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gallente OU812
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Posted - 2008.03.04 07:43:00 -
[421]
Actually zeba you missed my point. My post isn't about 'fixing the goon problem'. There is no goon problem. My point is t2 ship should be able to be properly insured. That's it. It has nothing to do with goons.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.03.04 07:48:00 -
[422]
 Originally by: gallente OU812
Actually zeba you missed my point. My post isn't about 'fixing the goon problem'. There is no goon problem. My point is t2 ship should be able to be properly insured. That's it. It has nothing to do with goons.
Irrelevant. Fully insured T2 ships would be the plauge of every battlefield. How the hell are you gonna have a war of attrition if your enemy just goes "lulz I waz insurde. I only lost 15 minutes of ratting in isk hurhur^^:B"
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Jane Err
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Posted - 2008.03.04 07:55:00 -
[423]
LOL, since when is plague a bad thing. Besides, didn't goonswarm pioneer the idea that a blob of t1 can 'plague' a battlefield?
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Zeba
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.03.04 08:04:00 -
[424]
Originally by: Jane Err
LOL, since when is plague a bad thing. Besides, didn't goonswarm pioneer the idea that a blob of t1 can 'plague' a battlefield?
T1 is one thing due to its average tank and decent dps. You need alot of them to be effective. T2 on the other hand with its uber resists and painful dps are something you don't want to see in throwaway ganks or ongoing alliance warfare. T2 insurance would completely obsolete the entire T1 line of ships due to the new cost effectiveness of risking your T2 in battle with no risk that couldn't be overcome by an hour or so ratting in 0.0 or a few level 4 missions.
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.03.04 09:19:00 -
[425]
I think it was explained somewhere at sometime that CONCORD is not the police. They aren't protecting people's lives, they're just popping ships that don't follow the standard operating procedures of killing people.
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Brainless Bimbo
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Posted - 2008.03.04 09:30:00 -
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400 exhumers since feb 12 is exactly what percentage of of total high sec exhumers?
Anyway, the GoonSwarm are playing yankie corporate neo-con, control the basis of the engine of production if not by possession then by terror or coersion and you control the world.
Also notice how all the losses the goon alliance suffered by suicide are not listed on thier operation board, another neo-con trick to fool both us and thier worker bee's. They don't even honour thier martyrs so they know its a shamefull act and not a struggle.
The only point raised regards the game engine is that "A Concord kill should VIOD the criminals insurance"
Every thing else is geo-politics with the NPC states being too frightened to acknowledge that war in a phyicial and ecomonic sense has been declared on them, but maybe their forces are using the more appropriate and less visible police route instead of the military overkill route as its more effect against terror.
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Sam Ryder
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Posted - 2008.03.04 09:37:00 -
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Tbh I cant see what the problem is. Ive been a carebear for a year or so on quite a few accounts. In 6 months or so I can afford a Titan, Atm I can afford a deadspace fitted mothership or two.
So how bad is it if they kill a couple hulks? Let the goons play, apparantly 0.0 isnt fun after theyve blobbed it to pieces with their 3 - 4 mil sp t1 cruiser pilots
The fun here is when all those very able commandship pilots takes their 65 billion isk and joins the side who fights goons. This is what I would want to see..
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Raekone
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Posted - 2008.03.04 09:51:00 -
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You OMG ADAPT people are so ridiculously clueless it's actually funny. lol.
If someone puts into practise to regularly and reliably blow up people in highsec, then
1) CCP are more than likely to change the game mechanics to accommodate the industrialists.
2) CCP are more than likely to change the game mechanics to accommodate the industrialists.
3) CCP are more than likely to change the game mechanics to accommodate the industrialists.
4) CCP are more than likely to change the game mechanics to accommodate the industrialists.
5) CCP are more than likely to change the game mechanics to accommodate the industrialists.
So basically in the end everyone except the miners will suffer. Or is this difficult to understand?
