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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
2196
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Posted - 2014.02.03 19:17:00 -
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Basil Pupkin wrote:baltec1 wrote:Actually I did use the high end with anoms which is 90 mil, not 70 mil which is what most get. CCP nerfed everything that gave us higher results.
As you can see, 90 mil/hr is lower than 118 mil/hr which high sec level 4s have been shown to give in this thread. One faction drop and you're suddenly 300mil/hr. And don't deny it, we're talking top anoms, and top anoms have that. And 118 mil/hr is absolute best for hisec, with luck, assumptions and 108mil SP character. Your anoms can be cleared with the same speed at 10% of the SP and cost.
Don't get sucked up in this conversation about ISK/hour with these people. It will lead to nothing good. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
3954
|
Posted - 2014.02.03 19:20:00 -
[2252] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:admiral root wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:admiral root wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Sorry, just could not resist laughing at your ego  Where's the ego in the post you quoted? The, 'I am a scientist', bit, It is totally irrelevant. Is "Irrelevant" in any way a synonym for "egotistical"? Lordy -easy version for you dear sir, he stated that he was a scientist, to try to give weight/gravitas to his opinions. Over and out.
Kind of like all those, 'i arz a rl lawyer soz i no for realz' guys that think it'll actually mean something and add weight to their pathetic attempts at data manipulation.
Mr Epeen  There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Notorious Fellon
Republic University Minmatar Republic
177
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Posted - 2014.02.03 19:21:00 -
[2253] - Quote
admiral root wrote:Notorious Fellon wrote:No, anoms are not "in place of" anything. There are anoms in all areas of EVE. Compare those. If you were asking for level 6 missions I doubt you would hear so much resistance. But asking for a nerf based on a ridiculous comparison won't get you much support. Are you suggesting there are sanctums, havens and forsaken hubs in highsec? Are you suggesting that there are anoms in highsecc that even remotely compare to them? I didn't think so. Combat level 4 missions are generally battleship-heavy, as are the anoms I mentioned. They might not be exactly equal, but as someone who's extensively done both they're reasonably similar in terms of content and difficulty.
No, I am not claiming there are Sanctums in hisec. No clue where you got that idea.
I am claiming that anoms in null are not comparable to missions in hisec inside a little box that ignores all other income sources.
It simply does not matter. Either compare equal activities, or compare the *complete* income streams. No cherry picking.
A smart nullsec player does not rely entirely on anoms and belt ratting, just like a smart hisec player does not rely on L4 missions only. To compare the two in an isolated box is silly.
It is not "proof" of anything except the odd desires of some nullseccers who want to nerf parts of the game others enjoy. |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10052
|
Posted - 2014.02.03 19:22:00 -
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Basil Pupkin wrote:
One faction drop and you're suddenly 300mil/hr. And don't deny it, we're talking top anoms, and top anoms have that. And 118 mil/hr is absolute best for hisec, with luck, assumptions and 108mil SP character. Your anoms can be cleared with the same speed at 10% of the SP and cost.
Faction drops are rare, hence why they are so expensive, they will not happen enough to make any difference. The high sec results are also not the most you can get, that was made with a BS with only 1 billion isk in fittings and no implants. You can do even better than that.
So no, as we can see high sec earns you more isk. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1551
|
Posted - 2014.02.03 19:25:00 -
[2255] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:admiral root wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Sorry, just could not resist laughing at your ego  Where's the ego in the post you quoted? The, 'I am a scientist', bit, It is totally irrelevant.
No its not because the fool was trying to tell me I don't understand scientific testing and data controls when I've literally made my career out of those. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |

Basil Pupkin
Why So Platypus
40
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Posted - 2014.02.03 19:28:00 -
[2256] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Basil Pupkin wrote:
One faction drop and you're suddenly 300mil/hr. And don't deny it, we're talking top anoms, and top anoms have that. And 118 mil/hr is absolute best for hisec, with luck, assumptions and 108mil SP character. Your anoms can be cleared with the same speed at 10% of the SP and cost.
