Assuming that you are right

What is the constant bumping of this thread supposed to achieve?

Given there are at least three strongly differing points of view in this thread but only a small number of posters, why would action be taken by CCP based on what they may or may not read here?

Given the very very few of even GD who post here now, where is the support for whatever this thread is supposed to make happen in the general community, if that is indeed how the community gets CCP to change things for them?

The dev response already exists and it's: Not gonna happen anytime soon.
Official. Last time i remember it being said was on fanfest. No, wait, by CCP Rise in his AMA.

The official word is out, but nobody cares to listen or accept it.

Did the term oxymoron confuse or offend you in some way?

Inaccurate representation of previous statements and questions

No, wait, by CCP Rise in his AMA.

The official word is out, but nobody cares to listen or accept it.

CCP Rise's opinion voiced during his reddit IamA was reasonable, but just because the focus is mainly on the spaceship game does not mean that nobody here has an interest to make meaningful Avatar gameplay within the EVE universe happen. (-:

The CSM, an organisation literally picked by the playerbase to represent their collective concerns, were flown to Reykjavik to discuss the post-Incarna fallout with CCP's management face to face.

Its like you're not even trying.

I was only confused by your newly skinned scalp and soulless eyes, did sansha get his hands on you?

Don't assume Rise represents the entire companies views.

Given the election process, they're actually voted in by the alliances since the alliances are able to pick a CSM candidate and then have all their alliance buds and alts and pet poodles vote for their puppet and down-vote anyone they don't want on the CSM.

Take Goons for example, 34,000 members x their alts vs a few disorganized people who foolishly put their hands up, if they even hear about the election at all...

Its a farce.

Are you capable of anything but ad hominem attacks?

You're the magic man... Slam dunked that right down their throats :)

Calling your grammar bad isn't an ad hominem. I don't see any ad hominem's in that post.

In all fairness, calling somebody out for their grammatical errors isn't exactly a debate-winning strategy, dude. It's really just petty and misses the point.

Argue against the intent of the arguments, not the mistakes in how they were phrased.

Damn all that democracy!

It is, actually.

In all fairness, calling somebody out for their grammatical errors isn't exactly a debate-winning strategy, dude. It's really just petty and misses the point.

Argue against the intent of the arguments, not the mistakes in how they were phrased.

In all fairness, calling somebody out for their grammatical errors isn't exactly a debate-winning strategy, dude. It's really just petty and misses the point.

Argue against the intent of the arguments, not the mistakes in how they were phrased.

When you can't see what the intent of the argument is because the grammar isn't good enough, then it might be worth mentioning. If I had answered what I assumed they meant without first saying that I wasn't sure what they meant, the argument doesn't go very well. In this instance, it was a necessity.

I see that the person that doesn't actually care about WiS is back to keep spreading hatred and hypocrisy.

Vidua. Opposition noted.

In the real world we call rigging elections, electoral fraud :)

In the real world we call rigging elections, electoral fraud :)

Balductum.

How is getting like minded people to vote "riogging"? The only way to rig an election like this is hacking.

It is in EVE as in real life, the people who lose an election can't ever accept that they lost and blame everything else but the weakness of their platform and the apathy of people who would have voted like them. it's not the alliances fault that the disorganized (and likely imaginary) masses of high sec won't vote.

It's kind of the same thing here, people are willing to talk (about something that the powers that be have repeatedly said no to), but when someone actually offers a plan that could lead to actual development, no one is interested. I'm willing to bet that the majority of WiS supporters tend to be full time high sec only residents as well.

Hence why we are discussing this (what, 3rd?) attempt by a company to produce a 40k MMO that will not manage to enrage some portion or other of the firmly established and intrenched player and fanbase of that IP.

Because intellectual property in infinitely malleable, right?

With 35,000 members an alliance wide email asking people to vote with their mains, alts and alt accounts will of course wipe out any opposition that isn't equally organized.

That's not democratic, that's more plutocratic.

Because the way it is setup its guaranteed to result in an alliance representative rather than anyone else. With 35,000 members an alliance wide email asking people to vote with their mains, alts and alt accounts will of course wipe out any opposition that isn't equally organized.

That's not democratic, that's more plutocratic. The richest people in the game are guaranteed a spot on the CSM and everyone else is shafted.

A fair system would be a random selection out of the candidates who choose to run.

You ever wonder why nobody takes the CSM seriously?

How is organizing not democratic?