BPOs are suppose to be like PLEX or rare items, they are investments. Literally no one who is remotely intelligent is ever going to use a POS for copying after this change. The risk is too extreme. Sure, I keep around 1 - 2B in materials in my manufacturing POS, but my 10 - 15B worth of BPOs will never ever be taken to a POS. Why would I ever make such a risk? Unless you bring the copy time on Advanced Labs down to something obscene like .10 multiplier or give 10x the copy yield, then NO ONE is EVER going to copy at a POS ever again.

This response is at best disingenuous. The vast majority of people locking down blueprints for use in a POS are in stations that don't have those slots. In short, this change screws the VAST majority of us without recourse.

CCP please reimburse me five-hundred (500) skill points.

Oh, and one more thing: I might have missed it but will the GÇ£congestion chargesGÇ¥ count up per activity or in total? And/or will it be split by the actual installation?

In other words, will my manufacturing be more expensive because I'm in a station that sees a lot of ME research? Or will my ME research become more expensive because I'm using a lab array that already holds a bajillion invention jobs (but if I pick lab #2, I won't have to pay that tax)? Or is it rather the case in both examples that my manufacturing is only made more expensive by other manufacturing and my ME by other ME jobs, both of them happening in the exact same installation that I'm using?


GǪor should I wait for the fifth blog before asking?

It's almost like this is adding risk if players want free researching...

Holy risk aversion, Batman.

People with the stones to accept the risk will totally do it. This is how the game is changing, in most things -- accepting risk allows you to profit.

Allow Starbases to be anchored anywhere in high-security space and without standing requirements (minus some protected solar systems, like Jita or new player starting systems of course).

I have a feeling that the answers to this might be a wait if that indication about the costs blog earlier is correct, but right now almost all outpost upgrade paths are related to increasing slots in the outpost. These changes look as though they are going to throw that out the window. Given the reprocessing changes as well and changes to station base refining, does that mean we will get an outpost blog at some point clarifying all the changes to upgrades and outpost changes?

Except that now the risk is very high while the reward is very low. Manufacturing was never a very rewarding gameplay feature.

Are there any plans to provide some other reason to have faction standings? Selling POS corps was a small but reasonable income stream for anyone who took the time and effort to grind out faction standings. I'm not exactly sad to see that mechanic go, but it does mean faction standings are now essentially useless. Other than those few (not at all worth the effort) one-time BPC agents at the extreme upper end, it seems like faction standings are nothing more than an RP thing now.

Researching at a POS is not free. First, fuel costs went up by a huge factor with the fuel blocks, which someone has to pay for, and then this. Your post makes literally no sense at all.

Holy risk aversion, Batman.

People with the stones to accept the risk will totally do it. This is how the game is changing, in most things -- accepting risk allows you to profit.

Yeah, that's a good point, we'll note that one down.

Should probably wait. To your previous post, the UI is going to reduce the number of clicks required to both install and preview/adjust a job to almost none. Our goal was driven by the idea that we want both batch and single blueprint job installation to be painless but fun. I don't want to spoil the next few blogs so I will leave it at that.

As to the cost scaling based on activity in a system, I will simply say that you should notice the impact on cost of working in a busy system, but the blog should go into all the detail you need.

No, actually, it's really not. You get wardecced, you cancel the job, you cycle the pos to a new corporation, you restart the job. I guess this makes the job interruptible, but not truly at risk.

Sure, this is a humorous thing, but the larger point is that there is an entire system in place for this. You are basically destroying a system that has been in place since invention was added to the game. You are forcing insane amounts of risk that can almost never be given a proper reward for without either destroying the eve economy, or over buffing POS copying. I do not think that the devs who proposed this change can come even close to understanding the ramifications for it.

This whole Dev Blog has convinced me that the Dev's have zero understanding of how industrialists work in this game. This will end up being like the bad nerfs to Incursions that had to be backed out because they rendered incursions unplayable. When you can't buy ships because we won't make them, you know who to come back and complain to.

Or, everything gets switched to station manufacturing, and the prices on everything goes through the roof as a result. Yay, inflation! Good job, Devs!

Is there a SINGLE Dev who spent significant time building things in this game, or are you just all from Goons and the like? I'm trying really hard to keep this positive, but it's a challenge. It's clear to me that the days of horribly bad decisions on the part of CCP are very far from over. You're out of side projects like WoD to kill to make up for bad decisions like this. What will you kill next?

Holy risk aversion, Batman.

People with the stones to accept the risk will totally do it. This is how the game is changing, in most things -- accepting risk allows you to profit.

And the obvious question has to be asked ofc, will the industry changes be tied into CREST ?

I hate to be that guy, but: any content for shooting-at-people stuff, or any development along the explore-new-shenanigans and make-new-implants realm?

Allow Starbases to be anchored anywhere in high-security space and without standing requirements (minus some protected solar systems, like Jita or new player starting systems of course).

was it planetary interaction or something else that had restricted systems :S

e: there we go