Guess we can all say you added something to wormhole space :-/

When we add content we should think about adding it to WH space also :) This is not supposed to be a huge WH feature, but they will get the best blueprint and it's worth mentioning they will be in WH space also as that is not always a given.

Appreciate it.

Let's hope they all return... Someday...

On another note, what constitutes the "slightly different" items? Or they just specifically the stuff for making these implants.

Also, requires a pos to build the implants or can they be made in a station?

Greetings,

I'm CCP Affinity from Team Kuromaku and we have been working on Ghost Sites for Rubicon. I will use this thread to answer questions as they start to appear on SISI and reveal information as we get closer to release.


What are Ghost Sites?

Ghost sites are a new, rare type of cosmic anomaly. They will appear on your system scanner and will be a new style of exploration site featuring fast paced hacking and combat.

Where will they be located?

Ghost Sites will be in ALL areas of space - including WH

What loot can I get in Ghost Sites?

Sites in each area of space will drop slightly different items, including blueprints for the first ever implant set to be manufactured by players. The blueprints and one of the required materials will be sourced from the Ghost Sites.

What are the Implants?

The new set of player manufactured pirate implants, called 'Ascendancy' implants will vastly improve your warp speed

Wrayeth; I'd say warp speeds got a massive buff. Depends on the class you fly, I guess. ;)

What are the Implants?

The new set of player manufactured pirate implants, called 'Ascendancy' implants will vastly improve your warp speed

I would like to propose a new title for running the 'ghost' sites. "GHOSTBUSTER'. Cheesy maybe but there I coined it.

So a Ghostbuster running Ghost Sites would have a Ghost Protocol, right?

Course that just might make it Mission : Impossible.





DMC

DMC;

There's already a warp speed implant. +5% to +18% -- Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Warp Drive Speed WS-6XX

And evidently there's also already a rig, too? I mean, CRAZY. Guess everyone just ignored it because the stat was so unimportant. :x


Affinity! Question for you! What's the total bonus from the full set?

What are Ghost Sites?

Ghost sites are a new, rare type of cosmic anomaly. They will appear on your system scanner and will be a new style of exploration site featuring fast paced hacking and combat.

When we add content we should think about adding it to WH space also :) This is not supposed to be a huge WH feature, but they will get the best blueprint and it's worth mentioning they will be in WH space also as that is not always a given.

Now you have done something to WH space (not forcefully excluded the systems from the "spawns in" list) , i think its save to say you can leave it alone for the next 15 year.

Everyone in WHs was starving for new pve content that is showing up on our favourite new tool the team trisomie 21 friendly discovery scanner.

You might want to think about adding local to WHs and gates that would improve wh space even more.

You fix graphical lag from clouds yet. (I didn't use a question mark because I know you haven't and never will)

While the sites sound cool, and the BPCs for the implants are going to be a neat step in the right direction for T2 implants, what other types of loot can we expect to see in these sites?

I say T2 implants because t1 are still a good isk sink from LP stores and should stay there for that very reason.

Have there been any changes to the hacking minigame?

DMC;

There's already a warp speed implant. +5% to +18% -- Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Warp Drive Speed WS-6XX

And evidently there's also already a rig, too? I mean, CRAZY. Guess everyone just ignored it because the stat was so unimportant. :x


Affinity! Question for you! What's the total bonus from the full set?

Greetings,

I'm CCP Affinity from Team Kuromaku and we have been working on Ghost Sites for Rubicon. I will use this thread to answer questions as they start to appear on SISI and reveal information as we get closer to release.


What are Ghost Sites?

Ghost sites are a new, rare type of cosmic anomaly. They will appear on your system scanner and will be a new style of exploration site featuring fast paced hacking and combat.

Where will they be located?

Ghost Sites will be in ALL areas of space - including WH

What loot can I get in Ghost Sites?

Sites in each area of space will drop slightly different items, including blueprints for the first ever implant set to be manufactured by players. The blueprints and one of the required materials will be sourced from the Ghost Sites.

What are the Implants?

