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La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1637
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:28:00 -
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Inxentas Ultramar wrote: Small guys stay small guys because they don't feel like sucking up to some Alliance's middle management, they don't have the resources to compete, or perhaps they don't have the time to dedicate to Eve's rediculous Sov mechanics and bureaucratic alliance nonsense. I sure don't. Nullsec simply isn't suitable for how we want to play, and lowsec is losing it's charm rapidly. Hisec (wardecs) and wormhole space (unrestricted PVP) are simply better, more enjoyable alternatives then living in the shadow of a colossus.
Right there we have the answer folks, people that refuse to engage in diplomacy and politics can't get anywhere in a multiplayer game.
E: They literally don't feel like doing what it takes to succeed. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
485
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:32:00 -
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Aivo Dresden wrote:Varius Xeral wrote:Yeah, I don't think many people are going to defend the current nullsec mechanics point for point, just pointing out that a small number of enormous and highly influential coalitions is par for the course in nullsec history.
Totally agree. Powerblocs and coalitions come and go. Nothing to worry about. :P I would agree. TBH I think the best thing any of us could do would be to clear out of BLUESEC entirely. The quicker CFC get bored, the quicker they will start fighting internaly and fracture from within. |
Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA
489
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:33:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Inxentas Ultramar wrote: Small guys stay small guys because they don't feel like sucking up to some Alliance's middle management, they don't have the resources to compete, or perhaps they don't have the time to dedicate to Eve's rediculous Sov mechanics and bureaucratic alliance nonsense. I sure don't. Nullsec simply isn't suitable for how we want to play, and lowsec is losing it's charm rapidly. Hisec (wardecs) and wormhole space (unrestricted PVP) are simply better, more enjoyable alternatives then living in the shadow of a colossus.
Right there we have the answer folks, people that refuse to engage in diplomacy and politics can't get anywhere in a multiplayer game.
Except it isn't even success.
Let's say hypothetically he did what you asked, and "engaged in diplomacy."
OK - now he's part of some giant blue entity that barely PvP's against eachother.
Was that even the goal? |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
2214
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:34:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Right there we have the answer folks, people that refuse to engage in diplomacy and politics can't get anywhere in a multiplayer game.
E: They literally don't feel like doing what it takes to succeed.
Even more so, they have specific areas with specialized mechanics that cater to their desire for "sov-lite", so complaining about sov null is doubly asinine.
Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4702
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:39:00 -
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Aivo Dresden wrote:Varius Xeral wrote:Yeah, I don't think many people are going to defend the current nullsec mechanics point for point, just pointing out that a small number of enormous and highly influential coalitions is par for the course in nullsec history.
Totally agree. Powerblocs and coalitions come and go. Nothing to worry about. :P
+1 as well.
As it is in game it is in real life. People always perceive things as getting worse (and that this "worse" thing is somehow new) when the truth tends to be that it's always in some kind of way been bad (it may even be better today than it was at different points in the past).
Don't have it at my fingertips right now but I have a bookmark on my work computer to a study that link these false perceptions to getting older. In other words the closer a person gets to death the more they think the world is going to pot even when it's not lol.
We see it all the time on these forums. "ganking is worse than ever", "people are more uncivil in the game now than when I started", "X group is too powerful and will eventually conquer all of nullsec" "EVE is dying and X new game will kill it" etc etc.
It's just EVE players turning into old codgers lol. We'll all be sitting in a nursing home one day saying EVE is gonna die any day now. I for one plan to have 'Grr Goons' put on my gravestone.
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La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1637
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:42:00 -
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Pinky Hops wrote:La Nariz wrote:Inxentas Ultramar wrote: Small guys stay small guys because they don't feel like sucking up to some Alliance's middle management, they don't have the resources to compete, or perhaps they don't have the time to dedicate to Eve's rediculous Sov mechanics and bureaucratic alliance nonsense. I sure don't. Nullsec simply isn't suitable for how we want to play, and lowsec is losing it's charm rapidly. Hisec (wardecs) and wormhole space (unrestricted PVP) are simply better, more enjoyable alternatives then living in the shadow of a colossus.
