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Count Spectacula
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:13:00 -
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The Economist wrote:What an amazing pile of steaming **** based on lies, misconceptions and endless exagerration. The situation presented as being responded to simply doesn't represent reality, but rather the deluded and deliberately misleading view of a vocal minority and those who don't know any better.
You, however, should know better CCP.
I can only hope this is laying the groundwork for an epic early April fools joke as opposed to being a concerted effort to bore all titan pilots into never logging in again (except for those wierdos who genuinely enjoy doing nothing but bridging).
Wow, just wow.
Yes yes, the majority of players and their titans are certainly more important than the remaining minority of lowly titanless pilots. Maybe titan pilots should start an Occupy Eve movement being the 99% and all. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2887
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:13:00 -
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The Economist wrote:What an amazing pile of steaming **** based on lies, misconceptions and endless exagerration. The situation presented as being responded to simply doesn't represent reality, but rather the deluded and deliberately misleading view of a vocal minority and those who don't know any better.
You, however, should know better CCP.
I can only hope this is laying the groundwork for an epic early April fools joke as opposed to being a concerted effort to bore all titan pilots into never logging in again (except for those wierdos who genuinely enjoy doing nothing but bridging).
Wow, just wow.
I'm glad the vocal majority is well aware of the capabilities of tracking-fit titans and finds their ability to bring 0.0 combat to a halt perfectly balanced ;p "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2887
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:14:00 -
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FeLiZk wrote:Better to restart the server, would that be fair enough for you.
Risk / Reward anyone ever heard this concept, thought it was what this game was suppose to be based on.
Yes you risk all of your titans when you drop them en masse ahahah "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
GeneralDisturbed
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
50
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:14:00 -
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FeLiZk wrote:Griznatch wrote:The Economist wrote:What an amazing pile of steaming **** based on lies, misconceptions and endless exagerration. The situation presented as being responded to simply doesn't represent reality, but rather the deluded and deliberately misleading view of a vocal minority and those who don't know any better.
You, however, should know better CCP.
I can only hope this is laying the groundwork for an epic early April fools joke as opposed to being a concerted effort to bore all titan pilots into never logging in again (except for those wierdos who genuinely enjoy doing nothing but bridging).
Wow, just wow. If not a single titan pilot ever logs into this game again, the quality of this game will improve by several orders of magnitude. Better to restart the server, would that be fair enough for you. Risk / Reward anyone ever heard this concept, thought it was what this game was suppose to be based on.
It's a shame that everytime your group deploys their Iwin button, they take absoutely no risk. Being in a massive blob of invincible ships.
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Doctor Eezee
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
72
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:14:00 -
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Swearte Widfarend wrote:[quote=Dabigredboat][quote=The Mittani] This supposed change will do little to the nullsec battlefield. It will do little to skilled players with Titans who understand game mechanics. It will do nothing to Titan proliferation (743 as of this morning's capital tweet). The smart thing to do is to actually fix them, give them a place or pull them from the game, refund Titan-related skill points and the ship's mineral value in ISK to the pilots.
This man should be on the CSM! "My rule is: If you meet the weakest vessel, attack; if it is a vessel equal to yours, attack; and if it is stronger than yours, also attack..." - Admiral Stepan O. Makarov |
Tector
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
37
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:15:00 -
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The Economist wrote:What an amazing pile of steaming **** based on lies, misconceptions and endless exagerration. The situation presented as being responded to simply doesn't represent reality, but rather the deluded and deliberately misleading view of a vocal minority and those who don't know any better.
You, however, should know better CCP.
I can only hope this is laying the groundwork for an epic early April fools joke as opposed to being a concerted effort to bore all titan pilots into never logging in again (except for those wierdos who genuinely enjoy doing nothing but bridging).
Wow, just wow.
Yes clearly titan pilots outnumber the people in subcaps they blast with impunity. |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5948
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:15:00 -
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Swearte Widfarend wrote:The smart thing to do is to actually fix them, give them a place or pull them from the game, refund Titan-related skill points and the ship's mineral value in ISK to the pilots.
