i'm weak and i'm proud of it

fixed it for you

Which has nothing to do with anything we were talking about, more examples of your disease process. The topic at hand is how your dishonesty is preventing discussion.

Hmm? Details, you're not making sense.

I think you have the same disease infinity ziona has.

You were rambling about data and statistics so I took the opportunity to click the link in your sig, and it showed like 10 data points.

I guess pointing out people's bullshit is kind of an affliction of mine.

"Disease" seems a bit harsh, though.

I would prefer to speak with someone who acknowledges facts, data, and doesn't let their prejudices prevent them from honestly discussing something. Those scientists need to hurry.

See this is part of your disease, you're deliberately leaving out cited devblogs and CCP released statistics. This is why we can't a have a discussion you won't honestly answer a question/discuss so until the scientists come up a cure for your disease there is nothing we can do.

You were rambling about data and statistics so I took the opportunity to click the link in your sig, and it showed like 10 data points.

You were rambling about data and statistics so I took the opportunity to click the link in your sig, and it showed like 10 data points.

I guess pointing out people's bullshit is kind of an affliction of mine.

"Disease" seems a bit harsh, though.

You're spewing bullshit, you refuse to acknowledge facts/data that conflict with your worldview and you won't discuss anything honestly. See you you cherry-picked what I said to try and discredit me without actually providing reasons or support.

No but you aren't thinking too clearly.

Any group from 50-1,000 cannot go there without permission - that is the bulk of the player base in this game and many/most have been part of differing alliances over their time here.

The "smaller" groups aren't unwilling to engage in diplomacy, those are groups that are unwilling to kneel to a 10k+ coalition, paying "rent" and simply becoming a statistic in their spreadsheet based schemes. That's not too interesting to many vs flying with people you know and can work with, who also know you.

The reason SOV lands are the way they are is simple: The members living there *LIKE* the situation or they'd change it themselves - which they won't do.

As such I'd go with adding some space to the game. Something different than the currently layout so "power projection" won't work easily from SOV lands.

It has been 5 years since CCP added to the game universe (wormhole space) so it is about due to expand a bit again vs trying to revamp and "fix" portions of the game that the residents are comfortable with - especially some 20k-40k characters in SOV null who don't want their space to change beyond getting easier and requiring less time and effort from them.

A few more severs with space added would be a hell of a lot easier to engineer and manage than trying to adjust SOV lands when the bulk of those who control it, *LIKE* how it works (or,again, they would change how it works themselves).

Again - it's simply time to add more systems to the game for those not interested in how current SOV lands work but would like to lay a claim to some space.

You ran 10 Forsaken Hubs in a row in nullsec, and use this amazing "statistical data" to prove that "nullsec is terrible."

This is why people laugh at you.

You ran 10 Forsaken Hubs in a row in nullsec, and use this amazing "statistical data" to prove that "nullsec is terrible."

This is why people laugh at you.



Yeah, Kimmi ran 10 missions in a row and then they had a Conference comparing numbers.

You will all be awarded the Nobel Prize in Economics for your amazing and thorough understanding of the EVE Economy - reducing the system down to Forsaken Hubs and Missions.

Everybody stop arguing, they got it all figured out.

See this is part of your disease, you're deliberately leaving out cited devblogs and CCP released statistics. This is why we can't a have a discussion you won't honestly answer a question/discuss so until the scientists come up a cure for your disease there is nothing we can do.

Yeah, Kimmi ran 10 missions in a row and then they had a Conference comparing numbers.

You will all be awarded the Nobel Prize in Economics for your amazing and thorough understanding of the EVE Economy - reducing the system down to Forsaken Hubs and Missions.

Everybody stop arguing, they got it all figured out.

Nerf the proffesional forum trolls, lock less threads ban more trolls.

Please link all dev blogs relevant to the discussion at hand.

Considering you think comparing 10 missions to 10 forsaken hubs is conclusive evidence of imbalance, I have no possible way of predicting what you consider to be "relevant."

So now you're changing your story and we have 20 data points, not 10. That's 100% more data.

Now, where's your data so that we can compare it?

Why? You didn't change your opinion based on fact in the 150+ page thread after Tippia linked them to you, why would you do so now? Why should I expend any effort on you while you that horrible disease?

Kimmi also provided data. This is exactly what La Nariz is saying - you selectively ignore relevant information because it doesn't help your case. Seeing as you're so invested in that particular argument, might I be so bold as to enquire where your collected data on the subject can be viewed?

Please tell me you are trolling.



I'm not the one making ridiculous claims. The burden of data is on the people making the claims.



So, you are deliberately withholding what you consider to be relevant to twist this thread into ad hominem.

Or, far more likely, because the dev blog data doesn't your claims, and thus makes you look silly.

1 + 1 = 3

Don't ask me to prove it. You're all far too diseased and biased.

You can actually find the proof on a dev blog, but I can't be bothered to link it to you right now because I already linked it to you in the past and you said it was bullshit.

1 + 1 = 3

Don't ask me to prove it. You're all far too diseased and biased.

You can actually find the proof on a dev blog, but I can't be bothered to link it to you right now because I already linked it to you in the past and you said it was bullshit.

You mean a dev blog that you will then go on to misrepresent? You should go a head and link it so that a a dozen people can be wrong about how you're looking at the whole thing wrong.

Well, ok, but personally I'd miss reading the stuff you post.

Man, here we go again.

I hope CCP shuts down this thread asap, given goons are derailing the thread again about ISK / hour.

Bottom line, CCP has the numbers about how much money is made where.
They see who owns the titans, who does not.
They see the ISK / tick for everyone.

As would I, but I feel certain others would be on vacation more frequent than myself as I am merely an amateur

Man, here we go again.

I hope CCP shuts down this thread asap, given goons are derailing the thread again about ISK / hour.

Bottom line, CCP has the numbers about how much money is made where.
They see who owns the titans, who does not.
They see the ISK / tick for everyone.

I firmly believe they will be nerfing high sec again, but the goons whining in this thread, or any thread, is not how the nerf gets done. The only reason the goons whine here is when the inevitable nerf happens, they can say it ONLY happened because of their wise direction here, and how CCP finally saw the light, ignoring all the other less obvious pressure applied to destroy high sec.

Of course, a nerf to high sec is really really bad for the game in general, but great for the goons.
But they already know that.

You actually argued my own point for me. Thanks.

Do you see now why I asked La Ngjdirhg to link the dev blogs he considered relevant?