00 -
[561]
im us east i get the 7000 as well
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Mystro Famacon
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:14:00 -
[562]
Eastern Ontario (Canada) Here.. They must be limiting connections to fix the HardSpace Problems. Think they need another one of those Solid State Disks but bigger. :P

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Niaski Zalani
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:14:00 -
[563]
Originally by: Ascendant Avatar Full Cluster (7000) in MST Canada.
Same here... west coast US.
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Ragnar6
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:15:00 -
[564]
us west coast here with the full cluster (7000) error.
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BlackKnight
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:16:00 -
[565]
A response from a moderator or CCP would be really good about now...other than, we're looking into it...
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InfernalRage
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:16:00 -
[566]
Just boot the 6,500 or so macro miners and we'll be right on 
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Terpsichoria
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:17:00 -
[567]
Full cluster in Southern Ontario.
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Zaeta Ra
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:17:00 -
[568]
Maybe the server techs were too busy watching Miss Iceland when these problems were shaping up...  |

BlackKnight
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:19:00 -
[569]
I guess I have learned a valuable lesson here.... NEVER pay your account to CCP three months in advance. 
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Zaeta Ra
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:19:00 -
[570]
Originally by: BlackKnight I guess I have learned a valuable lesson here.... NEVER pay your account to CCP three months in advance. 
What's funny is I've played since 2003 and never purchased in advanced, and I regret it... lol |
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BlackKnight
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:20:00 -
[571]
Heheh....that's a good thought Niaski. But, they'd get you with the scheduled DT.
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Kith Kanann
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:20:00 -
[572]
Full cluster (7000) southern UK.
Was in the game then got booted.
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Niaski Zalani
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:20:00 -
[573]
Originally by: BlackKnight I guess I have learned a valuable lesson here.... NEVER pay your account to CCP three months in advance. 
Either that or Never Log Out.. so you can be one of the lucky 7,000 
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Terpsichoria
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:21:00 -
[574]
I'm kicking myself... my ship was stuck in a bunch of lag and in the past if I exited and logged right back in it un-stuck me. So I exited. And couldn't log back in. I should have just stuck it out. :P
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BlackKnight
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:22:00 -
[575]
Hey CCP!...How about changing that "Back Up!" MOTD to...."Well, some of you can play the game!"
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Crux Australis
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:22:00 -
[576]
Originally by: BlackKnight I'm on again, but:
1) Game locks up periodically 2) I am getting disconnects 3) Now I cannot get back on (Cluster Full)
Same here, I'll just add that the random disconnections have been plaguing me for the last month... I thought that it could have been my ISP, but I have been trying other connections and the problem is always there.
More, I have been 2-boxing the last 3 nights to move some stuff: one client stays connected, the other drops every 2-3 mins, I reconnect the one which dropped and the other one disconnects, ad nauseam, so I guess that it is not my ISP...
More, I experience these connectivity problems just with EVE, my internet connection has no problems doing any other kind of stuff.
Any suggestions? Any solutions?
(I have already cleaned cache/house/dog, reinstalled, made voodoo rites, etc.)
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Mark Harrison
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:22:00 -
[577]
Edited by: Mark Harrison on 14/12/2005 02:22:52
Originally by: monkeyman33 CCP constantly tells us that our losses and annoyances are the cause of our isp or general internet problems....this time is no different.
Customer means managing and delivering to customer expectations.
Constantly blaming other institutions and groups wears thin and may create liability....hopefully either CCP will figure this out, or competition will arrive that will provide a suitable option w/o the bs
Well, it sure appears that you've not been keeping up with the Dev logs! CCP does an excellent job to telling it like it is. When they have problems with load balancing, they told us. When it was hardware issues, they told us. You should pay attention to what's going on before you jump into the fray with your lack of knowledge. BTW: There is NO competition to Eve. But hey, if you want to whine about service then go play SWG. Otherwise, just be patient and enjoy Eve when it comes back online.
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Niaski Zalani
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:22:00 -
[578]
Originally by: BlackKnight Heheh....that's a good thought Niaski. But, they'd get you with the scheduled DT.
Meh, just pau your girlfriend/wife/kid/local hobo/whatever to log in for ya a minute after the servers come up.
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Niaski Zalani
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:23:00 -
[579]
Originally by: Terpsichoria I'm kicking myself... my ship was stuck in a bunch of lag and in the past if I exited and logged right back in it un-stuck me. So I exited. And couldn't log back in. I should have just stuck it out. :P
Me too..
I quit both my EVE accounts cuz I wasn't really using them... shoulda just left 'em there 
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Sha'Uri Dark
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:23:00 -
[580]
Originally by: Niaski Zalani
Originally by: BlackKnight I guess I have learned a valuable lesson here.... NEVER pay your account to CCP three months in advance. 
Either that or Never Log Out.. so you can be one of the lucky 7,000 
Well it dumped me and then I got the cluster full msg. Don't think never logging out will help us much here.
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:23:00 -
[581]
well obvioulsy there was some node overload and the system did what it does to ensure stablity and throttled down the number of players in the game - those 7000 in the game can keep playing lucky buggers. Otherwise dunno go do some RL stuff or wait and post on the ideas forum
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Promon Delnai
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:24:00 -
[582]
Grrr.... I join and the games all bugged with things not showing up on the overview. I go to log and wham, cluster full. Great night for EVE eh.
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:24:00 -
[583]
new MOTD "general explantaion excuse - limit of 7000 currently in place"
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Mystro Famacon
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:25:00 -
[584]
Well.. one thing about this is that they can start to put up the Red Moon Rising exp. thats if they want to.. I know they are putting it up at 8pm England Time... Oh well.. 
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Ascendant Avatar
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:26:00 -
[585]
Originally by: Random Cruelty
Originally by: Ascendant Avatar Full Cluster (7000) in MST Canada.
Same.
You in Alberta bro? Thought I was the only one:)
Edmonton =) |

