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Onereeh Viziam	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:05:00 - [61] excellent map, keep it updated
Onereeh Viziam	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:05:00 - [62] excellent map, keep it updated
Paladin Vent Aeria Gloris Inc United Legion	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:12:00 - [63] Originally by: Farnett I know that it would be significantly harder to do, but it'd be more applicable to the reality of eve if you could have the influence spread by jumps. For example have outposts extend influence over 5 jumps, and pos over 1 jump. I think it would more aptly represent the distribution of power, and help prevent smaller alliances from being blobed out by the larger ones. You are reading my mind. In fact, this feature is alredy present on this map. Outposts distribute influence over 2 jumps, and POS - over 1 jump. After each jump the value of distributed influence is multiplied by 0.3. So outposts make 500% in thir system, 150% in 1 jump and 45% in 2 jumps. POS - 100%, 30% and 0% accordingly.
Lisolet Sea of Corruption The Kano Organisation	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:12:00 - [64] Edited by: Lisolet on 04/03/2007 21:15:35 Best map yet in my opinion. As all the maps before it, it could use some touch ups but this is fantastic. If you want to remain impartial as possible and still mark warzones you could pull "ships destroyed in the past 24 hours" data and just mark large losses of ships? Make the border lines slightly less bright. And I think the map would take on a more tactical feel if you made the stations "claim" less space so what you do see it more localized and less "blob of color." I am sure you've tried both but I am still curious. You're off to a great start.
Paladin Vent Aeria Gloris Inc United Legion	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:12:00 - [65] Originally by: Farnett I know that it would be significantly harder to do, but it'd be more applicable to the reality of eve if you could have the influence spread by jumps. For example have outposts extend influence over 5 jumps, and pos over 1 jump. I think it would more aptly represent the distribution of power, and help prevent smaller alliances from being blobed out by the larger ones. You are reading my mind. In fact, this feature is alredy present on this map. Outposts distribute influence over 2 jumps, and POS - over 1 jump. After each jump the value of distributed influence is multiplied by 0.3. So outposts make 500% in thir system, 150% in 1 jump and 45% in 2 jumps. POS - 100%, 30% and 0% accordingly.
Lisolet Sea of Corruption The Kano Organisation	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:12:00 - [66] Edited by: Lisolet on 04/03/2007 21:15:35 Best map yet in my opinion. As all the maps before it, it could use some touch ups but this is fantastic. If you want to remain impartial as possible and still mark warzones you could pull "ships destroyed in the past 24 hours" data and just mark large losses of ships? Make the border lines slightly less bright. And I think the map would take on a more tactical feel if you made the stations "claim" less space so what you do see it more localized and less "blob of color." I am sure you've tried both but I am still curious. You're off to a great start.
Electric Cucumber Amarr Beagle Corp	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:17:00 - [67] very nice
Electric Cucumber Amarr Beagle Corp	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:17:00 - [68] very nice
Anaximander Monk Mandala Group	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:29:00 - [69] Best map yet. I don't mind the look at all. I was thinking of ideas for an automated map myself, I think its the best way.
Anaximander Monk Mandala Group	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:29:00 - [70] Best map yet. I don't mind the look at all. I was thinking of ideas for an automated map myself, I think its the best way.
Third Down Hard Rock Cafe	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:57:00 - [71] Edited by: Third Down on 04/03/2007 22:00:48 This map gives me a stiffy. Now I want it in real-time, pannable 3D (with time slider) :D
killerco Gallente Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.03.04 22:03:00 - [72] great job OP keep it up Don't be a great man just be a man
Quivox Alkar ORUS Corporate United Corporations of Eve	Posted - 2007.03.04 22:06:00 - [73] Edited by: Quivox Alkar on 04/03/2007 22:02:40 Congrats, excellent work! An automatically generated map is ingenious!
Raste Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.04 22:06:00 - [74] I really, really like this map.
Copine Callmeknau The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.04 22:33:00 - [75] Very nice map, however there are some adjustments yuo need to make. 1) Eliminate leakage into empire. 2) Make sure your Gradient thingy only applies accross constalletaions/systems, and not open space. The way it is 2 systems that are a dozen+ jumps from each other, but located close to one another physically are marked as the same alliance. Prime example is SMASH alliance, there is the 3 systems TDE, UER and UG, with outpost, POS and POS respectively. But becaue of the outpost the gradient and our 'territory' extends all the way to the left, and encompasses 4 or 5 systems many jumps away that I've never even heard of. Also, perhaps make it not quite as defined when an outpost is on the very edge of an alliances territory. Again I'm looking at SMASH cause I know the area best, but our space cuts off so harshly. I assume this is because of a cluster of RK POS around K25. Perhaps have an outpost give 2 jumps of space regardless of another alliances 'claimed space' ----- Originally by: wrong on so many levels you couldn't be more wrong if you were tuxford
Trytonx The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.03.04 22:34:00 - [76] I like the style of this one. You artists never cease to amaze me Originally by: Danari My mining group can still suck the chrome off a Nyx.
Extreme Eye of God X-PACT	Posted - 2007.03.04 22:35:00 - [77] X-Pact is not on the map. We claim the WXB-RY constellation . .
Roller Syn-Packet Security	Posted - 2007.03.04 22:46:00 - [78] Edited by: Roller on 04/03/2007 22:43:22 Originally by: Extreme X-Pact is not on the map. We claim the WXB-RY constellation You really need to read the OP. The beauty of this map is that it displays in game facts .. not political contrivances. This probably wouldn't be easy to do .. but if you could give your map a little memory .. as in graphicall represent the changes in influence from the previous map.
