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Lady Areola Fappington New Order Logistics CODE. 528	Posted - 2013.09.15 17:56:00 - [61] - Quote Bertrand Butler wrote: Jim Roebuck wrote: 800DPS Dessie, where can I get that fit? [Catalyst, Gank Heavy] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Small Hybrid Burst Aerator II Small Hybrid Locus Coordinator I [Empty Rig slot] Zainou 'Deadeye' Small Hybrid Turret SH-606 Pashan's Turret Customization Mindlink 802 DPS hot void. Of course, you will never see a pod like that so...RF-903 and SH-603 give you 747DPS. Also, you will likely never encounter the 9.5mil T2 aerator in a ganking setup, so you get about 728DPS @max skills Looks about right, with absolute max skills everywhere. Honestly though, most gankers I personally know just train a gank alt in a spare slot in an account. They didn't want to waste a ton of time training, so DPS ends up between 500-650. Basically, once you can nuke an untanked maki and pod in 0.7, there's no need to train any more. Also, that ganker pod jeez...used to make fun of a guy who regularly lost 100mil gank pods.... Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
Renault T'Bonin Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 80	Posted - 2013.09.15 17:58:00 - [62] - Quote Dalmont Delantee wrote: Does it matter? None of the mining barges need any more of a buff. EVE is not a place where you can happily do what you want anywhere. You are always in danger you are always potentially dead. Thats the point of EVE. Now please please get over this hissy fit of dying and stop worrying! yu kneed to reed mor thuroly yu mis poeint loock lice funy klown
Bertrand Butler Cras es Noster 80	Posted - 2013.09.15 18:00:00 - [63] - Quote Yep, as said the standard for a heavy cata is this: [Catalyst, Gank Heavy] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I Small Hybrid Locus Coordinator I Small Hybrid Locus Coordinator I 708DPS with RF-903 and SH-603, ~12mil procurement cost.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 16478	Posted - 2013.09.15 18:00:00 - [64] - Quote Renault T'Bonin wrote: Dalmont Delantee wrote: Does it matter? None of the mining barges need any more of a buff. EVE is not a place where you can happily do what you want anywhere. You are always in danger you are always potentially dead. Thats the point of EVE. Now please please get over this hissy fit of dying and stop worrying! yu kneed to reed mor thuroly yu mis poeint loock lice funy klown You need to switch to water (and a dash of salt) right about now. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.
Captain Tardbar Sons of Sam 518	Posted - 2013.09.15 18:06:00 - [65] - Quote Belana Mawr wrote: Mizhir wrote: You can make the gank cost more if you use a Skiff (I think thats the tanky barge). Then they team up and 2 destroyers (6mills worth) will take out your skiff and still have time to pop your pod, You can easily make a skiff with over 50K EHP. I know one guy with max skills with over 70K EHP. Thats more than two destroyers worth. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down.
Lady Areola Fappington New Order Logistics CODE. 528	Posted - 2013.09.15 18:10:00 - [66] - Quote Bertrand Butler wrote: Yep, as said the standard for a heavy cata is this: [Catalyst, Gank Heavy] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I Small Hybrid Locus Coordinator I Small Hybrid Locus Coordinator I 708DPS with RF-903 and SH-603, ~12mil procurement cost. Its also counter-intuitive to get the small blaster to V, so you end up at 695. Looks about what I use for a T2. Typically save those T2 fits for solo ganking, or going out on whale hunts. For a typical group gank though, meta fits are fine and dandy. If you didn't know, some of us have started situationally fitting ECCM, too. Few anti-ganker bros out there have started using Grifs to jam us out. Here's the funny thing..here we are, handing out fits, offering to take miners out ganking, the whole nine yards...yet they'll stubbornly hold the "moral high ground" refuse to do anything to better their position, then complain when they get popped. Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
Shalua Rui Rui Freelance Mining 20849	Posted - 2013.09.15 18:18:00 - [67] - Quote Lady Areola Fappington wrote: Here's the funny thing..here we are, handing out fits, offering to take miners out ganking, the whole nine yards...yet they'll stubbornly hold the "moral high ground" refuse to do anything to better their position, then complain when they get popped. If you don't get that, than I seriously have to question your understanding of the human condition... just saying "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) Feature ideas I had/endorse: Crew Managment, Orcas as mobile Bases
RAIN Arthie The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing 113	Posted - 2013.09.15 18:18:00 - [68] - Quote Well, take some of that care bear money and buy some mercs. Problem solved. Or join an alliance that at the drop of a hat open fire on concorde. :)
Bertrand Butler Cras es Noster 80	Posted - 2013.09.15 18:18:00 - [69] - Quote Didn't know about EW pickets in HS...haven't seen any in Kino so far. At least that's...trying to do something...XD Quote: Here's the funny thing..here we are, handing out fits, offering to take miners out ganking, the whole nine yards...yet they'll stubbornly hold the "moral high ground" refuse to do anything to better their position, then complain when they get popped. Its a mentality problem, really. Most ppl do not understand that miner ganking or bumping provides another layer of social interaction for players in HS, both on the offense and the defense. The problem stems from the fact that the "defenders" really do not even try to capitalize on a vast array of actions they can perform to augment their defense or fight back.