BlackKnight
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:26:00 -
[586]
Hiya Cruxx,
I have two accounts and I am having the same trouble as you. It is not your ISP. It's a CCP Issue. Lag, hang ups in the game, random disconnects, inability to get on the server.....
I have no other problems with any other internet based work whatsoever.
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Random Cruelty
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:26:00 -
[587]
Originally by: Ascendant Avatar Full Cluster (7000) in MST Canada.
Same.
You in Alberta bro? Thought I was the only one:)
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Alex Kilgour
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:30:00 -
[588]
Damn I've dealt with enough cluster f*cks at work don't want to see that when I get home. 
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:30:00 -
[589]
if not a corp an alliance.
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BlackKnight
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:31:00 -
[590]
Well, that lets me out. Iowa, USA here. lol
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:31:00 -
[591]
1 week before and 2 weeks after each major patch and hardware upgrades this happens ive got megacorp management V in place so im sure it will be all good after 20 days
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Dachtor
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:32:00 -
[592]
Full cluster sucks esp when they are saying patch is coming out and I was setting up my skills to train before it
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Helios Elemental
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:32:00 -
[593]
Originally by: Xaff Zeond Vancouver, BC is out too. This seems rather appropriate for today's troubles.
HA HA HA HA!!!!!! |

InfernalRage
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:32:00 -
[594]
LIGHTSWITCH RAVE!
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InfernalRage
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:33:00 -
[595]
what happens to skills in training when the patch comes out? they just continue as normal?
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Leandro Salazar
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:33:00 -
[596]
Times like these I do wish for a web-based way to change skills... :/
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Random Cruelty
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:33:00 -
[597]
Heh, I game with 4 other guys from Edmonton, but sadly they arent interested in EVE. Used to game with someone from Calgary but he was a putz.
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Ascendant Avatar
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:34:00 -
[598]
Originally by: Random Cruelty Heh, I game with 4 other guys from Edmonton, but sadly they arent interested in EVE. Used to game with someone from Calgary but he was a putz.
It's not everyones cup of tea, this game. It takes big-time devotion if you want to accomplish anything... |

Azaeren
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:34:00 -
[599]
Washington DC area cluset full. Yes i love that. especially in the middle of taking down a rather large hauler spawn in .o. Hope i dont lose my stuff...Thanks guys! way to go!
also, Reimbursement for a few days of play?
yea right |