The new set of player manufactured pirate implants, called 'Ascendancy' implants will vastly improve your warp speed

There are no clouds used in Ghost Sites and every content feature I iterate on or create contains no clouds. However, I am a content designer not a graphics programmer, so I can't fix graphical lag from clouds :)

a few questions:

define "fast paced hacking and combat"

is it tailored for big team of players

is it maybe for small group of 1-5 players?

will those sites scale with WH class (from 1 man sites in c1 to triage/dread fleet in c6)

how rare/abdundant You want those sites to make

will they appear in addition to existing sites or will they be just added to "spawn table" so overall sites in one WH system will be similar? I hope they are made as addition so we can have more things to do in WH

does all material needed for production of those impalnts be available in WH or do we need materials from diffrent types of space (i.e. can we produce them in WH or do we have to move stuff from hi sec into wh first)

so basically, you are introducing a brand new feature that was in fact an old feature you deleted in the previous patch? and you want us to applaud?

where did i saw that earlier....oh yeah, the hurricane, nerf it, then introduce brand new cane fleet which is the old cane witha x3 price tag....

and in the meantime, crazy bugs still won't get fixed like the server tick / the overview / local tag refresment / broken grids....

sorry to sound so bitter, but yeah....that is what almost all the annoucements for the last 3 patches makes me feel....

What are Ghost Sites?

Ghost sites are a new, rare type of cosmic anomaly

Does this mean they will only require the on-board scanner to find, and won't need to be probed down?

I am super excited about this one. Especially because these things gonna be in whs :)

Lloyd; nothing about corpses yet. ;)

Affinity;

So. I'm trying to think of where these will see use, outside of convenience-- and the obvious use cases seem to be freighters (between this and the Rogue set, they can probably hit ~2.72 au/s if they're motivated, though for the discerning freighter pilot Slaves might be better for anti-gank hilarity), and interceptor pilots for truly insane arrival speeds. The trick is-- if these end up anywhere near the cost of existing pirate implants, will that dissuade pilots from using them?

Which is to say-- people buy expensive implants when they specifically speak to the strengths of a ship, and expand those needs. Couching this new PvE's desirability on a single (admittedly powerful, but niche) implant series may be risky, given that for the heavy spenders there will often be more relevant implants. Perhaps it might not be a bad idea to do two or three implant series?

Also: what NPC types will be in these sites? Sleeper-based, or...?

It's tailored to be run solo if you want to but to allow for disruption gameplay. It may be beneficial to take a team with you, but there will be nothing in the site that forces you to take a group of be at a disadvantage.

Fast paced just means perhaps it is in your best interests to not stick around for too long...

The highest level of site will be in WH space, but they won't scale with class

The sites will be rare enough that if you happen to be lucky and spot one, it is worth your while to drop what you are doing and go to the site

They will be an addition

All materials needed for production will not be available in WH space - no single area of space will have everything they need without moving stuff

Content Designers don't work on lag, overview, broken grids :)

So, what exactly Content Designers do for Eve?

When we add content we should think about adding it to WH space also :) This is not supposed to be a huge WH feature, but they will get the best blueprint and it's worth mentioning they will be in WH space also as that is not always a given.

Does this mean they will only require the on-board scanner to find, and won't need to be probed down?

I this a newly announced feature? I don't recall reading anything about this in the features and ideas discussion section.

Any clue on the difficulty of ghost sites in wormholes?

Can they be capital escalated in C5/6s? Like radar and mag sites can.
Is loot different in anyway between W-space and K-space?

So what exactly did you work on for last 2 years? Because nothing new was introduced in term of content and environment and what was released consisted basically of attributes shifting (rebalance / tiercide team), artsy stuff (art team), sounds/music (audio team), few old hulls in new colors.

In the meantime lowsec pvp focal points were removed (static 2/10 DEDs), exploration switched into "go where lights are blinking and click on dots then grab whatever pinata spews on you", probing got broken on many levels from basic stuff up to meta level because apparently devs don't play their own game or even test for regressions. Oh, and you still didn't solve spaghetti code since what, 5 years ago? So no new POS system, no new corp management, no overview or d-scan revamp, no new anything.

