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Kusha'an Gallente Equinox Industrial Co.	Posted - 2008.05.02 01:44:00 - [601] Originally by: Grarr Dexx I pay to have fun and play with friends. Figures. Pretty sad that the only way you have friends is to pay for them to play with you.
Grarr Dexx Amarr Naval Protection Corp Carpe Universitas	Posted - 2008.05.02 02:46:00 - [602] Originally by: Kusha'an Originally by: Grarr Dexx I pay to have fun and play with friends. Figures. Pretty sad that the only way you have friends is to pay for them to play with you. Yeah, even worse argument. Back to bed, troll.
Veryez	Posted - 2008.05.02 12:39:00 - [603] Originally by: Grarr Dexx Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. I pay to have fun and play with friends. Nice one, though. Your attempt at humor failed, by value I mean monetary value, I don't place monetary value on friends. And you are the one derailing this topic. You expressed your opinion and I have refuted it. That you chose not to listen to counter arguements is your problem. Since you've added nothing in the last 3 pages, I suggest you move along.
Grarr Dexx Amarr Naval Protection Corp Carpe Universitas	Posted - 2008.05.02 13:10:00 - [604] I can play free mmo's with my friends too, or RTS's that I pirated. I'm not saying that I need to PAY TO PLAY WITH FRIENDS, just pay to play THIS VERY GAME with friends. I don't pay because of some silly online skill points, spaceshipz are not srz bznss to me.
Maxwell Murders	Posted - 2008.05.04 11:16:00 - [605] lol because i work 10hrs per day... iv been play for not even 30 days. And lost i would say... going close to 30 to 40 hrs the system sucks. The longer it takes to train skills the more real money they earn i guess . i have limited time to play games i am flat out most of the time i see the game as a time expensive some thing i am not rich with is time.i feel with low poor skills i can not have fun i use the game to destress. i do not want to have any down time getting the skills to enjoy it. PLS SKILL QUE
Grarr Dexx Amarr Naval Protection Corp Carpe Universitas	Posted - 2008.05.04 11:39:00 - [606] Train OTHER skills so you don't lose skill time, jesus christ.
Elrich Zann Minmatar Hidden Agenda	Posted - 2008.05.04 12:53:00 - [607] Originally by: Grarr Dexx Train OTHER skills so you don't lose skill time, jesus christ. Ah thank you for your brilliant observations. Obviously none of us could have figured this out without your erudite help. Truthfully, I donÆt lose sleep over losing a few hours of training here or there. I try not to, but stuff happens. However I empathize with players who have to train the 6 to 12 hour skills, that arenÆt too common for me anymore. I suggest the following û a 12 hour skill queue. How this would work, if you are within 12 hours of finishing a skill, you may queue up a second skill (but only a second skill, no more). Period, done. YouÆll still have to log in just as often, but this means you donÆt have to be online at exactly the time a skill finishes. LetÆs face it, we all log into eve and play when it is convenient to us, not when a skill is set to finish. IÆve been playing quite a while, and everyday, at all hours of the day, I see people log in and log out after a few minutes/seconds, with the comment æskill changeÆ. This is not enjoyable, nor is it interacting/playing with other players, or even playing the game for that matter. ItÆs a stupid, menial chore we all endure, not because we like it, but because we like the other parts of this game so much. This task (changing skills) does nothing to enhance the game for its players, and is especially hard on newer players who have many short skills to train. Since it would benefit newer players (enhance the new player experience in the words of CCP), I am in favor of a limited 12 hour skill queue.
Exie	Posted - 2008.05.04 15:41:00 - [608] A short queue is a great idea... we just need to also llok at things from CCP's point of view... there is no gain for the game to create a way to easily "farm" toons to sell for billions of ISK. I for one though would love to have a 12 hour queue that I could fill up, make training all these lvl1 and lvl2 skills a lot easier...
Grarr Dexx Amarr Naval Protection Corp Carpe Universitas	Posted - 2008.05.04 16:15:00 - [609] Eve's not supposed to be easy, now is it?