BlackKnight
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:34:00 -
[600]
With a good Quality Control Department (and I hope CCP has a good one) and questionable QoS, I'd be hard pressed to release anything if I were in their shoes with these types of problems.
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InfernalRage
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:34:00 -
[601]
Random, I'll drop you a line in game and we can cause some ruckass.
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Hazenbazer
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:35:00 -
[602]
FULL CLUSTER STILL.
What really REALLY makes me mad is knowing most of those logged on right now are trial account haulers and miners taking up all those spaces.
Full Cluster max = 7000 is a comlete utter joke. Especially since 17000 people are usually on at this time.
This doesnt exactly look very good for a game that hasnt even done its patch yet. What can we expect after the patch? More of this?
When is enough enough? Get rid of all these friggin trial accounts. Do MORE to curve all the chinese EBAY miners and control the population more. There are WAY too many alt's, trial accounts and garbage accounts.
And the Banner STILL says "BACK UP!" for the last 45 minutes.
It is NOT back up.
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BlackKnight
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:36:00 -
[603]
Here, here Hazenbazer (insert golf clap here....)
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InfernalRage
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:37:00 -
[604]
*golf clap*
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BlackKnight
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:38:00 -
[605]
I'm thinking right now that since a moderator nor CCP has responded that it is hihgly unlikely that I (or anyone with the full cluster) problem, will be getting back on before DT.
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Zaeta Ra
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:38:00 -
[606]
If you're able to connect now though, and the game actually works when you do, you'll feel like you won the lottery!! hahaha
/thumbs down CCP |

Gavin Kineli
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:40:00 -
[607]
CCP has had a lot of problems out of their control today.
All the problems have been with things that aren't part of CCP.
Full cluster means that something happened, and to prevent further problems, capacity is being limited atm.
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Leandro Salazar
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:40:00 -
[608]
Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 14/12/2005 02:41:01 The amount of trial accounts is actually relatively small most of the time (havent seen more than like 2000 yet and there is a limit of I think 3000). The problem is most likely the chinese ISK farms. Those need to be eradicated with a vengeance in game as CCP don't seem to care whether their money comes from people doing nothing constructive but taxing their systems 23/7 or from people that really play the game 8/7 or less... :(
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Sha'Uri Dark
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:41:00 -
[609]
Originally by: BlackKnight I'm thinking right now that since a moderator nor CCP has responded that it is hihgly unlikely that I (or anyone with the full cluster) problem, will be getting back on before DT.
Sure hope not got about 1hr left on skill training atm, need to set up a nice 5+ day one for tomarrows patch
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Spacefold
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:41:00 -
[610]
Just let me set a skill before the RMR patch and I'm good... please?  -----------------------------------
/) x (\ X . Here lies Bunny. Bunny failed in his quest for world domination and has since been executed. Burn in hell bunny.. burn in hell. |
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Treher
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:41:00 -
[611]
just...want...to...change...............skill.
I forget which station container has my memory implants. |

BlackKnight
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:44:00 -
[612]
/me waits for a response from a moderator or CCP
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Helios Elemental
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:44:00 -
[613]
/me thanks goodness he was on right before this happened and switched to a 14D skill!!!!
*does happy dance* |

Tommy TenKreds
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:44:00 -
[614]
     