Faction drops are rare, hence why they are so expensive, they will not happen enough to make any difference. The high sec results are also not the most you can get, that was made with a BS with only 1 billion isk in fittings and no implants. You can do even better than that. So no, as we can see high sec earns you more isk.
How is 40% earning at best is more ISK again? When you talk average anoms being 70-90, I must tell you that average missions are 30-35. Try Buzz Kill. 4 battleships and zomgwtfcrapload of elite frigs with 25k bounty. And it's about 3 times more common than extravaganzas and blockades combined. Anoms are harvestable in Oracles with not even 100mil in ship+fittings. 10% of your bs. And you're virtually safe from gankers being able to dock up on sight, you won't get anywhere near that level of safety in hisec mission hubs.
Another session of goon math and I will follow the advice of not responding to you. |

admiral root
Red Galaxy Disband.
769
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Posted - 2014.02.03 19:29:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Lordy -easy version for you dear sir, he stated that he was a scientist, to try to give weight/gravitas to his opinions.
Well, maybe he said it because it's true. I don't know and neither do you, but he doesn't post like an un-educated muppet.
Notorious Fellon wrote:admiral root wrote:Notorious Fellon wrote:No, anoms are not "in place of" anything. There are anoms in all areas of EVE. Compare those. If you were asking for level 6 missions I doubt you would hear so much resistance. But asking for a nerf based on a ridiculous comparison won't get you much support. Are you suggesting there are sanctums, havens and forsaken hubs in highsec? Are you suggesting that there are anoms in highsecc that even remotely compare to them? I didn't think so. Combat level 4 missions are generally battleship-heavy, as are the anoms I mentioned. They might not be exactly equal, but as someone who's extensively done both they're reasonably similar in terms of content and difficulty. No, I am not claiming there are Sanctums in hisec. No clue where you got that idea. I am claiming that anoms in null are not comparable to missions in hisec inside a little box that ignores all other income sources. It simply does not matter. Either compare equal activities, or compare the *complete* income streams. No cherry picking.
They are fairly comparable. There's no exact comparison. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Notorious Fellon
Republic University Minmatar Republic
177
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Posted - 2014.02.03 19:29:00 -
[2258] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Basil Pupkin wrote:
One faction drop and you're suddenly 300mil/hr. And don't deny it, we're talking top anoms, and top anoms have that. And 118 mil/hr is absolute best for hisec, with luck, assumptions and 108mil SP character. Your anoms can be cleared with the same speed at 10% of the SP and cost.
Faction drops are rare, hence why they are so expensive, they will not happen enough to make any difference. The high sec results are also not the most you can get, that was made with a BS with only 1 billion isk in fittings and no implants. You can do even better than that. So no, as we can see high sec earns you more isk.
"So no, as we can see high sec earns you more isk"
I thought you were only comparing L4 missions in hisec to Anoms in Null?
Would you like to revise your blanket statement?
|

Hell Ball
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2014.02.03 19:30:00 -
[2259] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Basil Pupkin wrote:
One faction drop and you're suddenly 300mil/hr. And don't deny it, we're talking top anoms, and top anoms have that. And 118 mil/hr is absolute best for hisec, with luck, assumptions and 108mil SP character. Your anoms can be cleared with the same speed at 10% of the SP and cost.
Faction drops are rare, hence why they are so expensive, they will not happen enough to make any difference. . ..............But they still happen tho............... |

admiral root
Red Galaxy Disband.
769
|
Posted - 2014.02.03 19:34:00 -
[2260] - Quote
Hell Ball wrote:baltec1 wrote: Faction drops are rare, hence why they are so expensive, they will not happen enough to make any difference. .
..............But they still happen tho...............