Elrich Zann Minmatar Hidden Agenda	Posted - 2008.05.04 17:20:00 - [610] Originally by: Exie A short queue is a great idea... we just need to also llok at things from CCP's point of view... there is no gain for the game to create a way to easily "farm" toons to sell for billions of ISK. I for one though would love to have a 12 hour queue that I could fill up, make training all these lvl1 and lvl2 skills a lot easier... Fill up???? Originally by: Elrich Zann if you are within 12 hours of finishing a skill, you may queue up a second skill (but only a second skill, no more) No, I am not in favor of a 12 hour queue you could fill up, in fact I think that would be a bad idea.
Liu	Posted - 2008.05.05 06:50:00 - [611] Originally by: Grarr Dexx Eve's not supposed to be easy, now is it? yeah, CCP should get rid of: 1. insurance 2. map 3. modules autorepeat 4. overview 5. keyboard shortcuts 6. autopilot 7. high security 8. right click navigation then EVE would be really challenging. these devs are too carebears Originally by: Apertotes tbh, boot.ini was overpowered and needed a nerf
Kusha'an Gallente Equinox Industrial Co.	Posted - 2008.05.05 14:19:00 - [612] Originally by: Grarr Dexx Eve's not supposed to be easy, now is it? Either offer a solution to this obvious problem or shut up. You've already made your point - i.e. "U alz suxor Eve duznt needz skill q lolz buncha f-in nubz roflmao I iz ubermmorpg plyrz" - so anything you say now is nothing but trolling. ---- What part of "shorn't" do you not understand?
Liu	Posted - 2008.05.05 14:41:00 - [613] Originally by: Kusha'an Originally by: Grarr Dexx Eve's not supposed to be easy, now is it? Either offer a solution to this obvious problem or shut up. You've already made your point - i.e. "U alz suxor Eve duznt needz skill q lolz buncha f-in nubz roflmao I iz ubermmorpg plyrz" - so anything you say now is nothing but trolling. i think we should make it retroactive. he's been trolling for some weeks already. Originally by: Apertotes tbh, boot.ini was overpowered and needed a nerf
Grarr Dexx Amarr Naval Protection Corp Carpe Universitas	Posted - 2008.05.05 18:16:00 - [614] Here's your solution... It's been used since eve started... SET A LONGER SKILL IF YOU'RE NOT SURE YOU'RE GONNA MAKE IT BEFORE THE SKILL YOU SET ENDS. Thank you.
Sue Mee	Posted - 2008.05.05 18:49:00 - [615] Originally by: Grarr Dexx Here's your solution... It's been used since eve started... SET A LONGER SKILL IF YOU'RE NOT SURE YOU'RE GONNA MAKE IT BEFORE THE SKILL YOU SET ENDS. Thank you. oh my god. how can you be so thick. i cant believe it. is it a pose? or are you really that dumb? please, answer me, whether in caps or not, however you like, how do you set a long skill when the server is down and it shouldnt. please, come up with a valid answer, and we'll cease all this queue thing.
Grarr Dexx Amarr Naval Protection Corp Carpe Universitas	Posted - 2008.05.05 20:06:00 - [616] You set it before the server goes down, jeez even the latest news item tells you to do that, just in CASE, jesus ******* christ.
Sue Mee	Posted - 2008.05.05 20:31:00 - [617] Originally by: Grarr Dexx You set it before the server goes down, jeez even the latest news item tells you to do that, just in CASE, jesus ******* christ. yep, certainly, you are dumb. i have never seen an unexpected server downtime being broadcasted on the news item. you are setting new trolling standards.
Kusha'an Gallente Equinox Industrial Co.	Posted - 2008.05.05 21:34:00 - [618] Edited by: Kusha''an on 05/05/2008 21:35:00 Originally by: Grarr Dexx You set it before the server goes down, jeez even the latest news item tells you to do that, just in CASE, jesus ***** christ. Hey troll, I want you to respond to this post BEFORE I actually post it. Come on, you can do it. Troll is dumber than a bag of hammers. Go away, troll. ---- What part of "shorn't" do you not understand?**
Grarr Dexx Amarr Naval Protection Corp Carpe Universitas	Posted - 2008.05.05 21:38:00 - [619] Raage. When the server goes down, EVERYONE is affected. You are not the only one losing a skill change, other people are affected by this too! Even the five-year old player, who had his Cloaking III finish during an unexpected downtime! Poor him, right? No.