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Random Cruelty
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:46:00 -
[615]
Dont I feel stupid, I logged on and hour or 2 ago (there were only 921 people on) I checked my skills the logged out to get supper. I came back to the full cluster.
16 hours till my skill finishes training. Thats how long CCP has to get it this prob fixed.
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Vetraband
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:46:00 -
[616]
i so enjoy reading these forums and playing the game in a window 
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InfernalRage
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:47:00 -
[617]
Originally by: Vetraband
i so enjoy reading these forums and playing the game in a window 
Gimme your IP and I can change that pretty quick 
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res0nance
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:47:00 -
[618]
Full cluster.. what crap
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Aethan Kryn
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:48:00 -
[619]
It was a hard drive crash. If you want a response, look a few pages back - there was one. Hard drive crash. It happens. They didn't do it on purpose.
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Inanara
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:48:00 -
[620]
*cries* all I wanted to do was change my skill training before I go off to work *cry*
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Vetraband
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:48:00 -
[621]
roflmao
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Neesa Corrinne
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:49:00 -
[622]
I'm in South Korea and I keep getting a: Full Cluster (7000) message.
I have no clue what this means. 
Anyhow, all the other online games that either myself or my friends are subscribed to are working just fine as well as my ISP, so no CCP, this is not a problem my ISP as one of them attempted to attribute this all to.
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Samcarter
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:49:00 -
[623]
Edited by: Samcarter on 14/12/2005 02:50:33 postpone the patch until you guys get your s*** together cause the servers are seriously screwed up..... don't mess it up even more by deployingthe patch.... fix one thing at a time. Get the servers stable for a few days and then deploy the patch
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Angelic Resolution
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:50:00 -
[624]
.... Cluster full for the last 40 minutes (That I know of) and the game is still saying it's "Back up!"...
Bad luck CCP.. you had a week of no "OMFGWTFBBQ LAG!?" threads and now this :(
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:50:00 -
[625]
I am going to the test server --------------------------
Whats funny is your heard it. |

Gavin Kineli
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:51:00 -
[626]
Originally by: Neesa Corrinne I'm in South Korea and I keep getting a: Full Cluster (7000) message.
I have no clue what this means. 
Anyhow, all the other online games that either myself or my friends are subscribed to are working just fine as well as my ISP, so no CCP, this is not a problem my ISP as one of them attempted to attribute this all to.
Earlier today, there was an ISP issue in London, which a lot of people have their connection to Eve going through.
That was resolved, and unfortunately, Eve is having a different problem atm.
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Gavin Kineli
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:51:00 -
[627]
Originally by: Samcarter Edited by: Samcarter on 14/12/2005 02:50:33 postpone the patch until you guys get your s*** together cause the servers are seriously screwed up..... don't mess it up even more by deployingthe patch.... fix one thing at a time. Get the servers stable for a few days and then deploy the patch
One bad thing happens one time and they should postpone the patch? The servers were stable for days until something tanked today.
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Random Cruelty
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:51:00 -
[628]
Originally by: Angelic Resolution
Bad luck CCP.. you had a week of no "OMFGWTFBBQ LAG!?" threads and now this :(
It built up.
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Vetraband
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:51:00 -
[629]
everybody all over the world is getting full cluster ... they have had a hard drive melt down apparently ... so for the time being they can only let 7000 people on until its fixed ... and 2 of them are my accounts   
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Triax Calingham
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:52:00 -
[630]
I had a skill finish about two hours ago, and haven't been able to log in yet... i am in the eastern coast usa... hoping i will get in before DT tomorrow so i can set a skill before they patch.
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BlackKnight
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:53:00 -
[631]
I would really....really, like to play the game.
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BlackKnight
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:55:00 -
[632]
true Cormallen...absolutely no response. I'm guessing we won't get one.
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Cormallen
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:55:00 -
[633]
Do they even know there is a problem, haven't seen one offical response about this new message. wtf!
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Gavin Kineli
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:56:00 -
[634]
That, and someone has to manually cap the server, so it's impossible to NOT be aware of it.
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Helios Elemental
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:56:00 -
[635]
Originally by: Vetraband
i so enjoy reading these forums and playing the game in a window 
You should be crucified for saying that... at the very least, disconnected with your skill training aborting.  |