Jiin Kemono. Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.04 22:48:00 - [79] Edited by: Jiin on 04/03/2007 22:44:32 My only problem with this map is the horrible, horrible font. It would look a lot better with a fatter font. Disregarding that triviality, I love it. edit: comedy "we claim empire put us on the map" reply
probablecause Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.04 23:01:00 - [80] I just read through the source and scanned the database. I'd know that data was available but never looked at it. Gives some nice insight. I haven't done any Java since college so I only have a rough idea of what's going on, but I like the math. Try making a quick run with the sovereignty added to the image before the map. This will leave the smaller detail items on top of the larger color patches. Also, perhaps adjust the nextColor function so that it runs from 256 to 64 or 128, instead of 256 to 0. This should push the colors for each alliance out farther towards their borders, unless I'm wrong about the code. ;P Again, nice job, great concept and execution. CCP should make a web based version of this that queries the live database every hour, and caches the output to their webserver. __________________ "Buttons are not toys"
Gutsani The Scope	Posted - 2007.03.04 23:10:00 - [81] Originally by: Paladin Vent Originally by: Valeo Galaem I'm curious how you are able to get the sovereignty data out of the game. Do you do it manually Yeah, I'm entering manually the status of the 800+ sovereign systems. Joke. Of cource it is some kind automated. Manually I have to point the script to where it should gather data. Procedure is very clean and there is no EULA conflict. It would be awesome if you could make that available to the EVE public also. Also you need to release your source code with a license (BSD license ftw ) or at least some "bull**" that says what we can and cant do with it, else we are violating the law Really, awesome job on this one! I had a quick look at your database (sql file) and its verry clean, and contains alot of usefull information even for stuff totally unrelated to this. I'm gonna take a closer look at your java in the next few days, will let you know what i find/improve. ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy!**
ishkabibble Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.04 23:11:00 - [82] genius concept, well done like anything its a work in progress, minor details need attention like boarder lines and fonts, but overall best map and most objective i have seen great job and keep the good stuff coming "I have no clue what weapons we will fight the third world war with, but the fourth world war will be fought with sticks and rocks" - Albert Einstein [url="http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingame
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.04 23:15:00 - [83] This deserves a sticky
Blind Watchmaker Vanguard Frontiers Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.03.04 23:20:00 - [84] Fantastic map, nice job ---------------------------------------
Zae'dra Xanthe Fist of the Goat	Posted - 2007.03.04 23:21:00 - [85] Originally by: Graalum This deserves a sticky Even better, it deserves a it's own page here on Eve-O. This is a completely objective map and truely shows where sovernty is claimed. Awesome work! It most certainly should be added to the list of maps. How often do you think it will update/be updated?
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.04 23:24:00 - [86] I love it. Needs some design work, but the concept is by its definition flawless EVE-Trance Radio--The EVE Textboard
Thoric Frosthammer The Syndicate Inc INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.04 23:45:00 - [87] Edited by: Thoric Frosthammer on 04/03/2007 23:45:02 Originally by: Roller Edited by: Roller on 04/03/2007 22:43:22 Originally by: Extreme X-Pact is not on the map. We claim the WXB-RY constellation You really need to read the OP. The beauty of this map is that it displays in game facts .. not political contrivances. This probably wouldn't be easy to do .. but if you could give your map a little memory .. as in graphicall represent the changes in influence from the previous map. It's not a political contrivance, they have a station and pos's there. I lived in B-7 with them before invictus took over YM. I think he just missed the outpost. It is a very interesting concept for a map though. I think it may be overweighting pos's though. One system with an outpost can easily control a couple neighboring constellations depending on the region's layout, while a pos may be just for moon mining and not reflect any real concentration of people in the area at all. As a result, the practical result may be different from the mathematically weighted result. For example, I think you may find, particularly in the new regions, that the "influence" of some of the entities you have there is considerably less than portrayed. I'd honestly stick to outpost systems in calculating this, with some very small % tossed in for pos's. You'd probably find that resulting in a more accurate map.
James Duar Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.03.04 23:45:00 - [88] I'm loving this for the fact that it's apparently generated completely procedurally. That's just awesome.
DeadDuck Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.04 23:48:00 - [89] Well it's the most accurate that you can have. A bit more work to sharp some visual aspects and it's ready to be stickyed
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.04 23:52:00 - [90] Originally by: Thoric Frosthammer Edited by: Thoric Frosthammer on 04/03/2007 23:45:02 Originally by: Roller Edited by: Roller on 04/03/2007 22:43:22 Originally by: Extreme X-Pact is not on the map. We claim the WXB-RY constellation You really need to read the OP. The beauty of this map is that it displays in game facts .. not political contrivances. This probably wouldn't be easy to do .. but if you could give your map a little memory .. as in graphicall represent the changes in influence from the previous map. It's not a political contrivance, they have a station and pos's there. I lived in B-7 with them before invictus took over YM. I think he just missed the outpost. It is a very interesting concept for a map though. I think it may be overweighting pos's though. One system with an outpost can easily control a couple neighboring constellations depending on the region's layout, while a pos may be just for moon mining and not reflect any real concentration of people in the area at all. As a result, the practical result may be different from the mathematically weighted result. For example, I think you may find, particularly in the new regions, that the "influence" of some of the entities you have there is considerably less than portrayed. I'd honestly stick to outpost systems in calculating this, with some very small % tossed in for pos's. You'd probably find that resulting in a more accurate map. He didn't miss anything, he just fed in the game data. The reason they're not showing up is because they're being swamped by overwhelming "influence" of their neighbors, which is the map working as it should (if they don't have very many POS / Outpost compared to their neighbours, then its nice to see they're not a major power).If they really want to get on the map, they needc to bung down a few more POSs and outposts --------

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