If you want to call me out that's fine, but two can play that game so. Please point out where I said this? If you can't I'll expect an apology

Also please dont try and paraphrase me cos that sort of **** pisses me off.

I've posted what I think on this, I'm not to happy about it like most people, will I be discussing it with CCP, yes.

Which is why I also asked for people to be constructive and post what they think on this as that can also potentially help me.

Now if you mean this.



This isn't me.

Should I expect the apology here or in the mail?

http://i.imgur.com/hPQktFT.png plz

A wormhole generator...

or a ship that can gradually reduce the mass of a wormhole without jumping would counteract this change in a small way...

I really would love to debate with you further but i have always held the policy of not replying to NPC alts, even a well known NPC alt like yours.

Apparently though if you don't agree with the masses and think the change is good people think that instead of debating the reasoning with you they have some right to ask where i get my experience from or what is your corp history.

(long description of high-class fleet stand-offs)

People don't complain when they think things are stale and boring either, they just leave to do other things in the game or leave the game all together. Look at current login player numbers over a week period, look at the breakup of so many groups and their major consolidation of WH groups into only a few players and tell me you think everyone is happy with the current form of WH's.

Do you really think the way WH's are at the moment are in anyway interesting and fun? (trying not to answer a question with a question but..)

Look the only thing i don't like about this change is it isn't showing any consistency in the goal direction of WH space from CCP and that concerns me that they are not being open with what they want from us.

- They leave instant sig overlay (carebear safe mode)
- They come up with a 5min delay for new sigs (no carebears will stay)
- Then they forget they ever mentioned the idea (back to carebear mode)
- They removed sleeper API data becauseit was too powerfull (carebears get a little safer)
- Now this change (clearly a PVP driven idea)

They need to be more consistent with the direction they want to take because they are not balancing it well currently.


Do you think this change will result in more activity in wormhole space (more wormhole connections, more people running sites, more people rolling) or less? [i] Please explain your answer. [/i


I think if they wanted to do something that resulted in more people in WH space they could have chosen something else entirely instead of this, i have never once said this will result in more people in Wh's. The above carebear mode changes have resulted in more people in wh space (You can't deny that)

What i have said is the current way all these players in Wh space interact with each other is stale and SAFE. The people in this thread that are trying to say its not perfectly safe to roll away hostile chains are ******* delusional. There is only very situational times that you can ever kill people rolling away a C5/6 chain on you.

How many times have you found a group you thought would and could fight you only to hear your scout say "nevermind they are rolling" when they want to do it is all over by then with not a thing you can do and that group then picks and chooses its interactions with whoever they want in what is supposed to be a dangerous area of the game.

I actually do feel this will lead to more fun had by WH people and more interactions, the larger groups will still roll holes like they always have with it only taking them a few minutes longer and yes the smaller groups may be more hesitant to do so but now instead of them safely picking the perfect chain whenever they want they will be forced to scan a chain they may have just rolled away because they saw a known entity in the chain.

So yes i think it will lead to less people rolling chains but maybe they shouldn't be rolling away non optimal chains and be forced to interact with other players in an MMO. If you want a safe escalation period and roll away or crit your static you should be at risk to make that happen. if you want to get your 30B or so escalation loot to HS or replace that fleet you just lost you should have to risk more then just rolling the C5 or C6 untill you get a C2/3 HS, you should have to go down some more risky chains or be forced to risk a little more to roll that chain to get the one you want.

The way it is is too easy and too safe. Not only is it safe to roll now it is STOPPING interactions with other players by the chains you get to pick and choose at will in perfect safety at no cost.

If by your own arguments it will stop rage rolling in its tracks then won't people by that same argument be more inclined to run sites if they feel safer that less people are rolling? Won't they then leave their chain open for you to find them? Or bubble it up now for "safety"?

You guys need to accept this is happening and you are probably too late to stop it and instead start working on ideas and iterations on how you think they could make it better TBH.

EDIT: Loving the hate mail from your alts by the way guys, i feed off that thanks.

Hey Corby,

I would like to pint out a few ideas. Some of those have been pointed out previously but I think it is important to mentions them. So here is my list of small things.

18. Make it so that the higher of the ship mass the further it spawns from the wormhole by jumping through. Would increase the ability to catch rolling ships, would make rage rolling slower.

Being a pilot who has always been part of smaller wormhole pvp fleets. There is always 2 ways to handle a very large wormhole entity that you get connected to.

Option 1: Combat roll the hole
Option 2: Afk in POS for the day

If this change takes effect there will be only 1 of those options left...

Stuff

Good afternoon everyone.

We'll be posting a dev blog with the whole collection of proposed changes next week and we will be very interested in taking your feedback then. In the meantime I advise you all to not panic. Nobody is out to get you.
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