And plenty of those faction drops are tags and ammo, worth pennies. The last module I had drop was a 20 mil DG cloak. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10053
|
Posted - 2014.02.03 19:35:00 -
[2261] - Quote
Basil Pupkin wrote:
How is 40% earning at best is more ISK again? When you talk average anoms being 70-90, I must tell you that average missions are 30-35. Try Buzz Kill. 4 battleships and zomgwtfcrapload of elite frigs with 25k bounty. And it's about 3 times more common than extravaganzas and blockades combined. Anoms are harvestable in Oracles with not even 100mil in ship+fittings. 10% of your bs. And you're virtually safe from gankers being able to dock up on sight, you won't get anywhere near that level of safety in hisec mission hubs.
Another session of goon math and I will follow the advice of not responding to you.
Yet you yourself have seen that 100+ mil/hr happens in level 4 missions.
So who cares if some scrub can only drag a poorly fit raven through level 4s and only earns 30 mil? The point is that people like me are pulling in over 100 mil/hr in high sec while out in null we get at best 90 mil/hr and only when uninterrupted. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1554
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Posted - 2014.02.03 19:37:00 -
[2262] - Quote
Basil Pupkin wrote:
How is 40% earning at best is more ISK again? When you talk average anoms being 70-90, I must tell you that average missions are 30-35. Try Buzz Kill. 4 battleships and zomgwtfcrapload of elite frigs with 25k bounty. And it's about 3 times more common than extravaganzas and blockades combined. Anoms are harvestable in Oracles with not even 100mil in ship+fittings. 10% of your bs. And you're virtually safe from gankers being able to dock up on sight, you won't get anywhere near that level of safety in hisec mission hubs.
Another session of goon math and I will follow the advice of not responding to you.
You are wrong and you have not read the sheet. The average anomaly was ~29m.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing
Re-linked again, you highsec pubbies have no excuse for not reading it and continuing to spout your crap. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |

Basil Pupkin
Why So Platypus
42
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Posted - 2014.02.03 19:37:00 -
[2263] - Quote
Hell Ball wrote:baltec1 wrote:Basil Pupkin wrote:
One faction drop and you're suddenly 300mil/hr. And don't deny it, we're talking top anoms, and top anoms have that. And 118 mil/hr is absolute best for hisec, with luck, assumptions and 108mil SP character. Your anoms can be cleared with the same speed at 10% of the SP and cost.
Faction drops are rare, hence why they are so expensive, they will not happen enough to make any difference. . ..............But they still happen tho...............
And most of the time they're expensive due to being OP, not rare. Because non-OP ones have meh prices even with the same rarity. I believe new eden can accomodate 100 times more OP ones without a digit price drop. |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10055
|
Posted - 2014.02.03 19:38:00 -
[2264] - Quote
Hell Ball wrote: ..............But they still happen tho...............
The last two faction drops I have had dropped tags and ammo. I can count the number of dread spawns I have had in anoms in the last two years on one hand and the only mod of worth I got was the X-L shield booster which isn't worth a huge amount.
Most faction mods that drop are junk, so yea it might happen but its not going to make any difference to your isk/hr. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Basil Pupkin
Why So Platypus
42
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Posted - 2014.02.03 19:43:00 -
[2265] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Basil Pupkin wrote:
How is 40% earning at best is more ISK again? When you talk average anoms being 70-90, I must tell you that average missions are 30-35. Try Buzz Kill. 4 battleships and zomgwtfcrapload of elite frigs with 25k bounty. And it's about 3 times more common than extravaganzas and blockades combined. Anoms are harvestable in Oracles with not even 100mil in ship+fittings. 10% of your bs. And you're virtually safe from gankers being able to dock up on sight, you won't get anywhere near that level of safety in hisec mission hubs.
Another session of goon math and I will follow the advice of not responding to you.
Yet you yourself have seen that 100+ mil/hr happens in level 4 missions. So who cares if some scrub can only drag a poorly fit raven through level 4s and only earns 30 mil? The point is that people like me are pulling in over 100 mil/hr in high sec while out in null we get at best 90 mil/hr and only when uninterrupted.
"hisec dares to make 40% ISK of nullsec, nerf hisec". I am going to stop responding to you as promised. I have seen 300 mil/hr happen to anyone in null just for ratting there, as well as I've seen 100 mil/hr happen to lucky top corps L4 runner under the constant threat of a gank and at 10 times the expenses of null ratter.
