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Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
460
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Posted - 2013.09.16 14:50:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:... assuming OP removed all text from her post because it was 100% bullonium. Or the community here is nasty and made them feel uncomfortable. We do that to folks as post unmitigated garbage. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
2786
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Posted - 2013.09.16 14:54:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:I love the pro-pvp posing. I doubt there is anyone who pvp's "full time" who doesn't do some form of carebear activity. If they don't that's because they get ships replaced, payed for by members who do pve activities.
Most of that activity occurs either in safe null or high sec. The majority of that in highsec.
You can argue all you like about what I'm going to say next but that activity has to be done in relative safety or its not going to be done at all. No safety, no subscriptions to run the servers, no pvp.
75% of players are in high sec. Don't tell me that they're 3 of the each null seccers alts because that's bs. PvE primarily is what keeps this game afloat.
Incorrect (as usual). 75% of CHARACTERS are in high sec, many of them enslaved isk-alts like mine. PvE is useful, it brings isk and items into the game.
But what keeps the game afloat is CONSUMPTION. Nothing anyone in high sec or PVE player anywhere does means jack if pvp players aren't killing that 1.7 million ships per year in null sec. The isk in your wallet and mine is meaningless without them.
This is the difference between PVE players like me and carebears like those present on these forums: I KNOW which side my bread is buttered on. I know that the items I gain from exploration and sell in jita (BPCs, a and X type mods etc) go to other PVE players who are most likely to be gathering isk to fund pvp activities. I know that without the PVP player that I sometimes don't get along with, my own gameplay would be meaningless.
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Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
460
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Posted - 2013.09.16 14:55:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:...see, I actually have a life. You were doing great, right up this point. 'Tis a commonly-held but fallacious belief that gankers have no life. We do. Or, at least, most of us do. Just as most EVE players in general have a life.
We just play differently. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
2786
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Posted - 2013.09.16 14:55:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:... assuming OP removed all text from her post because it was 100% bullonium. Or the community here is nasty and made them feel uncomfortable.
In other words this is a grown ups play ground and silly little over-sensitive kids should be somewhere else?
Working as intended.
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Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
269
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Posted - 2013.09.16 14:57:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:War declared on OP because I can...
Was wondering when I'd get to this post in this thread. Its like finally getting to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop. This is the rule:-á In Eve it's always a trick. If you don't think it's a trick, you just don't have enough experience to know what the trick is. That doesn't mean you shouldn't launch on that fool anyway and roll the dice. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16492
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Posted - 2013.09.16 15:00:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Incorrect (as usual). 75% of CHARACTERS are in high sec, many of them enslaved isk-alts like mine. PvE is useful, it brings isk and items into the game. GǪit's only 65% (trending downwards) actually, last we saw any numbers on it. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
460
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Posted - 2013.09.16 15:05:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Incorrect (as usual). 75% of CHARACTERS are in high sec, many of them enslaved isk-alts like mine. PvE is useful, it brings isk and items into the game. GǪit's only 65% (trending downwards) actually, last we saw any numbers on it. The exact numbers, and even the trend, are kinda before the point. I do PvE in Hi quite a lot. Keeps me close to where the action is, close to where BB fleets form, and is generally a useful place to be. Sure, I could get greater return in Lo or Nul, but my main keeps me in funds, so that's not real important.
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
2789
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Posted - 2013.09.16 15:13:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Incorrect (as usual). 75% of CHARACTERS are in high sec, many of them enslaved isk-alts like mine. PvE is useful, it brings isk and items into the game. GǪit's only 65% (trending downwards) actually, last we saw any numbers on it. So the number of highsec players could easily be some 30% or so (which, incidentally, matches neatly with 73% of players liking nullsec gameplay).
You and your articulated facts and critical thinking again! Blah, you should learn to relax and think the high sec way ie "go with whatever feels good, no matter what the actual situation is". You know, the hippie way . |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1146
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Posted - 2013.09.16 15:41:00 -
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Let's take a hypothetical game, we'll call it "EBE Online". This game has consistently for ten years running been generally unremarkable in every classic metric for measuring mainstream videogames. However, EBE Online has one defining characteristic that distinguishes it from all other mainstream games, we'll call this hypothetical characteristic " emerbent gameplay". Despite being consistently mediocre or worse in all the usual characteristics of videogames, EBE Online manages to consistently survive and generally grow year after year for a decade while almost every other mainstream game dies in flames around it.
Who in their right mind would look at this situation and suggest that dumbing down emerbent gameplay is the key to unlocking greater success for EBE Online? Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |

Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
270
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Posted - 2013.09.16 15:56:00 -
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Varius Xeral wrote:Let's take a hypothetical game, we'll call it "EBE Online". This game has consistently for ten years running been generally unremarkable in every classic metric for measuring mainstream videogames. However, EBE Online has one defining characteristic that distinguishes it from all other mainstream games, we'll call this hypothetical characteristic " emerbent gameplay". Despite being consistently mediocre or worse in all the usual characteristics of videogames, EBE Online manages to consistently survive and generally grow year after year for a decade while almost every other mainstream game dies in flames around it.
Who in their right mind would look at this situation and suggest that dumbing down emerbent gameplay is the key to unlocking greater success for EBE Online?
Ask CCP I guess. Apparently several people there feel just that way. This is the rule:-á In Eve it's always a trick. If you don't think it's a trick, you just don't have enough experience to know what the trick is. That doesn't mean you shouldn't launch on that fool anyway and roll the dice. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
2795
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Posted - 2013.09.16 16:11:00 -
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Varius Xeral wrote:Let's take a hypothetical game, we'll call it "EBE Online". This game has consistently for ten years running been generally unremarkable in every classic metric for measuring mainstream videogames. However, EBE Online has one defining characteristic that distinguishes it from all other mainstream games, we'll call this hypothetical characteristic " emerbent gameplay". Despite being consistently mediocre or worse in all the usual characteristics of videogames, EBE Online manages to consistently survive and generally grow year after year for a decade while almost every other mainstream game dies in flames around it.
Who in their right mind would look at this situation and suggest that dumbing down emerbent gameplay is the key to unlocking greater success for EBE Online?
Underlined the part of the post that suggests the answer you seek. ie "Imbercils" 
Slightly more seriously, some people hold the "cup half empty" worldview and think that if it exists, it must be crappy and can be made better. People like that don't understand that something exist the way they do for a reason and that you screw with it's balance at your own peril.
Those same people tend to be really short sighted, in that they don't understand that the thing they think they hate ("emergent gameplay" and thus uncertainty, non-consensual pvp everywhere including high sec, EVE's death penalties and so on) are at the same time the things that keep people -including them- paying for and playing the game.
If they just wanted to be left alone, why not play on sisi? If they don't like universe wide non-consensual pvp, why not play games like Star Trek Online or dozens of other that prevent ANY such thing in the 1st place?
It's because they like the danger, they just don't understand they like it. They'd hate an eve without the danger, yet they keep ignorantly calling for it because they can't be honest enough inside themselves to admit it.
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E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
278
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Posted - 2013.09.16 16:16:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Tippia wrote:Have you tried hunting down and killing them?
Good morning, Tippia. I see that you've brought your sense of humor today. Ahhhh so thats whats shes going for...my bad. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16496
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Posted - 2013.09.16 16:27:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:In EvE, blowing up someones 100 million hulk, or 6 billion jump freighter incurs the equivalent of a parking fine, since the sec loss is so small and so easily fixed, and the cost is 98% less (it cost 5000% more isk to gank in 2009) then it was when these ships came out. So what? What's the problem? Why should it cost more?
Quote:They have to balance ganking against subscription loss. What losses are those? And no, people coming to realise that they're not the target audience for a game is not a subscription loss, much like how the millions of people playing farmville instead of GenericShooter 2013 are not lost customers.
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Ahhhh so thats whats shes going for. No. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1443
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Posted - 2013.09.16 16:38:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Tippia wrote:Have you tried hunting down and killing them?
Good morning, Tippia. I see that you've brought your sense of humor today. Ahhhh so thats whats shes going for...my bad.
No, that's what I was going for. I think Tippia and I would both prefer it if miners got off their asses and hunted people down instead of creating these threads ad nauseum. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |

Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
461
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Posted - 2013.09.16 16:53:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Tippia wrote:Have you tried hunting down and killing them?
Good morning, Tippia. I see that you've brought your sense of humor today. Ahhhh so thats whats shes going for...my bad. No, that's what I was going for. I think Tippia and I would both prefer it if miners got off their asses and hunted people down instead of creating these threads ad nauseum. It *would* make for a pleasant change. 
Every now and again, I see a thread where one of the rock killers changes coat and becomes a hunter of men. It's rare, but highly celebrated when it happens.  |

Gaylord Fappington
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.09.16 17:02:00 -
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So as I jump in on page 9, I admit I am a little late to the party. It seems to be a party some of my handiwork created as well. To answer a couple of questions about how this all came to be:
You've seen my fit. I also use a fit with ions and a point sometimes. I don't use implants. I always overheat.
The thing no one is considering when trying to calculate my DPS is that I have something far more powerful than implants in my head; my love for The Code. Every barge I fire on has the power of not just my guns, but the soul of the whole New Order exiting the barrels in a fiery report and hurtling in their direction. That is never going to show up on a killmail, but I feel it with every salvo.
Piekura knows me pretty well. Sometimes when the ice belt spawns they put in a jamming ship. Most of my work is done alone, and when that jamming ship is there and the pilot is on the ball, I am 100% shut down in my ability to kill anything except my own ship. I am not complaining, this is how it should be . . . I should be able to have a reasonable crack at the miners and they should have a decent shot at stopping me if they chose to do so. I do and they do.
Game balanced. Was a fun weekend Piekura. I love this game. |

Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
111
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Posted - 2013.09.16 17:07:00 -
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SpoonRECKLESS wrote:why not afk mine and watch local. I mean avoid being ganked is easy.
you got a mobile local app or so? cause when im afk i really dont see local ever The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |

Dave Stark
3683
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Posted - 2013.09.16 17:15:00 -
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Lugalbandak wrote:SpoonRECKLESS wrote:why not afk mine and watch local. I mean avoid being ganked is easy. you got a mobile local app or so? cause when im afk i really dont see local ever
even if he did, what difference would it make. if he's afk he can't do anything about it even if local shows a spike of 2000 hostiles. |

March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
752
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Posted - 2013.09.16 17:24:00 -
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posting in thread where kids brag about their "coolness" |

Druthlen
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2013.09.16 17:48:00 -
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Gaylord Fappington wrote:So as I jump in on page 9, I admit I am a little late to the party. It seems to be a party some of my handiwork created as well. To answer a couple of questions about how this all came to be:
You've seen my fit. I also use a fit with ions and a point sometimes. I don't use implants. I always overheat.
The thing no one is considering when trying to calculate my DPS is that I have something far more powerful than implants in my head; my love for The Code. Every barge I fire on has the power of not just my guns, but the soul of the whole New Order exiting the barrels in a fiery report and hurtling in their direction. That is never going to show up on a killmail, but I feel it with every salvo.
Piekura knows me pretty well. Sometimes when the ice belt spawns they put in a jamming ship. Most of my work is done alone, and when that jamming ship is there and the pilot is on the ball, I am 100% shut down in my ability to kill anything except my own ship. I am not complaining, this is how it should be . . . I should be able to have a reasonable crack at the miners and they should have a decent shot at stopping me if they chose to do so. I do and they do.
Game balanced. Was a fun weekend Piekura. I love this game.
This guy is like prince charming. You know he is the bad guy and very evil but he is so damn cool. I am a carebear miner but the danger this breed brings to the game keeps me logging in. Thank you. BTW Please dont teh gankers me11eee!! |