So, what exactly Content Designers do for Eve?

It's good to see new content. I look forward to even more new stuff

I think what he means is that wormholes need some serious love all the way around and specifically in terms of security within corps and we got an entire team of devs working on a useless feature that no one would give two ***** about had you not just announced it.

so to recap, fuckfuck this shitshit.

When we add content we should think about adding it to WH space also :) This is not supposed to be a huge WH feature, but they will get the best blueprint and it's worth mentioning they will be in WH space also as that is not always a given.

Is the best bpc WH-only or is it that it also spawns in WH space?

Yes, just the on-board scanner

Since these sites are to be located in all areas.
Please consider changing the Ghost sites to require probing them out in order to warp to them.
The rewards seem to have value. I think the difficultly level, logistically speaking should be high as well, in addition to the combat and hacking challenges.

Last 2 years... I think incursion rebalance, tutorial overhaul, FW overhaul inc missions and sites, exploration and now ghost sites. Even if I hadn't done these sites I still would not do a POS system, corp management, overview etc.. you are looking for a programmer to speak to about those :)

Strongly agree. If it needs to be probed, it will make the items found in these sites rarer, thus more profitable for those of us that did exploration before it was made easier.

Implant set is ill timed. The effects of the warp speed changes on the pvp meta are still unknown. Introducing a warpspeed pirate set at the same time has the potential to create a game breaking defect.

Why is this a high-grade set? The minor factions only got LG sets since - official explanation at the time - this was their first venture into advanced implant technology. Now the first player built implant will start as a HG t2 implant set?

Will the implant BPCs have proper skill requirements or the usual "well, here you go, Industry I. Congratulations, you can now produce 75% of everything that exists?" ******* the production profession had to endure over the last decade?

Lets keep this on topic :) I will use this thread to answer questions or concerns you have about ghost sites or the new implant set

This new set of implants, will it be like the other Pirate Implant sets that have an attribute bonus?

And will there be an extra Hardwiring Implant to go with the set to increase the primary bonus to warp speed?


DMC

Why is this a high-grade set? The minor factions only got LG sets since - official explanation at the time - this was their first venture into advanced implant technology. Now the first player built implant will start as a HG t2 implant set?

Now that the off topic issue has been addressed, maybe my questions about the Implant set could be answered now?


Specifically I'd like to know if an attribute bonus is included and how much of an increase does it include.

Where did you get this information? Link please.

If it's true, then these implants probably won't be used by the majority of the playerbase.



DMC

The design intentions are not to have high level entry point content for experienced players. The sites will be timed, the first player to enter sets off the trigger and the site timer trigger will be random. Sometimes you will have 5 minutes in the site... sometimes 20 and lots of variations in between. They are meant to be rare distribution, fast paced sites that are accessible to everyone in the system they appear in.

Sorry, I must have missed your post :)
Yes they will be like the other pirate sets with an attribute bonus but we don't have final numbers yet
No hardwiring planned for now
We haven't announced any more about them yet :)

Oh well. Are there any plans for old fogeys like us? :)

Thank you so much for your timely response. I'm unaccustomed to such punctuality on these forums.

I have two questions:

1) Why did you decide that EVE really needs this?

2) Why did you decide that EVE needs this more than complete PvE or mining redesign to make those activities interesting?

Sorry, I must have missed your post :)
Yes they will be like the other pirate sets with an attribute bonus but we don't have final numbers yet
No hardwiring planned for now
We haven't announced any more about them yet :)

The design intentions are not to have high level entry point content for experienced players. The sites will be timed, the first player to enter sets off the trigger and the site timer trigger will be random. Sometimes you will have 5 minutes in the site... sometimes 20 and lots of variations in between. They are meant to be rare distribution, fast paced sites that are accessible to everyone in the system they appear in.

[quote=DeMichael Crimson]
No hardwiring planned for now

Thanks for the reply.

