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yogizh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:30:45 -
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If there were Goons complaining over here, ok, whatever. You have the whole damned Eve except highsec telling you this is bad. Lookup how governments fight currency inflation, I am pretty certain it is not cutting sallaries. |
Random Lurker
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:31:32 -
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Great changes! Carrier Ratting was a pita...
CCP Larrikin wrote:[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/newssystem/media/71813/1/GermanFlag33.png[/img] -á [img]http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/devblog/FLAG_-_RUSSIAN-33.png[/img]Hi Space Friends, Coming with our release on Tuesday, weGÇÖre significantly reducing the damage output of Fighters. Why:We are making this change because Carriers & Supercarriers are too strong in PvE, specifically anomaly ratting in Nullsec. As you may have seen in the May Monthly Economy Report, there is a significant upward trend in the Money Supply. This is primarily due to NPC Bounties. This trend is unsustainable. Having such a large ISK faucet is bad for the economy, and this ISK faucet is concentrated to a relatively small number of players. We also think that Carriers and Supercarriers are a bit too effective in PvP now. This change will significantly change the PvP balance, but weGÇÖre confident that Carriers and Supercarriers will remain powerful options for PvP. What:- Light Fighters (Space Superiority): No Change
- Light Fighters (Attack): 20% reduction to Basic Attack and Heavy Rocket Salvo damage.
- Support Fighters: No Change
- Heavy Fighters (Heavy Attack): 10% reduction to Basic Attack and Torpedo Salvo damage.
- Heavy Fighters (Long Range Attack): 30% reduction to Basic Attack damage.
- Heavy Fighters (Shadow): No Change
- NPCs are 15% more likely to shoot at fighters than they are currently.
We will continue to observe the economy after these changes and will make adjustments as necessary to keep it healthy for all our players.
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evan mclean
Power Shift
9
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:31:32 -
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maybe they just want the game to end |
Ezio Sotken
nul-li-fy Circle-Of-Two
14
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:32:55 -
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So, with all the TQ instability today plus this nerf announcement, one has to wonder.
Also the fact this nerf was posted today, just four days(?) before the change is supposed to happen, not cool. At least rorq guys got some time to digest their nerf and such, carrier and super pilots, which is way more than rorq pilots, got the short stick. |
Neva Second
Extreme Agony Fidelas Constans
13
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:33:01 -
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Crazy idea CCP, bear with me cause your accountants will love it.
1) Don't allow players the ability to pay for subs with PLEX! That way you transform into a cash only system and in game pvp/pve content won't matter anymore, presto digito....no more tears when you make a change get it? Cause it won't matter, cause all the poor people will stop playing.
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2) Make the use of Plex for game time SP based; Got less than 25m SP? Your 30 days of game time is "X", over 25m but under 50m? "XX", over 50m but under 100m? "XXX", over 100m? "XXXX"!
Holy fu*k, I should get a cut of every devs year end bonus cause this sh!t is solid gold!!! |
Ebony Texas
The Alabaster Albatross Sev3rance
27
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:34:37 -
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KICK THE GOD DARN CSM OUT OF THEIR SEATS.
THEY DO NOT STAND UP FOR THE COMMUNITY WHAT SO EVER!>..
they hell they go up there to visit ccp for??
NERF THE CSM!
I CALL FOR RECALL
I SUBMIT MY NO-CONFIDENCE VOTE!
ABOLISH THE CSM
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Ezio Sotken
nul-li-fy Circle-Of-Two
14
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:35:19 -
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blackmamba230 Pappotte wrote:
Hope u got a dread, fax or titan, because thats the only thing that will be used in cap pvp now. Not even supers will still be widely used I would think. |
Random Lurker
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:36:53 -
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Pimpel Betrak wrote: And ...get a grade one crotch punch from ccp for having the audacity of using them to try to get some isk back.
so....lets not tackle the issue of afk ratting in ishtars and VNI, noooooo cos the thousands doing that are totally not the issue... lets crotch punch the big guys...again..
VNIs and Ishtars dont make near anywhere the amount an afk carrier does, I am talking 500m ticks..thats just not intended gameplay... sorry nullbears. There is nothing wrong with CCP trying to make changes because noone is perfect. Carriers were not intended to be used this way and they were a pain to compete against in a non capital ship class vessel. Not sure if reducing fighter damage overall was needed. Could have reduced the damage vs NPC targets only.
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yogizh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
53
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:39:20 -
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Random Lurker wrote:Pimpel Betrak wrote: And ...get a grade one crotch punch from ccp for having the audacity of using them to try to get some isk back.
so....lets not tackle the issue of afk ratting in ishtars and VNI, noooooo cos the thousands doing that are totally not the issue... lets crotch punch the big guys...again..