Right there we have the answer folks, people that refuse to engage in diplomacy and politics can't get anywhere in a multiplayer game. Except it isn't even success. Let's say hypothetically he did what you asked, and "engaged in diplomacy." OK - now he's part of some giant blue entity that barely PvP's against eachother. Was that even the goal?
I think you have the same disease infinity ziona has. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4702
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:44:00 -
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Varius Xeral wrote:La Nariz wrote:Right there we have the answer folks, people that refuse to engage in diplomacy and politics can't get anywhere in a multiplayer game.
E: They literally don't feel like doing what it takes to succeed. Even more so, they have specific areas with specialized mechanics that cater to their desire for "sov-lite", so complaining about sov null is doubly asinine.
Complaining is all they can do really. Putting together enough like minded people in a video game to go and unblue null sec is too hard, so to the forums they go to 'fight the power' (with the power of WORDS!).
For some reason they remind me of this Southpark episode.
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Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA
489
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:44:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:I think you have the same disease infinity ziona has.
My disease is not liking a blue nullsec.
If more people had this disease, EVE would be a better game. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
2484
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:44:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Aivo Dresden wrote:Varius Xeral wrote:Yeah, I don't think many people are going to defend the current nullsec mechanics point for point, just pointing out that a small number of enormous and highly influential coalitions is par for the course in nullsec history.
Totally agree. Powerblocs and coalitions come and go. Nothing to worry about. :P +1 as well. As it is in game it is in real life. People always perceive things as getting worse (and that this "worse" thing is somehow new) when the truth tends to be that it's always in some kind of way been bad (it may even be better today than it was at different points in the past). Don't have it at my fingertips right now but I have a bookmark on my work computer to a study that link these false perceptions to getting older. In other words the closer a person gets to death the more they think the world is going to pot even when it's not lol. We see it all the time on these forums. "ganking is worse than ever", "people are more uncivil in the game now than when I started", "X group is too powerful and will eventually conquer all of nullsec" "EVE is dying and X new game will kill it" etc etc. It's just EVE players turning into old codgers lol. We'll all be sitting in a nursing home one day saying EVE is gonna die any day now. I for one plan to have 'Grr Goons' put on my gravestone.
I for one, am happy to confirm that nullsec under BoB was much, much worse than this. You want to talk about stagnant? Don't even get me started. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10143
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:47:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote: I would agree. TBH I think the best thing any of us could do would be to clear out of BLUESEC entirely. The quicker CFC get bored, the quicker they will start fighting internaly and fracture from within.
We would turn on high and low sec while CCP would be forced to fix sov null. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
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La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1639
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:49:00 -
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Pinky Hops wrote:La Nariz wrote:I think you have the same disease infinity ziona has. My disease is not liking a blue nullsec. If more people had this disease, EVE would be a better game.
This is proof you have the same disease, don't worry scientists are working on a cure as we speak. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
333
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:51:00 -
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Pinky Hops wrote:knobber Jobbler wrote:That isn't CCP's fault - the poor sov mechanics are. What? Considering CCP designed the sov mechanics, it's safe to say that CCP is responsible. Also, power projection is just as much to blame as sov mechanics.
Do you have reading comprehension issues? |
Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA
489
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:53:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Pinky Hops wrote:La Nariz wrote:I think you have the same disease infinity ziona has. My disease is not liking a blue nullsec. If more people had this disease, EVE would be a better game. This is proof you have the same disease, don't worry scientists are working on a cure as we speak.
So you prefer blue nullsec to an area with active PvP?
Have you ever heard of a game named FarmVille? You might like it. Sounds right up your alley. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4704
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:54:00 -
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Pinky Hops wrote:La Nariz wrote:Pinky Hops wrote:La Nariz wrote:I think you have the same disease infinity ziona has. My disease is not liking a blue nullsec. If more people had this disease, EVE would be a better game. This is proof you have the same disease, don't worry scientists are working on a cure as we speak. So you prefer blue nullsec to an area with active PvP? Have you ever heard of a game named FarmVille? You might like it. Sounds right up your alley.
One thing is for sure, Pinky Hops is an absolute ball of joy and happiness.
