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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
3793
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:01:00 -
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Space Juden wrote:If Erotica1 broke the rules I hope him and the people involved in the bonus room are banned. Because they broke the rules and I find their actions particularly distasteful and... particularly and egregiously rude.
If they didn't then I think CCP should think about their sandbox and decide accordingly because in the end it's theirs and not mine to decide.
It happened a month ago.
You already have your answer. But Ripard Teg wanted a new one, so he decided to start a fuss about it. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1262
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:02:00 -
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Dieterlin wrote: It's pretty obvious that the whole point of the bonus room is just humiliation. If it were done with in-game chat, it would violate that bit of the EULA that I've quoted infinity times that nobody seems to notice because this thread is just going in circles now.
I don't think anyone disagrees with that point in particular. |

Space Juden
Supermassive Potato Pancake
49
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:05:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Space Juden wrote:If Erotica1 broke the rules I hope him and the people involved in the bonus room are banned. Because they broke the rules and I find their actions particularly distasteful and... particularly and egregiously rude.
If they didn't then I think CCP should think about their sandbox and decide accordingly because in the end it's theirs and not mine to decide. It happened a month ago. You already have your answer. But Ripard Teg wanted a new one, so he decided to start a fuss about it.
Answers from CCP can take decades |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
904
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:05:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Souxie Alduin wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:The assets are already transferred to the Bonus Room perpetrators before it begins.
If there is no legitimate way to win the Bonus Room, then it can he shown to be merely facilitate humiliatiin and degradatiin on the victim, with no actual recourse to winning it, and no additional profit to the perpetrators.
Because there is no further ISK to be made from it, and there is no way for the partcipant to legitimately win, the only remaining motive is intent to cause harm and purpose is malice towards the victim, till they remove themselves from the situation.
I ask again, what is required of the victim in order to win the bonus room? FFS! YOU CAN'T! Then it can be shown that the Bonus Rooms only function is an arena to harm the victim. It then categorically falls under the EULA as an event and instance the only purpose of which is to abuse and harm the victim. If the "if there is no legitimate way to win..." is in fact true, then that would be a reasonable conclusion, but not the inly possible ine, none of which are particularly pleasant. eve-bazaar - Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings to drive your ISK further. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
3793
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:06:00 -
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Space Juden wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Space Juden wrote:If Erotica1 broke the rules I hope him and the people involved in the bonus room are banned. Because they broke the rules and I find their actions particularly distasteful and... particularly and egregiously rude.
If they didn't then I think CCP should think about their sandbox and decide accordingly because in the end it's theirs and not mine to decide. It happened a month ago. You already have your answer. But Ripard Teg wanted a new one, so he decided to start a fuss about it. Answers from CCP can take decades
Tell that to the pizza ordering guy. Didn't that take about 2 hours? Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Anomaly One
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
48
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:07:00 -
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Muestereate wrote:The turning over all before the torture commences is a tactic used in real brainwashing. One signifigant way brainwashing differs form hypnosis or persuasion is that in brainwashing the victim feels helpless. having everything gone leaves people like this. Thats why prisoners are often required to remove their clothes and stripped of all personal items. Powerful stuff.
Except emm.. you know that in most maximum security prisons, prisoners are often rebellious and don't exhibit helplessness what you describe happens more in the army/schools/society not in prisons. Psychotic Monk for CSM9 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 you want content in highsec? vote Monk |

Souxie Alduin
Anarchy in the Eve
113
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:07:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Space Juden wrote:If Erotica1 broke the rules I hope him and the people involved in the bonus room are banned. Because they broke the rules and I find their actions particularly distasteful and... particularly and egregiously rude.
If they didn't then I think CCP should think about their sandbox and decide accordingly because in the end it's theirs and not mine to decide. It happened a month ago. You already have your answer. But Ripard Teg wanted a new one, so he decided to start a fuss about it.
He did manage to fuss up one headline over at Massively at least:
Here's some of the cyberbullying that happens in EVE Online http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/03/25/heres-some-of-the-cyberbullying-that-happens-in-eve-online/ |

Space Juden
Supermassive Potato Pancake
50
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:08:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Tell that to the pizza ordering guy. Didn't that take about 2 hours?
or the 'snowbunnies'
Their time line is better to take as an unknown variable
edit: snowbunnies refers to cocain fyi |

Anomaly One
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
48
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:11:00 -
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Always rely on people only reading the headline.
" I left the game over a year ago after getting fed up with these "exceptions". I shouldn't have to put up with constant scams, theft, and ransom-decs just to play a game. "
LOL^ Psychotic Monk for CSM9 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 you want content in highsec? vote Monk |

Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1453
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:12:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:I ask again, what exactly are the tasks required of the victim in order to win the bonus room? It never ends. No one ever wins. The hosts of this Bonus Room keep moving the goal posts forever by tacking on endless chores. The idea is the player will always give up in the end, thus making it look like it is their own fault.
That's not *entirely* accurate. I'm not at liberty to say what constitutes a winner, and what, precisely, they recieve.... but there HAVE been winners, and they DO end up quite spacerich. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |

Salvos Rhoska
722
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:14:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:If the "if there is no legitimate way to win..." is in fact true, then that would be a reasonable conclusion, but not the inly possible ine, none of which are particularly pleasant.
What is the legitimate way to win?
What is required of the victim in order to win the Bonus Round?
Answer specifically. |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
904
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:19:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:If the "if there is no legitimate way to win..." is in fact true, then that would be a reasonable conclusion, but not the inly possible ine, none of which are particularly pleasant. What is the legitimate way to win? What is required of the victim in order to win the Bonus Round? Answer specifically. I remind you that you cannot make a contract in EVE that bypasses the EULA. Are you saying that in participating in the Bonus Room, it is implicit that the participant must submit to treatment that is against his EULA rights, in order to win? Are you saying it is required that the victim must submit to humiliation, degradation, and the assignment of arbitrary demands, in order to win? I already did answer specifically.
I have no idea because i have no more experience in the bonus room than you do. eve-bazaar - Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings to drive your ISK further. |

Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
314
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:20:00 -
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Kirsi Kirjasto wrote:Actually, the REALLY scary bit?
That Sohkar is supposedly a FRIGGEN Air Traffic Controller. I will express myself in Chinese.
Ho Lee Fuk.
Seriously, I think CCP, having his 'real life' information - should report Sohkar to the proper authorities.
Somebody this obviously unstable and insane should NOT be directing aircraft in ANY capacity.
Erotica 1 actually did us a great service by exposing a clear and present risk to public safety.
Would YOU feel comfortable landing at a busy airport staffed by someone like Sohkar?
Let's do this the other way around.
Doesn't becoming an ATC require some sort of psych exam?
If yes, then Ero1's antics managed to have somebody whose psychological stability has been proven lose their wits.
And you still think it's okay for him to do that?
If the answer is yes, it makes me ashamed to share gene pools with the likes of you. |

Wulfy Johnson
NorCorp Security
25
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:20:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:I ask again, what exactly are the tasks required of the victim in order to win the bonus room? It never ends. No one ever wins. The hosts of this Bonus Room keep moving the goal posts forever by tacking on endless chores. The idea is the player will always give up in the end, thus making it look like it is their own fault. That's not *entirely* accurate. I'm not at liberty to say what constitutes a winner, and what, precisely, they recieve.... but there HAVE been winners, and they DO end up quite spacerich.
Or perhaps the bonus rooms has a secondary function of mooving isk around freely or for rmt'ing.. |

Salvos Rhoska
723
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:22:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:I already did answer specifically.
I have no idea because i have no more experience in the bonus room than you do.
You did not answer what is required of the victim to win the Bonus Round, because in the very next sentence you openly admit that you have no idea what is required to win.
Is it so, that it is required that the victim must submit to commensurate abuse, humiliation, degradation, and the assignment of arbitrary demands, in order to win? |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
904
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:24:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:You did not answer what is required of the victim to win the Bonus Round, because in the very next sentence you openly admit that you have no idea what is required to win.
Is it so, that it is required that the victim must submit to commensurate abuse, humiliation, degradation, and the assignment of arbitrary demands, in order to win?
That was my answer - I have no clue what is required to win because we have equivalent experience in the bonus room. I know no more about that than you do.
Simple and direct answer to your question.
I just don't jump to conclusions that my lack of knowledge must mean there is no way to win. I'd rather come to conclusions based on fact, not assumption. eve-bazaar - Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings to drive your ISK further. |

Anomaly One
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
48
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:24:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote: Is it so, that it is required that the victim must submit to commensurate abuse, humiliation, degradation, and the assignment of arbitrary demands, in order to win?
yes
he must mine Psychotic Monk for CSM9 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 you want content in highsec? vote Monk |

Salvos Rhoska
723
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:26:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:--- Then you did not answer what specifically is required of the victim in order to win the Bonus Round.
Is it so, that it is required that the victim must submit to commensurate abuse, humiliation, degradation, and the assignment of arbitrary demands, in order to win? |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
904
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:29:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:--- Then you did not answer what specifically is required of the victim in order to win the Bonus Round. Is it so, that it is required that the victim must submit to commensurate abuse, humiliation, degradation, and the assignment of arbitrary demands, in order to win? You need to ask someone else, otherwise I fear the same answer will produce the same repeat of a question I can't answer for you aside from what I have already offered. eve-bazaar - Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings to drive your ISK further. |

Danalee
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
613
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:29:00 -
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Sirinda wrote:Kirsi Kirjasto wrote:Actually, the REALLY scary bit?
That Sohkar is supposedly a FRIGGEN Air Traffic Controller. I will express myself in Chinese.
Ho Lee Fuk.
Seriously, I think CCP, having his 'real life' information - should report Sohkar to the proper authorities.
Somebody this obviously unstable and insane should NOT be directing aircraft in ANY capacity.
Erotica 1 actually did us a great service by exposing a clear and present risk to public safety.
Would YOU feel comfortable landing at a busy airport staffed by someone like Sohkar?
Let's do this the other way around. Doesn't becoming an ATC require some sort of psych exam? If yes, then Ero1's antics managed to have somebody whose psychological stability has been proven lose their wits. And you still think it's okay for him to do that? If the answer is yes, it makes me ashamed to share gene pools with the likes of you.
It doesn't worry you, an ATC popped a casket because someone asked him to sing songs... on the internet??? And you are still defending a racist bigot, I'm rightfully ashamed to be posting in the same thread as you.
D.