Soylent Jade
New Order Logistics CODE.
59
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Posted - 2013.09.16 19:48:00 -
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If people are quitting a game based around internet space ships blowing up because their internet space ship blew up, that's probably for the best. Making hisec better...one Catalyst at a time
minerbumping.com |

terrance Compton
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.09.16 20:10:00 -
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Gankers are parking boosting ships in systems which remain neutral making there pods almost impossible to catch. I would like to see these boosting ships become viable targets evening the playing field.
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Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
462
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Posted - 2013.09.16 20:42:00 -
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terrance Compton wrote: Gankers are parking boosting ships in systems which remain neutral making there pods almost impossible to catch. I would like to see these boosting ships become viable targets evening the playing field.
Don't like 'em? Gank 'em! |

Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
249
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Posted - 2013.09.16 21:02:00 -
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terrance Compton wrote: Gankers are parking boosting ships in systems which remain neutral making there pods almost impossible to catch. I would like to see these boosting ships become viable targets evening the playing field.
Why would you need a boosting ship when pods already take almost no time to warp. If done correctly, you will never lose a pod in highsec - boosts or not. I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC. -- TheGunslinger42 |

BoSau Hotim
uitraan diversified holdings incorporated
7014
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Posted - 2013.09.16 22:48:00 -
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OP why did you take down your OP?
We could turn this into a 'stop the afk miner' thread. But I don't want to. well.. maybe...
The fact for me is I don't care about afk miners or cloakers. But that is the risk taken if you decide to afk mine. I don't care that the isk value is vastly different. This is Eve a harsh world and I get weary of everyone trying to make it pansyland.
Frankly I'm not for 'let's even out the whole game because sometimes something happens and it's JUST NOT FAIR!!!
I hate it. So I'm not in agreement with your OP. We take a chance when we choose to gank a miner. We take a chance getting on your kb if you have your drones set to auto aggro, and we take a chance on you hiring mercs to wipe the walls with us. Only a Killright you say. Seriously you can hit someone where it really hurts with a Killright if you take the time to know your prey and actually make a plan, have some fun, and go use that KR. I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE!-á Now... where's Ken? |

Crimson Gauntlet
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.09.16 23:53:00 -
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My favorite part is where the 100+ million isk ship would be all but invincible if it's pilot were actually awake.
Because it shows what the carebears really want. They want to be unkillable when they aren't even playing the game. Number of times my posts have come in after the dev/mod locked the thread:-á 1 |

MeestaPenni
Nova Force
305
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Posted - 2013.09.16 23:59:00 -
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Crimson Gauntlet wrote:they aren't even playing the game.
For the life of me...I can't figure out why anyone gives a s**t.
I am not Prencleeve Grothsmore.
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Crimson Gauntlet
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.09.17 00:01:00 -
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MeestaPenni wrote:Crimson Gauntlet wrote:they aren't even playing the game. For the life of me...I can't figure out why anyone gives a s**t.
Out of context quoting means you're cool.
Oh, and I give a hoot because I am tired of all the complaining from someone who didn't even bother to attempt to defend themselves, how I shouldn't have been able to kill them in the first place. Last I checked, I didn't sign up for Hello Kitty Online Adventure. Number of times my posts have come in after the dev/mod locked the thread:-á 1 |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4565
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Posted - 2013.09.17 00:06:00 -
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Crimson Gauntlet wrote:MeestaPenni wrote:Crimson Gauntlet wrote:they aren't even playing the game. For the life of me...I can't figure out why anyone gives a s**t. Out of context quoting means you're cool. Oh, and I give a hoot because I am tired of all the complaining from someone who didn't even bother to attempt to defend themselves, how I shouldn't have been able to kill them in the first place. Last I checked, I didn't sign up for Hello Kitty Online Adventure. Maybe you need some "clarifications" as to how bad of a person you are. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Crimson Gauntlet
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.09.17 00:12:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Crimson Gauntlet wrote:MeestaPenni wrote:Crimson Gauntlet wrote:they aren't even playing the game. For the life of me...I can't figure out why anyone gives a s**t. Out of context quoting means you're cool. Oh, and I give a hoot because I am tired of all the complaining from someone who didn't even bother to attempt to defend themselves, how I shouldn't have been able to kill them in the first place. Last I checked, I didn't sign up for Hello Kitty Online Adventure. Maybe you need some "clarifications" as to how bad of a person you are.
Go for it. :P Number of times my posts have come in after the dev/mod locked the thread:-á 1 |
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