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Katkon Darnok wrote:

Navi Annages wrote:

Katkon Darnok wrote:

Navi Annages wrote:

Abla Tive wrote:

Hours of humiliation is clearly abuse.

Abuse is clearly against the terms of service.

Violation of terms of service is legitimate grounds for banning.

Where is the confusion?

The Eula for the millionth time states "in the game" not outside the game in ts3 mumble vent facechat ect ect ect. Which part are you unsure of?

Technically, the EULA gives CCP the freedom to ban pretty much whomever they please for "inappropriate conduct". If you read it carefully it DOES state the following....

"CCP may establish Rules of Conduct (discussed below) for players accessing the System and may, but is not obligated to, monitor and take action regarding inappropriate conduct."

... And while it DOES list specific behavior-related banable offences, it doesn't state that these are the ONLY banable offences. They absolutely have the right per EULA, and - quite frankly - as a business. And no court of law would revolt against a ban in this instance. While the offense in question didn't happen "in" EVE, it 100% revolved around EVE and even involved transfer/APIs "in-game" DURING the bonus around. Any "reasonable" person would suggest that E1 attempted to explicitly avoid EULA knowing that the bonus round, as managed here, was a violation of terms and conditions. I think he even stated this explicitly.

This is not a EULA issue, it's an ethics issue.

Im gonna make this simple for you. I live in a foriegn country outside of CCP's jurisdiction. Right now I'm gonna print up a bunch of t-shirts with CCP logos on them. Is the EULA gonna stop me somehow?

Nah Maybe I'll take the model files for a rifter or an astero and put them into my 3-d printer and make some toys to play with while we debate. Regardless. The Eula specifically states "in the game" that does not mean they can barge into my living room and stop me from printing my own eve toys. Does this make sense to you? The context of any harassment happened outside the confines of the virtual "in the game" setting. As such it is open for E1 to take this to court if he really wants to. Justification for death threats is felony charges so....................Good riddance. Biggots and racists wear orange jumpsuits from what i understand.

You may have strived for simplicity, but you achieved complexity - and irrelevance. CCP can ban you for anything they deem inappropriate conduct. They can do this irrespective of where you live. I'm not sure what that has to do with printing t-shirts or making model ships. And we all know that this won't end up in court - neither party would want anyone to know who they really are, or have to explain why their actions/words were justified to a jury of their peers, or to foot the legal bills associated with a court case. So just drop the whole felony charge line of argumentation - it's irrelevant.