This is going to heavily incentivize ice-bergging again. The timers basically need to preserve 2-3 fights before huge consequences (freeport) and have a FAR bigger bonus to high indexes. A 5/5 index system should take at least 1 hour if not 2. At least until someone fixes freaking industry indexes god.

Precisely, it's no surprise that they're being hyped up as gamebreaking by TMC and on this thread - it's because goons don't want them to threaten their sprawl and want to get rid of them now.

Precisely, it's no surprise that they're being hyped up as gamebreaking by TMC and on this thread - it's because goons don't want them to threaten their sprawl and want to get rid of them now.

Or I could use a cheapass cruiser and block the link....


Stop the melodrama. Interceptors threaten sprawling, indefensible empires. NOTHING MORE.

Stop being bad, stop derailing with FUD about "trollceptors" and maybe we can all get a decent future.


These phantom interceptors threats are nothing short of a nonsense if you live in your space.

I have no connection to Goons whatsoever. I live in a single constellation that my alliance owns. I'm worried about these interceptors trolling and keeping me from being able to go have real fights by either swatting at them or endlessly counter-camping.

That fact that it takes 50 hulks several hours a day to maintain level 5 index vs a few ratter a couples hours a day to maintain military index is so far into the stupid category it isn't funny

That and you spent how many months revamping Industry, then screwed it up by removing teams with NO restitution, NOW you plan on implementing a sov mechanic based on occupancy and don't take into account ANY industry that goes on in a system.

So basically, shoot red X's or you are ****

the inteceptor then shrugs, burns off grid, and hits another node or sov structure, and cannot be stopped if the pilot uses a shred of intellect while burning around a region

you can't bridge around them due to fatigue, you can't warp faster than them, and outside of serious pilot error, they cannot be caught while traveling

stop focusing on the individual fight (especially since you are bad at theorycrafting them)

With this revamp, small scale ships will be promoted in null sec. To be honest, I don't want a copy-paste of the low-sec factionnal warfare in null sec.

RIP capital ships ?

I have no connection to Goons whatsoever. I live in a single constellation that my alliance owns. I'm worried about these interceptors trolling and keeping me from being able to go have real fights by either swatting at them or endlessly counter-camping.

Hat, thy name is tinfoil.

Again, an empire of APPROPRIATE SIZE will give zero craps about this.

Funny that.

What, all 4 hours of "prime time" YOU DICTATE?

The horror you might have a 4 hour kill farming window.

WOE IS ME.

Endlessly... for four hours in the actual space you're actively using anyways.


Oh look here's one of them, surprisingly you don't like the idea of them either and try to disparage my remarks rather than dealing with the fact that the obvious counter is pretty much ANYTHING in the game sitting at zero and running a defensive link. You could probably do it with a rorqual whilst boosting your mining fleet if you really want to bait them into an actual fight

I'm confident that we've got enough manpower to give "zero craps" about this, and that if anything, we're actually trying to point out an actual problem which'll affect other, smaller groups than us to a much greater degree.

But that'd be ludicrous, right? Because grrgoons.

Again, an empire of APPROPRIATE SIZE will give zero craps about this.

Funny that.

Endlessly... for four hours in the actual space you're actively using anyways.


Oh look here's one of them, surprisingly you don't like the idea of them either and try to disparage my remarks rather than dealing with the fact that the obvious counter is pretty much ANYTHING in the game sitting at zero and running a defensive link. You could probably do it with a rorqual whilst boosting your mining fleet if you really want to bait them into an actual fight

The goal of defense isn't to bait attackers to fight, it's the other way around. Sitting at zero with anything for defense is basically iceberging. The goal isn't to create more camping, but actual fights. Interceptors are one way to show that this does not actually create dynamic fights.

Attackers SHOULD have the initiative in conflict. Defenders SHOULD be reactive. It's kinda the way these things generally work.

The interceptors ALWAYS have a choice to engage the defender that is forced to come out of their station and react to their presence.

Then you can try to bait them into attacking the wrong ship at the wrong time if you want and turn the tables. If you want more pvp yourself, go out and attack other people, force them to come and defend their territory and get some GFs of your own.

#1) Who wants coalitions gone? I like coalitions, personally. I've never seen anyone whining that coalitions are the issue.

the problem is that the appropriate size to counter interceptor shenanigans increases by ten for every pilot in the opfor

did it occur to you that with our numbers, we can make any defense untenable

If the changes goes through like they are now, I'm unironically going to take a 200 man interceptor fleet to Provi and reinforce the entire region in 4 hours.

Sounds like good content creation - then they'll just flip it back 2 days later once you're bored of it - or are you actually then going to commit to fighting there, inhabiting the space and raising the indices yourself?

It'd be great to see Goons come through on this, own the whole map for 2 days if you think you can - I'd be a willing spectator to a player driven event like that.

Like you did with siphons? The same melodrama was used there. And sure, for a while indeed ....then people got bored

You're missing the point. We decide what and where to fight when we're in interceptors. Sure, we might not get all the reinforcement timers but we're going to deny you content other than using Entosis Links.

So you're gonna provide me content by taking an interceptor roam across provi for four hours and somehow you're going to deny me content... just so I know that you know, what does my main actually do in the game that you're going to deny me of?