In my opinion since LG Pirate sets have +2 to Attributes, the Ascendancy implants should have the same attribute bonus as well.





So let me get this straight.

Besides having to do a time consuming mini hacking game and chasing down random despawning loot spew containers while engaging hostile NPC's, the site itself will also include a random despawn timer that's activated when a player first lands on-grid?

Let's not forget there's a very high chance of unfriendly players showing up as well, especially in w-space, low sec and null sec. Well, null sec is more like high sec so they don't have to worry about it too much. That means the player will also have to spam D-scan and watch local as well.

Basically a Fleet with logistics will be needed just to complete these sites. To me this sounds more like an Incursion site than an Exploration site.

Correct me if I'm wrong but exploration is mainly conducted as a solo profession, not a fleet opp. Guess us old solo explorers won't be able to enjoy this new content.




DMC

I am so glad to hear there is no scattering.

Is that something that is that may be considered for data and relic sites too? I know the scattering mechinac offset with a larger loot table to keep the solo income the same at the time, but now it has completely crashed the exploration market.

Last 2 years... I think incursion rebalance, tutorial overhaul, FW overhaul inc missions and sites, exploration and now ghost sites. Even if I hadn't done these sites I still would not do a POS system, corp management, overview etc.. you are looking for a programmer to speak to about those :)

That is exactly my point: you cannot rebalance things and call it new content. Rebalancing means restoring balance so basically attributes of existing things shifted left and right until they match each other and some threshold.

Tutorial is a content for what, first 15 minutes in Eve?

FW is farmville, spinning around button is not exactly groundbreaking feature.

And don't tell me you made new content for exploration because what you did there was raising the curtain and saying "look, here it is".

And ghost sites took you all time since Odyssey? Wow, I really need to see those - after half a year of work they must be pure ossum.
That meeting concluded with "hacking and rats and loot is bpc for implants players can make" had to be real brainstorming session.

There is no new content in Eve for a long time, what CCP gives us are refurbished and fixed old things. And that fixing is not even done by you so you are not part of solution...

All materials needed for production will not be available in WH space - no single area of space will have everything they need without moving stuff

The sites do not have scattering - they are lootable containers after they are hacked. Hacking and scattering are two different mechanics :)

Thanks again for the reply.

OK, so no loot spew. Definitely a good step and positive point for these new Hacking sites.

Players still have to do the mini hacking game click fest and engage hostile npc's at the same time while trying to complete the site within a random time frame before it despawns as well as watch out for unfriendly players via D-scan spam.

Still gonna need a fleet with logistics support to complete these sites.




DMC



EDIT:

Guess what I'm really asking is will I be able to complete these sites solo in my Loki?

The NPCs do not spawn until the timer expires so yes, I don't see why you couldn't :)

Secondly, consider making looting one of the containers in these sites a Crimewatch yellow card offense. This will drive real conflict in highsec and make these sites play very, very differently to anything else in empire.
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Absolutely - this could be a first step to making highsec a little more interesting.

Where did you get this information? Link please.

If it's true, then these implants probably won't be used by the majority of the playerbase.

Yes, just the on-board scanner

Not for this release but we still have plans to iterate on this as soon as we can.

Are you kidding? I thought you meant this as a joke to start off with but you're seriously just adding it in as an anomaly aren't you?

I read your comment about having it easily accessible to all players and ever since the latest scanning changes I've felt that the months training my scanning skills have been wasted since it's so easy to scan signatures now.. no reward for those that have refined their scanning skills to scan down the hard sites.

So what you're saying.. on top of the above, you're just going to throw these new rare sites out there for people to see as soon as they jump in to a system? Instead of rewarding the players that actually spend time scanning and playing their game regularly? What a slap to the face this is.

Yep... thanks for this. I'm looking forward to getting home tonight and NOT playing EVE. Which is becoming a more common occurrence for me as of late.

I would like to know which module type will be required for the hacking in the sites. Will it be the data or relic analyzer? Or maybe both? Will cans explode when you fail twice aswell like it is now?

