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Glendel
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Posted - 2008.11.13 18:23:00 -
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Signed
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Seaden
Gallente
Arcadian Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.11.13 19:56:00 -
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Who ever bright idea was this must have there head examined. Seriously, missiles are USELESS now, What I'd suggest is having two parts to the missile, The "impact" damage and a chance to do 2ed damage thus the "explosion damage". Thus being the one you can avoid with speed but still take like 10% of the damage.
Or just please, reverse the missile Nerf, the worse idea EVER in my book.
If it doesn't get fixed i think I'll quit playing and take the money i spend on 3 accounts else where. 
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Gael Itrus
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Posted - 2008.11.13 20:02:00 -
[273]
 Originally by: maddmaxx III
CCP this is bull, you cant even make one reply to your costumers? Pitiful, You are losing 5 accounts today, why train anything in this game with the risk of it being nerfed, and no I am not talking about shooting frigs, I am talking about not doing realistic damage to BC's and BS's. Its sad to go really, I really do enjoy eve, but I will not train skills that could be obsolete in the future. And noone is getting my stuff.
I am in your position. I don't want to leave Eve, but at this point it is essentially a waste of time to train for anything.
You have broken missiles and rendered an entire race useless. Fix missiles please, if these "improvements" stick I will be cancelling my account.
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Cage Tradesman
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Posted - 2008.11.13 20:20:00 -
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Maybe not mentioned is the sheer COST associated with being forced to pummel NPC's with 5x the # of missiles as before.... Un-Nerf the Missile Boats and bring back my Raven... I don't have 3 hours to wipe out 20 Cruisers and Frig before getting to the BC's. Talk about a lousey ISK to Time ratio!!
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RoCkEt X
The Order of Chivalry
Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.11.13 20:24:00 -
[275]
signed.
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Poast Warrior
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.11.13 20:36:00 -
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Not that I'm in disagreement, but if you want to see how effective voting in assembly is just see the original nano nerf thread that was against this mess to begin with.
Nothing will change, waste of time :(
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ChaseTheLasers
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Posted - 2008.11.13 20:40:00 -
[277]
Signed.
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maddmaxx III
Caldari
Middleton and Mercer LLP
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.13 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Poast Warrior
Not that I'm in disagreement, but if you want to see how effective voting in assembly is just see the original nano nerf thread that was against this mess to begin with.
Nothing will change, waste of time :(
The nano nerf was needed
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CaPsA
Caldari
Kernel of War
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.11.13 21:49:00 -
[279]
/Signed 
Signature inappropriate for a teen rated forum - Valorem |
Stegreen
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:10:00 -
[280]
/Signed,
I'm not Caldari and never played a caldari rase, i am Gallente myself I never use missiles, but i managed to speed tank a Raven with my Dominix it was funny, but it is destroying the game.
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oilio
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:32:00 -
[281]
/signed |
Jayoasis
Gallente
b.b.k
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.11.13 22:43:00 -
[282]
The Med drone nurf has ****ed me right off, my curent Thorax is now useless for missions :(
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Jaryn Vek
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Posted - 2008.11.13 23:55:00 -
[283]
consider this signed.
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Khamal Jolstien
Product Number 3
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Posted - 2008.11.13 23:58:00 -
[284]
Signing this, now with fancy thumbs up.
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Stalina
Gallente
Deep Space Exploration Squad
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Posted - 2008.11.14 00:00:00 -
[285]
Edited by: Stalina on 14/11/2008 00:03:39
Originally by: Party SoL
signed
with the nerf i don't need to fight in pvp..
now a 800m/s frig can kill my raven... =( and i didn*t damage it....
this is very bad
missiles are realy low and now they make less dps
Now if the frig would be webbed down to like 300m/s and you would be sitting in an astarte, you would not even hit him. Difference is that you are using medium guns ( cruiser-sized ), no bs class weapons. Just FYI.
Originally by: Arikanaiz
Turrets don't miss 9/10, Tracking doesn't effect damage against another battleship even if the thing is using an AB, they have more turrets and a higher ROF.
If missiles get unnerfed, they need to change turrets accordingly. Or webs.
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Originally by: Malcanis
Hey I've got an idea: why don't you and your nerf-crying ilk never, ever post again.
See what you've done. Look what you did.
Now shush.
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Deej Montana
Outbound Flight
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Posted - 2008.11.14 00:08:00 -
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Not only did CCP handicap Caldari even more in PvP, they managed to make PvE damned unpleasant as well. This mess needs to be revisited. |
Slistine Death
Sons of Angelus Mortis
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Posted - 2008.11.14 00:09:00 -
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Edited by: Slistine Death on 14/11/2008 00:11:32
/signed Using Cald and missiles for pvp was hard before, now it is impossible.
Say goodbye to 3 accounts and my stuff will get deleted so don't ask.
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Lord Symatar
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Posted - 2008.11.14 00:21:00 -
[288]
signed 1000 times
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Khamal Jolstien
Caldari
Product Number 3
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Posted - 2008.11.14 00:26:00 -
[289]
Originally by: Stalina
Edited by: Stalina on 14/11/2008 00:03:39
Originally by: Party SoL
signed
with the nerf i don't need to fight in pvp..
now a 800m/s frig can kill my raven... =( and i didn*t damage it....
this is very bad
missiles are realy low and now they make less dps
Now if the frig would be webbed down to like 300m/s and you would be sitting in an astarte, you would not even hit him. Difference is that you are using medium guns ( cruiser-sized ), no bs class weapons. Just FYI.
