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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Cult of Rawr
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Posted - 2008.03.02 09:22:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba YOU SHOULD HAVE LISTENED TO ME YOU ANAL RETENTIVE NUBS AND NOW YOUR IN HIDING AND MAKING ZERO ISK.
quoted for reasons unknown
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AmTek
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.02 09:37:00 -
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If you think it is grief play, then petition it. Otherwise adapt.
Grief Play and the Eve EULA:
http://www.eve-online.com/faq/faq_01.asp
12.11 What is grief play?
A grief player, or "griefer," is a player who devotes much of his time to making othersÆ lives miserable, in a large part deriving his enjoyment of the game from these activities. Grief tactics are the mechanics a griefer will utilize to antagonize other players.
This should not be confused with standard conflict that might arise between two players. At our discretion, players who are found to be consistently maliciously interfering with the game experience for others may receive a warning, temporary suspension or permanent banning of his account.
EVE OnlineÖ END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT
7. CONDUCT
C. Compliance with Rules of Conduct You agree to observe and abide by the Rules of Conduct as may be amended by CCP from time to time. The current version of the Rules of Conduct may be viewed at http://www.eve-online.com/pnp/terms.asp, and are incorporated in the EULA by reference.
EVE Online TERMS OF SERVICE
3 You may not organize nor be a member of any corporation or group within EVE Online that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-***, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies
4 You may not use ôrole-playingö as an excuse to violate these rules. While EVE Online is a persistent world, fantasy role-playing game, the claim of role-playing is not an acceptable defense for anti-social behavior. Role-playing is encouraged, but not at the expense of other player. You may not create or participate in a corporation or group that habitually violates this policy.
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Euriti
Gallente Black Podding
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Posted - 2008.03.02 09:47:00 -
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Carebear tears, the fuel of life. :D Honestly, this is hilarious, keep going Goonswarm.
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Lorieen
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Posted - 2008.03.02 09:50:00 -
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Maybe it time to go back to the ways it use to be done yrs ago and just mine in battleships. Won't help with ice mining but will with any other mining.
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Industrial Jay
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Posted - 2008.03.02 09:50:00 -
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LoL this is funny. I would be willing to bet that a lot of the exhumers being sold in empire now are being sold by Goons.
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Rod Blaine
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.03.02 09:54:00 -
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I don't think this was intended. But neither were macro miners and noobcorp-veterans. So it's all good, you never know what purpose it serves. [center] Old blog |

Jurgen Cartis
Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration
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Posted - 2008.03.02 10:03:00 -
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I can see the DCU II (and maybe even Local Hull Reinforced Bulkheads) becoming standard fitting on Exhumers for the next few weeks. . .
Oh, and Jihadswarm, post your losses.  -------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth |

Dai Nau
Mothership Connection Inc. GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.02 10:06:00 -
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Edited by: Dai Nau on 02/03/2008 10:06:24 no
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Burnharder
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Posted - 2008.03.02 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: Jurgen Cartis
Oh, and Jihadswarm, post your losses. 
Haha yes indeed.
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.03.02 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: Industrial Jay LoL this is funny. I would be willing to bet that a lot of the exhumers being sold in empire now are being sold by Goons.
I wouldn't be surprised by that either.  ---
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Silam Ryder
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Posted - 2008.03.02 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Silam Ryder
Originally by: Zeba Alot of crap
Hmmm you speak of mining in highsec yielding 50 - 100 mil a hour. How do you do that? Id like to know as ive been mining since forever and you clearly know a secret I dont know. You speak of sweet carebear tears, have you ever figured what would happend if noone buildt stuff in this game? No then go get a clue. You also mentioned some great tank the hulk can have? Well instead of flaming all carebears perhaps you can make a post here with that fitting and what lvl required and what lvl recomended for each skill?
How old are you btw?
To answer all your question in order:
4 max skill hulks easily rake in that amount of isk depending on how many shows I have recorded.
I have my little piddys dipped into every aspect of the game mate. YOU are my competition for isk hence anything that keeps you docked makes me profit.
As far as fittings if you can't figure it out yourself then maybe Eve is a bit too complicated then?
And I'm older than dirt and younger than God.