So as a quick bit of fun, blowing up miners is good - but as some kind of bold statement against carebear miners and the security of highsec it just plain fails 
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Krebbs
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.04 10:38:00 -
[429]
Edited by: Krebbs on 04/03/2008 10:44:15
Edited by: Krebbs on 04/03/2008 10:40:30
Interesting to see Hulk miners on both sides of the fence here. I noticed that the ones screaming the loudest for CCP to intervene at the same time refuse to take measures to protect their investment. Those that do are either indifferent or happy to see other miners getting blown up (Less Competition). All it takes to reduce your risk is drop your mining laser upgrades in favor of a proper tank. The ISK you keep from not having to replace your ship should far outweigh the extra 1~2 mil per hour you get with upgrades.
Also, lets be realistic. At any given moment there are maybe 15-20 suicide gankers killing exhumers in hisec (Yeah, I pulled it out of my ***, but even that seems a little high). There are approximately a lot more than 20 systems you could be mining in RELATIVE safety. I'd bet money that most if not all of them are in heavily populated mining systems looking for soft targets. Is it that hard to go one or two jumps out of your way to avoid traffic and suicide gankers?
P.S.
Show me a serious post from a GS director saying we are out to destroy the game, and I will believe your BS. (CAOD doesn't count)
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Quelque Chose
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.03.04 10:51:00 -
[430]
Originally by: Krebbs
Edited by: Krebbs on 04/03/2008 10:44:15
approximately a lot more than 20
I dunno man you seem awfully sure of that number. 
But anyway, what are you nuts? Shut up already! I spent plenty of time searching out low traffic, high yield systems and a lot more time than that (approximately) grinding tax break missions for unpopular (and rightly so) NPC corps precisely so I wouldn't have to put up with the yammering nincompoops you're now trying to foist off on me.
For shame sir, for shame. You are truly the most grievous griefer of the lot.
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Seishomaru
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Posted - 2008.03.04 11:01:00 -
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Goons are the first power in eve history that is both strong enough and have the proper resolution and midset to chalange empire.
THis goon movment might be the best thing that ever happened in eve. Of course will not run forever, eventually they will get bored. But its Needed. Eve should have at most 20% of its people living in empire, because they are not strogn enough to go out.
People mining in barges in high sec are very very very suspicious to me. Why woudl anyone, except ifyou are reaaally adicted to mining (a.ka chriba) stay mining in high sec? Well because you are a macro or you need to do it 23/7 to sell it. Of course there are exceptions, and fair players. But i feel they are the minority of high sec barge players.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
Night's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.03.04 11:13:00 -
[432]
Hey, I absolutely love what Goonswarm is doing, I caught my first Hulk today in a low-sec belt.
The noob went mining to Tama, of all the places. There's probably 100ish ship deaths there every day and just four belts (the only system which is worse then it is really Amamake (which is madness).
What's not to love about what they're doing? ;)
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Nianda SeCann
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Posted - 2008.03.04 11:15:00 -
[433]
Originally by: Jane Err
LOL, since when is plague a bad thing. Besides, didn't goonswarm pioneer the idea that a blob of t1 can 'plague' a battlefield?
no wasn't them, that idea was round back when most of the goonies were thin. Long time ago judging by thier membership vid 
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flakeys
Tier 3 Technologies Inc
Lazy is our middle name
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Posted - 2008.03.04 11:15:00 -
[434]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
And I will repeat my offer again:
To those of you who are threatening to strike/quit/whatever, please do so. Don't just threaten, do it right now. To help you strike this blow against CCP, I will remove the temptation to ever return to EVE. Assuming your character is able to fly a Hulk, I will give you a month's subscription to the MMORPG of your choice in exchange for it.
Now, either take the deal, or shut up about how you're going to quit and screw all of us PvPers. Your empty threats are just irritating.
Ah crap must have missed that one.I ordered POTBS allready last night so uhm....can i get a refund from you?
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Anita Pakonen
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Posted - 2008.03.04 11:30:00 -
[435]
All barges/exhumers must be cleansed out of the empire space.
