Originally by: Kalindra naskan

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Edited by: Kalindra naskan on 11/02/2007 00:44:55

Originally by: Adunh Slavy

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Originally by: Counterparty

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WHen every self-righteous eula-thumping innocence-feigning poster quits, yes it would be better around here. The posters ranting that their subscription payment entitles them to render judgements of holy purification on the devs don't make a better game.

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We are customers, we have every right.

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You don't have any right at all!
CCP is offering you a service that they completely own, and are free to do whatever they want with.
Paying to use a service does not give you any kind of power to change decisions or how CCP operates.

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Originally by: Galea Wildfang

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You spineless alt can just stop here. People state their feelings, concerns and believes in this thread, most of them once, a few of them a little more often. And whatever you say (if anything at all) will not change that. So STFU. Too bad this thread is not located in the sell forum, else you'd receive a warning for each bump after the first (per day that is).

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Originally by: VENOM2k99

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We all know that someone in BOB was involve, don't BS us.
T20 should take his balls in his hand, and tell who was involve in BOB.

CCP should kick this guy out who risk the job of their co-workers and the GAME. Many have cancelled their accounts and it will continue until CCP punish BOB.

Now it's clear for all of us that BOB took avantage, for many of us, they dominate because of that.

I hope they get their ass kicked in the war.

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Originally by: 18 Rabbit

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The one certainty here is that 90% of the people threatening to quit won't actually do so, and that's especially true for those with multiple accounts.

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Originally by: Liquid Vision

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Just know that if I ever see you in space I'm coming in guns blazing. Pets like you make me sick.

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Originally by: kieron

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Recent allegations of developer misconduct have been the subject of much conversation in the EVE community and CCP. We have made a few recent statements to address these allegations, and listened to the community response.

In my last statement to the community, I promised that more would be forthcoming before the start of the weekend. Based on community response, we've addressed lingering questions and concerns in two different Dev Blogs.

Please read t20's Dev Blog, "On Recent Allegations" and Hellmar's Dev Blog, "The Commitment".

It is our hopes these Blogs will address the remainder of the EVE community's concerns over these allegations.

Update: 10 Feb at 0140 GMT
I have created a thread where I will address questions from the community. This is so my responses do not become lost among the community replies. The thread will be locked so further answers will not be difficult to find.

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Originally by: 18 Rabbit

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The one certainty here is that 90% of the people threatening to quit won't actually do so, and that's especially true for those with multiple accounts.

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Originally by: John Tasker

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Edited by: John Tasker on 11/02/2007 02:10:49

Originally by: 18 Rabbit

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The one certainty here is that 90% of the people threatening to quit won't actually do so, and that's especially true for those with multiple accounts.

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have 4 accounts
1 char sold
industrail alt; will be sold when done contract work (end of subscription 11 april)
freighter/carrier/dread alt; prolly be sold aswell (end subscription 11 april)
kerushi i`ll keep, active or not, well see, training freighter so i don`t need the alt

from 4 to maybe even 1 and i`m not alone on this
if i stay it will be on gtc with isk so no $$$ from my wallet

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Originally by: VENOM2k99

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Now it's clear for all of us that BOB took avantage, for many of us, they dominate because of that.

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Originally by: Dagrin RDM

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Originally by: Azerrad InExile

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Since kieron is back answering questions:

Why weren't the T2 BPOs in question removed from the game when they were discovered??

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I really liked Kieron's answer to this question....
....oh wait....nvm

Why hasn't this been answered yet?

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Originally by: Seroquel

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it takes a while to get use to the people in eve. they are a little too... friendly. sorta like the texas chainsaw massacre country folk friendly.

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Originally by: 18 Rabbit

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The one certainty here is that 90% of the people threatening to quit won't actually do so, and that's especially true for those with multiple accounts.

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Originally by: Viki Girl

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That Sabre BPO have to be the rarest and most unique BPO in game... oh come one, you seriously think that BOB only was able to kick every single aliances ass ad win all turnament because there were a Dev in one of it's corps ? Yeh right... sure..

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Originally by: Viki Girl

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Originally by: VENOM2k99

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Now it's clear for all of us that BOB took avantage, for many of us, they dominate because of that.

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That Sabre BPO have to be the rarest and most unique BPO in game... oh come one, you seriously think that BOB only was able to kick every single aliances ass ad win all turnament because there were a Dev in one of it's corps ? Yeh right... sure..

I tell you a secret.. there were devis in ASCN as well.. tare are devs in goons and red, and even in LV... because as the devs said, they love this game and they play this game...

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Originally by: farsycal

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Originally by: VENOM2k99

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We all know that someone in BOB was involve, don't BS us.
T20 should take his balls in his hand, and tell who was involve in BOB.