Hmmm funnily I have dipped something into every aspect of the game aswell. I dont wanna show you my epeen, but you would probs start sucking on it since youre a****.. I wanna see some calculations on youre maxed skilled hulks. Keep isk out of the picture. Make it m3. And its not really that hard to find fittings on theese forums, I just figured you had some magical fitting since you claim to be the ultimate carebear
I like the way you avoided all the answers.
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.03.02 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Silam Ryder inept attempt at getting a rise out of someone who knows better

Originally by: MM0RPG EVE Review "if you aren't my friend you are my income."
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Bazman
Caldari Shinra Shinra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.02 10:23:00 -
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Why don't people be enterprising instead of whining about the ganking?
Theres now a demand for more Exhumers, get building! :P -----
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Silam Ryder
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Posted - 2008.03.02 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Silam Ryder inept attempt at getting a rise out of someone who knows better

Ah anyways, soz you aint a****. But well how many m3 can you really pull on theese hulks? Be honest now. I can atm only pull 1670 m3 per laser. But then again I havent spendt isk on implants and stuff. And by that neglecting my tank.
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Fanjita
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Posted - 2008.03.02 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Relaed http://www.jihadswarm.com/?a=kills Killboard
Seems Goonswarm has decided to target and destroy every exhumer they can get their hands on. Over 140 Exhumers in one week so far, and counting.
There is no war dec or anything, so what is going on CCP?
Is it wrong for the Largest Alliance in the game to be able to use their overwhelming resources from 0.0. to build and suicide Battleships, just to harrass and ruin the game experience in empire space, for some many people, those that don't want to take part in 0.0 affairs? It is wrong.
Empire was not supposed to have such things occur on a regular basis. 140 Exhumers destroyed for nothing.
Seems CCP really needs to address this problem, punish the offending corp and or alliance for such blatant harassment, instead of locking it down and trying to hide the serious issue this is becoming.
Would you pay to play a game where all the high level characters could just come in and destroy everything you have worked for, with and for no good reason, and your losses are not even insurable, in an area where you are told it can't happen?
Where do we go to petition all these losses in empire space that are uninsured, and should be considered exploitative, harassment, and basically ruining Eve-online for at least 140 people....and counting.
I think each corp and alliance represented by the attackers, should have their security standings reduced, every member.
What do you folks think?
To answer your question yes i would im doing so now by playing eve.
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.03.02 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Silam Ryder
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Silam Ryder inept attempt at getting a rise out of someone who knows better

Ah anyways, soz you aint a****. But well how many m3 can you really pull on theese hulks? Be honest now. I can atm only pull 1670 m3 per laser. But then again I havent spendt isk on implants and stuff. And by that neglecting my tank.
By max skill I really mean max skill. All have level 5 in the relevant skills with 5% hardwireings for yield and tank with the gang leader having max leadership for tanking,yield and a mindlink. Do the math and fire up quick fit and you will get to the numbers and setups fast enough. If I'm being vauge then I apologize for being a Darwinist. 
Originally by: MM0RPG EVE Review "if you aren't my friend you are my income."
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akkria
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Posted - 2008.03.02 10:36:00 -
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"Is goonswarm wrong to target every Exhumer in empire for nothhing?"
-no, but hopefully they start branching out and start suiciding everything. If they push hard enough people are going to start pushing back. then maybe their alliance will be destroyed and i wont have to read the word goonswarm so often.
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Rickroller
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Posted - 2008.03.02 10:43:00 -
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If G00nSW4RM is wrong...
I dun want to be R1GHT lol!