Nonsense. Make them anomalies, apply a suspect flag when looting containers, watch the Mexican standoffs. Why should high value loot be risk free? This is the start of a new market (player-made implants) and it should be done right.

I don't smoke. It's bad for you. And what do you mean "there are already sites that do thid". I wasn't aware of any sites that give you a suspect flag when you hack them.

I am more interested in opportunities for player interactions

Site ninjas? I mean for the person who actually hacks the thing. You know, the one who gets the isk and should therefore have the risk.

I really like this idea :)

Actually it will not drive conflict in high sec. It will just be content that gets ignored by the vast majority of high sec players. To see this CCP Affinity, ask someone to look up how many expeditions that start in high sec but go to low sec are actually completed.

What on earth are you SMOKING?!?! There is this already for Kspace combat sites that get this... have to be scanned down.

These super rare awesome etc etc sites however, can just be found and warped to by all the noobies thus making any veteran and his alt miss out.

Why doesn't CCP have any loyalty for the players that have stuck with the game all these years and spent time training for all the modules/ships/abilities that have been destroyed in all the rebalancing?? They just want all this alluring new content smacking all the potential young payers in the face when they undock from their station.

You might as well just remove probes altogether and add a new scanning module that you activate and it slowly but surely scans down all the wormholes, in the mean time have an auto site find & run button for all the noobs to press which takes them to a site and automatically runs it for them.

Amazin'

Actually it will not drive conflict in high sec. It will just be content that gets ignored by the vast majority of high sec players. To see this CCP Affinity, ask someone to look up how many expeditions that start in high sec but go to low sec are actually completed.

Actually it will not drive conflict in high sec. It will just be content that gets ignored by the vast majority of high sec players. To see this CCP Affinity, ask someone to look up how many expeditions that start in high sec but go to low sec are actually completed.

There is no new content in Eve for a long time

And for those that wish to take advantage of this all they have to do is warp in after the site spawns, cloak up, wait for player x to come in and open a can, uncloak, gank expensive ship. The rage will be amazing.

If CCP don't make these sites sigs, I hope they do the above game breaking mechanic for bears everywhere.

What is an expedition in this context?

I think it would get used. The lure of the loot would be too great. Such sites would get people used to aggression and weapons timers, getting their pods to safety - the basics required for being comfortable with low in the relative safety of high.

Affinity has said the loot needed to build the implants will be spread around different sec space with the best blueprint dropping in WH - so its premature to get worked up that a noob finding one of these rare anoms in highsec is going to out-win EVE, compared to older characters who will be finding the best stuff in null and WH, just like they always do.

The sites do not have scattering - they are lootable containers after they are hacked. Hacking and scattering are two different mechanics :)

Affinity has said the loot needed to build the implants will be spread around different sec space with the best blueprint dropping in WH - so its premature to get worked up that a noob finding one of these rare anoms in highsec is going to out-win EVE, compared to older characters who will be finding the best stuff in null and WH, just like they always do.

OK, since CCP is threathening to moderate the thread now (aka shutting down the dissonant voices that ask for some entertaining stuff for their cash), I will stay on topic. (BTW CCP desperately trying to silence protests sounds earily like the months leading up to the Summer of Rage. Just saying.)

About this stuff you are creating:
These sites are mediocre, they are too easily accesible and they are basically the same as the plexes we had before. Also they provide items that we only need to fix a mechanic that CCP broke on purpose. So bad, bad, bad.

Be more creative, stop handing out cookies to players who lack skills, stop breaking stuff and stop presenting this stuff as content while it is only a bandaid for stuff that is broken elsewhere.

I would like to know which module type will be required for the hacking in the sites. Will it be the data or relic analyzer? Or maybe both? Will cans explode when you fail twice aswell like it is now?

My understanding of the drops from posts so far is that the implant set will be somewhat similar to this:

Blueprints:
- Alpha in highsec only
- Beta in high and low
- Gamma in low only
- Delta in low, non-sov null and sov null
- Epsilon in non-sov null and sov null
- Omega in WHs only

Plus there will be requirements for both standard materials some unique materials that only come from these sites.

