your coalition policy is creating boredom for it's members and foes. embrace it. that's how your leaders want it to be. no fun allowed.

do the same thing you did when you were forced to grind structures in bombers

The new mechanics killing the game? So after DRF seized to exist and a blue blob formed in the north and a series of blue blobs in the south, the game subscription began to take a tomble. There was some events that did not really measured up to their hipe and some disapointments began. There was very few actual good events. Before 2013, eve is full of series of great events.
In 2013 the game so famous chart of user subscription that people keep showing on an on, it shows a steady decrease for ages of pilots. I am a been playing this game forever. So it shows a steadelly decreasing since before Sep 2013. It not this sov. So thats debunked! No more lies plz. This is put to rest!

You cant fight fight cos there is no one to shoot. How many times i got to say this? You got too many blues! Its your fault not CCP! The level of stagnation is defined by level acitivty. If players like you are so bent on staying and set everyone to blue well what do you get? I mean seriously what you expect? Another DRF? Maybe who knows but you still got old DRF members blue or friendly. So i dont see how this is going to happen....Agin your fault, just in case you miss that too!
I am not happy to lose game subscription even thought I was one of the people shooting Jita monument in the riot.

Thats one reason I want people to reset to go back to the old chaotic eve, that was much more fun. These were the days when there was not so much blues.

Being universally despised as an opponent is not exaclty the same as being invincible. Nobody wants to play with you or like you play, we prefer enjoying our lives and computer games.

Damn that must have been one tough solo pvp myrm, 34 of eves best to kill him.
Now that's some pretty awesome content right there.

I'm getting plenty of fights in my alliance thanks. And I'm not the one complaining about a lack of content or fights. I was referring to the posters who are complaining about having no-one to shoot while surrounded by blues.

They aren't the only reason for the drop in population, but they are certainly a contributing factor to the recent dip. Go ahead and pull out the stats and there's a clear drop at each stage of this sov release.

And if you've been around for a long time, you should know that a major selling point of EVE has always been the massive fleet battles. Those are almost dead now and will be further reduced if these mechanics continue to be rolled out.

It will not happen. If CCP aren't putting in reasons for us to fight, we're not going to do it. That's like asking a shopkeeper to stop selling his best selling products just for a challenge. It makes no sense. If null stagnates further it's all on CCP. If they can't design a game that drives conflict then their game will die. It's really that simple.

The issue isn't all of FozzieSov, a majority of us like the concept. It needs work, however.

Zipping around at 4 km/s, in an interceptor, and clicking a button should not in any way give you ownership in null sec sovereignty. Sovereignty should be fought over and influence a push of assets by group A versus current sov citizens group B. If an entity wants to take space, they need to dedicate themselves to it, not send a lone interceptor with the belief "If you don't get it now, just go back and try again in a little bit. They will eventually get tired of responding."
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While there was a significant increase of user during the dominion and DRF invasion, it was followed by a quick downfall.
The battle aint all. ISK drives it too big time. During Dominion it was really easy to make much more isk due to bugs and the trend at that time that everyone wanted to move to null. There was no system that did not have a carrrier. Everyone was ratting like crazy. High sec numbers went really down and high sec war deckers whined and CCP fixed the bugs and then nerfed it. Number began to take a tumble again. Now CCP made it really easy to make even more isk wit hthe buff to systems. There are so many anomolies I cant eevn count them!

The most significant change is without a doubt is that there is not enough action in eve. In the last few years the same sov did jack for numbers even with B-R5RB event. Its not sov. Its people opting out of pvp and unsubscribing alts. If I was in the CFC, I would probably unsubsribe too my alts. There is so much safety in numbers that makes no sence to have alts. Besides you are not getting the fights.

NCDot and DRF did not have a reason to fight besides beef over past eve events. Not CCP, but eve players. B-R5RB was pritty much an accident from a bad decision from N3. They ignored the first rule in eve when capitals. Load grid first or suicide.
War between the russians that just ended, also a beef over events in the past. Goons causing the destruction of BOB, also a beef event. The destruction of Atlas also a beef. The destruction of PL in fountain also over beef. The destruction of Goons by IT Alliance also a beef. The invasion of Goons into Esoteria and subsecuent dispatched of Goons back home was also over a beef in a thread. The first war between Goons and BOB also over a beef.
CCP DOES NOT PUT THE REASON TO FIGHT. PLAYERS DRAMA DOES IT ALL THE TIME!!!!!!
I cant believe your character is so old and you havent noticed this already?
Its players that generate content not CCP! Quit blaiming them for your faults!

The issue isn't all of FozzieSov, a majority of us like the concept. It needs work, however.

Zipping around at 4 km/s, in an interceptor, and clicking a button should not in any way give you ownership in null sec sovereignty. Sovereignty should be fought over and influence a push of assets by group A versus current sov citizens group B. If an entity wants to take space, they need to dedicate themselves to it, not send a lone interceptor with the belief "If you don't get it now, just go back and try again in a little bit. They will eventually get tired of responding."

Another issue is there needs to be some form of shooting something, but I believe that will be addressed with the citadels patch.

I am willing to bet once people start entosis'ing things in ships cruiser size and up you will see some fights start developing.