La Nariz wrote:Basil Pupkin wrote:
How is 40% earning at best is more ISK again? When you talk average anoms being 70-90, I must tell you that average missions are 30-35. Try Buzz Kill. 4 battleships and zomgwtfcrapload of elite frigs with 25k bounty. And it's about 3 times more common than extravaganzas and blockades combined. Anoms are harvestable in Oracles with not even 100mil in ship+fittings. 10% of your bs. And you're virtually safe from gankers being able to dock up on sight, you won't get anywhere near that level of safety in hisec mission hubs.
Another session of goon math and I will follow the advice of not responding to you.
You are wrong and you have not read the sheet. The average anomaly was ~29m. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharingRe-linked again, you highsec pubbies have no excuse for not reading it and continuing to spout your crap.
Stop spreading your specgoonlations, they're baseless and you know it. I can make one with the Buzz Kill mission and get exactly 40% of that without speculating anyway though. Hear that, I don't even have to purposely lower my numbers. |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1556
|
Posted - 2014.02.03 19:46:00 -
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Basil Pupkin wrote:
Stop spreading your specgoonlations, they're baseless and you know it. I can make one with the Buzz Kill mission and get exactly 40% of that without speculating anyway though. Hear that, I don't even have to purposely lower my numbers.
I'm not spreading anything, I gave you a fit, I gave you a method, I gave the requisite skills and all the parameters you need to reproduce exactly what I did. Anyone who can get out there can verify it. You plugging your ears and chanting no isn't convincing anyone. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |

Tollen Gallen
Xionworld
5775
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Posted - 2014.02.03 19:47:00 -
[2267] - Quote
this thread..
I like Battleships. Zimmy Zeta - I f*cking love martinis. the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap. Carmen Electra - You are also on my block list. |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10058
|
Posted - 2014.02.03 19:48:00 -
[2268] - Quote
Basil Pupkin wrote:
"hisec dares to make 40% ISK of nullsec, nerf hisec". I am going to stop responding to you as promised. I have seen 300 mil/hr happen to anyone in null just for ratting there, as well as I've seen 100 mil/hr happen to lucky top corps L4 runner under the constant threat of a gank and at 10 times the expenses of null ratter.
300 mil/hr was what the old tracking titans were earning in anoms. That kind of income is impossible from anoms today. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
3955
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Posted - 2014.02.03 19:50:00 -
[2269] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Hell Ball wrote: ..............But they still happen tho...............
The last two faction drops I have had dropped tags and ammo. Most faction mods that drop are junk, so yea it might happen but its not going to make any difference to your isk/hr.
That's the same thinking that killed Diablo 3.
See, it's not about you and your bad luck. It's about the average of everyone that runs these things. Not everyone is as sadly lacking of good drops as you are.
Cherry picking one player's performance to bolster your argument is hardly meaningful of anything. Just a waste of forum space.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10058
|
Posted - 2014.02.03 19:54:00 -
[2270] - Quote
Mr Epeen wrote:baltec1 wrote:Hell Ball wrote: ..............But they still happen tho...............
The last two faction drops I have had dropped tags and ammo. Most faction mods that drop are junk, so yea it might happen but its not going to make any difference to your isk/hr. That's the same thinking that killed Diablo 3. See, it's not about you and your bad luck. It's about the average of everyone that runs these things. Not everyone is as sadly lacking of good drops as you are. Cherry picking one player's performance to bolster your argument is hardly meaningful of anything. Just a waste of forum space. Mr Epeen 
This from the people who have posted no evidence at all to back up their claims. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1556
|
Posted - 2014.02.03 19:55:00 -
[2271] - Quote
Mr Epeen wrote:baltec1 wrote:Hell Ball wrote: ..............But they still happen tho...............