Want a full set? You can't get it an any single type of space, and the most dangerous* space has the better implants. Highsec explorers will get heaps of the BPCs of the alphas and betas, the others will be quite a bit rarer.


* Sovereign nullsec is arguably safer than lowsec, but that's just the way it is.

Can we has lore please?
Who are the ghosts? Why Is their technology increasing our warp capabilities? Are they awakened infomorphs? Why are these sites appearing throughout known and unknown space?

I want to know their secrets

Hi CCP Affinity

Will this site require either hacking module or analysing module (so hacking skill or archaeology skill) ?

hello there CCP Affinity .

i don't do sites so i won't comment on that part;

what i will comment on is the implant set and the time when this set will become available:

atm, on test server small ships are warping so fast, that the d- scan is becoming almost worthless;
there are several topics right on this subforum, where ppl are complaining that small tackle just "pop" right next to your ship, at about the same time they appear on your d-scaner, or even faster in some cases;

so, adding such an implant set, right at this moment will imbalance things even more?!
now, if someone at CCP considered this scenario, and concluded this is a good thing for eve, i can live with that.
but i'm more inclined to think that that noone did, since this change is a bad one, esp for wh space, where d- scan is one of the most important surviving tools ppl have

both the warp speeds and implants are still being balanced :)

The current total bonus to warp speed is 53.6% with all 6 slots (Alpha-Omega)

Can we has lore please?
Who are the ghosts? Why Is their technology increasing our warp capabilities? Are they awakened infomorphs? Why are these sites appearing throughout known and unknown space?

I want to know their secrets

either will work :)

Are Ghost sites added to Drone Space?

Good morning all!

I wanted to chime in on the implant set.

• The set will follow the standard pirate high-grade sets.
• All implants will provide a +3 in their respective Character Attribute.
• We chose high-grades over low-grades due to the rarity level we wanted them to be at
• The ingredients will be a mix of PI materials, some trit and items dropped from the ghost sites
• The implants can be manufactured in all stations that have manufacturing lines and in Equipment Assembly Arrays
• The current total bonus to warp speed is 53.6% with all 6 slots (Alpha-Omega)
• The current stats might not be the final numbers as we want to look at over-all speeds and make sure it's not breaking something unexpected. (Everything is still WIP obviously)

Overall I believe this implant set will be a nice additional choice for you to make, but we obviously want to make sure things aren't breaking.

CCP Fear

Thanks for answer! (and grats for keeping with the thread!)

One more question.

It was said in the thread that NPC spawn will happen after ~5-20m from entering the site. It was also said that it will be only possible to try to hack a can once (and KABOM). Are you going to put several cans in one site, or is there a iteration to the hacking mechanic which will force us to stay on grid when NPC spawns? (currently hacking a can ONCE takes much less time than 5m)

Or did I miss something?

Thx for the info.

Three questions:

1. Why did you decide not to make it probable? With the introduction of easy-peasy scanning it shouldn't be a big issue and add a little spice / difficulty.
2. So either module will open the cans, I won't need both of em (relic/data)?
3. Will the high-grades only be available in WH or also in 0.0?

Thx in advance, always love new stuff

We are in the process of redesigning our 10 year old content/universe tools and we spent most of this release working on the redesign of the tools, which will be an ongoing process. Alongside that we decided to also release a small content site. Obviously there are many areas of EVE PvE that need an overhaul but trying to do a major system overhaul while updating tools would be terrible.

1. We may introduce similar content in the future with higher rewards that requires scanning but for now we decided to use the system scanner for this particular site
2. Either module will open the containers in Ghost Sites
3. the top implant BP will only be available in WH sites but there will be others only available in 0.0

these make inties warp speed massively OP inties warp speed is too good now

OK, since CCP is threathening to moderate the thread now (aka shutting down the dissonant voices that ask for some entertaining stuff for their cash), I will stay on topic. (BTW CCP desperately trying to silence protests sounds earily like the months leading up to the Summer of Rage. Just saying.)

