This is a nutshell is precisely why most people that could get involved in nullsec in a meaningful way avoid it like the plague, and why so many null systems are "empty." Right now you have 2 choices, join the blob or stay in high/low.

Yeah so.

What is it to you? You couldn't defend PB if you v wanted to, the same way Unclaimed and Tribe couldn't.....if a pair of +1000 man alliances couldn't hold PB you and your ten alts damn sure couldn't.

You know the trick to PB? You need to hold our at least have standings with whomever holds Querious AND Delve our you have no way back to empire without going through 50 jumps off hostile space.

"teams" and "teamwork" in a game usually consist of equal sides ... maybe come up with a better term

"turkey shoot" would be a better one

Right now you have 2 choices, join the blob or stay in high/low.

CFC are simply riding the timer gravy train for everything it's worth. It's why you get all constipated and outraged when anyone criticizes timers.

So, you're telling me you do want WoW Battlegrounds, then? Not a sandbox?

I get outraged when somebody thinks they should be able to destroy sov structures (or POCOs) on their own with impunity.

what chance does a small alliance/corp that wants to be independent of the big boys have in getting a foothold in null?

Sov is the teamwork part of the game.

You lot have still failed to explain why you actually deserve the stuff you keep telling us teh soloh playerz are entitled to. And, "because I want it" isn't really a good answer, just to let you know ahead of time.

But you're perfectly fine with mechanics to let you defend your assets even though you're staged on the other side of the galaxy. Talking of feeling entitled. Last I checked it's pretty impossible to destroy something with "impunity" when the defenders live in the system or nearby systems.

If we remove timers it will mean you will have to have a fleet on guard duty 24/7 and a large one at that. We can burn through any structure in a matter of minutes so IZ's idea would make it impossible for smaller alliances to hold anything in null. Hell it would be impossible for most of the big alliances to keep hold of anything.

with the current state of null sec http://i.imgur.com/yRX4f1D.png (based on blue standings) what chance does a small alliance/corp that wants to be independent of the big boys have in getting a foothold in null?

it looks like you have 3 choices at the moment join cfc/rus join N3 or buy a wizards hat and join provi block.

while i admit my knowledge of everything going on in null is somewhat limited every 1 seams to say the same thing N3 while still got a lot of fight in them is on the back-foot and in full retreat that blue doughnut is getting closer and closer to being complete.

small scale pvp is getting harder and harder to find always seams to be a 30 man fleet getting dropped by a 100 man fleet, and if/when the blue doughnut is complete you may as well say large scale pvp will die as well.

yes its in the nature of sandboxes for people to group together and form massive coalitions but is this really healthy for null sec?

You have forgotten NPC 0.0, which offers excellent opportunities, but with regard to sov 0.0 you're bang on the money.

@Nineteen Seventy-Nine:

What you're asking for is basically wormhole space.

Artificial limits on capacity included. With a considerably more inventive method than "don't let them blue more than X".

NPC null seems to be packed full of surrounding alliance peeps too. Venal is packed with CFC, so is Outer Ring, last time I went there FCon was busy cleaning out small corp POS and POCOs, Likewise the SOE area next to FADE...

I may be wrong but I also recall mention of 3rd party applications that can be used to "blue" pilots externally if the number of blues is limited internally.

A fair idea on paper but...

I can think of nothing more apt to describe the "blue donut" than "preventable environmental disaster"

You realize all that you want to achieve can be done by nerfing highsec right? More competition means more pressure on big groups and desirable resources to play upon people's greed.

You realize all that you want to achieve can be done by nerfing highsec right? More competition means more pressure on big groups and desirable resources to play upon people's greed.

You realize all that you want to achieve can be done by nerfing highsec right? More competition means more pressure on big groups and desirable resources to play upon people's greed.

Wow, you couldn't be more wrong.

Or biased.

"Yeah so" . . . It clearly shows you didn't earn your space and the only reason you keep it is because timers and auto emails along with power projection allows you to. In short these big blocs are completely propped up not by hard work and effort but by timers.

Without automatic emails and timers to protect "your PB" and not a CFC in sight for months, that space would have been taken by people who would have fought for it and used it.

CFC are simply riding the timer gravy train for everything it's worth. It's why you get all constipated and outraged when anyone criticizes timers.

Fountain is pretty bloccy though.

Depending on exactly what you mean by "nerf", it might help a little but fundamentally the fact is that EVE is only 7 minutes wide.

This is the fundamental problem with Null. CCP has to do something to nerf the ability for massive alliances, for any alliance to project power. Taking territory and or resources far from your center should be a major undertaking. No alliance has a prayer of growth as long as they can be dropped upon from the other side of the map in the time it takes to grab a sandwich and coffee.

Myanna wrote an awesome piece addressing with an interesting solution this which I believe can be found on the evenews24 site.