Originally by: Arikanaiz
Turrets don't miss 9/10, Tracking doesn't effect damage against another battleship even if the thing is using an AB, they have more turrets and a higher ROF.
If missiles get unnerfed, they need to change turrets accordingly. Or webs.
Sure, as long as missiles can get instant damage, increased dps, and wrecking hits. Oh, and a few mid slots to actually use ewar mods (barring ewar ships of course)
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Raveln
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Posted - 2008.11.14 00:34:00 -
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I and my friend did some intercorp sparring to see how much this was going to affect me in the game. My paradise cruise missile did 387 damage while my friend was at 0 m/s speed. Over 200 m/s speed, my friend took 218 damage. 43% damage reduction for him to simply fly at 233 m/s in a bs!
Why do I deserve this? I didn't complain about speed. I didn't complain about previous comparatively low dps for missiles.
What is up with this? If patches and expansions pull this crap, I would rather there be no patches or expansions. From what I read in the forums, CCP has a history of not changing the nerfs. So what I have to look forward to for future patches and expansions seem to be many nerfs and changes to stats without regard to consequences. So at any time, my skills can be nullified along with the time spent training them. I do not look forward to this aspect of the game at all. What a waste of time training missile skills. What other skills will be nullified in the future? It would be nice to know now so I don't waste any more time.
And then people say "adapt or leave"? This is absurd. No company who adopts this stupid attitude will last long. They go out of business. Who supports who here? Telling people adapt or leave, will cause people to leave, giving CCP less sales. Less sales is bad for business. Bad business means eve suffers. Is that what you want to do for a game you like? Urge people to do something that hurts the game? Stupid advice. And what about those who adapt? Is that better than leaving? Sounds like people who let others walk all over them to me. In that case, stop posting "adapt or leave" in the forums if all you are going to do is be walked on.
I'm pretty close to giving up on eve if this kind of attitude continues. The only thing keeping me going at the moment is the friends I have in my corp. Looking at training for other ships besides CNR and ravens now. Sheesh, how lame to have to start over skills in turrets just to pvp. After retraining, you better not nerf anything else CCP. I've almost had my last straw. I only allow myself to be walked on for so long.
/signed
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Valerius Dominicus
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Posted - 2008.11.14 01:03:00 -
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signed
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Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.11.14 01:32:00 -
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Currently, missiles cannot even hit for full damage against ships of their own size class, moving at un-boosted speeds, and lose the bulk of their effectiveness against ships of their size class moving at un-nanoed afterburner speeds. This is ridiculous. I full support the principle of the changes to missiles to increase the differentiation between ship classes, but this implemented is badly thought out. Please revise it so that missiles can be effective against ships of their own class.
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Becq Starforged
Ushra'Khan
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Kell Archer
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Posted - 2008.11.14 01:51:00 -
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i support this thread in its entirety.
I have been robbed of my gameplay and 8 months of training time. unacceptable period. I will NOT continue to play, support or payfor this game if this is not changed to a more resonable system.
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Triest
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.11.14 02:55:00 -
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Edited by: Triest on 14/11/2008 02:55:46
i cant belive this change, now my torps dont hit cruisers and frigates in missions and i cant make isk ive spent 1 year on missle skill training and its WORTHLESS now ive already cancelled my 3 accounts wts 3 CNR with CNR fittings. signed x3
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Nnamuachs
Kiith Paktu
Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.11.14 03:30:00 -
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/Signed
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Brandon McGovern
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Posted - 2008.11.14 04:02:00 -
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signed
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Arikanaiz
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Posted - 2008.11.14 04:09:00 -
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Please when you post, don't forget to look at the bottom before you reply and select support this topic!
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Ignition SemperFi
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2008.11.14 05:15:00 -
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good thing to see stuff get moved to assembly hall now, instead of requiring seperate threads.
either way this nerf albeit needed to protect smaller vessels from larger ships missiles.
allows someone to speed tank missiles w/ just 1 mod is beyond rediculious
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People Say Im paranoid because I have a gun, I say I dont have to be paranoid because I have a gun.
Garmon - "I LOK ON TO ROMULAN WARBIRD AND GO POW POW POW" |
Plomeo
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Posted - 2008.11.14 05:27:00 -
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signed
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Doc Iridium
One Stop Mining Shop
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Posted - 2008.11.14 05:36:00 -
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Thank you, CCP, for re-opening this topic.
I may fly Amarr ships, and I may have the ability to avoid this nerf to a great degree, but the entire concept of a nerf on this scale is completely against any sane customer relations policy.
I DO fly a Purifier, and I DO use cruise missile launchers on my Apoc. Both of these things which I trained for are now close to useless. The entire purpose of putting cruise missiles on my Apoc was for kinetic/explosive damage as an option. Now my lasers do nearly the same damage as cruise missiles, even on targets which are highly Therm/EM resistant. How many days of training have now been made utterly meaningless? I can still use my Cov ops V skill for scanning, but the Purifier is now just a 0.0 / lowsec taxi.
/signed
Well, I've said my piece - wait, is that Veldspar over there? Woot! |
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