won't take us four hours to RF the entire region, just 30 minutes

Suggestion:
FORCE alliances to choose one DIFFERENT time window for each constellation where they hold sov.
Implications:.......

won't take us four hours to RF the entire region, just 30 minutes

Sounds like good content creation - then they'll just flip it back 2 days later once you're bored of it - or are you actually then going to commit to fighting there, inhabiting the space and raising the indices yourself?

It'd be great to see Goons come through on this, own the whole map for 2 days if you think you can - I'd be a willing spectator to a player driven event like that.

Not sure I'd call 200 interceptors avoiding me in my space content tbh.

Not sure I'd call 200 interceptors avoiding me in my space content tbh.

agreed

i dunno if y'all noticed but if at any point a goonswarm federation fleet creates "content" we have failed in our primary objective

(we fail quite a bit of course but hey the struggle of man is to continually try to meet the platonic ideal, even if you never get there)

Just because we fail frequently doesn't mean others automatically win.

Otherwise our 0.0 nightmare would've ended already

So you're gonna provide me content by taking an interceptor roam across provi for four hours and somehow you're going to deny me content... just so I know that you know, what does my main actually do in the game that you're going to deny me of?

Actually... can we get a clarification on whether the increase in Entosis cycle time on capitals increases the time it takes them to capture, or if it only increases the time it takes them to start capturing?

Sure we need Sov changes

but

where is the risk for the attacker? this is just an annyoing system that force sov holder to constantly show up to timers just because a random pubby RFed a system just 4 fun

increase the module price up to 100m-500m or let this module only be fitted on caps or increase the timer by 3x-8x

After discussing the early feedback with the team here, we've decided to begin this feedback and iteration process with a focus on the time zone mechanics. We're seeing a ton of discussion and quite a bit of displeasure over the time zone mechanics as they are laid out in the blog.
So you're going to see us asking a lot of questions in a number of different areas to the players who have opinions on the way we handle time zones in Sov. The goal is to get to the core of the concerns people are expressing about these mechanics, figure out what player needs we are missing in this draft, and see if we can't design a system that meets more of those needs more effectively. I don't expect we're going to make everybody happy, as time zone mechanics are one of the stickiest design issues in a worldwide single shard MMO. However we do think it's likely that your feedback can help get us to a better design than what we have right now.

No, that's the point. We're not going to provide any content to whatever alliance holds the space. We're going to take their sov with an interceptor fleet because we dictate the battles and they will be unable to catch all of us. Which is essentially almost like Dominion sov where n+1 always wins.

You can't dictate a battle when you're all in ships that do <100 dps. Sure you can cyno some caps in to one or two systems at a time, maybe even try moving them through gates to assist in multiple command point fights but when you're dedicating your numbers into essentially useless combat hulls you won't be able to hold a grid to complete your RFs or captures without bringing in reinforcements in far more killable ships.

You can't dictate a battle when you're all in ships that do <100 dps. Sure you can cyno some caps in to one or two systems at a time, maybe even try moving them through gates to assist in multiple command point fights but when you're dedicating your numbers into essentially useless combat hulls you won't be able to hold a grid to complete your RFs or captures without bringing in reinforcements in far more killable ships.

Are you high?

People that are worried about the T2 Entosis link range of 250km been op.

it sounds like its a targeted module, so whatever ship fits it can only burn around in a bubble of its own target range, not the full 250k bubble

The primetime idea definitely needs a different idea behind it

People that are worried about the T2 Entosis link range of 250km been op.

it sounds like its a targeted module, so whatever ship fits it can only burn around in a bubble of its own target range, not the full 250k bubble

The primetime idea definitely needs a different idea behind it

a little

but would it be fun if a single person can reinforce your POS or POCO just because he had a noobship and activate a module for 10min? that would be a timer where you have to show up

We can torch half of the south in less than an hour with said ships under these changes. We dont even need to fire a shot.

You can't dictate a battle when you're all in ships that do <100 dps. Sure you can cyno some caps in to one or two systems at a time, maybe even try moving them through gates to assist in multiple command point fights but when you're dedicating your numbers into essentially useless combat hulls you won't be able to hold a grid to complete your RFs or captures without bringing in reinforcements in far more killable ships.

What are you talking about? If we reinforce the entire region we just move 7 jumps to another constallation and voil+í and bunch of new timers. By the time the 5 minute Entosis cycle is done the hostile fleet might have arrived if they're flying frigates - Which, with 200 people will end quickly. If they're flying anything larger than that they'll never catch up to us before we finish our reinforcement cycles.

They could take a jump bridge, but then next time we move they'll have jump fatigue and won't be able to do it again for +5 minutes.

I've been thinking about these blitzing inty fleets. My first though was about all the tools at our disposal to counter such lol-fit ships, for which there are plenty. However, further pondering has brought to mine the underlying problem that is driving this ridiculous scenario:

It comes down to the battle of effort. Sov. war, over the years, has basically evolved into break-their-will campaigns, where you first exhaust your opponent's will to fight long before you successfully take their space. The problem with the proposed scenario isn't so much inty's RF'ing structures, but that the effort to reclaim those structures is pretty heavy.

We can prevent inties and dessies from fitting the entosis link, but we'll still have the same situation. It is very easy for an organization to segregate their fleet into many, many small parts that simultaneously attack the sov of many structures. While many of these individuals will be countered, many more will also succeed. This is true anytime you have an empire expanding more than a constellation. Every successfully RF'd structure then results in a not insignificant effort by the defenders to reclaim the system or lose it.

The disparity is in the effort to RF the structure vs the effort to reclaim it. That is really what needs to be balanced.

Truth be told, if no one shows up, I believe the structures should revert back to the original owners control naturally. Also, I feel like there needs to be an additional step (i.e. an investment in effort) before the attackers truly make sov vulnerable.

Focusing on link fit inties is really sidetracking us from the above discussion, which is something we should be having.

Where are you people getting these numbers from? Your arguments are based on a while assumption someone made on the first page that you could fit this module to a ceptor, of which i can find absolutely none, nada, zip, nothing offical as to what the fitting requirments would be.

After a 100page threadnaught im sure the Devs get it. Fitting these on ceptors will be a bad idea and totally OP. Give Fozzie and Rise and the rest of the Dev team dealing with Sov and ship balancing a little credit.