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Sphynx Stormlord
Gallente Anqara Tech
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Posted - 2008.03.02 10:57:00 -
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One might assume that they are partialy in it for profit.
Ie maybe they have a big stockpile of minerals they want to sell, after the prices have increased due to reduced supply.
Or they are making the very ships they are ganking, and wanted to increase demand.
Those would both be very rational reasons for doing it.
Alternativly they just find it fun.
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Jurgen Cartis
Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration
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Posted - 2008.03.02 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Sphynx Stormlord One might assume that they are partialy in it for profit.
Ie maybe they have a big stockpile of minerals they want to sell, after the prices have increased due to reduced supply.
Or they are making the very ships they are ganking, and wanted to increase demand.
Those would both be very rational reasons for doing it.
Alternativly they just find it fun.
Or, they could just be doing it because it gives bored Goons something to shoot besides BoB or blues. And if said Goons cannot get to the front, you can be sure the leadership want them shooting something that is at least, not actively on their side. -------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth |
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Dai Nau
Mothership Connection Inc. GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.02 11:01:00 -
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420 shoot blues every day
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Chirruper
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Posted - 2008.03.02 11:09:00 -
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The main thread was closed for a reason. I will summarize the thread with one character:
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Kyoto Luyi
MX3 Development Zzz
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Posted - 2008.03.02 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
OLD NEWS
This.
Look Ma, I R poasting in anudder goons fred! -- The views or opinions I express are solely my own and do not reflect those of my Corporation or Alliance.. Oh, and I'm NOT allowed in CAOD either :) |

Dai Nau
Mothership Connection Inc. GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.02 11:12:00 -
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fooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
twentyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express Frontier Trade League
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Posted - 2008.03.02 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: cal nereus Edited by: cal nereus on 02/03/2008 05:17:57 I understand and appreciate where you are coming from, Relaed. Before I go on, I would like to recommend that you and other Exhumer pilots in high-sec take steps to defend yourself in-game. Start defenses gangs, use intel, use clever counter-strategies, fly through lower-population systems, avoid hotspots for these attacks, etc. I sympathize with your plight and hope you can find an in-game solution for your difficulties. Show those Goons what a miner with teeth is really capable of.
That said...
I would like to point out that Goons aren't attacking Exhumers for nothing.
It isn't really harassment either, since they're attacking indiscriminately.
CCP fully endorses "suicide" attacks in high-sec, as long as Concord gets to pew-pew too.
Goons are playing within the rules of the game, but you can fight back against them within the rules of the game too. Use the infinite tools you have at your disposal to counter their actions. You don't need an out-of-game power to save you.
Most of your measures will not work. There is no way to stop anyone from suiciding you. By the sheer fact they are suiciding they already expect to lose their ship and since you can't fire first then guards are meaningless.
The game needs to give in game tools to assist in such situations.
Some Ideas:
1. Instead of just the ship you targetting them auto targetting you, all ships in their gang autotarget you. (Of course this won't beat a passive targeter)
2. Allow an escort type skill that if you are ganged with someone and are assigned as escort you can do things for them, such as absorbing damage, firing on someone that targets them without Concord destroying you etc.
It is the lack of proper escort tools in game that causes these incidents. You could also lesson them if you removed concord payouts for ships destroyed while doing a criminal enterprise.
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Andtha Splits
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Posted - 2008.03.02 11:31:00 -
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No. |

Dai Nau
Mothership Connection Inc. GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.02 11:36:00 -
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man I haven't listened to the offspring since like the 4th grade
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Krackles
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Posted - 2008.03.02 11:40:00 -
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Spotted in Balle system about 20 minutes before downtime, lol. Pay up guys, and perhaps they will leave ya alone. But then again, they are Goons after all.
Celot > if you want to be in a hulk in empire in safety from allah's warriors you got to pay 50m/month
Celot > or 1b for your corp
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Dai Nau
Mothership Connection Inc. GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.02 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Krackles Spotted in Balle system about 20 minutes before downtime, lol. Pay up guys, and perhaps they will leave ya alone. But then again, they are Goons after all.
Celot > if you want to be in a hulk in empire in safety from allah's warriors you got to pay 50m/month
Celot > or 1b for your corp
that's me!!1 celot is best celot is best celot best
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mentalmarsupial
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Posted - 2008.03.02 11:48:00 -
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Just to say nice work Goons, clever way of pushing up prices. Quit crying 'bears and join a real corp for mutual benifit instead of just filling you banks. |
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