Barge kills are at a record low.

Around 40 freighters are ganked out of 500,000 to 1,000,000 trips made a month.


Where is all of this out of control ganking?

People shooting people is a game. There are places for it. Lowsec, Nulsec. Wars, Duels. However, one has to ask the question 'are these people sick' when it comes to nonconsentual combat (highsec) specifically targeting non-threat targets (industrialists) via metagame exploitation, especially at the current levels it is taking place, and for no reason other than for the sake of doing it.

You nit pick needlessly and apply your BS as so called claimed facts you take one instance and proclaim said instand to be the general rule you fail sir LOL FAIL I SAY FAILLLLLLLLLLLLLL!

NO! He is HELPING CPP... can't your read? Silly troll...

/sarcasm

Null is the worst place in the game, it's filled with zombies, bots and delusional carebares who believe they are elite pvp'ers, and they are all controlled by ******** space megalomaniacs with asperger syndrome. Hi-sec is the best place in the game, you can't get hot dropped, no blobs and gate camps and you are close to the major trade hubs, low-sec is not bad... it's not hi-sec, but still way better then null.

If you industrialist/miners don't like getting ganked, i would suggest you **** off to null and live with the freaks, because I'm not leaving hi-sec.

People shooting people is a game. There are places for it. Lowsec, Nulsec. Wars, Duels.

However, one has to ask the question 'are these people sick' when it comes to nonconsentual combat (highsec)

Disagree, this is EvE. No where is safe, highsec should be on that list. Sure there should always be consequences, but you imply that the option for highsec combat should not be there. Correct me if I misunderstood your intent.


No, I donGÇÖt have to ask that question. They are playing a game, this is not real life. As to GÇ£nonconsetualGÇ¥ again, this is part and parcel of EvE, non-consensual combat does not exist in EvE online, you agree to it by logging in.
I think this attitude is the main reason that people complain about ganking, there is a sense of (I hate to use this word, but I cant think of a better one) entitlement, that people should be just left alone to do their own thing. There is no such thing as non-consensual in EvE, everything from mining to nullsec CTAGÇÖs is against other people. When you mine you are in direct competition with other miners.

I mine a lot on my alt. I fly a throw away retriever, its fitted with cheap modules and cheap drones. If it gets blown, in all honestly I couldnGÇÖt care less. The simple reason for that is that if it does go bang, its because I wasnGÇÖt at my keyboard (I occasionally go AFK for a smoke when I'm mining). The thing is, I'm ok with that. Its my fault for not being at my desk and itGÇÖs a cost I am prepared for.

No, I donGÇÖt have to ask that question. They are playing a game, this is not real life. As to GÇ£nonconsetualGÇ¥ again, this is part and parcel of EvE, non-consensual combat does not exist in EvE online, you agree to it by logging in.

OH GOD I hate people who break up quots to put their lame point across

it is so stupid and compleatly anal

Do you consent to sex every time you wake up in the morning? It's a part and parcel of life, and nobody's stopping them from just taking it from you. Just because the mechanics allow it doesn't make it automatically consentual.

It's a game, but there's a designated 'green zone'. Ganking is a player-emergent behavior that is not supported by CCP except by not directly addressing it.

Thats nice.




I hate people who have to resort to ad hominen attacks because they have no valid counter argument.

I mine a lot on my alt. I fly a throw away retriever, its fitted with cheap modules and cheap drones. If it gets blown, in all honestly I couldnGÇÖt care less. The simple reason for that is that if it does go bang, its because I wasnGÇÖt at my keyboard (I occasionally go AFK for a smoke when I'm mining). The thing is, I'm ok with that. Its my fault for not being at my desk and itGÇÖs a cost I am prepared for.

1. One does not need a professional license to correctly associate a behavioral pattern to a dictionary definition. One does, however, to prescribe treatment or to establish a record by which the person may claim status such as disability. Further, it's obvious you are trolling in an attempt to invoke fear of some violation, which has failed.