Dave Stark 3669	Posted - 2013.09.15 18:20:00 - [70] - Quote i've just seen a freighter get ganked. guess how many catalysts it took?
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 1426	Posted - 2013.09.15 18:33:00 - [71] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: i've just seen a freighter get ganked. Just one? You need to stay logged in longer. I've seen one die every 20 minutes since DT. True story, bro. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter.
Dave Stark 3669	Posted - 2013.09.15 18:35:00 - [72] - Quote Domanique Altares wrote: Dave Stark wrote: i've just seen a freighter get ganked. Just one? You need to stay logged in longer. I've seen one die every 20 minutes since DT. True story, bro. i was just semi afking my way to jita in my orca, i wasn't even looking for freighters!
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 16478	Posted - 2013.09.15 18:39:00 - [73] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: i've just seen a freighter get ganked. guess how many catalysts it took? None? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.
Jonah Gravenstein Sweet Sensations Radical Industries 13826	Posted - 2013.09.15 18:39:00 - [74] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: i've just seen a freighter get ganked. guess how many catalysts it took? More importantly how much did the Catalysts used, if any, cost? Military experts say you can get 800 DPS from one for as little as 3 million isk. I am furnishing this post "as is" I do not provide any warranty whatsoever, whether express, implied, or statutory, including, but not limited to, any relevance or fitness for purpose or any warranty that the contents herein are error-free.
Lady Areola Fappington New Order Logistics CODE. 528	Posted - 2013.09.15 18:43:00 - [75] - Quote Shalua Rui wrote: Lady Areola Fappington wrote: Here's the funny thing..here we are, handing out fits, offering to take miners out ganking, the whole nine yards...yet they'll stubbornly hold the "moral high ground" refuse to do anything to better their position, then complain when they get popped. If you don't get that, than I seriously have to question your understanding of the human condition... just saying Human condition..it's a video game, eesh. Some of you people blur the line between reality and fantasy in unhealthy ways. Using similar logic, I must be a member of a terrorist organization, because I play the terrorists in counterstrike. Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 1426	Posted - 2013.09.15 18:44:00 - [76] - Quote Renault T'Bonin wrote: With align and tank, it's a fail against a Catalyst for either a Covetor or a Hulk. There is no defense in .6 or .5. Maybe with a faction fitting.... but the expense is ridiculous. Here toy go. 92k EHP versus Void. Right ship for the job, and all that. You shouldn't expect survivability from things with a paper tank. This is why we use d-scan set at semi-close range, so that we can see the nasty Catalyst incoming. [Procurer, Cheap Tanked Procurer] Mining Laser Upgrade II Damage Control II Medium Shield Extender II Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I Thermic Dissipation Field II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Hobgoblin I x5 Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter.
Dave Stark 3669	Posted - 2013.09.15 18:48:00 - [77] - Quote Tippia wrote: Dave Stark wrote: i've just seen a freighter get ganked. guess how many catalysts it took? None? correct. they used tornados.
Captain Tardbar Sons of Sam 519	Posted - 2013.09.15 18:53:00 - [78] - Quote Lady Areola Fappington wrote: Shalua Rui wrote: Lady Areola Fappington wrote: Here's the funny thing..here we are, handing out fits, offering to take miners out ganking, the whole nine yards...yet they'll stubbornly hold the "moral high ground" refuse to do anything to better their position, then complain when they get popped. If you don't get that, than I seriously have to question your understanding of the human condition... just saying Human condition..it's a video game, eesh. Some of you people blur the line between reality and fantasy in unhealthy ways. Using similar logic, I must be a member of a terrorist organization, because I play the terrorists in counterstrike. I seem to use this example a lot. If me and Tippia met in-game, I would likely be trying to kill him, and vice versa. If me and Tippia met RL, I would invite him out for a drink. Well apparently some police think so.... http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/09/14/123236/student-arrested-for-using-phone-app-to-shoot-classmates I'm not agreeing with it, but you can be arrested for it. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down.
Renault T'Bonin Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 80	Posted - 2013.09.15 18:56:00 - [79] - Quote Lady Areola Fappington wrote: Shalua Rui wrote: Lady Areola Fappington wrote: Here's the funny thing..here we are, handing out fits, offering to take miners out ganking, the whole nine yards...yet they'll stubbornly hold the "moral high ground" refuse to do anything to better their position, then complain when they get popped. If you don't get that, than I seriously have to question your understanding of the human condition... just saying Human condition..it's a video game, eesh. Some of you people blur the line between reality and fantasy in unhealthy ways. Using similar logic, I must be a member of a terrorist organization, because I play the terrorists in counterstrike. I seem to use this example a lot. If me and Tippia met in-game, I would likely be trying to kill him, and vice versa. If me and Tippia met RL, I would invite him out for a drink. Well.... According to quantum physics.... oh forget it.
