No I don't think we have. But, then again, is anybody really surprised by CCP silence?

It's a panic nerf brought on by poor foresight and not consulting the players and working closely with them at large. Any decent designer should have foreseen this issue with skill injects, and we as a player base (and CCP) have known about the lack of isk sinks since we actually had a real economist working with us (I miss his posts too). We have literally had YEARS to deal with the fact empires pay bounties out of thin air and we've never had close to a balanced amount of isk sinks to destroy that isk generated. It has always been a problem, it's just gone from a steady inflation to a rapid inflation with the ability to instantly train into whatever faucet you want to tap if you can get the resources ($$$). This means it's no longer a multi-month process for an elite to switch gears and tap a faucet or expand a faucet tap. The changes proposed in patch aren't going to fix that - just buy a little time at the expense of every player.

We need real solutions. Many have been proposed some of the best include closing the isk cycle so that bounties come from taxes - and then IF isk starts running low more can be secretly added to the pool behind the curtains.

I agree that it is a panic nerf but perhaps the end game means are too easy to handle? Just how much skill (not skills) is required from a pilot to operate these end game means. Never been interested in caps but I can imagine anyone can pilot those, given the trained skills and isk to sit in them, otherwise there wouldn't be such a sudden isk inflation.

Your final line was describing yourself? There have been many other suggestions for how to fix it that don't involve destroying Carriers for both PVP and PVE.

Two excellent ones are capping tick sizes and diminishing returns on bounty payouts. The latter has the benefit of removing the problem of afk-droneboaters from the ISK stream. The problem isn't the concept that the money stream needs to go (Though the actual net money going into the system is +15T ISK, not 60, but by all means continue to spout the histrionics you were so adamantly against earlier), the problem is the method and demographic targeted. Why don't you try not being a monumental tool and be constructive, rather than just insult people who are justifiably angry by a MASSIVE nerf for which they aren't even necessarily the problem.

This PR blunder has probably cost CCP more in lost subscribers than the supposed supercarrier ratting RMTers. My subscription will not continue much longer if CCP continues to mistake ignoring players for knowing better.

Seriously, what other company would alienate their highest paying and most invested players? Much less reply to a paying customer's inquiries by calling them an "edgelord" and posting cat pictures.

So ccp is crying about iskies...

- where is most ratting?
- who is using most ratting carriers and supers?
- where is most mining?
-where is most production?
- oh where spawned the new titan thinngy (aka pirate faction Titan)?.,...


is it all in goon space?

Why not just nerf goons?

Why doesn't the rest of Eve nerf goons? No better reason for conflict than goons destroying the economy?

(because carrier ratting isn't afk in case some of you at ccp don't know)