VNIs and Ishtars dont make near anywhere the amount an afk carrier does, I am talking 500m ticks..thats just not intended gameplay... sorry nullbears. There is nothing wrong with CCP trying to make changes because noone is perfect. Carriers were not intended to be used this way and they were a pain to compete against in a non capital ship class vessel. Not sure if reducing fighter damage overall was needed. Could have reduced the damage vs NPC targets only.
AKF carriers ? There is no such thing for quite a long time now chief. |
Shogun A
Air The Initiative.
4
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:40:45 -
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Random Lurker wrote:Pimpel Betrak wrote: And ...get a grade one crotch punch from ccp for having the audacity of using them to try to get some isk back.
so....lets not tackle the issue of afk ratting in ishtars and VNI, noooooo cos the thousands doing that are totally not the issue... lets crotch punch the big guys...again..
VNIs and Ishtars dont make near anywhere the amount an afk carrier does, I am talking 500m ticks..thats just not intended gameplay... sorry nullbears. There is nothing wrong with CCP trying to make changes because noone is perfect. Carriers were not intended to be used this way and they were a pain to compete against in a non capital ship class vessel. Not sure if reducing fighter damage overall was needed. Could have reduced the damage vs NPC targets only.
500mill ticks - someone is cluless - Supercarriers can get 150 at best - check your facts before posting in a discussion
and Supercarrier ratting is very intensive - the clicking is endless |
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Kaze Mester
Ascendance Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:41:04 -
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Got into rorquals, got nerfed...than fast extract-inject-isk to super...got nerfed. I think this is all because of me...so i have to make these changes stop.
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8RU74L
Invictus Origin Brothers in Arms Alliance
2
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:41:10 -
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Afk carriers???How long have you been offline? |
Rounon Dax
Terra Nanotech Yulai Federation
25
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:41:42 -
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Make NPC's shoot fighters all the time once they are out, carrier ratting issue solved :-P
But honestly, this change is pretty bad. I mean, in a PvP situation a single Griffin can pretty effective render a Carrier useless at the moment. Lowering the damage output from fighters doesn't really help to keep pilots interested in having Carrier and Supers in a PvP situation.
Dear CCP, don't change stuff that is not broken. |
Kaze Mester
Ascendance Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:41:51 -
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Kaze Mester wrote:Got into rorquals, got nerfed...than fast extract-inject-isk to super...got nerfed. I think this is all because of me...so i have to make these changes stop.
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Serininty
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:41:54 -
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It seems such an incompetent way to run a game. Make shiny toys, then take them away. Make more shiny toys, take them away. Then ignore the customers.
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szeredaiakos Terona
DNS Requiem Cohortes Triarii
0
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:42:19 -
[856] - Quote
i guess i just stick with my ~1.5billion worth 2000 DPS battleship. no more need to SPEND THE DAMN ISK to upgrade and potentially lose a 4.5b fat ass droneboat. |
Servo Libertas
Military Gamers Tactical Narcotics Team
14
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:43:32 -
[857] - Quote
Random Lurker wrote:Pimpel Betrak wrote: And ...get a grade one crotch punch from ccp for having the audacity of using them to try to get some isk back.
so....lets not tackle the issue of afk ratting in ishtars and VNI, noooooo cos the thousands doing that are totally not the issue... lets crotch punch the big guys...again..
VNIs and Ishtars dont make near anywhere the amount an afk carrier does, I am talking 500m ticks..thats just not intended gameplay... sorry nullbears. There is nothing wrong with CCP trying to make changes because noone is perfect. Carriers were not intended to be used this way and they were a pain to compete against in a non capital ship class vessel. Not sure if reducing fighter damage overall was needed. Could have reduced the damage vs NPC targets only.
"AFK" carriers making 500mil ticks, would love to see that in action. |
ISD Chanisa Nemes
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
132
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:45:15 -
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Removed some more offensive and off-topic posts. Please continue to be constructive, guys!
And you don't get a cute gif this time since someone threatened to kill my puppies from the last one.
ISD Chanisa Nemes
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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BaruCK
Falcoes Peregrinos Pandemic Horde
1
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:46:18 -
[859] - Quote
CCP needs real money and they will nerf carriers with joy. |
Fl4chz4ng3
Lost in shadow Brothers of Tangra
25
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:48:06 -
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lilol' me wrote:sorry so a 25bill ship making 150m hr is bad? **** i would expect more isk tbh.
You are doing it wrong dude I'm (was) doing 160m per tick with a perfect nyx (25b ship) and full attention of course
Looks like time investment and learning how to play this game means nothing today... |
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Dan Sever
XAOS RELOADED Legion of xXDEATHXx
0
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:49:06 -
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Do whatever you want, just don't touch afk ratting ships like gila, vni and ishtar. Although its sad that you're nerfing one of my potential future in-game goals. |
Laetitia Nzero
Southern Cross Incorporated Shadow Cartel
307
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:49:18 -
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:-( That is all. |
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker
1513
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:50:35 -
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Ebony Texas wrote:KICK THE GOD DARN CSM OUT OF THEIR SEATS.