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La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1639
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:58:00 -
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Pinky Hops wrote:La Nariz wrote:Pinky Hops wrote:La Nariz wrote:I think you have the same disease infinity ziona has. My disease is not liking a blue nullsec. If more people had this disease, EVE would be a better game. This is proof you have the same disease, don't worry scientists are working on a cure as we speak. So you prefer blue nullsec to an area with active PvP? Have you ever heard of a game named FarmVille? You might like it. Sounds right up your alley. Let's all hold hands and sing Kumbaya after a round of diplomacy.
I would prefer to speak with someone who acknowledges facts, data, and doesn't let their prejudices prevent them from honestly discussing something. Those scientists need to hurry. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA
489
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:03:00 -
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I'll take that as a yes, then.
Judging by your perspective you think the following:
1) Nullsec is not blue enough. It needs to be more blue - with less PvP 2) People should engage in more diplomacy. Instead of fighting, they should forge agreements. 3) Nobody should be allowed into nullsec unless they agree with both 1) and 2)
Do I understand you correctly? |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1639
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:09:00 -
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Pinky Hops wrote:I'll take that as a yes, then. Judging by your perspective you think the following: 1) Nullsec is not blue enough. It needs to be more blue - with less PvP 2) People should engage in more diplomacy. Instead of fighting, they should forge agreements. 3) Nobody should be allowed into nullsec unless they agree with both 1) and 2) Do I understand you correctly? I think we can all be thankful CCP ignores you.
You really had to abbreviate two sentences? This is now a very relevant question.
knobber Jobbler wrote:Do you have reading comprehension issues? This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA
490
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:11:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Pinky Hops wrote:I'll take that as a yes, then. Judging by your perspective you think the following: 1) Nullsec is not blue enough. It needs to be more blue - with less PvP 2) People should engage in more diplomacy. Instead of fighting, they should forge agreements. 3) Nobody should be allowed into nullsec unless they agree with both 1) and 2) Do I understand you correctly? I think we can all be thankful CCP ignores you. You really had to abbreviate two sentences? This is now a very relevant question. knobber Jobbler wrote:Do you have reading comprehension issues?
Sorry, I don't speak stupid, so I had to roughly translate you.
All I know is, you babble a lot about diplomacy and how awesome setting people to blue is.
I am again, very thankful that CCP does not listen to you. |
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1112
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:12:00 -
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Oh look... It's going to be another of those threads.
Grrr Blues Grrr Diplomacy
Nerf something to make the game better!!! "You should just create one thread and put all of your complaints in it instead of littering the forums with multiple threads." ~CCP Falcon
www.eve-radio.com -áJoin Eve Radio channel in game! |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4705
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:13:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote:Oh look... It's going to be another of those threads. Grrr Blues Grrr Diplomacy Nerf something to make the game better!!!
Grr Kimmi
Nerf Chans!
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La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1639
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:14:00 -
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Pinky Hops wrote: Sorry, I don't speak stupid, so I had to roughly translate you.
All I know is, you babble a lot about diplomacy and how awesome setting people to blue is.
I am again, very thankful that CCP does not listen to you.
Oh man the irony ahahahahahahahahahahaha. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA
490
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:16:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Pinky Hops wrote: Sorry, I don't speak stupid, so I had to roughly translate you.
All I know is, you babble a lot about diplomacy and how awesome setting people to blue is.
I am again, very thankful that CCP does not listen to you.
Oh man the irony ahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Yes, because I am well known for holding the position that nullsec should be a bastion of carebears who all set eachother to blue.
Oh wait, that's you. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1639
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:17:00 -
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Pinky Hops wrote:La Nariz wrote:Pinky Hops wrote: Sorry, I don't speak stupid, so I had to roughly translate you.
All I know is, you babble a lot about diplomacy and how awesome setting people to blue is.
I am again, very thankful that CCP does not listen to you.
Oh man the irony ahahahahahahahahahahaha. Yes, because I am well known for holding the position that nullsec should be a bastion of carebears who all set eachother to blue. Oh wait, that's you.
No you're well known for being willfully stupid to the point we have to dumb down what we're talking about or completely re-explain it to you multiple times. I give you a little lee-way because of your disease but, that only goes so far. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA
490
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:19:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Pinky Hops wrote:La Nariz wrote:Pinky Hops wrote: Sorry, I don't speak stupid, so I had to roughly translate you.