I think 'remove all supercaps from Eve, refund bpos and isk cost' is something all of us can get behind. I'm glad you see it my way. The Mittani, CSM7: Vote Here - One EVE. One Vote. One Chairman
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
Thora82
Kriegsmarinewerft Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:16:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:asdf ghyj wrote:Dear CCP if do this nerf then gief back to all pilots titan skills cuz we spend 5 bil for skill and 100 bils = for titan and wasting like 3 month + for make skill AND NOW WE CANT USE THIS SHIP cuz this MITANI not have skill and isk to take titan
MR MITANI go play PREPELIX ONLINE and stop cry to CCP cuz u guys (goon) cant fly titans
OR MAKE SERVER FOR GOONS AND LET US PLAY FAIR And CCp what prefer to have 6-7k players( goons) or 60k players ?????? Think before do wrong changes I fly an Erebus, and have one of the largest Titan fleets in the galaxy. The hard fact is that the fault lies with the people who used Titans to annihilate subcaps en masse, and then had the poor judgement to laugh about it, congratulate themselves, and keep doing it. If RDN, NCdot and PL hadn't gone whole-hog abusing an obviously broken mechanic, this nerf would have never happened. They may tell themselves that the inarguable imbalance of blapping titans was a sign of their 'skill' or 'superiority' - the same excuses offered forth throughout the history of the Titan, justifying Remote Doomsdays, AoE Doomsdays, etc etc. The same old guard players, the same old guard excuses, the same old-guard entitlement. Ultimately, the nemesis of titans was the poor impulse control of their own pilots - the inability, when faced with what amounted to a free bar, not to drink themselves into blundering violence and to assault the other guests.
what he said
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Griznatch
Xicron Syndicate Tus Network
72
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:16:00 -
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FeLiZk wrote:Griznatch wrote:The Economist wrote:What an amazing pile of steaming **** based on lies, misconceptions and endless exagerration. The situation presented as being responded to simply doesn't represent reality, but rather the deluded and deliberately misleading view of a vocal minority and those who don't know any better.
You, however, should know better CCP.
I can only hope this is laying the groundwork for an epic early April fools joke as opposed to being a concerted effort to bore all titan pilots into never logging in again (except for those wierdos who genuinely enjoy doing nothing but bridging).
Wow, just wow. If not a single titan pilot ever logs into this game again, the quality of this game will improve by several orders of magnitude. Better to restart the server, would that be fair enough for you. Risk / Reward anyone ever heard this concept, thought it was what this game was suppose to be based on.
Did someone from raiden(dot) really just pull the risk/reward card? Tell me more about the risk involved in dropping 50 titans on a battlecruiser fleet. I used to have a clever sig but I lost it. |
Ser Berus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:16:00 -
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The Economist wrote:What an amazing pile of steaming **** based on lies, misconceptions and endless exagerration. The situation presented as being responded to simply doesn't represent reality, but rather the deluded and deliberately misleading view of a vocal minority and those who don't know any better.
You, however, should know better CCP.
I can only hope this is laying the groundwork for an epic early April fools joke as opposed to being a concerted effort to bore all titan pilots into never logging in again (except for those wierdos who genuinely enjoy doing nothing but bridging).
Wow, just wow.
It's consistently hilarious to me how people who devoted their time and energy to a ship whose main use is strategic, get all butthurt when the grotesquely overpowered tactical mechanics get nerfed. It's almost as though the majority of titan pilots in the game have absolutely no idea what value titans bring to the table, and believe that all of eve's game mechanics should boil down to "HURRR BIG SHIP ME MAKE LITTLE SHIP GO BOOM AHAHAHAHA".
Here's a hint: the things which make a titan useful, haven't been nerfed and aren't going to be. The actual "endgame" in eve does not involve parking your fat ass into a single, expensive ship. Hope this helps! |
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mackluver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:18:00 -
[1721] - Quote
Epic win by CCP, end the Supercap blob!
If all these sad titan pilots cancel their accounts, i hope they at least suicide it into a blob of Drakes first. Maybe then we would get an accurate count on how many are tripple sensor boosted as we watch killmails scroll. |
Bashe Zor
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:18:00 -
[1722] - Quote
FeLiZk wrote:
Risk / Reward anyone ever heard this concept, thought it was what this game was suppose to be based on.
And what risk do these titan pilots take exactly? They're nigh-invincible when fielded in flocks. |
Darth Tickles
Northstar Cabal Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:20:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:Who dares oppose the truth in my post? None so far.
Look upon my words, ye badposters, and despair!
I will take exception.
I think CRYING about it in shocked indignation after the fact is the issue.
In holding with your analogy, I would drink myself into a blind, vomiting rage, I just wouldn't complain when I wasn't invited the next time a cousin of mine got married. |
Dmitry Sychev
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:21:00 -
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asdf ghyj wrote:Dear CCP if do this nerf then gief back to all pilots titan skills cuz we spend 5 bil for skill and 100 bils = for titan and wasting like 3 month + for make skill AND NOW WE CANT USE THIS SHIP cuz this MITANI not have skill and isk to take titan
MR MITANI go play PREPELIX ONLINE and stop cry to CCP cuz u guys (goon) cant fly titans
OR MAKE SERVER FOR GOONS AND LET US PLAY FAIR And CCp what prefer to have 6-7k players( goons) or 60k players ?????? Think before do wrong changes
60k players? How many titans in Game? - Titan's pilots will leave game, no changes to online.