Shalua Rui Rui Freelance Mining 20849	Posted - 2013.09.15 18:56:00 - [80] - Quote Lady Areola Fappington wrote: Human condition..it's a video game, eesh. Some of you people blur the line between reality and fantasy in unhealthy ways. Using similar logic, I must be a member of a terrorist organization, because I play the terrorists in counterstrike. I seem to use this example a lot. If me and Tippia met in-game, I would likely be trying to kill him, and vice versa. If me and Tippia met RL, I would invite him out for a drink. That's not what I meant, sorry... English is not my first language and from time to time my manner of speaking is a tad... convoluted? What I'm trying to say: Most people don't like to be told what to do, especially when they don't think the people telling them stuff are in no position to do so... "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) Feature ideas I had/endorse: Crew Managment, Orcas as mobile Bases
Grimpak Duty. The Cursed Few 1104	Posted - 2013.09.15 18:56:00 - [81] - Quote THIS THREAD.... [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img] [quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Lady Areola Fappington New Order Logistics CODE. 528	Posted - 2013.09.15 19:00:00 - [82] - Quote Renault T'Bonin wrote: Well.... According to quantum physics.... oh forget it. You know, depending on interpretations of the Many Worlds Theory, everything that can possibly happen does possibly happen every instant in time. Sometimes I giggle at the thought that, somehow in the many branching fronds that may exist in the possibility tree that is time as we know at, Lady Areola Fappington exists, and is out there blowing up miners. That, however, is thoughts for good drugs and open minds, and not a chat about destroyers eating mining barges. Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
Dracvlad Taishi Combine 99	Posted - 2013.09.15 19:06:00 - [83] - Quote LOL, if this is by any chance a dig at what I said in terms of a Hulk being destroyed in a 0.7 system and its pilot podded by a single Destroyer, it was before the buff and I did say that, now that I looked at the kill it was a 0.5 system, he told me it was a 0.7, facepalm... http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12766425 and the pod http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12766426 Oh well, check check and check again! If you do not want LOCAL go to WH space, its as simple as that!-á-á-á-á-á-á-á There are people who think that WH space is like 0.0 but without local, well they should light a cyno and try jumping to it.
Lady Areola Fappington New Order Logistics CODE. 528	Posted - 2013.09.15 19:11:00 - [84] - Quote Shalua Rui wrote: That's not what I meant, sorry... English is not my first language and from time to time my manner of speaking is a tad... convoluted? What I'm trying to say: Most people don't like to be told what to do, especially when they don't think the people telling them stuff are in no position to do so... Gotcha, no harm done. I get the same in Real Life. Some people just absolutely hate it when a nurse says "Hey, you need to give up the smoking, drinking, and fatty food, you're killing yourself". Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
baltec1 Bat Country 8006	Posted - 2013.09.15 19:14:00 - [85] - Quote What's all this then?
Shalua Rui Rui Freelance Mining 20849	Posted - 2013.09.15 19:20:00 - [86] - Quote Lady Areola Fappington wrote: I get the same in Real Life. Some people just absolutely hate it when a nurse says "Hey, you need to give up the smoking, drinking, and fatty food, you're killing yourself". Exactly, and those are actually meaningful suggestions that one should better heed, coming from somebody that generally knows better... so it cannot come as a surprise that people don't listen to suggestions regarding "just" a game that they play in their spare time, coming from other people that they perceive as "equals", no? "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) Feature ideas I had/endorse: Crew Managment, Orcas as mobile Bases
Dave Stark 3670	Posted - 2013.09.15 19:50:00 - [87] - Quote baltec1 wrote: What's all this then? apparently for 3m isk you can get an 800 dps ship. i didn't know about this, did you?
Cannibal Kane My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse 2376	Posted - 2013.09.15 20:21:00 - [88] - Quote War declared on OP because I can... "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS
baltec1 Bat Country 8008	Posted - 2013.09.15 20:23:00 - [89] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: baltec1 wrote: What's all this then? apparently for 3m isk you can get an 800 dps ship. i didn't know about this, did you? Must be the same place I can get my mega hulls with the power of a fleet of vindicators.
Lilliana Stelles 892	Posted - 2013.09.15 20:39:00 - [90] - Quote Just built an 800 dps catalyst in Pyfa. ... Seems to be a bit more than 3 mil. [Catalyst, Catalyst fit] Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I [Empty Rig slot] Zainou 'Deadeye' Small Hybrid Turret SH-606 Pashan's Turret Customization Mindlink Incarna from 2009. 3 Years later and what we have doesn't look half as good as this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n41s1Iox18A

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