About this stuff you are creating:
These sites are mediocre, they are too easily accesible and they are basically the same as the plexes we had before. Also they provide items that we only need to fix a mechanic that CCP broke on purpose. So bad, bad, bad.

Be more creative, stop handing out cookies to players who lack skills, stop breaking stuff and stop presenting this stuff as content while it is only a bandaid for stuff that is broken elsewhere.

Thx a lot, diversity in activity in Eve is always a good thing. One final question, will there be a filter option or a distinction colour-wise to seperate this particular site from regular sigs?

I would like to say thank you for working on new PVE content... i am happy to here you have new back room tools that should allow not only enhancements to current PVE conent but all the addition of new content!

big high five from me!

hello there CCP Affinity .

i don't do sites so i won't comment on that part;

what i will comment on is the implant set and the time when this set will become available:

atm, on test server small ships are warping so fast, that the d- scan is becoming almost worthless;
there are several topics right on this subforum, where ppl are complaining that small tackle just "pop" right next to your ship, at about the same time they appear on your d-scaner, or even faster in some cases;

so, adding such an implant set, right at this moment will imbalance things even more?!
now, if someone at CCP considered this scenario, and concluded this is a good thing for eve, i can live with that.
but i'm more inclined to think that that noone did, since this change is a bad one, esp for wh space, where d- scan is one of the most important surviving tools ppl have

So the implants give a 53.6% increase in warp speed. Im not really sure how the new warp acceleration works but my question is: does this affect warp acceleration as well or just warp speed?
In other words: is warp acceleration proportional to the ship type or the warp speed? i.e. do warp speed rigs and implants also affect acceleration or is it just a new fixed number for each ship class?

Two questions.

First, will the can blow up (or otherwise be inaccessible) when the spawn happens? Can I hack it while the spawn is present, if I can tank the spawn? Can I trigger the site, wait around 20 minutes, then fly in and kill everything, and then hack the can?

Second, what sort of spawn is it? I live in wspace; we make most of our living off of killing sleepers. My assumption is that the spawn will be of the already-known sleeper types, such that it will be equally profitable as those types in current PVE sites. (Please correct that if I am wrong.) Will the spawn be relatively nasty for the wspace level (like a radar site)? Will it be easy for the wspace level (like gas/rocks)? Or it will it be comparable to an anom at that level?

stfu and hrtfu... i hate entitled players like you!

When the NPCs appear, the cans will explode (and potentially do damage to nearby player ships)

They will be pirate spawns with no bounty - not NPCs there for farming

Another quick question: the cans will be scannable ?

Yes, they will.

Will they have normal loot and salvage? Specifically, for sleepers: will you implement a new type of sleeper (or perhaps a flag on existing types) that disables the normal generation of blue loot?

I don't see any problem with farming them, except that you seem to intend otherwise. Can you explain what the reasoning is?

They will have no loot - they will be standard pirate NPCs with no bounty or loot. The sites are freely available to everyone with a chance of very valuable loot - thematically the NPCs are there to stop you getting access to the loot and would rather blow up the containers than have you receive anything. When the timer expires, the NPCs will appear and a minute or two later the cans will explode - if you wish to take your chances and tank the NPCs to give yourself an extra few minutes to continue hacking then that is a choice you will have to make knowing that if they damage you too much, the exploding can may kill you.

because one of the rampant issue in eve is the inflation caused by bigger and bigger faucets

Yes, was announced at EVE Vegas

Good morning all!

I wanted to chime in on the implant set.


The set will follow the standard pirate high-grade sets.
All implants will provide a +3 in their respective Character Attribute.
We chose high-grades over low-grades due to the rarity level we wanted them to be at
The ingredients will be a mix of PI materials, some trit and items dropped from the ghost sites
The implants can be manufactured in all stations that have manufacturing lines and in Equipment Assembly Arrays
The current total bonus to warp speed is 53.6% with all 6 slots (Alpha-Omega)
The current stats might not be the final numbers as we want to look at over-all speeds and make sure it's not breaking something unexpected. (Everything is still WIP obviously)



Overall I believe this implant set will be a nice additional choice for you to make, but we obviously want to make sure things aren't breaking.