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Muestereate
Minions LLC
235
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:29:00 -
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Anomaly One wrote:Muestereate wrote:The turning over all before the torture commences is a tactic used in real brainwashing. One signifigant way brainwashing differs form hypnosis or persuasion is that in brainwashing the victim feels helpless. having everything gone leaves people like this. Thats why prisoners are often required to remove their clothes and stripped of all personal items. Powerful stuff. Except emm.. you know that in most maximum security prisons, prisoners are often rebellious and don't exhibit helplessness what you describe happens more in the army/schools/society not in prisons.
Yeah I was toning it down. Genocides and war camps were really what came to mind but I realize melodramatic and not the point I wanted to communicate. No one had mentioned the helplessness, especially when they talked of free choice of the victim. The real point was helplessness through stripping. I don't have any prison experience at that level, only volunteer work with those that have already been drugged or coerced into a docile state. Cavity searches are pretty humiliating, they usually perform those with no way out. |

Salvos Rhoska
723
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:30:00 -
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What exactly and specifically must the victim do in order to win the Bonus Round?
Is it so, that it is required that the victim must submit to commensurate abuse, humiliation, degradation, and the assignment of arbitrary demands, in order to win? |

Muestereate
Minions LLC
235
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:31:00 -
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Anomaly One wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote: Is it so, that it is required that the victim must submit to commensurate abuse, humiliation, degradation, and the assignment of arbitrary demands, in order to win? yes he must mine
No trolling anomalous one |

Danalee
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
613
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:32:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:What exactly and specifically must the victim do in order to win the Bonus Round?
Is it so, that it is required that the victim must submit to commensurate abuse, humiliation, degradation, and the assignment of arbitrary demands, in order to win?
Nothing of the sort.
The participant of the bonus room (Not victim, you nimrod) has to show full faih. Some tasks require him to sing songs.
WAIT WHAT? SING SONGS, THE HORROR!?!!!! BURN HIIIIM!
D.
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Drakast
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:33:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:I ask again, what exactly are the tasks required of the victim in order to win the bonus room? It never ends. No one ever wins. The hosts of this Bonus Room keep moving the goal posts forever by tacking on endless chores. The idea is the player will always give up in the end, thus making it look like it is their own fault. That's not *entirely* accurate. I'm not at liberty to say what constitutes a winner, and what, precisely, they recieve.... but there HAVE been winners, and they DO end up quite spacerich.
total bollox. there are no winners just the bullshat belief that there is a chance of winning,
there never was a chance at winning. but no one would play if they knew that. so these scammming idiots have to foster the belief that you can win. even though they never will.
i give up with you lot. anyone want to buy some land on the moon? |

Salvos Rhoska
723
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:35:00 -
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What exactly and specifically must the victim do in order to win the Bonus Round?
Is it so, that it is required that the victim must submit to commensurate abuse, humiliation, degradation, and the assignment of arbitrary demands, in order to win? |

Space Juden
Supermassive Potato Pancake
50
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:36:00 -
[4707] - Quote
Well we know that people engaged in hazing/bullying purport to have won in order to?
Give the victim false hope.
At lest that's what we can tell from the recording |

Ais Hellia
The Deliberate Forces HYDRA RELOADED
40
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:37:00 -
[4708] - Quote
Salvos Rhoska wrote:What exactly and specifically must the victim do in order to win the Bonus Round?
Why do you keep calling retards "victims"?
and you know in real worlds there are real victims suffering from real tortures and comparing them to a grown man crying over space-pixels is A REAL INSULT to them |

Korhaka Mirunas
Unkindness Incorporated Unkind Initiative
8
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:38:00 -
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Wait a sec, this reminds me of something that happened just before the Mittani got himself banned when telling people to make the guy kill himself, just before Mittani (Think it was a wormhole group) Had a selection of videos where they held people ransom until they would sing their national anthem. Was that really so different to this? That was also broadcast at fanfest, so it got plenty of views without tears. |

Space Juden
Supermassive Potato Pancake
50
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:38:00 -
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Ais Hellia wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:What exactly and specifically must the victim do in order to win the Bonus Round?
Why do you keep calling retards "victims"? and you know in real worlds there are real victims suffering from real tortures and comparing them to a grown man crying over space-pixels is A REAL INSULT to them
You don't call someone whose given away his assets through manipulation and made to degrade himself a victim? What do you call a victim? |
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