Triax Calingham
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Posted - 2005.12.14 02:56:00 -
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Originally by: Cormallen Do they even know there is a problem, haven't seen one offical response about this new message. wtf!
actually the first post was made by an official, take a look ^^
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Gavin Kineli
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Posted - 2005.12.14 03:02:00 -
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Originally by: Meave Greenleaf You, know. I have to agree that i would be mighty ****ed if i were paying for this game and could not play, due to the server being full. 3000 is a lot of free players when there are only 7000 openings to begin with. I'd like to subscribe to this game, but not if the servers are going to be like this. Does this kind of thing happen often?
No, this is just a hardware crash, but people are whining like it happens all the time.
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Gavin Kineli
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Posted - 2005.12.14 03:02:00 -
[638]
And it's back up - you whiners.
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InfernalRage
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Posted - 2005.12.14 03:02:00 -
[639]
PRAISE THE GODS OF CCP!
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Random Cruelty
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Posted - 2005.12.14 03:02:00 -
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Originally by: InfernalRage I didnt want to have to say this... but im going to play quake 4. Now I know what some of you are thinking; "look at this jackass, playing an inferior FPS game in replacement for such a highly sophisticated RPG.
Its true, quake does differ in quite a few aspects. Some would agree that even the game play quality is sub par to the awesomeness that is eve. Unfortunatly, to that there is only one thing to say.
At least I can CONNECT!
I think I am going to play America's Army. Their server listing was down yesterday, lets hope its back up.
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Ascendant Avatar
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Posted - 2005.12.14 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: InfernalRage I didnt want to have to say this... but im going to play quake 4. Now I know what some of you are thinking; "look at this jackass, playing an inferior FPS game in replacement for such a highly sophisticated RPG.
Its true, quake does differ in quite a few aspects. Some would agree that even the game play quality is sub par to the awesomeness that is eve. Unfortunatly, to that there is only one thing to say.
At least I can CONNECT!
What do you mean, there are games other than EvE? I don't get it.... |

Tinarto Anduvian
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Posted - 2005.12.14 03:03:00 -
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Yeah, there are 8,019 players on now. I think the cap got removed.
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Angelic Resolution
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Posted - 2005.12.14 03:07:00 -
[643]
Tis back-up. Gw CCP.
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Quithlar Binay
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Posted - 2005.12.14 03:17:00 -
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Originally by: Meave Greenleaf You, know. I have to agree that i would be mighty ****ed if i were paying for this game and could not play, due to the server being full. 3000 is a lot of free players when there are only 7000 openings to begin with. I'd like to subscribe to this game, but not if the servers are going to be like this. Does this kind of thing happen often?
It does not happen often. There is a good deal of spiteful posting in this thread, by pilots who are unable for some reason to deal with the situation without lashing out. CCP's words and actions have shown that they hate this kind of problem at least as much as we do. You will get to witness this shortly, as no doubt there will be an apology and an explanation of the event.
No one can promise there will not be further problems. Eve's unique status means it is an adventure in much more than game design. Have a look at some of the Dev blogs and news articles on the main site for some idea of the challenges they (and therefore, we) face.
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Quithlar Binay Instructor, Advanced Studies Federal Navy Academy |

BlackKnight
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Posted - 2005.12.14 03:31:00 -
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Reconnected....and BOOM. Kicked off immediately. LAg, program lockups....same old stuff.
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Sky Hunter
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Posted - 2005.12.14 07:15:00 -
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yeah great... had to go, means lost 6 hours of training. thats about 12 000 SP. Thanks CCP. -=-
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Etto Neppeo
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Posted - 2005.12.14 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: kieron The database issue that took Tranquility down was a database crash resulting after one of the hard drives ran out of disk space.
Was it one of those RAMSANs?
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Fitz Chivalry
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Posted - 2005.12.14 09:51:00 -
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I love a good whine now and then but lets not act like this happens all the time.
I cannot even remember the last time it crashed like this.
PCs etc are not the most stable thigns in the world you may have noticed. My copy of CIV 4 has crashed a couple of times now - ohnoes where is the CIV forum so i can go whine about how my copy is unstable - get sid meir down here to refund me 1 evenings play against the full cost (1p?).
Get over it.
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Sanaen Eydanwadh
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Posted - 2005.12.14 10:52:00 -
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well on the other hand, this is specifically a whinage thread, so let's whine ! 
I lost the best part of my evening with these server problems, and had a skill set for one more hour - won't be able to connect untill this evening (if...), so that's one more time 24hours of skills lost. Bah it's not the first time and it's usually due to my carelessness anyway, so I don't really care, but it still deserves a small ranting post done !
But aye, get over it - and to the devs, good luck with these bloody hamsters!
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Tas Devil
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Posted - 2005.12.14 11:02:00 -
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to all of you thinking of changing skills tonight...remember that TQ is being taken down at 20:00 GMT for the RMR patch deployement...
Might want to set that long skill training ASAP...
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