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Arikanaiz
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Posted - 2008.11.12 02:02:00 -
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I am start a formal petition to eliminate the missile nerf that has been put into effect with the release of the Queantum Rise Expansion. According to these new "changes" missiles of all sizes are relatively ineffective against ships. Every "class size" that the missiles are designed to target can move faster than the missile's explosion velocity. Therefore, the only way to get your BASE damage back is to target something bigger than your missiles were made to shoot. Even then the speed of the vehicle is still faster than your missile explosion velocity and decreases the damage. So I ask you to sign your name and or comments to this petition to return missiles to thier old already WEAK state.
Arikanaiz--
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Blindfall
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Posted - 2008.11.12 02:05:00 -
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/signed
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Viriatus
Amarr Ateagina Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.11.12 02:08:00 -
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Signed!
For my experience: Mission Runners are f***ed, lol! They will make about 80% less ISK per hour.
Well done CCP you definatly killed that ISK farmers.
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.12 02:08:00 -
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my raven is useless..... respecing to amarr http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVrN-Rv2VEs |

Rahlstin
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Posted - 2008.11.12 02:10:00 -
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Missile issue is a very negative change. Please reverse.
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Atrosity
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Posted - 2008.11.12 02:13:00 -
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/Signed
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Dr Booya
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Posted - 2008.11.12 02:15:00 -
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Yeah, I don't get why they keep nerfing caldari, too bad we all trained so long to have usable missile skills only to have CCP take away the whole reason we trained missiles to begin with not once but twice now! 
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Pheonix Dragoon
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Posted - 2008.11.12 02:15:00 -
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/signed...not that they will listen. Best way to make them listen is for people that are fed up with all this nerfing to just quit Eve until they correct the mistakes.
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Patri Andari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
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Posted - 2008.11.12 02:16:00 -
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No other weapon system is limited to doing its full damage to ships in a higher class. I understand limiting the ability to do full damage to a lower class, but heavy missiles (including T2) should do full damage to cruisers just like cruiser sized beams, rails and arty. Cruise missiles (including T2) should do full damage to BS just like BS sized beams, rails and arty and so on.
In other words...
/signed
Patri
A fool usually thinks he is a genius |

Tonto Indian
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Posted - 2008.11.12 02:16:00 -
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Signed
OMG... I have 10,954,849 skill points in missle launchers alone and now it's all for nothing. I can't even play anymore... I only have 1 million SP in gunnery. This is HORRIBLE.
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Mara Kell
Steel Beasts Sev3rance
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Posted - 2008.11.12 02:16:00 -
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Im not running missions at all with missiles, but im SIGNING because my Sacrilege got nerfed...
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su ling
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Posted - 2008.11.12 02:21:00 -
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i am opposed to the missile nerf and the dang speed nerf on the battle ship CNR
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Irine Archer
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Posted - 2008.11.12 02:27:00 -
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CCP went to far with this one
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Skwiche
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Posted - 2008.11.12 02:37:00 -
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Signed o/
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Dracthera
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Posted - 2008.11.12 02:43:00 -
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No impact to running missions in a NH/Drake on L4s. How are the CNR/Ravens performing if you add painters and/or flare rigs?
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Mire Stoude
Cash Money Brothers
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Posted - 2008.11.12 02:51:00 -
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Now now. If we give them a few years, they will probably realize that speed tanking shouldn't mean going faster than 52m/s.
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Hamshaft
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Posted - 2008.11.12 02:55:00 -
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SIGNED
Unless +1 mid to all missile boats for purposes of a painter.
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Oktacon
Caldari Exiled. Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:10:00 -
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Just signing because a Hyperion was speed tanking my Raven. That was a bit ridiculous
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UrsaeMajoris
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:11:00 -
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Edited by: UrsaeMajoris on 12/11/2008 03:12:47 /signed
Thank you CCP for making my raven need 2 webbers and 2 painters to hit for full damage against BS with rage torps.
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Ethaet
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:19:00 -
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/signed
Account cancelled, 1 month until I leave and never look back. -------------------------------------------------------------- Seriously, we need some kind of separation between the post and signature. There you go. Now that wasn't so hard  |

Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:20:00 -
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Missiles are just fine, iŠll change my skill plans to amarr, then i do not have to whine about missiles.
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Arikanaiz
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:20:00 -
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Originally by: Oktacon Just signing because a Hyperion was speed tanking my Raven. That was a bit ridiculous
Ladies and gentlemen, this new "change" to missiles allows any ship at any time to speed tank any missile boat at any time. Webbers, lower the effective tank that out ships can have, thus unbalancing the pvp aspect of any missile player further. When a Hyperion, with a massive tank already, throws on an afterburner, all the faction fittings in the universe won't help a Raven. Even a Hyperion with no speed mods, can't be beaten by a fully faction/officer fit raven due to the simple fact that even at its base speed, they Hyperson is faster than the explosion velocity of even a HEAVY ASSULT MISSILE. A HAM has an explosion velocity of 101m/s now, and even the basest of battleships has a faster base speed than 101m/s If a HAM can't hit a battleship for full damage, what the point in all my skillpoints in missiles skills, what the point in the countless wasted hours of training missile skills?
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Musashibou Benkei
Caldari Combined Imperial Fleet
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:23:00 -
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Originally by: Pheonix Dragoon /signed...not that they will listen. Best way to make them listen is for people that are fed up with all this nerfing to just quit Eve until they correct the mistakes.
/signed also. How does CCP even justify the LOGIC in a cruise missile having an explosion velocity of 69m/s?
I was about to blow up a Sin on sisi when he realised he was being owned so he started to run away from me. It was bloody annoying to see my explosive torps go from doing 780 damage per missile to 130 damage cos he had an afterburner fit. ffs
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razboinicul
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:25:00 -
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/signed. These missile changes suck really bad. I trained those skills for nothing. |

Rail Gun
Caldari Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:30:00 -
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SIGNED
We have tested missiles now and they are totally worthless... BS can speed tank part of torpedeos damage only by MOVING without MWD ot AB. Missiles are totally busted now, I'm really hapy I have cross trained gallente and minnie ships and gunnery.
Missiles weren't that good before, why did they had to totally broke them.
P.S. Caldari Militia will have some problems ahead...
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RahAh nZanhOrR
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:34:00 -
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Like any good socialist country where the morally "superieur" elite plays to the whining weak to get their vote. CCP has decided to cash in the Amarr, Minmatar and Gallente vote by nerfing Missile Skills AGAIN!  Maybe all Caldari Ship Players should start petition CCP to get their money back for all those months spent on missile skill training. Since that has now been a waste of time and your money.
The upside is that Ravens will go over the counter for like 20Mil in 1 month.  //signed//
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Arrakis Redcloud
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:35:00 -
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signed
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Dark 'Shadow
Talocan Technologies
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:38:00 -
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Might want to post this in assembly hall.
/signed
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Verstal
Amarr Incredibuilders United
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:45:00 -
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Edited by: Verstal on 12/11/2008 03:47:44 /signed a 1000x
along with the changes to the Speed, Faction Mods and everything else you did in this patch you can take it back and give us a game we like again. How many accounts are being canceled, that's all I want to know.
Oh yeah I forgot to mention during the LiveDev Blog that the Zulu stated that our opinion doesn't matter to the developers, besides being priceless jackassery that made me feel special, I doubt anything will change the declining state of Eve.
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SenshiMaru
The Cruisers
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:54:00 -
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Originally by: Rail Gun We have tested missiles now and they are totally worthless... BS can speed tank part of torpedeos damage only by MOVING without MWD ot AB.
you mean they work exactly like all the other types of guns? *mind blown*
It is my opinion that this is exactly how missles SHOULD work but everyone is just used to them being broken.
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