THEY DO NOT STAND UP FOR THE COMMUNITY WHAT SO EVER!>..
they hell they go up there to visit ccp for??
NERF THE CSM!
I CALL FOR RECALL
I SUBMIT MY NO-CONFIDENCE VOTE!
ABOLISH THE CSM
At best the CSM are player advisers. They can tell the devs all day long what they think is best, end of the day the devs can still do whatever they want. It's also questionable whether the CSM was informed about this in the first place.
But you're right. The CSM doesn't give a **** about the playerbase. Steve Ronuken being an exception, most of them are just there to gain access to NDA information to game the system with and lobby for their particular nullsec blob group.
When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
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C0ATL
Renegade Stars The Volition Cult
35
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:50:47 -
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Random Lurker wrote:Pimpel Betrak wrote: And ...get a grade one crotch punch from ccp for having the audacity of using them to try to get some isk back.
so....lets not tackle the issue of afk ratting in ishtars and VNI, noooooo cos the thousands doing that are totally not the issue... lets crotch punch the big guys...again..
VNIs and Ishtars dont make near anywhere the amount an afk carrier does, I am talking 500m ticks..thats just not intended gameplay... sorry nullbears. There is nothing wrong with CCP trying to make changes because noone is perfect. Carriers were not intended to be used this way and they were a pain to compete against in a non capital ship class vessel. Not sure if reducing fighter damage overall was needed. Could have reduced the damage vs NPC targets only.
I dont know what you smoked today to come over with those "500mil /tick" numbers, buddy. A Nidhoggur with max skills and green fit will make 60 mil ticks... IF he stays off chat and just focuses completely on ratting. Most carrier ratters i've met cant get above 55 mil ticks. If you dont constantly control your fighters carefuly for even 20 seconds, you lose one, which is 11-15 mil isk...~50% of a Haven's value.
I dont know if you are a troll or accidentally used an extra 0 on that figure, but if neither..then check your facts before you talk about smth you clearly have no experience with. |
Kaze Mester
Ascendance Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:51:14 -
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Fl4chz4ng3 wrote:lilol' me wrote:sorry so a 25bill ship making 150m hr is bad? **** i would expect more isk tbh. You are doing it wrong dude I'm (was) doing 160m per tick with a perfect nyx (25b ship) and full attention of course Looks like time investment and learning how to play this game means nothing today...
Or they just want to kill their game, make as much money as they can as fast as possible and say goodbye. They will close soon anyway with this mentality. |
Wolfstorm
STK Scientific The Initiative.
34
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:53:14 -
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ISD Chanisa Nemes wrote:Removed some more offensive and off-topic posts. Please continue to be constructive, guys!
And you don't get a cute gif this time since someone threatened to kill my puppies from the last one.
LoL suggesting y'all get mailed bags of animal crap from the internet for your malfeasance isn't off topic or offensive (at least any more so than the proposed changes) - it's direct protest. Also it's too late - it's being eaten up everywhere else. =) |
8RU74L
Invictus Origin Brothers in Arms Alliance
3
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:53:37 -
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" As you may have seen in the May Monthly Economy Report, there is a significant upward trend in the Money Supply. This is primarily due to NPC Bounties."
Player driven economy doesnt need "outside" intervention,let us deal with this so called "problem" Norway has a problem with too much money,go nerf them instead!
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Fl4chz4ng3
Lost in shadow Brothers of Tangra
25
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:55:10 -
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Kaze Mester wrote:Fl4chz4ng3 wrote:lilol' me wrote:sorry so a 25bill ship making 150m hr is bad? **** i would expect more isk tbh. You are doing it wrong dude I'm (was) doing 160m per tick with a perfect nyx (25b ship) and full attention of course Looks like time investment and learning how to play this game means nothing today... Or they just want to kill their game, make as much money as they can as fast as possible and say goodbye. They will close soon anyway with this mentality.
True but i will not play anymore till tuesday and if these changes are going live i ll unsub my 9 accounts (no threats here, it's reality)
What a waste, you had such a beautiful game... |
Cordylus1029
Team Pizza Good at this Game
1
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:55:59 -
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Nex Gaius wrote:Yet another quality game change. Lets nerf all the high time / isk investment options. But not the ez ones like Wormholes or Incursions.
Uh...you do realize WH's lost capital escalations? It's completely useless to do them now, we just don't ***** and moan so you probably forgot but it's k. WH's are easier than sitting in null with local and running every time a neut comes in, just commanding fighters around. Yep.
Seriously, you ratting carriers can all rot. There's literally no risk to you in nullsec, if you get caught and die it's 110% your fault. |
U- Hauler
The Honeycomb Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2017.06.09 20:57:51 -
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This is possibly the worst week that the game has ever had since I started playing. |
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