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Mathicluanna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:22:00 -
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Darth Tickles wrote: In holding with your analogy, I would drink myself into a blind, vomiting rage, I just wouldn't complain when I wasn't invited the next time a cousin of mine got married.
So you're saying CCP should ban all the current titan pilots? |
FeLiZk
The Ankou Raiden.
0
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:24:00 -
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Andski wrote:FeLiZk wrote:Better to restart the server, would that be fair enough for you.
Risk / Reward anyone ever heard this concept, thought it was what this game was suppose to be based on.
Yes you risk all of your titans when you drop them en masse ahahah
Every time we drop them we risk -Counter drop (trap) -One bumped titan (thanks for that one CCP) -Disconnect
And yes we risk all of them, it only takes one very bad day and we lose them all in one go ask RA.
You might not think this, but there are times that we don't use them because the risks involved.
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whaynethepain
44
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:24:00 -
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As the Titan numbers mount up, they may have to be brought down a notch or two to balance.
I think the real issue is, we are missing an Alliance HQ structure, with jump-drive and activatable Re-inforce.
Titans do have there role, they jump my fleet ship into the battle. They Project force well, some of them look the part too, they could use some adjustments to the ship lighting effects, and the jump effect doesn't seem to stretch far enough into the distance.
Could every Alliance have a single, moveable super-structure, A standard of power and notoriety, A rally point held with pride.
Didn't wan't a Titan anyway, there is nowhere to park them. Getting you on your feet.
So you've further to fall. |
Razzor Death
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
166
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:24:00 -
[1728] - Quote
FeLiZk wrote:
Better to restart the server, would that be fair enough for you.
Risk / Reward anyone ever heard this concept, thought it was what this game was suppose to be based on.
hahahahaha well don't worry little fella your no risk toys are getting there balls removed so turn that thrown upside down. |
Crias Taylor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
110
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:24:00 -
[1729] - Quote
The Economist wrote:What an amazing pile of steaming **** based on lies, misconceptions and endless exagerration. -áThe situation presented as being responded to simply doesn't represent reality, but rather the deluded and deliberately misleading view of a vocal minority and those who don't know any better. -á
You, however, should know better CCP.
I can only hope this is laying the groundwork for an epic early April fools joke as opposed to being a concerted effort to bore all titan pilots into never logging in again (except for those wierdos who genuinely enjoy doing nothing but bridging).
Wow, just wow.
I don't think you know what minority actually means.-á |
Nao Oikawasan
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:25:00 -
[1730] - Quote
Swearte Widfarend wrote:Dabigredboat wrote:The Mittani wrote:
I fly an Erebus, and have one of the largest Titan fleets in the galaxy.
The hard fact is that the fault lies with the people who used Titans to annihilate subcaps en masse, and then had the poor judgement to laugh about it, congratulate themselves, and keep doing it. If RDN, NCdot and PL hadn't gone whole-hog abusing an obviously broken mechanic, this nerf would have never happened.
They may tell themselves that the inarguable imbalance of blapping titans was a sign of their 'skill' or 'superiority' - the same excuses offered forth throughout the history of the Titan, justifying Remote Doomsdays, AoE Doomsdays, etc etc. The same old guard players, the same old guard excuses, the same old-guard entitlement.
Ultimately, the nemesis of titans was the poor impulse control of their own pilots - the inability, when faced with what amounted to a free bar, not to drink themselves into blundering violence and to assault the other guests.
I am Dabigredboat and I fly a leviathan. I agree with the mittani :3: I am a nobody that doesn't fly a Titan, on any of my accounts. What's sad to me is how when Mittens posts about his Errorbus and Titan fleet, and all the goon sheep repost with no content, they generate a good amount of noise in a thread already full of it. The proposed changes aren't going to have the desired effects. It's that simple. People who know a decent amount about game mechanics have said so, but CCP will again ignore them (hello Technetium buff... hello SuperCarrier buff...) thinking they know what they are doing, and throw the requisite "we will evaluate and iterate" line to quiet down those who are easily silenced. This supposed change will do little to the nullsec battlefield. It will do little to skilled players with Titans who understand game mechanics. It will do nothing to Titan proliferation (743 as of this morning's capital tweet). The smart thing to do is to actually fix them, give them a place or pull them from the game, refund Titan-related skill points and the ship's mineral value in ISK to the pilots.