All I know is, you babble a lot about diplomacy and how awesome setting people to blue is.
I am again, very thankful that CCP does not listen to you.
Oh man the irony ahahahahahahahahahahaha. Yes, because I am well known for holding the position that nullsec should be a bastion of carebears who all set eachother to blue. Oh wait, that's you. No you're well known for being willfully stupid to the point we have to dumb down what we're talking about or completely re-explain it to you multiple times. I give you a little lee-way because of your disease but, that only goes so far.
If you want, I can go back in this thread and point out all the examples of you rambling like a crazy person about how nullsec is about diplomacy and setting people to blue.
Again, thankfully CCP does not share this vision with you.
EVE would have died 7 years ago.
But by all means, keep rambling. It's not going to help you much. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1639
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:23:00 -
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Pinky Hops wrote: No you're well known for being willfully stupid to the point we have to dumb down what we're talking about or completely re-explain it to you multiple times. I give you a little lee-way because of your disease but, that only goes so far.
If you want, I can go back in this thread and point out all the examples of you rambling like a crazy person about how nullsec is about diplomacy and setting people to blue.
Again, thankfully CCP does not share this vision with you.
EVE would have died 7 years ago.
But by all means, keep rambling. It's not going to help you much.[/quote]
Rambling? I am being a humanitarian by refusing to engage with people incapable of honestly discussing a topic. Really I'm doing you a favor as we've all seen in other threads you don't do well when someone presents facts and data to counter your position that was derived from prejudice. Really you're a space bigot. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA
490
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:24:00 -
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La Nariz wrote: I am being a humanitarian by refusing to engage with people incapable of honestly discussing a topic. Really I'm doing you a favor as we've all seen in other threads you don't do well when someone presents facts and data to counter your position that was derived from prejudice. Really you're a space bigot.
Your idea of data is a guy who runs 10 missions in a row, makes X isk an hour, and that is universally taken to mean that "highsec is better than nullsec."
Mental handicaps indeed.
And yes, you are a rambler. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1639
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:27:00 -
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Pinky Hops wrote:La Nariz wrote: I am being a humanitarian by refusing to engage with people incapable of honestly discussing a topic. Really I'm doing you a favor as we've all seen in other threads you don't do well when someone presents facts and data to counter your position that was derived from prejudice. Really you're a space bigot. Your idea of data is a guy who runs 10 missions in a row, makes X isk an hour, and that is universally taken to mean that "highsec is better than nullsec." Mental handicaps indeed.
See this is part of your disease, you're deliberately leaving out cited devblogs and CCP released statistics. This is why we can't a have a discussion you won't honestly answer a question/discuss so until the scientists come up a cure for your disease there is nothing we can do. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA
490
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:31:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Pinky Hops wrote:La Nariz wrote: I am being a humanitarian by refusing to engage with people incapable of honestly discussing a topic. Really I'm doing you a favor as we've all seen in other threads you don't do well when someone presents facts and data to counter your position that was derived from prejudice. Really you're a space bigot. Your idea of data is a guy who runs 10 missions in a row, makes X isk an hour, and that is universally taken to mean that "highsec is better than nullsec." Mental handicaps indeed. See this is part of your disease, you're deliberately leaving out cited devblogs and CCP released statistics. This is why we can't a have a discussion you won't honestly answer a question/discuss so until the scientists come up a cure for your disease there is nothing we can do.
Such vitriol.
I must have really hurt your feelings at some point.
Also, I just flipped a coin 10 times in a row and got heads 7 times.
We can thus logically conclude that the chances of getting heads is 70%.
This conclusion lines up with your statistical practices. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
2486
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:34:00 -
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Pinky, if you feel so strongly about it yourself...
then grow a pair, and go shoot them.
Otherwise you're just tossing off. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1639
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:36:00 -
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Pinky Hops wrote: Such vitriol.
I must have really hurt your feelings at some point.
Also, I just flipped a coin 10 times in a row and got heads 7 times.
We can thus logically conclude that the chances of getting heads is 70%.
This conclusion lines up with your statistical practices.
Which has nothing to do with anything we were talking about, more examples of your disease process. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
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