CCP should kick this guy out who risk the job of their co-workers and the GAME. Many have cancelled their accounts and it will continue until CCP punish BOB.

Now it's clear for all of us that BOB took avantage, for many of us, they dominate because of that.

I hope they get their ass kicked in the war.

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You got owned I take it? How exactly does owning a few more bpo equate to them raping your sorry ass?

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Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus

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Originally by: Galea Wildfang

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You spineless alt can just stop here. People state their feelings, concerns and believes in this thread, most of them once, a few of them a little more often. And whatever you say (if anything at all) will not change that. So STFU. Too bad this thread is not located in the sell forum, else you'd receive a warning for each bump after the first (per day that is).

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So I guess I'm not entitled to state my own opinions if they disagree with yours? So whos the one wanting to restrict discussion and silence anyone who disagrees with them? I like this 'debate'.. Its really been an enlightening read so far on the lengths some people will go.. And I'm directing that comment at all sides not just the ones who think CCP and BoB are in bed toghether and haxoring thier way to glory..

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Originally by: spurious signal

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Originally by: Tarkan Kador

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Originally by: Mollyanna

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FWIW, I'm a nobody, a rookie, and i'm already gone, for reasons have nothing to do with this..
(And all remaining assets will go towards financing the well deserved thrashing of BoD, now..)
But a parting shot is more than deserved.

Why does this surprise anyone ?

This company was created by folk who were basically UO griefers, continues to support the whole play-dirty-to-win methodology, up to and including pretty severe metagaming by large alliances, where apparently most of the devs are - most of the new content in fact revolves around that world.

And this kind of thing wasn't going to happen, and often ?
Get real.

While termination in t20's case is certainly more than justified, I think we should deliver unto him a worse punishment.

Break him to nooblet and make him start over... and WATCH him to make sure he doesn't cheat.

Because a Dev really needs to have the experiences of...

Having your cans endlessly flipped and being unable to do anything about it.

Being repeatedly suicide ganked for fun in highsec.

Being repeatedly wardecced for kicks by folks looking for easy kills.

Suffering the low profit margins and utter defenselessness of the Miner/Industrial careers at the low end of the SP food chain.

Being unable to make any profit whatsoever on transshipping trade goods.

Spending days on end trying to find somewhere, anywhere that isn't gatecamped to cross low-sec or enter 0.0, complete with repeated instapoddings while lagged from the jump.

Being laughed off by every corporation able to survive a wardec for not having years worth of SP.

Grinding for ages with an agent only to lose it in an eyeblink due to mission griefing.

Being wardecced back into the NPC corp and left to only your own resources and abilities in order to advance.

And then having to listen to the folks who wardecced you there screaming to have missions and NPC corps nerfed to cripple you even worse, or force you into their guns in "safe" highsec.

And absolutely, most especially, let him get a full hefty bite of the crap sandwich and uphill slope this game feeds to new players, especially non-pirates - and then a cold hard look at those mighty alliances lording it over him when he has zero chance of ever competing with, or even joining them.

And then let him reflect on how much of that is his own fault.

A better punishment you could not ask for, and who knows, the Devs might even see how broken their game is when you are NOT in a massive 0.0 alliance blobfest.

-Molly

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/bow.

Take a good look at that post, Hellmar, and you'll begin to realize how little your development staff truly shares our "frustrations, joys, successes and failures."

Do you all even know the EVE you are developing anymore?

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My god, QFT.

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Originally by: Dust Angel

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Maya, you are a tool.

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Originally by: Redwolf

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and now this post/thread has mysteriously vanished from the eve-o forums.

*tinfoil*

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Originally by: farsycal

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Originally by: VENOM2k99

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We all know that someone in BOB was involve, don't BS us.
T20 should take his balls in his hand, and tell who was involve in BOB.

CCP should kick this guy out who risk the job of their co-workers and the GAME. Many have cancelled their accounts and it will continue until CCP punish BOB.

Now it's clear for all of us that BOB took avantage, for many of us, they dominate because of that.

I hope they get their ass kicked in the war.

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You got owned I take it? How exactly does owning a few more bpo equate to them raping your sorry ass?

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Originally by: Dollar49er

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Tell em what u think -- i want you to == ya or nay let em have it.

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Originally by: Stoli Vodka

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Edited by: Stoli Vodka on 11/02/2007 00:44:05
If I provide a BoD kill that uses the following:

* Flameburst Precision Light Missile
* Phalanx Rage Rocket
* Havoc Fury Heavy Missile
* Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile
* Spike L
* Sabre

can I petition my losses? And if not is there any action I can take?

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