2. Using the term 'antisocial' in an environment discussion on the internet begs the fallacious and assinine argument that the behaviour in question is 'social' in nature due to their interaction with victims. Ergo, I selected a deprecated term which doesn't bait the arguement.

3. People who play EVE are real people, and exhibit human behavior in their interactions with others in a virtual environment. Whether or not an assessed behavioral pattern exists in both virtual behavior and the 'real life' behavior of the same person is highly dependant on the individual.

4. You can not, even by rhetoric, associate delusional psychosis on a person without assessing the real person to determine if non-normal behavior is present.

5. Go back to school. You are not the smartest person in the room.

Do you consent to sex every time you wake up in the morning? It's a part and parcel of life, and nobody's stopping them from just taking it from you. Just because the mechanics allow it doesn't make it automatically consentual.

It's a game, but there's a designated 'green zone'. Ganking is a player-emergent behavior that is not supported by CCP except by not directly addressing it.

If you are hand cuffed to the bed nonconsetual sex becomes a part of your life given enough time you'll not notice it any more it will become a part of your life. This is the way with how eve has gone the miners who get ganked are the handcuffed victims who no longer see being raped each day as a problem any more.

Now the rapists still see the constant sex as brutalising and enjoy it all the more when the victim just rolls over and accepts the situation.

Now and then a victim crys out THIS IS WRONG! and all the rapists then form a possy and shout the unruly victim down. Welcome to eve.

If you are hand cuffed to the bed nonconsetual sex becomes a part of your life given enough time you'll not notice it any more it will become a part of your life. This is the way with how eve has gone the miners who get ganked are the handcuffed victims who no longer see being raped each day as a problem any more.

Now the rapists still see the constant sex as brutalising and enjoy it all the more when the victim just rolls over and accepts the situation.

Now and then a victim crys out THIS IS WRONG! and all the rapists then form a possy and shout the unruly victim down. Welcome to eve.

Ladfies and genlemen I give you butt hurtage at it's finest cry me a river dude.

typical flame on thread the OP makes a valid point and the rest of you blatantly avoid the point in question and blar blar blar rubbish.

Ganking is out of control deal with it.

In cases of gankage go to http://www.samaritans.org they are there to help you help your self

One could also argue that mining in highsec is out of control & we are doing our part to maintain balance.

Even though nobody asked you to, nore gives a lick... that's ego.

The discussion is a little moot. In EVE, there is no shortage of genuine sociopaths.

If you undock, you do so acknowledging that there is a strong culture where committing to a suicide attack (of any scale) against an otherwise 'unattractive' or 'unprofitable' target isn't just normal, it's encouraged.

Taken into the environment of EVE Online, highsec ganking (Nonconsentual combat in a declared 'safe zone) would correlate appropriately to an 'immoral act'.

People shooting people is a game. There are places for it. Lowsec, Nulsec.

Ganking is out of control deal with it.

That's the beauty of the sandbox, no one has to ask them. They see something they decide is wrong, they go do something about it.

One could also argue that mining in highsec is out of control & we are doing our part to maintain balance.

Until somebody decides that what they do is damaging to the game... then they are gone and forgotten... one must be pretty delusional to think otherwise.

GǪwhich would mean that the guys who are adamantly opposed to ganking are the sociopaths since they can't conform to the cultural norms

Agreed, we aren't allowed one freaking game that's not WoW reskinned. They have literally hundreds to choose from but oh no EVE has to be Progress Quest in space too. 'Bears I don't go to the Blizzard forums and whine for full loot PVP, stick to your candyfloss games please!

One must be pretty delusional to think that this will happen in the future if it hasn't happened yetGǪ which it hasn't. Especially when we consider that the last we hard on the matter from CCP was that it's worth losing some customer rather than trying to constantly nibble away at the integrity of the game to please their incessant whining.