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Keden
Minmatar
Black Company Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.04 11:37:00 -
[436]
Carebears arent people, they are just giant floating pinatas
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Gealbhan
Caldari
The SAS
The Kano Organisation
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Posted - 2008.03.04 11:50:00 -
[437]
Nowhere in Eve is 100% safe and I like that fact.
Yes, I feel sorry for someone that just got their Hulk or whatever and it gets splattered but that's life in Eve-o.
My only fear is enough people will whine and empire will be made totally non-pvp except for war declarations & that would bight.
In a perverse kind of way it could be Goon trying to rid empire of macro miners?
I can see it now on EvE-TV, the Killer Bees swarm is moving through (system name) lock your windows and stay inside!
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Oriella Trikassi
Trikassi Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.03.04 13:12:00 -
[438]
Originally by: Seishomaru
People mining in barges in high sec are very very very suspicious to me.
My mining alt does so. She doesn't sell the ore, she mines for her Corp. She's also a factory slave so she can't base herself out in the wilds, she just pops out and mines when I'm doing other things, like reading forums. Since it's just her she's not emptying fields and depriving newbies of anything.
It would be no meaningful loss for her to be ganked, though I might start quibbling and call her into the office for a chat if it got to a Hulk a day! If the Goons or anyone else enjoy running around annoying people that's fine with me and entirely within the spirit of Eve. There is little competition in my chosen Eve occupations, and I'd welcome more of it.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.03.04 13:16:00 -
[439]
Originally by: Wloire
Real Wolrd Physics coming into this argument. Can you as a random citizen of whatever country you belong to be shot and killed in front of a police station?
Considering how inept or outright corrupt the law is in most of the world you so gladly suggested as an RL reference, I propose that you, a random citizen of whatever country, are just as likely to be shot IN the police station as in front of it.
I think CONCORD's pretty realistic in this regard. Like most law enforcement agencies, they're thoroughly inept and excessively brutal. They'll gladly wipe out a battleship crew of six thousand because their vessel shot an inanimate cargo can, but won't respond fast enough to save a dying miner. I also think the cries of these bleating carebears will go as unheard as the cries of Kitty Genovese in 1964 New York - now that's a real world allegory you should look up.
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Seishomaru
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Posted - 2008.03.04 13:22:00 -
[440]
Originally by: Oriella Trikassi
Originally by: Seishomaru
People mining in barges in high sec are very very very suspicious to me.
My mining alt does so. She doesn't sell the ore, she mines for her Corp. She's also a factory slave so she can't base herself out in the wilds, she just pops out and mines when I'm doing other things, like reading forums. Since it's just her she's not emptying fields and depriving newbies of anything.
It would be no meaningful loss for her to be ganked, though I might start quibbling and call her into the office for a chat if it got to a Hulk a day! If the Goons or anyone else enjoy running around annoying people that's fine with me and entirely within the spirit of Eve. There is little competition in my chosen Eve occupations, and I'd welcome more of it.
there is the point! You use it to "play afk" CCP devs stated several times this game is not to be played afk and they usually make things to make life as hard as possible for afk players.
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Whineroy
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Posted - 2008.03.04 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I also think the cries of these bleating carebears will go as unheard as the cries of Kitty Genovese in 1964 New York - now that's a real world allegory you should look up.
Bleating carebears... And here, kids and adults, is yet another textbook example of some "pirates" at Eve being nothing more than people who have hard time in RL and who have to compensate for that by having power trips at online games (and without a pair to admit that they are having such power trips).
Especially considering the fact that anyone with more than one brain cell realizes that Goons themselves are just as much carebears in this issue as their victims (ISK loss is minimal and sec status can be got back in few hours), just that admitting *that* would ruin all those beautiful "me big bad, that means me > all the f00king n00b carebears"- fantasies.
Sad, yet also funny.
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Chirruper
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Posted - 2008.03.04 13:30:00 -
[442]
Originally by: Whineroy
Bleating carebears... And here, kids and adults, is yet another textbook example of some "pirates" at Eve being nothing more than people who have hard time in RL and who have to compensate for that by having power trips at online games (and without a pair to admit that they are having such power trips).
