3. When i see this ship in a circle i think of something like targeting, maybe bounty office or so.

I think if this is the quality of work we can expect from rolling releases, CCP should reconsider going to twice yearly "updates"

Hey I dont know if this is the right place to ask but is there a way to lock a menu item on the screen?
Since if i pin the dscan window it can still be moved with when accidentally hitting the top bar thingy..
I guess its kind of like locking a layer in photoshop so you cant edit it or move it around. It just stays in position the way you set it up initially.

The Ship fitting icon is representing the Fitting window itself in an abstract way. The window has ships in the middle and then High slot on top, Mid slot to the right and Low slot below. The one to the left represent rigs/subsystems.

There really is nothing like updates that are tested by and liked by the player base and this new UI really is nothing like it.

I think if this is the quality of work we can expect from rolling releases, CCP should reconsider going to twice yearly "updates" and spend the remainder of the time finding out what players want or even fixing some of the long time issues to make existing aspects of the game better instead of releasing pretty colored themes that really do nothing to enhance game play.

Half finished, ill thought out updates, that bring nothing to the game and quite simply are a giant step backwards is not a good move for an established game.

The lighting on the new UI is just terribad (when using optimize for performance), theme choices on the whole look cheap.

New icons, well they "are" just cheap and will need to be changed as soon as they go out of vogue (in about 6 months going by current trends).
White lettering for chat channels with white highlighting (who was the idiot thought that was a good idea). White lettering on a black background is ok, until you put white highlighting over it.

Maybe the term "update" needs to be redefined. I always thought it meant, improving on the existing, making something better than it was previously. CCP's definition seems to be, cheap and nasty with no real thought as to how it affects game play or if it even brings anything new to the game.

-1 for effort - there just doesn't seem to have been any.
-1 for something new and interesting - it just isn't.
-1 for player options - You took them all away.
+1 for released on time - shame it is just not good.

The Ship fitting icon is representing the Fitting window itself in an abstract way. The window has ships in the middle and then High slot on top, Mid slot to the right and Low slot below. The one to the left represent rigs/subsystems.

Regarding being able to reason or recognize an icon from the beginning. Our primary goal was to make the icons recognizable once you had learned what they represent, it is an impossible task to make abstract icons unique from each other but still perfectly represent what they stand for when you see them for the first time. The most important thing is that it will become easy to memorize after a certain time, but we know it takes time and we understand the frustration of having to do that after having had them unchanged for so long. Our studies show however that those who are coming in as new players are remembering these icons much quicker than before and one of the core reasons for it is because the icons don't use specific colors. Then we don't store information about colors to remember icons but rather focus on their shapes.

We are of course always willing to discuss good arguments for how features and actions can be better represented with abstract icons, but for changes like these it is necessary to collect metrics and data for some time before doing drastic changes.

It's interesting to discuss which icons are meeting their goals and which are not. The Wallet icon for example uses the established and well known ISK currency icon that is a unique currency icon for ISK used in EVE and was designed more than 10 years ago. No other icon resembles it so it stands out very easily from others. But for those that don't know the currency icon for ISK it of course might not speak to you for the first time, but the primary goal was to make learning the icons with time quicker than before.

Hope this gives a bit of insight into our strategy with the new UI icons.

Fly safe.

The blinky and gloomy "holographic" interface is funny, when you read about it in a book.
But it is ******* abusive to the eyes, when you have to work with it in person.
I have to close eyes and wait through all the blinking of, i.e. character selection screen, or gate transition phase, else my eyes strain in minutes. I just can't stand the flashing. It is literally painful, not metaphorically.

Disregard.

[quote=Mara Kell]Regarding being able to reason or recognize an icon from the beginning. Our primary goal was to make the icons recognizable once you had learned what they represent, it is an impossible task to make abstract icons unique from each other but still perfectly represent what they stand for when you see them for the first time. The most important thing is that it will become easy to memorize after a certain time, but we know it takes time and we understand the frustration of having to do that after having had them unchanged for so long. Our studies show however that those who are coming in as new players are remembering these icons much quicker than before and one of the core reasons for it is because the icons don't use specific colors. Then we don't store information about colors to remember icons but rather focus on their shapes.

We are of course always willing to discuss good arguments for how features and actions can be better represented with abstract icons, but for changes like these it is necessary to collect metrics and data for some time before doing drastic changes.

could we have a choice if we want the old ones or new ones I think that all people really want

This summarizes what I believe most players would be most accepting of, me included.

Dear CCP devs, i have a simple question, and maybe i can get an answer as a christmas present or so.

Are you planning or intending to make an option to deactivate the highlighting of the active UI window?

Now it's been over 10 years since i started playing this game, but the station UI now looks exactly how i remember it did when the game was first designed to work on dial up connection......

Are you running out of ideas and going backwards as no one will remember it?

I realize not every mouse supports mouse scroll wheel left and right