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Schani Kratnorr Internal Revenue Service	Posted - 2008.03.05 05:26:00 - [541] Originally by: Nohl Originally by: Schani Kratnorr Stuff I wrote (see above) This is definitely the way to go. Spam the moderators who are already up to their neck in reported posts. Spam the GMs who are already up to their neck in useless petitions. Tell CCP, "hey, i know it's not the game you want, but it's the one I want". Elaborate! Tell them why you're such a gifted little twit that you deserve it! There's no way you can lose with awesomeness like this. Wow you seem mad for a GoonSwarm Alt... The validity of a petition or report is perhaps best left up to the actual GM or moderator to decide. Perhaps you were rejected as GM once? do I detect a touch of bitternes? I sound like I care, I really dont. Now go back into your hole GS alt. plonk (that's you being added to the /ignore list) bye bye.
Blank Protection Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.03.05 06:41:00 - [542] Originally by: Relaed http://www.jihadswarm.com/?a=kills Killboard Seems Goonswarm has decided to target and destroy every exhumer they can get their hands on. Over 140 Exhumers in one week so far, and counting.......... There is no war dec or anything, so what is going on CCP?........ What do you folks think? Well what i think is where is you`re sense of humor?? You can always change you`re Exhumer for a tanking Domi with 5 T2 Cargo extenders and go on mining.
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.03.05 08:06:00 - [543] Ask yourself: what would Chribba do? --- Join BH-DL Skills
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.03.05 08:10:00 - [544] Originally by: cal nereus Ask yourself: what would Chribba do? Honor tank. I saw screenies of the veldnaught ------------ Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster
Jack Turrou Gallente	Posted - 2008.03.05 18:03:00 - [545] As a miner myself I might actually be rooting for Goonswarm for getting rid of the competition and the macro miners. However, they aren't doing this. In the system where I mine I've seen Goonswarm pop human hulk miners and leave the macro miners alone, intact, and unharmed. I believe it is possible that macro-miners united and paid Goonswarm a huge sum of ISK to attack all the real miners. So no clap clap for this, though the rise in ice prices is welcomed...
Everir Entar	Posted - 2008.03.05 18:21:00 - [546] Originally by: Jack Turrou As a miner myself I might actually be rooting for Goonswarm for getting rid of the competition and the macro miners. However, they aren't doing this. In the system where I mine I've seen Goonswarm pop human hulk miners and leave the macro miners alone, intact, and unharmed. I believe it is possible that macro-miners united and paid Goonswarm a huge sum of ISK to attack all the real miners. So no clap clap for this, though the rise in ice prices is welcomed... Pure Tin Foil Hattery. Conspiracy + 1 If you see a Goon member in your system, just dock.
Vincent La Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.05 18:32:00 - [547] Originally by: Jack Turrou As a miner myself I might actually be rooting for Goonswarm for getting rid of the competition and the macro miners. However, they aren't doing this. In the system where I mine I've seen Goonswarm pop human hulk miners and leave the macro miners alone, intact, and unharmed. I believe it is possible that macro-miners united and paid Goonswarm a huge sum of ISK to attack all the real miners. So no clap clap for this, though the rise in ice prices is welcomed... Macro miners tank Pubbies fit rigs and cargo holds A true mystery
Jack Turrou Gallente	Posted - 2008.03.05 18:34:00 - [548] Originally by: Vincent La Macro miners tank Pubbies fit rigs and cargo holds A true mystery Ok, I can understand that. But can a Hulk really tank 6-8BCs? I fly a hulk with a shield tank and 6 destroyers almost took me out.
RedlegSA Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.05 18:40:00 - [549] Originally by: Jack Turrou I've seen Goonswarm pop human hulk miners and leave the macro miners alone, intact, and unharmed. Many of the ships I have helped destroy have pods that remain in space for several minutes, go dock, then come back out to the belt in a pod, sit there for several minutes - and repeat this for hours. Its pretty funny to watch.
Jack Turrou Gallente	Posted - 2008.03.05 18:44:00 - [550] Originally by: RedlegSA Originally by: Jack Turrou I've seen Goonswarm pop human hulk miners and leave the macro miners alone, intact, and unharmed. Many of the ships I have helped destroy have pods that remain in space for several minutes, go dock, then come back out to the belt in a pod, sit there for several minutes - and repeat this for hours. Its pretty funny to watch. Thanks for the info. If this is true then you're doing everyone a service. Happy hunting...

Vincent La Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.05 18:48:00 - [551] Edited by: Vincent La on 05/03/2008 18:49:01 Edited by: Vincent La on 05/03/2008 18:48:22 Originally by: Jack Turrou Originally by: Vincent La Macro miners tank Pubbies fit rigs and cargo holds A true mystery Ok, I can understand that. But can a Hulk really tank 6-8BCs? I fly a hulk with a shield tank and 6 destroyers almost took me out. When alone, you die When with friends, out-tank your friends Civilian shields, cripes
Sekket Caldari White-Noise	Posted - 2008.03.05 18:52:00 - [552] Originally by: Vincent La Originally by: Jack Turrou As a miner myself I might actually be rooting for Goonswarm for getting rid of the competition and the macro miners. However, they aren't doing this. In the system where I mine I've seen Goonswarm pop human hulk miners and leave the macro miners alone, intact, and unharmed. I believe it is possible that macro-miners united and paid Goonswarm a huge sum of ISK to attack all the real miners. So no clap clap for this, though the rise in ice prices is welcomed... Macro miners tank Pubbies fit rigs and cargo holds A true mystery I'm sure macro miners complain in local less also...