Especially considering the fact that anyone with more than one brain cell realizes that Goons themselves are just as much carebears in this issue as their victims (ISK loss is minimal and sec status can be got back in few hours), just that admitting *that* would ruin all those beautiful "me big bad, that means me > all the f00king n00b carebears"- fantasies.
Sad, yet also funny.
Wrong. Some people just see the absurdity in applying humanitarian ethics to virtual property. Its called the thrill of the hunt.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.04 13:31:00 -
[443]
Yes, it's true. I have never had a job/friend/girlfriend/life/degree from school, and infact, live in a basement and all the light I get is from the computer screen.
You have totally pegged us all, with your expert Jungian analysis. I'm gonna go cry now.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
Night's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.03.04 13:32:00 -
[444]
Edited by: Cpt Branko on 04/03/2008 13:32:36
Originally by: Whineroy
Bleating carebears... And here, kids and adults, is yet another textbook example of some "pirates" at Eve being nothing more than people who have hard time in RL and who have to compensate... blah blah blah, they all live in mother's basement and compensate for their small e-peen by ganking poor innocents, blah blah
Well, see, that's a bleating carebear (and a truly superb psychologist, at that, all carebears seem to be!)
While suicide ganking is not very risky ISK-wise (I mean, the ship loss you've already accepted and fitted accordingly plus got premium insurance), partaking in not very risky schemes does not define someone as a carebear.
Look at who's pulluting the forums by 'I got ganked, nerf!'? Bleating carebear tears would not be as tasty if they weren't crying/whining about it so much.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2008.03.04 13:32:00 -
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after enjoying a fine dining experience in nol goonswarm returns the favor to bob by not only making bob market dominance more profitable but also bringing them very determined applicants
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Nasta443
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Posted - 2008.03.04 13:41:00 -
[446]
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I also think the cries of these bleating carebears will go as unheard as the cries of Kitty Genovese in 1964 New York - now that's a real world allegory you should look up.
Every time I read about that it makes my blood boil 
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so broke
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Posted - 2008.03.04 13:48:00 -
[447]
All I ask is for CCP give me one more highslot on the Hulk.... I need a gun.
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Barbaro55a
Caldari
Amesha Spentaz
Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.04 13:48:00 -
[448]
Originally by: hangnoose
LOOK LOOK I'M CARING!
Wait........... no i'm not.
Quoting from front page.
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Nasta443
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Posted - 2008.03.04 13:49:00 -
[449]
Originally by: flakeys
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
And I will repeat my offer again:
To those of you who are threatening to strike/quit/whatever, please do so. Don't just threaten, do it right now. To help you strike this blow against CCP, I will remove the temptation to ever return to EVE. Assuming your character is able to fly a Hulk, I will give you a month's subscription to the MMORPG of your choice in exchange for it.
Now, either take the deal, or shut up about how you're going to quit and screw all of us PvPers. Your empty threats are just irritating.
Ah crap must have missed that one.I ordered POTBS allready last night so uhm....can i get a refund from you?
If you can fly a hulk decently I'll be more than happy to purchase your character in exchange for a month of potbs if merin doesn't follow through.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.03.04 13:50:00 -
[450]
Edited by: Istvaan Shogaatsu on 04/03/2008 13:52:29
Originally by: Whineroy
Bleating carebears... And here, kids and adults, is yet another textbook example of some "pirates" at Eve being nothing more than people who have hard time in RL and who have to compensate for that by having power trips at online games (and without a pair to admit that they are having such power trips).
Admit it? I've only been admitting it for the past four years of playing Eve. I even admitted it on national TV. I am not a pirate, I am a griefer - and I loathe your kind. I would much rather kill a defenceless, bleating, terrified carebear than an equally skilled PVPer. The PVPer is not satisfying to kill - he will simply say 'gg' and get on with life.
Not the carebear. The carebear will scream, hiss, spit, threaten your life, petition you, fill evemails and forum posts with such wonderful vitriol and hatred... mmm. I relish it, like a delectable wine. I draw succour from your misery. After all, why hurt it if it won't scream?
I look forward to your next psychoanalysis :>
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