Why, in god's name, do you people believe that anyone deserves skillpoints and ISK because the faulty game mechanic, that you've been abusing for so long, has been fixed? You've had a good old time wrecking dramiels and rifters. We've all laughed on comms about these killmails and how absolutely ridiculous they are! You've plopped your fat asses into the systems with 2000 actual pilots duking it out and whored untold numbers of killmails without a single worry as to being killed. I think you've been given enough. No need for refunds. |
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Carl Hinken
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:26:00 -
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So wait....
You've made it impossible for dreads to hit a slightly moving carrier out of siege (they couldn't in siege already), you've made it impossible for a titan not fitting the apparently pre-requisite 3+ Cormack SBs to hit the same thing (despite supposedly being anti-cap, and you're calling it good.
**** you. |
GeneralDisturbed
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
50
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:27:00 -
[1732] - Quote
FeLiZk wrote:
Every time we drop them we risk -Counter drop (trap) -One bumped titan (thanks for that one CCP) -Disconnect
And yes we risk all of them, it only takes one very bad day and we lose them all in one go ask RA.
You might not think this, but there are times that we don't use them because the risks involved.
[Tell] me more about dropping a blob of titans with supercarrier support onto a fleet of battlecruisers. Something about risk/reward I believe you were saying.
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5954
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:28:00 -
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Carl Hinken wrote: You've made it impossible for dreads to hit a slightly moving carrier out of siege (they couldn't in siege already), you've made it impossible for a titan not fitting the apparently pre-requisite 3+ Cormack SBs to hit the same thing (despite supposedly being anti-cap, and you're calling it good.
Apparently, ladies and gentlemen of eve-o, NPC altposters think that sensor boosters have something to do with tracking.
Why don't you all give up and admit your own culpability in this. Not only is this nerf your fault, but it is what you deserve. The Mittani, CSM7: Vote Here - One EVE. One Vote. One Chairman
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
Tector
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
37
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:29:00 -
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Crias Taylor wrote:The Economist wrote:What an amazing pile of steaming **** based on lies, misconceptions and endless exagerration. -áThe situation presented as being responded to simply doesn't represent reality, but rather the deluded and deliberately misleading view of a vocal minority and those who don't know any better. -á
You, however, should know better CCP.
I can only hope this is laying the groundwork for an epic early April fools joke as opposed to being a concerted effort to bore all titan pilots into never logging in again (except for those wierdos who genuinely enjoy doing nothing but bridging).
Wow, just wow. I don't think you know what minority actually means.-á
Imagine that, an Economist that can't count! |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5534
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:30:00 -
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FeLiZk wrote:Risk / Reward anyone ever heard this concept, thought it was what this game was suppose to be based on. It is. That's why the titans are getting adjusted (not just now with the change presented in this thread, but further in the near future as well): because the risk is minimal and the reward is quite large. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Reilly Duvolle
Hydra Squadron
446
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:32:00 -
[1736] - Quote
Why bother. Vote with your vallets. |
CynoNet Two
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
502
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:34:00 -
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Tippia wrote:FeLiZk wrote:Risk / Reward anyone ever heard this concept, thought it was what this game was suppose to be based on. It is. That's why the titans are getting adjusted (not just now with the change presented in this thread, but further in the near future as well): because the risk is minimal and the reward is quite large. I'd love to see some new stats from mister Turbefield showing:
The average ratio of Drakes that die, compared to the number that are built in one month. The average ratio of Maelstroms that die, compared to the number that are built in one month. The average ratio of Dreads/Carriers that die, compared to the number that are built in one month. The average ratio of Titans that die, compared to the number that are built in one month. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2890
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:34:00 -
[1738] - Quote
I agree. If you disagree with this nerf, unsub now!
and don't come back "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
133
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:36:00 -
[1739] - Quote
The critical change here is simple: Titans cannot kill normal interdictors as easily. These interdictors now have plenty of time to warp in, burn, drop bubble, burn out, and cloak/warp. Before, they would get targeted on the burn in, and die on the burn out if they did manage to bubble.
There is a simple solution to this, a support fleet. Field a support fleet to deal with the dictors, your titans deal with the hictors still, and everything is fine. But to have 30 dudes in titans to do everything under the sun just by themselves is a game without balance. Tier 3's can easily deal with dictors (assuming they don't get hit by a bomb or two), or sniper hacs if you're bad at being aligned. |
Juul Kamikazaa
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.14 18:39:00 -
[1740] - Quote
I'm a complete failure IRL, with insufferably low physical strength and endurance to boot. I play EVE to feel good about myself, and in order to do that I NEED to sit in a hulking ship and blast countless smaller ships with impunity! WHY U NERF MY CONFIDENCE CCP?! A-bloo-bloo-bloo-bloo |
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