Sue Mee	Posted - 2008.05.05 21:50:00 - [620] Originally by: Grarr Dexx Raage. When the server goes down, EVERYONE is affected. You are not the only one losing a skill change, other people are affected by this too! Even the five-year old player, who had his Cloaking III finish during an unexpected downtime! Poor him, right? No. wow, so we come down to this, right? you aint got no reason or argument. only "since we all suffer, it is ok" i hope you never get any important job, or any place where your decissions matter the littlest bit. well, i rather prefer nobody had to suffer than everybody, but maybe its just that i am too generous.
Grarr Dexx Amarr Naval Protection Corp Carpe Universitas	Posted - 2008.05.05 23:52:00 - [621] Isn't that what you wanted? Keep up or catch up with the veterans of this game? Or should you suddenly get an advantage over them?
Kusha'an Gallente Equinox Industrial Co.	Posted - 2008.05.06 02:53:00 - [622] Originally by: Grarr Dexx Isn't that what you wanted? Keep up or catch up with the veterans of this game? Or should you suddenly get an advantage over them? What's it to you, noobtroll? ---- What part of "shorn't" do you not understand?
RisingStar1971	Posted - 2008.05.06 11:47:00 - [623] I admit, a queue system would be nice, AND I admit the arguments against it are sound. Since there is no cue system, this is what I do. (Feel free to use this system, I wont sue you or anything :)) 1. I decide on what skill I would like to train. (based on desire for a piece of equipment or whatever.) 2. I think about what day it is. (Ok am I working today, if so, what time am I supposed to be there) 3. I turn my head 90 degrees and look at the clock (you may have to turn your head farther to see your clock) 4. I compare the training time vs work time.(Lets say I have a skill training that takes 7 days. I need that missle launcher skill by the time I get home, says 3 hours. OK I have to be to work in 4. I will stop the 7 day training, start the missle launcher training, then switch back to the 7 day training 1 hour before work. Long skills like this get trained while Im at work or sleeping, short skills get trained while Im awake and home.) The point is to use your time as efficently as possible. And yes, sometimes you may waste 4 hours or even more not being able to get back to your machine to get that next skill training. This brings me to point 5 5. GET OVER IT!!!! This concludes my training guide.....I played 4 years ago and am now comming back into Eve. The training part seems pretty much the same, and this worked for me back then. Feel free to use this method IT COULD CHANGE YOUR LIFE, BUT IT WONT MAKE YOU RICH, MAKE YOU A BETTER LOVER, CURE DISESES, OR STOP YOUR WIFE FROM DIVORCING YOU. Some things you STILL have to actually DO. Star
Kusha'an Gallente Equinox Industrial Co.	Posted - 2008.05.06 14:47:00 - [624] Originally by: RisingStar1971 I admit, a queue system would be nice, AND I admit the arguments against it are sound. Since there is no cue system, this is what I do. (Feel free to use this system, I wont sue you or anything :)) 1. I decide on what skill I would like to train. (based on desire for a piece of equipment or whatever.) 2. I think about what day it is. (Ok am I working today, if so, what time am I supposed to be there) 3. I turn my head 90 degrees and look at the clock (you may have to turn your head farther to see your clock) 4. I compare the training time vs work time.(Lets say I have a skill training that takes 7 days. I need that missle launcher skill by the time I get home, says 3 hours. OK I have to be to work in 4. I will stop the 7 day training, start the missle launcher training, then switch back to the 7 day training 1 hour before work. Long skills like this get trained while Im at work or sleeping, short skills get trained while Im awake and home.) The point is to use your time as efficently as possible. And yes, sometimes you may waste 4 hours or even more not being able to get back to your machine to get that next skill training. This brings me to point 5 5. GET OVER IT!!!! This concludes my training guide.....I played 4 years ago and am now comming back into Eve. The training part seems pretty much the same, and this worked for me back then. Feel free to use this method IT COULD CHANGE YOUR LIFE, BUT IT WONT MAKE YOU RICH, MAKE YOU A BETTER LOVER, CURE DISESES, OR STOP YOUR WIFE FROM DIVORCING YOU. Some things you STILL have to actually DO. Star You obviously haven't read the entire thread before posting. Any 10-day old noob knows this. Count the pages in this thread. Do you REALLY think this hasn't been mentioned already? Thank you for your sarcastic and worthless noncontribution. ---- What part of "shorn't" do you not understand?