The last two faction drops I have had dropped tags and ammo. Most faction mods that drop are junk, so yea it might happen but its not going to make any difference to your isk/hr. That's the same thinking that killed Diablo 3. See, it's not about you and your bad luck. It's about the average of everyone that runs these things. Not everyone is as sadly lacking of good drops as you are. Cherry picking one player's performance to bolster your argument is hardly meaningful of anything. Just a waste of forum space. Mr Highsec Pubbie 
We've got an entire forum devoted to the terrible drops an FSP will give you. Most people get crap, few people get good stuff hence why the price of the goods hasn't plummeted since the supply would be considerably higher if it was as all you highsec pubbies claim it is. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |

admiral root
Red Galaxy Disband.
770
|
Posted - 2014.02.03 19:55:00 -
[2272] - Quote
Mr Epeen wrote:See, it's not about you and your bad luck. It's about the average of everyone that runs these things. Not everyone is as sadly lacking of good drops as you are.
Ok, tell us about your faction drops in nullsec. The more the merrier (and the more accurate). No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4565
|
Posted - 2014.02.03 19:59:00 -
[2273] - Quote
La Nariz wrote:Basil Pupkin wrote:
How is 40% earning at best is more ISK again? When you talk average anoms being 70-90, I must tell you that average missions are 30-35. Try Buzz Kill. 4 battleships and zomgwtfcrapload of elite frigs with 25k bounty. And it's about 3 times more common than extravaganzas and blockades combined. Anoms are harvestable in Oracles with not even 100mil in ship+fittings. 10% of your bs. And you're virtually safe from gankers being able to dock up on sight, you won't get anywhere near that level of safety in hisec mission hubs.
Another session of goon math and I will follow the advice of not responding to you.
You are wrong and you have not read the sheet. The average anomaly was ~29m. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharingRe-linked again, you highsec pubbies have no excuse for not reading it and continuing to spout your crap.
You can link stuff till you turn blue, high sec isn't interested in the truth (though the should be, because in their short sightedness fail to understand how a proper risk/reward balance benefits them as much as everyone else*). Malcanis once introduced me to an Upton Sinclair quote that sums the high sec attitude perfectly:
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.GÇ¥
*The funny thing is that the current imblance hurts high sec as much as other places. The imblance leads to LOT more people on incursion wait lists than there should be, lots more incursion contests (because people branch out into other communities in hopes of getting into a fleet) which leads to much more incursion drama (moms getting popped early when one side keeps losing contests).
And that's just incursions. People who'd rather be pve-ing in null if it was worth it are all over empire doing all sorts of things, lowering the values of those things for the people who actually live there.
You'd think that one day at least 1 person in high sec would smarten up and realize that null sec people having incentive to actually be in null ( rather than playing on high sec alts because the mouse always goes where the cheese is) would make their own gameplay experience better. But no, in an epic display of short sightedness, they defend a status quo that screws them as much as it screws us. They are brilliant. |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
3956
|
Posted - 2014.02.03 19:59:00 -
[2274] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:baltec1 wrote:Hell Ball wrote: ..............But they still happen tho...............
The last two faction drops I have had dropped tags and ammo. Most faction mods that drop are junk, so yea it might happen but its not going to make any difference to your isk/hr. That's the same thinking that killed Diablo 3. See, it's not about you and your bad luck. It's about the average of everyone that runs these things. Not everyone is as sadly lacking of good drops as you are. Cherry picking one player's performance to bolster your argument is hardly meaningful of anything. Just a waste of forum space. Mr Epeen  This from the people who have posted no evidence at all to back up their claims. I ain't people, yo. I is Mr Epeen! No one else quite like me around here.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2006
|
Posted - 2014.02.03 20:15:00 -
[2275] - Quote
Just out of curiosity, let's suppose no mission in hi-sec paid more than lvl 3 missions currently do, or worse, what do null-sec folk think would be the result?
That hi-sec folk would want to move to null-sec?
That some, perhaps a lot of folk might leave the game?
That more folk, perhaps a lot might, join a leaner meaner Eve Online?
As I run missions to pay for my inevitable, frequent pvp losses, I would simply pvp far, far less than I do now.