Xavieer Naidoo	Posted - 2008.03.05 18:56:00 - [553] I agree - they do it because they can. That's great. BUT... I think we are missing one thing here: the roleplay aspect of the whole operation. Goons are flying "suicide battleships" ? Ships have crews. So... 300+ exhumers destroyed by 300+ "suicide battleships" = 300 x 6500 = 1.950.000 lives lost (Concord provides insta-pop...) Seriously... crews would riot, and would not take part in suicide operations: "Hey... we are all going to die because the captain wants us to destroy that Hulk in the Empire... and they will pay him for that... Roger! Man the battlestations!" Correct me if I'm wrong - as far as the game mechanics go - the whole operation should be possible, but as far as the roleplaying goes - it should not happen.
Vincent La Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.05 19:01:00 - [554] Originally by: Sekket I'm sure macro miners complain in local less also... There are a few Goons that speak Chinese, they've gotten us some great chatlogs. It's also fun when I get an evemail full of Engrish rage.
Volir Deep Space HVAC	Posted - 2008.03.05 19:06:00 - [555] Originally by: Xavieer Naidoo I agree - they do it because they can. That's great. BUT... I think we are missing one thing here: the roleplay aspect of the whole operation. Goons are flying "suicide battleships" ? Ships have crews. So... 300+ exhumers destroyed by 300+ "suicide battleships" = 300 x 6500 = 1.950.000 lives lost (Concord provides insta-pop...) Seriously... crews would riot, and would not take part in suicide operations: "Hey... we are all going to die because the captain wants us to destroy that Hulk in the Empire... and they will pay him for that... Roger! Man the battlestations!" Correct me if I'm wrong - as far as the game mechanics go - the whole operation should be possible, but as far as the roleplaying goes - it should not happen. The crews are the true martyrs. They must be happy to die for their God and in his holy service. The conditions that normal citizens endure is deplorable on planets and in stations; they would happily join any of these crews for the glory... and their families are well compensated.
Bish Ounen Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.03.05 19:10:00 - [556] Originally by: Vincent La Originally by: Sekket I'm sure macro miners complain in local less also... There are a few Goons that speak Chinese, they've gotten us some great chatlogs. It's also fun when I get an evemail full of Engrish rage. Hey, you guys gonna visit Auvergne any time soon? Every frigging belt I go to is full of hulks just SITTING there, even after the belt is empty! Auvergne needs a CLEANING! (Then maybe I can actually find more real miners to can flip. Stupid macroers never use cans!)
Saint Lazarus DROW Org Brotherhood of the Spider	Posted - 2008.03.05 19:12:00 - [557] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Not only is it not wrong for Goonswarm to do this, it is one of the few things Goonswarm has actually done right! Bit of advice for the carebears: by clicking the "subscribe" button, you consent to PvP. There is no such thing as "safe space", only "I can kill you easily and take your stuff" and "I have to work a bit harder to kill you and take your stuff". Saying you were killed "for nothing" is just silly, there is no such thing as "for nothing" in EVE. Everything from "you have stuff I want" to "I like to see pretty explosions" to "it's tuesday and I'm eating a pizza" is a legitimate reason to kill you. As for your laughable idea of petitioning the losses, allow me to quote CCP's player guide (you know, that thing you should have read) on this issue: ... Ratings of 0.5 and above can be considered relatively safe ... Please note that no matter where you are, there is no absolute guarantee you will not be attacked. Concord hands out retribution, but cannot promise constant protection. So yeah, I feel so dirty saying this, but good hunting, Goonswarm! L O L, BoB defending Goons ^^ Tis a good post in itself but the fact its a sworn enemy hes defending just makes this whole thing funnier and makes me love EvE that much more, tis a great game GO GO GOONS Please resize signature to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Xavieer Naidoo	Posted - 2008.03.05 19:27:00 - [558] Originally by: Volir The crews are the true martyrs. They must be happy to die for their God and in his holy service. The conditions that normal citizens endure is deplorable on planets and in stations; they would happily join any of these crews for the glory... and their families are well compensated. Ok, Amarr have slaves... what about Gallente crews ?
TeddyBr FTW Caldari TeddyBr's Revenge	Posted - 2008.03.05 19:40:00 - [559] I am providing a service of killing Goonies in high sec space. This service is to provide an outlet for all the miners who have been killed off by the Goonies recently and any others who just plain don't like the Goonies. If enough isk is sent in I will hire a second merc group to hunt down their alt industrial corps to hurt their logistical capabilies. (Bob take notice plz) Goonie Gasbags On Notice: Death Is Coming (R.E.P.O. Hired)
Kash Ka Amarr Cosmic Vacum Cleaners	Posted - 2008.03.05 19:42:00 - [560] I support the JihadSawrm, kill those miners those flthy miners. ---------=================--------- I study the art of pew pew... boom!

cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.03.05 19:44:00 - [561] Edited by: cal nereus on 05/03/2008 19:45:30 A well fitted Hulk can tank just fine actually. Some exhumers have been known to act as bait or even destroy PvP ships themselves. It's not impossible, just rare and inefficient. Of course, you ideally don't want to resort to tanking in a Hulk. Instead, just avoid those systems where Goons go roaming. --- Join BH-DL Skills
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.03.05 19:47:00 - [562] Originally by: Xavieer Naidoo I agree - they do it because they can. That's great. BUT... I think we are missing one thing here: the roleplay aspect of the whole operation. Goons are flying "suicide battleships" ? Ships have crews. So... 300+ exhumers destroyed by 300+ "suicide battleships" = 300 x 6500 = 1.950.000 lives lost (Concord provides insta-pop...) Seriously... crews would riot, and would not take part in suicide operations: "Hey... we are all going to die because the captain wants us to destroy that Hulk in the Empire... and they will pay him for that... Roger! Man the battlestations!" Correct me if I'm wrong - as far as the game mechanics go - the whole operation should be possible, but as far as the roleplaying goes - it should not happen. You forget, this is "jihad"-swarm. Each and every crew-member is promised tons of virgins after death. --- Join BH-DL Skills
Vincent La Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.05 19:56:00 - [563] Originally by: TeddyBr FTW I am providing a service of killing Goonies in high sec space. This service is to provide an outlet for all the miners who have been killed off by the Goonies recently and any others who just plain don't like the Goonies. If enough isk is sent in I will hire a second merc group to hunt down their alt industrial corps to hurt their logistical capabilies. (Bob take notice plz) Goonie Gasbags On Notice: Death Is Coming (R.E.P.O. Hired) More wardecs, please
Xavieer Naidoo	Posted - 2008.03.05 22:23:00 - [564] Originally by: cal nereus You forget, this is "jihad"-swarm. Each and every crew-member is promised tons of virgins after death. Lol. That's a good point. But sut seriously... I know that Amarr people are dumb and might believe in that sort of crap... What about other crews ? Explanation ? Anybody ? From roleplaying point of view, this operation would never be possible.
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.05 22:30:00 - [565] Edited by: Gamesguy on 05/03/2008 22:30:15 Originally by: Xavieer Naidoo Originally by: cal nereus You forget, this is "jihad"-swarm. Each and every crew-member is promised tons of virgins after death. Lol. That's a good point. But sut seriously... I know that Amarr people are dumb and might believe in that sort of crap... What about other crews ? Explanation ? Anybody ? From roleplaying point of view, this operation would never be possible. In the backstory, we have an engagement between an armageddon(not pod pilot) that attacked someone else in highsec space. The response was a single raven from the Caldari navy, it wasnt omnipotent concord ships with YOU WILL DIE dps and tank. In the backstory, its quite possible for a pod pilot to commite a crime in highsec, kill the police that tried to fight him, and leave.
Xavieer Naidoo	Posted - 2008.03.05 23:29:00 - [566] Originally by: Gamesguy In the backstory, we have an engagement between an armageddon(not pod pilot) that attacked someone else in highsec space. The response was a single raven from the Caldari navy, it wasnt omnipotent concord ships with YOU WILL DIE dps and tank. In the backstory, its quite possible for a pod pilot to commite a crime in highsec, kill the police that tried to fight him, and leave. Well, I presume that's quite "realistic" and that's how it would look from the roleplay aspect. But we were talking about "suicide battleships" because that's how this looks in EVE right now. The devs are not gonna say: "Well...ummm... they didn't really explode... it's the game mechanics... in reality they've flown away."
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.03.05 23:51:00 - [567] Well, technically, we have unlimited crew right? That doesn't make sense roleplay-wise, but it's the only reason to explain why so many crews can die while ships are getting replaced left and right. Unless we clone our crews. --- Join BH-DL Skills
Nadarius Chrome Celestial Horizon Corp.	Posted - 2008.03.06 00:03:00 - [568] All I can really make of this is that goonswarm wants its members to mine Veldspar in 0.0.
Tankn00blicus Cosmic Vacum Cleaners	Posted - 2008.03.06 00:55:00 - [569] Hey, now I'm a miner currently flying a retriever and training for a hulk and I like this. Things like this make the game pretty damn interesting.
dropouthighschoolteacher	Posted - 2008.03.06 00:56:00 - [570] Originally by: cal nereus Instead, just avoid those systems where Goons go roaming. Minmatar space is safer it seems. "As of this post, I am now surrendering Minmitar space as unholy land. You will be allowed to mass mine and defile this territory without fear of suicide attacks or aggression from JihadSwarm." http://www.jihadswarm.com/?a=message



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