Veryez	Posted - 2008.05.06 18:35:00 - [625] Originally by: RisingStar1971 4. I compare the training time vs work time.(Lets say I have a skill training that takes 7 days. I need that missle launcher skill by the time I get home, says 3 hours. OK I have to be to work in 4. I will stop the 7 day training, start the missle launcher training, then switch back to the 7 day training 1 hour before work. Long skills like this get trained while Im at work or sleeping, short skills get trained while Im awake and home.) The point is to use your time as efficently as possible. And yes, sometimes you may waste 4 hours or even more not being able to get back to your machine to get that next skill training. This brings me to point 5 Isn't that quaint, someone who works a 8 hour day. Thought those went the way of the dinosaur. Well, lets say you work a 13 hour day, add a 1 hour commute which accounts for 15 hours of your time, add in that dreaded sleep stuff and eating and you quickly come to 2 to 3 hours of eve time on workdays. Normally not an issue, since I just train longer stuff when at work and shorter stuff when online. So please enlighten me, how do you manage to swap skills when Eve crashes? Especially when it happens in that all too brief 2 to 3 hour window. And since you've haven't been here for some time - it's not that infrequent.
Grarr Dexx Amarr Naval Protection Corp Carpe Universitas	Posted - 2008.05.06 19:38:00 - [626] Originally by: RisingStar1971 The point is to use your time as efficently as possible. And yes, sometimes you may waste 4 hours or even more not being able to get back to your machine to get that next skill training. This brings me to point 5 5. GET OVER IT!!!! This concludes my training guide.....I played 4 years ago and am now comming back into Eve. The training part seems pretty much the same, and this worked for me back then. Feel free to use this method IT COULD CHANGE YOUR LIFE, BUT IT WONT MAKE YOU RICH, MAKE YOU A BETTER LOVER, CURE DISESES, OR STOP YOUR WIFE FROM DIVORCING YOU. There you go.
Sharp Feather Gallente Ministry of Natural Resources OPUS Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.06 20:39:00 - [627] I look at your avatar, and you dont even need to say a word before I know you are an ''eloh ssa''... You must be really lonely to keep posting every 2sec in this thread... poor little weak thing.
Sue Mee	Posted - 2008.05.07 06:43:00 - [628] Originally by: Grarr Dexx Isn't that what you wanted? Keep up or catch up with the veterans of this game? Or should you suddenly get an advantage over them? what? you are completely wrong. nobody is talking about catching everybody. that is why your "we are all doomed as well" theory falls. we know we are not going to catch up veterans, and there is no need for it. we are glad with how the game rewards those that havee been training longer. but that has nothing to do with loosing training time when we have done all we could and it is not our fault. btw, you keep saying "its just a game", yet you post 3-5 times a day on this same thread. it looks as though this game is more important than your average one. you know, go out, get a girlfriend, watch a movie, play some football, read a book... eve is not the only thing to do on life.
Kusha'an Gallente Equinox Industrial Co.	Posted - 2008.05.08 13:33:00 - [629] Originally by: Grarr Dexx Isn't that what you wanted? Keep up or catch up with the veterans of this game? Or should you suddenly get an advantage over them? This is a really stupid argument. Obviously the veterans of the game would have the same skill queue, so there would be no advantage. And yes, it would be nice to keep up, that's only fair. Next trollish argument, please. ---- What part of "shorn't" do you not understand?
Pomdapi Gallente B4RB3CR3W	Posted - 2008.05.08 14:02:00 - [630] I think that a "one skill in queue" would be fine. So you can put a "short time" skill when you go offline and a "long time" skill in case you're not online when the "short time" skill as ended. Les pieds sur terre, Le coeur avec les hommes, La tOte dans les Ttoiles ! Mass Hysteria

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