I have absolutely no interest in holding any space, not for moon goo, not for the ego trip, not for the alliance building, not for the large fights and so on.
Log in, make isk by mission running, lose said isk in pvp.
CCP allow me to do this to my heart's content. This is not a signature. |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1557
|
Posted - 2014.02.03 20:17:00 -
[2276] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Just out of curiosity, let's suppose no mission in hi-sec paid more than lvl 3 missions currently do, or worse, what do null-sec folk think would be the result?
That hi-sec folk would want to move to null-sec?
That some, perhaps a lot of folk might leave the game?
That more folk, perhaps a lot might, join a leaner meaner Eve Online?
As I run missions to pay for my inevitable, frequent pvp losses, I would simply pvp far, far less than I do now.
I have absolutely no interest in holding any space, not for moon goo, not for the ego trip, not for the alliance building, not for the large fights and so on.
Log in, make isk by mission running, lose said isk in pvp.
CCP allow me to do this to my heart's content.
What's to say prices would stay as high as they are and you wouldn't be able to continue doing that if there was a highsec income nerf?
E: What's to say you wouldn't make more isk pvping and decide to fully switch to that as you kill a bunch off nullsec ratters who have moved back? This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10058
|
Posted - 2014.02.03 20:19:00 -
[2277] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Just out of curiosity, let's suppose no mission in hi-sec paid more than lvl 3 missions currently do, or worse, what do null-sec folk think would be the result?
That hi-sec folk would want to move to null-sec?
That some, perhaps a lot of folk might leave the game?
That more folk, perhaps a lot might, join a leaner meaner Eve Online?
As I run missions to pay for my inevitable, frequent pvp losses, I would simply pvp far, far less than I do now.
I have absolutely no interest in holding any space, not for moon goo, not for the ego trip, not for the alliance building, not for the large fights and so on.
Log in, make isk by mission running, lose said isk in pvp.
CCP allow me to do this to my heart's content.
You can blitz at least 50 mil/hr in level 3s with the warp speed changes its possible you could earn more. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4565
|
Posted - 2014.02.03 20:25:00 -
[2278] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Just out of curiosity, let's suppose no mission in hi-sec paid more than lvl 3 missions currently do, or worse, what do null-sec folk think would be the result?
That hi-sec folk would want to move to null-sec?
That some, perhaps a lot of folk might leave the game?
That more folk, perhaps a lot might, join a leaner meaner Eve Online?
As I run missions to pay for my inevitable, frequent pvp losses, I would simply pvp far, far less than I do now.
I have absolutely no interest in holding any space, not for moon goo, not for the ego trip, not for the alliance building, not for the large fights and so on.
Log in, make isk by mission running, lose said isk in pvp.
CCP allow me to do this to my heart's content.
Translation: I support a glaring imblance because it benefits me personally.
And who exactly wants "hi sec folk" to go to null? Our aim is to have "NULL SEC FOLK" go to null. The imbalance you are benefitting from removes a key incentive to do so.
No one cares about what you and your type does. We care about the game we are playing and that game should have a restored risk/reward balance because that's best for everyone. |

blabla4711
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2014.02.03 20:26:00 -
[2279] - Quote
baltec1 wrote: This from the people who have posted no evidence at all to back up their claims.
Funny remark from Mr. Shitposter himself who never provided anything at all, talk baseless bullshit and pure lies all the time and is about to party because he found a conflict averse sissy like this kimmy-gal who invests his/her time to try to prove something that means absolutely nothing in this subject at hand while you laugh your asses off playing forumgames.  |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1557
|
Posted - 2014.02.03 20:32:00 -
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blabla4711 wrote:baltec1 wrote: This from the people who have posted no evidence at all to back up their claims.
Funny remark from Mr. Shitposter himself who never provided anything at all, talk baseless bullshit and pure lies all the time and is about to party because he found a conflict averse sissy like this kimmy-gal who invests his/her time to try to prove something that means absolutely nothing in this subject at hand while you laugh your asses off playing forumgames. 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing
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