Also please ignore the MoA trolling (and obvious alts), they use to be in CFC and are just mad at us for kicking them from the pack. Try and stay on topic.

you are quite right. it's not zipping around in interceptor that gives the ownership, it's failure of defenders to show up.
if an entity wants to hold space, they need to dedicate themselves to it, and show up for defense. it shouldn't be based on defender sitting docked up protected by gazillions of HP

Sov didn't do much, but news articles of epic battles with $300,000 in damages did and those battles occurred because of committed assets in null. Those types of battles will no longer occur under the current system since people no longer need to commit assets to take sov.

How long would you tolerate a kid playing ding dong ditch at your door?

You can't unplug the door bell (they will just knock instead) but if you decide to ignore them, they get to own a room in your house.

Does anyone actually have any number of how many of those "media event" created account stayed sub instead of quitting for various reason when they realized getting in those meaningful battle wasn't exactly guaranteed?

So he may not have his own doorbell you can ring, but is there something stopping you giving the kid a beat down?

You could make his life a misery.

And I'm not talking about catching the inty. Go RF all their POS, hellcamp the place the call home. Go dish out some retribution.

How long would you tolerate a kid playing ding dong ditch at your door?

You can't unplug the door bell (they will just knock instead) but if you decide to ignore them, they get to own a room in your house.

Does anyone actually have any number of how many of those "media event" created account stayed sub instead of quitting for various reason when they realized getting in those meaningful battle wasn't exactly guaranteed?

Then why not make it so entosis modules can only go on a a BC or above? If the defenders don't show up, then ship type is irrelevant. The only reason people want to use interceptors is so they can run away when defenders do show up. Tell me I'm wrong.

Sov didn't do much, but news articles of epic battles with $300,000 in damages did and those battles occurred because of committed assets in null. Those types of battles will no longer occur under the current system since people no longer need to commit assets to take sov.

So waste even more of your time doing boring things while they jump clone to highsec or play on alts and hide out until you go away?

very good analogy. you have a choice. you either come to kids house and make sure he never does it again, or hire someone to stand in front of the door. or stand behind the door so you can punch the kid in the face as soon as he does it.

or you can ignore it and let the kid occupy couple of your rooms. choice is entirely yours.

one thing you most certainly can't to is ask god to prevent kids from ringing doorbells. well you can, but the response will be silence and laughs from those around you

So he may not have his own doorbell you can ring, but is there something stopping you giving the kid a beat down?

You could make his life a misery.

And I'm not talking about catching the inty. Go RF all their POS, hellcamp the place the call home. Go dish out some retribution.

very good analogy. you have a choice. you either come to kids house and make sure he never does it again, or hire someone to stand in front of the door. or stand behind the door so you can punch the kid in the face as soon as he does it.

or you can ignore it and let the kid occupy couple of your rooms. choice is entirely yours.

one thing you most certainly can't to is ask god to prevent kids from ringing doorbells. well you can, but the response will be silence and laughs from those around you

Too bad the kid might own nothing of "value" beside his alliance tag right? Or I guess I can hell camp a NPC station for months on end while he just jump clone to another and undock a new interceptor and come back to my door.

If MOA for example always committed their cerberus fleet every single time they entosis a system, I'm pretty sure everybody would be happy to have to defend the damn system because something would happen. I know they do it at least some time but that does not remove the stupidity that are all the ding dong ditch happening all the time by lone interceptor that also can't be ignored.

What is so damn bad about asking that the barrier of entry to owning SOV be something like a fielding a small cruiser fleet? I'm not asking for caps or supers or a 256 battleship force. I'm just asking for the guy who want to own territory to have to commit something more than a single throw away nimble ship. Am I really asking for too much with that?

Then why not make it so entosis modules can only go on a a BC or above? If the defenders don't show up, then ship type is irrelevant. The only reason people want to use interceptors is so they can run away when defenders do show up. Tell me I'm wrong.

What is so damn bad about asking that the barrier of entry to owning SOV be something like a fielding a small cruiser fleet? I'm not asking for caps or supers or a 256 battleship force. I'm just asking for the guy who want to own territory to have to commit something more than a single throw away nimble ship. Am I really asking for too much with that?

Is this a subliminal "Hire PL today!" pitch I see?

That was a pretty funny yet accurate analogy by Frosty though hah. For arguments sake, imagine this kid lives in government owned orphanage housing and only goes out with his Harry Potter invisibility cloak and Nimbus 2000. So when you go to respond he either A. disappears from sight or B. zips away at blazing speeds so nothing can really be done about it. You also can't really do anything about his current living situation because it's government property.

like i said - hire someone to stand in front of the door.
or create a roster for people in your household to stand in front of the door.

plenty of people are AFK cloaking in other people's systems to disrupt activities of carebears. you need to do the same in your own systems and trolling ceptors won't be a thing anymore.

or you could actually live in your systems, how's that for a novel idea?

very good analogy. you have a choice. you either come to kids house and make sure he never does it again, or hire someone to stand in front of the door. or stand behind the door so you can punch the kid in the face as soon as he does it.

Troll status confirmed. The only reason to being an evasion fit interceptor is to evade. All of this horseshit about it being against defenders who don't show up is ridiculous.

The point is that undefended sov should be easy to take. When a defender shows up though then conflict should be driven. Interceptors mean that players can assault sov with no intention of fighting and no intention of taking sov. It's dumb.