CCP Fear

Implant set is ill timed. The effects of the warp speed changes on the pvp meta are still unknown. Introducing a warpspeed pirate set at the same time has the potential to create a game breaking defect.

Why is this a high-grade set? The minor factions only got LG sets since - official explanation at the time - this was their first venture into advanced implant technology. Now the first player built implant will start as a HG t2 implant set?

Will the implant BPCs have proper skill requirements or the usual "well, here you go, Industry I. Congratulations, you can now produce 75% of everything that exists?" ******* the production profession had to endure over the last decade?

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what will be the isk sink to match the isk faucet those sites will create?

because one of the rampant issue in eve is the inflation caused by bigger and bigger faucets

There will be no ISK createt from this sites as you sell the items to players and not to npc's

there is still isk entering the system from a source not a player, theres no isk sink inherently attached, but i can imagine people losing these will be costly.

They will have no loot - they will be standard pirate NPCs with no bounty or loot. The sites are freely available to everyone with a chance of very valuable loot - thematically the NPCs are there to stop you getting access to the loot and would rather blow up the containers than have you receive anything. When the timer expires, the NPCs will appear and a minute or two later the cans will explode - if you wish to take your chances and tank the NPCs to give yourself an extra few minutes to continue hacking then that is a choice you will have to make knowing that if they damage you too much, the exploding can may kill you.

what will be the isk sink to match the isk faucet those sites will create?

because one of the rampant issue in eve is the inflation caused by bigger and bigger faucets

They will have no loot - they will be standard pirate NPCs with no bounty or loot. The sites are freely available to everyone with a chance of very valuable loot - thematically the NPCs are there to stop you getting access to the loot and would rather blow up the containers than have you receive anything. When the timer expires, the NPCs will appear and a minute or two later the cans will explode - if you wish to take your chances and tank the NPCs to give yourself an extra few minutes to continue hacking then that is a choice you will have to make knowing that if they damage you too much, the exploding can may kill you.

Pirates in WH??? I hope there is some good lore explanation for this, otherwise it will not make sense

Then... why isn't this thread in the Features and Ideas Discussion section where all the other new features had their debut threads posted? Having not seen the Eve Vegas announcement, If I had not come to the Test Server Feedback section I would have completely missed out on hearing about this new feature and it's discussion. Is this feature already running on Sisi? Why is this thread in the Test Server Feedback section?



New items? Perhaps unique to the Ghost Sites?
This would appeal to me.
I enjoy manufacturing odd/unique/niche things with odd/unique/niche materials.
It was why manufacturing storyline/cosmos items appealed to me greatly at first, until I found out I could only procure the BPC's through a mission once. I just don't feel like quite the intrepid explorer and artificer when I have to get the special BPC from... someone else through contracts :\

With unique ingredients I would very much look forward to building these but...



I think Mioelnir makes a damning point here.

i understand not having bounties due to isk faucet...

but there should be some sort of drops....

how about brining back alloys mixed with tags?

that way i can get commoditites wich can be traded for isk but no fresh isk added to the game.

i mean even when you do missions and fight navies there are drops and tags.

edit:

you can even make the drops from the npc's be components for manufacturing of the new items.

so npc drops components for manufacturing

the hacking site drops the BPC's...

Pirates in WH??? I hope there is some good lore explanation for this, otherwise it will not make sense

Is it part of the Kspace?

I have been working with CCP Abraxas and there will be a very good lore explanation for everything surrounding these sites and more :)

There will be multiple containers in each site - 4 of them!
The timer will be random so you never know when the NPCs will arrive so you will take a chance with each container

In my view the moneymaking balance between conquerable 0.0 and wormholes is too skewed towards WH, and I think it's a mistake to continue that.